Are Mike Huckabee’s Republican presidential rivals afraid of him? For two debates in a row they let him skate. Which is why the former Arkansas governor could win this thing.
The conundrum facing Huckabee’s foes is simple -- they need his voters. And hitting him too hard means risking the potential support of his base.
Despite those risks, Huckabee’s competitors missed an important opportunity in Wednesday’s debate. This was the moment for stopping his momentum. And they passed.
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Oh God...... I so rarely pray for anything......
but please.....please.... oh so pretty please hear my plea....
please let Huckabee win the Repug nomination.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | December 12, 2007 5:09 PM
The format of the debate, designed to talk about the issues not yet covered in the campaign, didn't lend itself to food fight politics.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 12, 2007 5:09 PM
Lets see. Matthews is talking about political jokes. He has now shown three examples and all of them are Hillary. Tweety's fair and balanced is starting to look like faux noise.
Posted by: Jamie | December 12, 2007 5:44 PM
Renee
From your mouth to God's ears. What do we have to seal the bargain?
Posted by: Jamie | December 12, 2007 5:47 PM
Oh Craig, baring being found in bed with a boy, Huckabee has definately won Iowa. All those statements that good decent folks find horrific are just the type of hate mongering the Iowa repugs thrive on.
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 5:48 PM
Renee,
"yup..... that woman moderator showed more balls than Matthews, Russert, and Blitzer put together..... but that's because she wanted answers..... they just wanted a food fight....."
After the debate I caught about five minutes of post debate analysis. Tweety and Neil Cavuto and Brit Hume, said essentially what you said, though they didn't use the term "food fight." What a shame that the cable news pundits don't want a civil, meaningful debate.
Though if Alan Keyes had thrown a pie at Tancredo, that might have been interesting...
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 5:52 PM
From what I say of the repug debate, the moderator seemed like a major control, and it very dull. From what I'm now hearing on Tweety I didn't miss much.
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 5:53 PM
Jamie,
"Matthews is talking about political jokes."
Matthews IS a political joke.
You made me click on Hardball where the three panelists and Tweety were saying the debate wasn't worth a damn, and that it wasn't really a debate, complaining about the moderator. Perhaps Tweety was just trying to cover his abysmal performance compared to a true moderator. Perhaps he just doesn't get it. But once again I'm taking the pledge: No More Tweety.
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 5:57 PM
Hey Brian,
Ask a non practicing catholic, I take great ...offense... to your statement "baring being found in bed with a boy". This brings back all of the ill will of the church abuse scandals.
I believe the sex scandal of the likes of Huckabee would adult male prostitutes or buxom secretaries in great need of dental work and cosmetic surgery...lol
Posted by: Bear
| December 12, 2007 5:57 PM
Brian,
It wasn't dull, it was pretty informative. Ok, if what you wanted was a food fight, it was dull. And it was entertaining to see the moderator moderate and not take any shit from the candidates. I think they're replaying in on C-SPAN later if you're interested.
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 6:00 PM
Tweety must be like car accident. None of you want to watch , but you always do!
Posted by: Corey
| December 12, 2007 6:02 PM
Corey,
"Tweety must be like car accident. None of you want to watch , but you always do!"
And always regret it...
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 6:06 PM
Hey Zoey,
There's a drawing to have dinner with Bill Richardson and Martin Sheen in Iowa.
http://action.richardsonforpresident.com/page/s/sheen
I'm figuring they can bring you dinner, since you don't want to be going out on the ice with those crutches...
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 6:09 PM
Jeb Bartlett for President!
Posted by: Bear
| December 12, 2007 6:14 PM
Hucksterbee is trying to hide his donor list because it is full of Rudee people who are trying tank Willard
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 12, 2007 6:21 PM
dnd,
Thanks for the Sheen/Richardson heads-up. I would love to have them deliver me dinner but I'm holding out hoping for a Kevin Bacon spongebath contest.
Actually, I met Martin Sheen and "Meathead" when they were stumping for Dean in Iowa in 2003. There was a press party at one of the clubs after the November MSNBC debate. Dean was there too. Martin Sheen was the most interesting of the group to talk to.
He sent us a script from West Wing autographed by the cast for our county dem's Fall fundraiser this year.
Posted by: zoey
| December 12, 2007 6:30 PM
With all this Mormon bashing one has to ask "Is Mormon the new gay?"
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 6:50 PM
"Is Mormon the new gay?"
That was worth tuning in for today! Well put, Brian.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 6:58 PM
*bows*
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 6:59 PM
*bows in silver opera cape*
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 7:03 PM
It's at the cleaners, (I've learned from Monica's mistake)
*rolls his eyes*
And please patsi don't accuse me of Hillary bashing for making a Bill joke.
