Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Too Whit Too Woo

Yes,

Romney did in fact say that... go figure we have a politician that is a lying sack of feces...

Craig,

As a way of educating the masses on mormonism, Youtube has some entertaining videos that explain it all. The South Park episode is brilliant, but my personal favorite is the one that shows that all the "dark people" were evil because they weren't blond and blue eyed or something like that...

Out of respect to Keith Olbermann, I will not ask what is the obvious question but I can't help but wonder...

Is it just me, or does Sec. Paulson's body language while W is speaking make anybody else uncomfortable?

Shrubco had to encourage predatory lending in mortgages because home ownership is one way of fighting terrorism

http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm

Of course he doesn't want to go there. Joseph Smith and his seeing stones, salamanders guarding the golden tablets, John the Baptist baptizing Smith in the Susquehannah River 1829. All kinds of interesting we may be learning about soon. Some true others made up.

well..... due to running errands all morning long..... I missed Romney's speech and all the brouhaha that I'm sure followed it......
the fact that he even felt compelled to have to make a speech clarifying his religious beliefs with his political beliefs in this day and age is stupefying, IMO...

someone said yesterday that he would really only be speaking to the evangelicals..... yup..... and they ain't gonna vote for him anyways.....

Robert Chapman..... interesting analysis of the candidates.....
you're right..... at the moment there isn't a GOP one breaking into the 20s in the polls...... I really don't care who their nominee is.....
I think Hillary may be slipping a bit in Iowa and NH (my state)..... but I bet she wins the nomination by a wide margin on super Tuesday, Feb 5th....

and BTW..... Craig has been running this blog for 21/2 years.... it's just landed here recently due to technical stuff.... a lot of us have been around since almost the beginning and know each other...... hence..... we do a lot of personal talking and a lot of joking around...... don't take offense by our snarkiness..... unless you want to..... :0)

Bowmanc

David Kuo the former aid to Shrub from the evangelical community said the impact of the speech will be to stir up anti mormon sentiment.

"Freedom requires religion, just as religion requires freedom."

uh Mitt, you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

Renee,
My best friend in Jr. high school was Mormon. I use to poke fun at him all the time about some of the kooky tenants of his religion. But the Mormon community in the town where I grew up were some of the nicest, friendliest, helpful people I've ever known.

Nobody ever complained about Mitt's dad being a Mormon. Or Orrin Hatch, Or Harry Reid. So WTF?

Enjoying the lively debate today, i am laid up on the couch nursing a badly sprained ankle, slipped and fell in yesterday's first snow. Sitting here with a bag of frozen peas on my foot watching the darn cattle auction on RFD (looks like a killer bull goes for around $5500 today, in case anybody needs one).

and by the way, the Type Key registration system seems to be working now -- and you can put profiles and pics on your page

Now Petreous is saying he has to wait until next fall before he will know if he can shorten deployments from 18 months to a year.

Isn't there an election then that means Shrub will have coasted to an ignoble end and the next President will have to clean up the slop left behing the GOPiggies.

My apologies to all porcines everywhere.

So March is just bygones.....

Craig: lifestyles of the rich and famous?

I think McCain may end up being the nominee as well. This Huckabee flapdoodle isn' going to be good or over as quickly as he would like although I do think Huckabee will hurt Romney in Iowa, Giuliani's gong to have to do well in Iowa because it certainly doesn't look like he will do well here in NH.

I think there are large parts of the Republican party that will not vote for either Romney or Giuliani and Huckabee will be discovered to be a fraud(at least to the voters concerned). Thompson brings to mind a a subtitle in a Dave Barry book 'Napping Toward Glory' that seems apropos

Romney delivers his ‘…can’t we all God along?’ speech deep in evangelical territory and is introduced by Pope Reagan’s heir and Reverend George W Bush’s more secular progenitor, George HW Bush.

The entire episode has a decidedly Larry Craig - quest for relief in a restroom - quality to it. Attempting the correct sequence of toe taps and waves under the divider to gauge acceptance for a tête-à-tête; else, pick up the scrap of paper and wait for another prospect.

Flush and repeat.

Craig,

Was there a Washington Attack Tree involved in this latest abuse to your carcass?

Craig,

Did you see the brilliant suggestion yesterday, that your next book should be titled

Just One More Cow

I'm still giggling over that bit from the show and which ever Crawdad I'm too lazy to look up made the suggestion.

well i am serious it is fascinating, after a while you start to pick up on their personalities, strengths and weaknesses -- watching cattle not much different than watching politicians, really

slippon the ice going for my mail -- my swollen ankle looks like hillary's now (OK i'll throw a quarter in the jar for malicious inappropriateness)

xnicker

Mitt Romney: It's as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America - the religion of secularism. They are wrong.

Atrios: Really it would just be crazy if anyone tried to start a new religion in America... oh, wait

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_12_02_archive.html#4574157057099180781

"watching cattle not much different than watching politicians, really"

just less BS

Strangely enough, one of my favorite things to watch at the County Fair was the cattle judging. There really are pretty cows.

Of course, what I really love are the race horse sales out of Saratoga. There's nothing quite like looking at a multi million dollar horse to put you in your place

OMG Craig...... you really do have to watch where you step.... don't you.....
hope you mend fast.... and you have my permission to drink as many appletinis as you want...... :0)

Jamie..... it was dnd who suggested that title...... and yes, I too thought it was brilliant......

Rick and I love going to State and Country Fairs..... we always make sure to visit the cow barn..... our favorite is a dairy cow called Jersey...... they are small, brown and have very pretty and gentle faces.....

http://www.jerseydairy.je/queen.asp

I keep thinking of that SNL skit with Christopher Walken instead of Walken wanting more cow bell it's Craig asking of "just one more cow"

I think Craig should sue the U.S. Postal Service! LOL!

dairy cows, while gentle and nice looking faces are nice, they have a disadvantage. They have to be milked twice a day. 24/7 lots of work. no days off..

yo soy Horsedooty!

cow a bunga

for those of you with a cow fetish
http://www.simplybovine.com/home.php

we know a lot about happy cows here in
cowafornia

Craig,
Lying on the couch with an ice pack on my ankle, as well. I slipped on the ice and broke my ankle Tuesday night. I've just been lurking on the blog since I am taking vicodin and need to nap unexpectedly. Hope you only have a sprain since a break is a real bummer. Agree that cattle auctions are interesting since I went to many growing up. They are pretty exciting live and around Christmas they always had a Santa show up and give stockings to all the kids in attendance.

Craig,

Sorry about your ankle. Hopefully there weren't martinis involved in the slip.

The RFD channel is frightening because the most benign things can suck you in...I noticed after Imus this morning that the program was donkey and mule training...seemed appropriate for the I-man...

Which reminds me... who are the token black folks he has on his show now? I only watched while Sen. Kerry was on this morning and those 2 "panelist" just sat there and looked uncomfortable, almost like they were worried Imus would hit on them or something...

BTW,

I would much rather have your sprained ankle than my cracked rib which I got from coughing too hard... :o(

Zoey & Bear.....
broken and cracked bones are no fun...... hope both of you mend fast also....

Dooty..... Rick and I like to look at them...... we have no intention of ever owning one..... I'd love to have a dog and seriously considered getting one last year...... but at this point in our lives, it's not the right time..... it wouldn't be fair to the dog..... so a cow is definitely out of the question......

One way to handle Christmas Carols. Sing them all at once

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8

For all of you cow lovers. Coming to dvd!

http://www.thefarside.com/

gee willikers...ego bruised...nobody favors Dexter cows...:(

http://www.dex-info.net/images/Red.jpg

Dexter,

What breed is that? Is it a miniature or a bull calf?

BEAR:
Karith Foster is a comedian...I guess comedienne as a word is passe....
Tony Powell does the sports in a humorous way...no more fat jokes and big-head closeups of Chris Carlin nomo....Chris was still at WFAN last I checked, a while back....
Ms. Foster's joke about some concoction of cayenne pepper and lime juice and water (drink it 'til your ass burns, she said)t to lose weight "like Beyonce did" wasn't funny at all...maybe she's still nervous about the I-gig...
They sit still like grade school kids (Rob Bartlett does the same) so Imus can interview his guests,
Foster is always there to produce an irritating laugh that jangles my nerves.
She has a long way to go.
I miss Tracy .
Ashley is in negotiations to come over to Imus' show.