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 7:17 PM
PISA Study out. U.S. ranks 24 out of 26 and the students who do well tend to be well to do and low income usually equals low scores - a condition that doesn't exist in other developed nations.
Who would have thunk it. Our schools are even worse than our medical care.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41278-2004Dec6.html
Posted by: Jamie | December 12, 2007 7:32 PM
Jamie,
I guess Rudy didn't see that study before his comment on education at today's debate.
Posted by: dnd | December 12, 2007 7:43 PM
tweety doesn't understand the daily show is making fun of the news as well as politicians.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 12, 2007 7:45 PM
Not only did I win in Vegas, I come back and see this.
"It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" said Shaheen, whose wife Jeanne is the state's former governor and is running for the U.S. Senate next year.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071212/D8TG6QUG0.html
Clinton people must be reading my posts and are finally getting around to question Obama's drug use. Obama, "I said it, so it must be true. Liberal Whites just accept the fact that all Black youth use and sell drugs.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| December 12, 2007 8:12 PM
Nonsense!
Posted by: Corey
| December 12, 2007 8:15 PM
"And please patsi don't accuse me of Hillary bashing for making a Bill joke."
No, Brian...I understand that Bill's blow job has been the single biggest crime against TRUE "AM-UR-ICANS" in the past couple of decades. I realize that no other man has ever cheated on his wife -- especially in Washington DC -- and that the Clinton years were sickening compared to this paast eight years. Nah....go ahead and have fun. Keep acting like a junior high girl about Bill Clinton and any day now Chris Matthews will ask you for a date, Ms. Starr.
Posted by: Patsi | December 12, 2007 8:16 PM
Patsi one too many trips to the kool-aid bar today?
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 12, 2007 8:18 PM
KO is talking about how Republicans love torture.
This works with their violent, stupid, religious fanatic, racist, redneck base but they're losing the swing voters.
The Republican party is going so far to the right, they're self-destructing.
But the MSM won't talk about that. Ever.
Posted by: nash
| December 12, 2007 8:25 PM
Jamie:
re: education & health care.
Americans THINK they have it better than any other country. They are WRONG, but they are too stupid and uninformed to know it.
Posted by: nash
| December 12, 2007 8:28 PM
Nash:
Amen! There are people trying to enlighten them, but they masses don't want to see that their once great nation is becoming much less so....
Posted by: harborwoman | December 12, 2007 8:56 PM
the masses, not they masses
Posted by: harborwoman | December 12, 2007 8:57 PM
Holiday shopping help, plz (Sr. Dooty -- this means you): am looking for some offbeat T shirts for gifts; used to love to give shirts w Tex Mex theme from local restaurant, but they've stopped making them.
Can you all suggest any cool looking T shirts; maybe w neat logos, or stylized in some way. Or with cool photos or graphics or whacked out animals or whatever.
Many thanks!
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 9:30 PM
How about this place , Dog?
http://www.80stees.com/
Posted by: Corey
| December 12, 2007 9:42 PM
DOg: i fyo have a good printer you can make your own t-shirts for about the amount of money you would pay someone else
try this one
http://www.bustedtees.com/
Posted by: ran | December 12, 2007 9:42 PM
ack ,my speeling is atroshus
Posted by: ran | December 12, 2007 9:43 PM
http://www.tshirthell.com/hell.shtml
Posted by: ran | December 12, 2007 9:48 PM
Wow...I am kinda stunned. Years ago, when I only had my daughter's computer here to check the web and emails, I started posting about a TV Show I enjoyed.
I made friends with a man just 90 minutes west of me, and we shared family events and joy and mourning like all good friends do.
He slipped on this fucking ice Monday night and cracked his head.
He went to bed.
His daughter found him dead in bed Tuesday morning. He was 46, full of life, a voracious gardener, a former chef, and an I T expert, professionally.
He was from Missouri and a great fan of the St. Louis Cardinals and Notre Dame football.
And the whole thing seems impossible.
Damn.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 12, 2007 10:04 PM
Dexter,
I am so sorry for your loss. It is hard to understand when things like this happen so suddenly...to someone so young...with so much undone.
Posted by: zoey
| December 12, 2007 10:10 PM
Dex: so sorry. What an untimely loss. Sounds like a really interesting guy.
Ran: thanks for T shirt suggestions; checking them out. Would not say I have a good printer, but who knows?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 10:12 PM
Dex...I'm sorry. Don't know what else to say...just, I'm sorry.