Cows are so huggable. In fact, I sometimes miss being able to hug a cow since I now live in town and we finally convinced the folks to sell their farm a couple of years ago. They stopped raising cows long ago.

When I was around 12 and old enough to know better, a couple of friends and I herded one of our steer calves into a pen and put a leather strap around its stomach. My idea was to ride it like they do at the rodeos. Needless to say the calf was having none of that and jumped the fence and ran down the road. My friends scattered and I had to wait for my dad to come home to help me track down the calf and herd it home. Boy was my dad mad.

Dex,

Answered my own question. You may have found a cow that can double as Renee's pet, though I've never considered having a "House Cow"

http://www.dex-info.net/

Dexter cattle are a small breed . That's all I know...I only know that much cuz a friend asked me why I call myself a cattle breed name.
It B fo' Dexter Gordon, then late, great tenor sax man, fools! :)

http://www.dex-info.net/buying_a_Dexter.htm

This link is incomplete . I can be had for a much smaller price!

WHERE TO BUY A DEXTER

Renee,
"but at this point in our lives, it's not the right time..... it wouldn't be fair to the dog..... so a cow is definitely out of the question......"

Dogs are way better than cows. They don't poop as much. And have you ever seen a cow try to catch a frisbee?

Do televangelists put programs for Sunday mornings inthe can way ahead of the showing date?
If any are live, we might learn something by watching some of them Sunday.
I know a of Christians, and they have no use for Mormon belief.
They think the Missouri story is poppycock.
They say the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ, and the path they have to follow is straight and NARROW...and they tolerate nothing outside their beliefs , the way they interpret them, from the NIV Bible.
They say all Hindus, Buddhists, non-Christ-believing Jews, and everybody else that has not turned thier souls over to Christ is going to hell, no ifs , ands, or buts. ( Ever hear of Jews for Jesus?...well, they exist...and the Christians I know say those Jews can get to the Kingdom.
All this non-inclusiveness is the major reason I am no longer a church deacon, nor have I gone to church in years.

Craig has an ankle sprain,
Zoey has a broken ankle.
Bear has cracked ribs.

Being a Crawfordlister is a dangerous job...

here is a capsule of the beliefs of a Christian:

http://www.creeds.net/ancient/nicene.htm

my dad and uncles took a cow up to the bell tower of the school one time, they'll go upstairs easily enough but not downstairs apparently

dnd: on the other hand, cows won't try to mooch food every time you you try to eat, on the other other hand, lap cow doesn't sound comfortable

Oh boy, "Death to Smoochy" on Comedy Central now.

Being a Crawfordlister is a dangerous job...

we can do our own health care expose

Yeah ran. And it's hell trying to keep my cattle off of the couch.

dnd

cracked bone in foot

Does Crawford's List have group insurance?

Just one rib actually...and what sucks is that it's on the back this time...much harder to manage not to tweak it...sitting at a desk is especially a challenge.

Jamie....
a cracked bone in your foot..... geez..... hope you mend really fast too....
I'm gonna watch every step I take.....

gonna watch every move I make and every breath I take.....
cuz someone's watching me........ (sorry, couldn't help myself)....

Dex.... those little cows are awesome.....

dnd.... yeah..... but you can't go barefoot into a field and squish dog patties between your toes like you can cow patties.......

ran.... lap cows...... sounds like the latest pet craze in Hollywood.....

My boss for 13 years was a Mormon. He was a great guy whom had converted from being a Roman Catholic. His wife remained Catholic. The Mormons were very open about helping other Mormons in advancing their careers and in other ways. At work they never proselyzed, like they do on thier missions. They have done alot of missionary work in the South Pacific and I remember my boss being very concerned when this huge samoan mormon fell in love with his daughter at college in Hawaii. The guy came and stayed with her family and ate so much they had to do three extra trips to the grocery store that week. My boss was very happy when the samoan kid left and went back Hawaii.

Anyway one of my other co workers was still a catholic and was very unhappy about my boss becoming Mormon. One day she said to him, "Joe, you are going to burn in hell a long time for turning your back on the Pope like that." He was stunned far a second then responded that he wasn't too worried about the Pope anymore. But I talked with him about the Mormon theology, and he was on board completely. He even gave me a copy of the Book of Mormon to take on my honeymoon, because he figured I would be bored in the Barbados. He had been there and "there wasn't much to do". I didn't bother to take it with me, but I still have it next to my bible on the book shelf.

Best piece yet from Arkansas about Our Huckleberry Fiend...

The dark side of Mike Huckabee

The national media seems to have a crush on our ex-governor, but here in Arkansas, we know better.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/index.html

*L* @ ran.

Craig, bull, you say? Ha. Should be the mascot of all primaries. $5,500 is probably cheap these days.

I'm really glad there was no tree involved. Keep your head down, as in watch for snow & ice.

tt

I'm a little speechless after watching this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI3g9RaVkdY

Pretty brutal news abouth the hulksterbee in that article 9/11. Sounds like a real nice guy. Bet he really knows his bible. One of the other campaigns is going to start getting this stuff out on hulksterbee, it should be very ugly and entertaining.

Time to get ready to go see John Mellencamp in concert. I guess he dropped the Cougar. Never seen him live, but it should be fun.

Corey: not me, I can't believe there are actually people that have less rhythm than I do

Bowmanc: he dropped the Cougar years ago said it was the record company execs that made him John Cougar, from what I have seen of him on liv TV (Farm Aid, Dylan's 30th bash and PBS) he puts on a good show

It's amazing what you can do with a video camera and a budget of about $100.

I surely thought that I was the only Crawdad who squished toes through cow patties!
I can't recall if it was a dare or what, or how we cleaned up...but it was fifty years ago in VERY rural Indiana...and it was laugh-a-lot fun...but I'd never do it again!
One kid stirred the crusty top off with a stick and the other kids ran through it...I know...TMI !!!!

This just in.

President Bush: Call 1-800-OOPS

President Bush may have done more today to irk people who are feeling pinched by the nation's mortgage crisis than he did to help them. Imagine how annoyed beleaguered homeowners felt when they called the 1-800 help line Bush gave out during his nationally televised address on mortgages.

"I have a message for every homeowner worried about rising mortgage payments," the president announced. "The best you can do for your family is to call 1-800-995-HOPE. That is 1-800-995-HOPE."

But Hope doesn't answer when you call the number. There's only an incessant busy signal. Because the president gave out the wrong number.

For what it's worth, the White House press office sent out a correction via a press release. The president was only a few digits off. "CORRECTION TO THE PRESIDENT'S REMARKS: THE TOLL-FREE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE HOPE NOW HOTLINE IS 1-888-995-HOPE."

My profile would include getting up at 4:00 A.M. and helping out with the milking of the Guernseys.
Uncle always brought a pail of milk from the evening miking to Grammaw . She'd jar it and stick it in the fridge.
In the morning, the risen cream was spooned into the coffee and the milk poured on the Wheaties.
Uncle and we milked the Guernseys by hand.
Squirt, Squirt!
Every day Uncle ate four eggs fried in bacon grease, six slices of toast, juice, lots of coffee with cream, sausage or bacon, and a GIANT bowl of Wheaties.
Lunch might be beans and franks .
Dinner was chicken & dumplings and fresh vegetables and fresh fruit and raspberry Kool-Aid in aluminum glasses.
And after everything was buttoned down on the farm, Friday Night Fights sponsored by Gillette, and we all had ice cream with strawberries .
Oh, it was ... a LONG time ago!

COREY!!!

tt

wow Zoey, how can you tell the difference between broken or sprained? i havent felt like goin anywhere to get mine checked, sorry you're busted up. we're a bunch of sad sacks this week. but they just lit the White House Christmas tree so things lookin up

Looks like I should start another list headed by Craig and followed by zoey and bear.

Hay you guys, be careful out there!

tt

Renee, being a cow lover, you should toodle down toward Rockport - there's a farm (ranch?) down there that raises a breed called Belted Galways. Black cows with a white belt about 1 foot wide around their middle. Now I'm no aficionado of cows, but they are pretty neat, as cows go.

My only twoencounters with cows wwere having one step on my instep while wearing flip flops when I was a kid - and the damned thing stood there for what felt like minutes although I'm sure that it was only a few seconds. Not a good encounter.

The second encounter is the only time I actually won anything of value - I bought a $50 chance on a game of cow patty bingo and the cow chose my square to relive itself on. I won $1000. Talk about a load of Sh*t.

1 800 995 HOPE is probably a sex line Dumya calls instead of getting bjs in the oval office.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Tucker isn't half bad when Tucker is off and Schuster is host?

Craig,
I went to the emergency room for x-rays. It was 3:00 a.m. when I finally got home. They gave me a boot to wear and a script for vicodin. The vicodin made the trip worthwhile. You should probably get an x-ray in case you have any broken bones so they can take care of them to make sure they heal correctly. Feet and ankles are complicated.

Dexter,

Please tell me that there was some alcohol involved in your cow poop escapades...please...or at least some acid, hell even sniffing glue or sharpies...

zoey: careful with those vicodins, I ended up with more aches and pains after taking too many of those last week,

I love this time of the political year. While watching the local news, there were 5 political commercials during one commercial break. They included (in this order) John Edwards, Wes for Hillary, the Huckster, Mitt, and Obama. I never tire of political commercials. Most are far superior to other commercials now airing.

I've never squished cow pattys between my toes. Seems like it'd draw flies.

We did like to throw the dried ones like frisbees...

Ran,
Thanks for the advice but it only takes 1/4 to 1/2 pill to work for me. Or as most would say, I am a cheap date.

Well off to see my bro & sis in law. Later, dudes and dudettes.

My only encounter with a cow closer than a petting zoo, was chasing one out of an alfalfa field while dressed in my birthday suit and a pair of boots.

They don't like it when you put a fence between them and tasty green stuff. It was a case of Cow 1 Fence 0

my dad used to keep about 5 yearling's and two year old steers at the house when I was growing up. once a year one of them would disappear and another younger one would show up. I guess I was about 10 when I figured out that the hamburger I was eating was....OMG!

yo soy Horsedooty!

Zoey,
"I never tire of political commercials. Most are far superior to other commercials now airing."

Just how many of those vicodins have you taken? ;-)

We still have cow chip throwing contests at the state fair. It is a real crowd pleaser.

dnd, I am a hopeless political junky.

For you cow lovers:

http://www.amazon.com/Cows-Rumination-Carl-Hileman/dp/1578601878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196985953&sr=1-1

"Cows: A Rumination" Photography by Carl Hileman

Cow patties? Spent my summers playing in vast fields that were littered with them...in a tiny company-owned (American Can Co., I think) town called Bellamy, AL. All us kids were more interested in the horses in the pasture than we were in the cows, but we ran barefoot all over those fields. I'd go there to stay with my Aunt Annie Pearl...no, I'm not kidding!...and her family, where it was my sworn duty to drive my cousin Glenda as crazy as I could....

thanks zoey, guess i'll go get it looked at tomorrow if no better. if vicadin makes commercials that interesting, must be worth it. Just watched Sicko over the weekend and learned that in France the doctors make free house calls. Wish i were in France today.

My favorite cow...because that's what was raised at the commune where I lived on weekends (psuedo-hippie, me) during my mid-twenties, is...the Highland. Very cute critters!

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~chicnmo/islay/backgrounds/Highland%20cow%20small.jpg

Cow Patti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DhMPthJ4A

Craig...Did watching Sicko have much impact on how you view our healthcare system? It made me angry when I watched it, but it also made me rethink an awful lot of what we're led to believe in this country.

Wes for Hillary commercial in heavy rotation here.

Who'd a thunk it?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/06/BAFHTPMQD.DTL&tsp=1

yo soy Horsedooty!

Craig,
I will have my fingers crossed you only have a sprain. If that is the case you will get a professional ace bandage wrap out of the deal. That will make your ankle feel lots better. Remember RICE: rest, ice, compression, elevation.

thanks zoey, it's getting a bit more mobile, altho swelling not going down. take care

So now the Pentagon's IG says that $1,000,000,000 (one billllllllion dollars) worth of weapons have gone unaccounted for in Iraq. Why do the Iranian Shia bother providing Iraq weapons if they can just get them from the US?

Willard is not Jack Kennedy
He isn't even George Romney

Very fine article on Condi Rice:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2222067,00.html

Belted Galways--

Pogo's description of Belted Galway cows was right on the money, but I can't believe he failed to mention Oreo Cookies.

I see the breed regularly, when traveling eastbound on the New York State Thruway, near Canajoharie, and I've never once looked at them without thinking of Oreos and a glass of milk.

Oreo Cookie Cows

http://www.homestead.org/LivestockDirectory/VictoriaVargas/BeltedGallowayCattle.htm

Well KO was fun. I liked his laying out the timeline for the Bush remarks and the exact date the wording changed.

KO just said Bush was a liar. Now Dan Abrams is picking up that thread. And he's going to examine why Huckabee released a (born-again Christian) rapist.

Matthews, of course, spent his whole show whining about how religious intolerance is wrecking his beloved GOP. Why doesn't he just go to work for Fox?

Nutter Butters, no problem, but they sound more like goats than cows. It's pretty safe to say I've never met a cookie I didn't like.

Time to check out the karaoke talent at an almost local saloon. I'll check on you folks in the AM.

OMG...Now Huckabee is blaming his release of the rapist who went on to rape and murder two more women on...drum roll, please...Bill Clinton (who, it turns out, is a distant cousin of the criminal). Will it never end!?!

Mmmmm...I love Nutter Butters, but I may have a new favorite cow. Those Oreo Cookie cows are among the cutest things I've ever seen!

re:Craig's posting.
So, the Mormons believe Jesus will return and rule the world from Missouri? That's an even better tidbit then the scared underwear covered with cult symbols that they have to wear.

Romney was NOT arguing for religious tolerance. Rather, he was trying to argue that Mormonism and Fundamentalist Protestantism have the same core beliefs. Like religious intolerance.

"That's an even better tidbit then the scared underwear covered with cult symbols"

Right up there with a bunch of rich astrologists from Asia trekking across the desert by the light of a star to bring gifts to a poor kid in a stable and then high tailing it out of town thus missing a slaughter of two years old or less boys that never once gets mentioned in contemporary records even though all the other atrocities of Herod Antipas are pretty well documented.

I just love a good story.

there is an ice cream sandwich called Skinny Cows.

yo soy Horsedooty!

* Giuliani steals govt money to pay for police bodyguards for his mistress.
* Romney tries to argue that mormonism and fundamentalist Protestant Christianity are really the same thing.
* Huckabee released a rapist/murderer.
* McCain dissed the religious right in 2000, then spent 7 years sucking up to them. But they still hate him.
* Thompson is brain dead, and a bottom feeding lobbyist.

Who the hell does the GOP have left? Ron Paul?

Oh, what fresh hell is this? Now Craig has taken a spill? I just had my first outing on snow about an hour ago and shall let Craig's experience serve as a warning.

Left DFW at 11am, circled Des Moines for 1 hour, then got diverted to Cedar Rapids, hung out at that airport for 2 hours, flew back to Des Moines & circled another 1 1/2 hours before we were allowed to land. Then the hotel wouldn't send out their shuttle due to the weather so I hitched a ride with some nice folk I got to know on my plane. (It pays to carry extra granola bars & share 'em.)

Saw Huckabee on MoJo before I left and he handles the religion question very well. Skatin' on charm & now it sounds like the money is rolling in, too. Didn't know that Mitt was the Bushco candidate of choice. I can't believe that whomever gets the GOP nom will be looking for a photo-op with anyone from the Bush clan.

Craig - Mind your peas & feel better.

Jamie: If Romney believed in the separation of church and state, then his theology would be irrelevant in a political campaign. That was Kennedy's position.

But that is NOT what Romney believes. In his speech he said that, as President, he would make policy decisions based upon his religious beliefs. So they are fair game.

blue,
Welcome to snowy DSM. More nasty weather forcast for the weekend.

Blue: Tip on how to walk on snow and ice...Walk like a penguin. Little short shuffling steps.

Blue: How to keep warm...layers!

Blue: Winter sports tip. Forget skis unless you want to pay for an orthopedic surgeon's kid to go to college. Get some snow shoes.

Thanks for the winterization tips. I wonder what this is doing to campaign schedules? Florida really does make a lot more sense.

nash - I've done the skiing thing twice in my life. The first time I fell going UP a tow-rope because my friend fell ahead of me & I forgot what I was doing. The second time I fell off of a chair lift as I was getting on it and my ski got stuck (binding was too tight, so it didn't pop off the boot) and I was a human snow plow for a few seconds. Fortunately, they shut off the lift and pryed me loose. Top that! Crawford!

blue,
Campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire in the winter builds stamina...it's not supposed to be a vacation.

Nash,

That is what I was getting at. The story I outlined was written more than 100 years after Christ's death, appears in only one of the gospels and tells a story that is unconfirmed (the slaughter of the innocents) in any other contemporary record.

It was written by the one gospel meant more to appeal to ancient Greeks in much the same way as the ancient church set major holidays at the same time as pagan holidays in order to supplant them in the minds of people it was trying to convert.

There is some element of myth and magical thinking in all religions. Some sound more sane than others, but they all have tenets that must be taken on faith or adopted as parable. It doesn't take away from the decency of the people who happen to practice a particular religion.

blue - if the sidewalks get icy have someone take you out to Scheels at Jordon Creek Mall and get ice crimps in the ice fishing section of the store - about $2. They work great and obviously I should have had them on Tuesday night but I didn't think I needed them :(

Oh, so the candidates are like Rocky Balboa when he was getting ready to fight Ivan Drago? Cold does take stamina to handle.

BEAR:
We were just little kids in the cow pasture, and it wasn't done more than once I can recall.
Darn neighbor man said he would show me a magic trick.
With an audience of a half dozen of my peers, he said "here, take this penny and touch that fence and watch the magic happen!"
It was an electric fence. Ha ha..that sonofabitch!
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Senor Dooty:
Horse meat, yep. Remember my story? Short version: Army Basic Training. Sunday lunch. Cookie sez :"Skip supper fellas...they are making us cook you guys horse meat."
Didn't believe. Went to supper.

Horse meat. Salty, stringy, gray...nasty...never again. Yucchhh!

Tiptoe,

this may qualify for your list of Dirty Old GOP He is a former aid but still

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Former_GOP_aide_cops_to_child_1206.html

yo soy Horsedooty!

Back from the John Mellencamp show. One of the best concerts I've seen in years. He is a loveable lefty radical. He has an amazing stage presence that really draws the audience into the moment. I've never seen an audience that was so in sync with the performer. My take on him is that he is a populist in the mid-western tradition. I had never seen him perfrom before, but I am glad he is still performing, and I'll go see him again.

The lead in band was Los Lobos, what a treat.

Los Lobos! KICK ASS guitars!!

zoey said, 'ice crimps in the ice fishing section'. Good idea. All they have here is sand, so I buy ice cream maker salt in the summer to use on the steps.

tt

horse, that guy really qualifies! He's add to The List.

Culture of Corrupters & Family Values Evil Doers

A - Abramoff, Jack; Allen, George; Ashcroft,John; Army, US (Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch lies): Allen, Bob (trolling for $20 sex in bathroom); Addington, David (Cheney's Chief of Staff & Counsel & justifyied torture)
B - Bush, George; Brown, Mike (FEMA Brownie);(Black, Conrad on trial now); Batgnal, Joel (Homeland Security - Bin-Laden intel leak)
C - Cheney, Dick; Cunningham, Duke; Craig, Larry (bathroom lewdness)
D - Delay, Tom; Doolittle,John (R-Ca Abramoff scandal); Doherty, Chris (Reading First cronyism scandal, Education Dept.)
E -Edelman, Eric (Defense - Letter to Hillary)
F - Frist, Bill; Fastow, Andrew (ENRON); Foley, Mark; Foggo, Dusty (CIA); Feith, Douglas (Pentagon official distorted prewar intelligence); Fielding, Fred (W.H. counsel Bin-Laden intel leak)
G - Gonzales, Alberto (Fredo); Goodling, Monica; Griles, J. Steven (deputy interior secretary, lied re: Abramoff favors); Giuliani, Rudy (dirty money)
H - Hassert, Dennis; Hannity, Sean (Fox noise); Haggard, Ted (lusty evangelist); Hughes, Karen (Counselor to Bush)
I -
J -
K - Kidan, Adam; Kaden, Robert & Kristol, William (war architects. co-founded the Project for the New American Century); Kohring, Vic (AK State Rep extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill); Kott, Pete (AK extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill); Krongard, Howard J., Inspector General, Department of State - fraud & abuse in Iraq
L - Lewis; Lay, Ken, (ENRON); Libby,Scooter; Limbaugh, Rush (just because)
M - Myers, Harriet(attorney?); McNulty, Paul (Federal Deputy Attorney General - hearings); McConnell, Mitch (money to BAE)
N - Ney; Novak; Nacchio, Joe (Qwest insider trading); Nord, Nancy (lead toys); Nielsen, Jeffrey Ray (Rohrabacher (R-CA) aid, lewd lewd acts on a child)
O - O'Reilly, Bill (Fox noise)
P - Putnam, Adam (conservative media machine-Pelosi); Perle, Richard (Neo-Con jerk); Prince, Erik (Blackwater)
Q - Quakenbush,Chuck (California Insurance commissione)
R - Rumsfeld, Don; Rove, Karl; Rice, Condi; Rudy Tony; Renzi, Rick (Rep-R AZ govt land swap)
S - Safavian, David; Scanlon, Michael, Stillwel, Roger; Skilling, Jeff (ENRON); Small, Lawrence (Smithsonian): Stevens, Ted (Alaska)
T - Tobin, James; Tobias, Randall (State Dept .& call girls); TEXAS
U - Ullman, Harlan (expert on national security & on madam's list); U.S. Congress (for knuckling under to Bush); Urbahn, Keith (Rummy's aid)
V - Voltz, Neil; Vitters, David (LA Senator & the D.C. Madam); Villegas, Martin; (Bush's bootmaker & illegal shipments of banned skins into the U.S.)
W - Wolfowitz, Paul; Westmoreland, Lynn (10 Commandments); Weyhrauch, Bruce (AK extortion and bribery re: oil tax bill)
X -
Y -Yoo, John (legal authority for torture)
Z - Zachares,Mark (former congressional aide to Don Young (R-AK), pleaded guilty to accepting tens of thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff in exchange for his influence-peddling.)

tt

sorry I started to make a database and use that to display the information from the poll, after about 20 minutes I thought "what the hell am I doing it's 12 freakin people" so the results such as they are are here

http://isleofran.org/b2/index.php?blog=1

I left the comments section open in case anyone has anything interesting to say.

I B right here!
I had stuff to do and missed some of Imus yesterday, so I just played the JFKerry seg.
T. Boone Pickens backed away from his $1 million challenge to anyone who could disprove Pickens's Swift Boaters' lies.
Kerry just proved what ass wipes Pickens and those lying vets were and are.
All he can do is predict oil prices.
But I strongly believe the evangelicals gave us Bush for 4 more years . That's old history now.
Kerry ain't backin' nobody, but he did say Obama is def electable.
I'm gonna pop in a dvd of Bill Murray in Jim Jarmush's "Broken Flowers". I have the last half to watch yet.
The score in that flick is awesome.
And I said a prayer for poor Kiefer Sutherland, rotting away in jail, doing 48 days for drinkin' & drivin'..
He's in a ten foot cell at night after workin' the laundry and helpin' with the beans and hot dogs and white bread in the county jail kitchen.
It may be hard to have sympathy for a man who could have hailed a cab or hired a limo...or just let a friend drive...but you can imagine how uncomfortable those thin cots must be to try to sleep on.
Pruno, anyone?

I've had IT. For those of you, like me, who have had IT:

http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/shoppingindex.html

*applause*

tt

a most amazing guitarist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pnt4ls9cAU&eurl=http://www.crooksandliars.com/

OMG...Now Huckabee is blaming his release of the rapist who went on to rape and murder two more women on...drum roll, please...Bill Clinton (who, it turns out, is a distant cousin of the criminal). Will it never end!?!
post by Harborwoman

it was the rape victim who is distant cousin of Bill Clinton......not the criminal.....she was the daughter of a Clinton donor.......the anti-clinton faction in Arkansas wanted the Rapist Dumond released.....after all, he was born again.........Huckabore put on his polyester cape and flew to the rapist's rescue........

"How's that workin' out for ya, Huck?"

Clinton is a distant cousin of the victim