Posted by: harborwoman | December 12, 2007 10:17 PM
Dog: the printer I was using to make t-shirts is 3 three years old so if you have a newer printer it's probably good enough. I bought a bunch of transfers from Staples for pretty cheap and some good quality t-shirts for fairly cheap and went crazy with the computer software. It was a pretty simple process once I got the pictures ready
Posted by: ran | December 12, 2007 10:24 PM
Dexter: sorry to hear about your friend
Posted by: ran | December 12, 2007 10:25 PM
Lord! Dex -- what a tragedy. Very sorry.
Posted by: Patsi | December 12, 2007 10:26 PM
Corey, how about this T?
"Everybody lies"
http://shop.seenon.com/
And it's for charity, NAMI. A very good cause.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 12, 2007 10:56 PM
I need to incorporate a Leg Lamp into my decor, somehow.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 12, 2007 10:57 PM
Thanks all...i don't even know which funeral home he is at yet...tomorrow will be busy.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 12, 2007 10:59 PM
dog I am the most boring dresser on the planet. I would be the last one to ask about apparel. Good luck.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 12, 2007 11:02 PM
dooty: I was sure you could come up with some hole in the wall that makes great T shirts.
But thanks to ran and Corey; checking out Tiptoe's link now.
ran's first link was the best; a T from Michael Vick's dog farm in Surrey, VA (Surrey was previously famous mostly for importing NY's garbage and for its dirt bike tracks); an Amish figure with "Don't Drink or Drive."
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 11:06 PM
dog look here
Chuy's is a nice mexican rest here in texas
http://www.chuys.com/t1.jpg
http://www.chuys.com/t4.jpg
http://www.chuys.com/t3.jpg
http://www.chuys.com/t6.jpg
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 12, 2007 11:10 PM
I just sent 4 jpgs that are being held for el jeffe's approval for some reason.
google Chuy's Rest in Austin.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 12, 2007 11:12 PM
from SLATE:
"Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
-- Mike Huckabee, to the New York Times Magazine. Huckabee later apologized to Romney.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 12, 2007 11:16 PM
dooty: thanks re Chuy's. Exactly kind of stuff I was looking for. Of course, their online T shirt store is closed for time being (WTF), but may call them tomorrow.
Will have to try them when next in Texas.
www.chuys.com
=====
PS: as Dex reminds above, campaign '08 is coming up with lots of T shirt quality sayings too.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 12, 2007 11:26 PM
here is another that a friend put on cafepress
http://www.cafepress.com/lgformattexans
might navigate around in there and see if anything blows your skirt up.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 12, 2007 11:47 PM
Dex, unfortunately, I can empathize with your sorrow & loss. I just found out that a former boss of mine from Toledo, about 30 years ago, just died. Like you, I'm in shock. He was a voice on the phone over the years and had a great sense of humor like Erma Bombeck. A real joy to reminisce and talk with. They just had the 'funeral'. His widow had him cremated, and they had a celebration of his life releasing balloons, etc. I like this, and he would have liked it too.
Bummer.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 12, 2007 11:57 PM
Sorry to hear about your bud Dex, sucks.
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 13, 2007 12:14 AM
Mrs Dex can Dex come out to play?
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 13, 2007 1:26 AM
I B here.
I hadda email a buncha friends from all over the USA...Seattle, Chicago, Phoenix, LA, Sacramento, Troy, NY, NYC, Florida...on and on, about our late friend. He was great friends with a lady in LA and flew out there in the summers to see her. She is a good friend of mine, too.
She just told me he was going to call me this weekend about New Years Eve.
Yes , Brian, it sucks.
OK, no more on that topic, I'm done.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 13, 2007 1:44 AM
TT, that was a great life-celebration they had for your old boss-friend. That was just so cool to read.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 13, 2007 1:46 AM
Whose idea was it to have a debate in the afternoon, midweek? What the hell?
I see the Dems are doin' that, too, next time.
When I heard it was on "this afternoon" I thought the newsman misspoke. So I missed the whole thing.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 13, 2007 1:48 AM
Dems are doing the same thing today, I guess it's Iowa and they go to bed early!
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 13, 2007 1:51 AM
Lets hope whom ever moderates the Dem's debate actually has a personality!
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 13, 2007 2:27 AM
TY 4 the tip on that debate...I'll scope it out later..time for grapenuts cereal , skim milk, and XM Jazz to crash to...
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Posted by: Dexter
| December 13, 2007 2:38 AM
Yep, Dex it was a good send off. I'm very in favor of what she did. I'm glad he didn't suffer or linger. He had a heart attack and that was it. I wanna be at ground zero too. The good days - bad days thing and a deteriorating quality of life just doesn't appeal to me.
I can hear him say to not be sad and continue on. He's 'up there' joking around with the 'angels'. He was an aircraft nut.
Since life is so short and ya just nevah know, maybe I should go nutz & do all the stuff I don't do now or never did.?
Hummm.....
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 13, 2007 2:40 AM
I'm glad you're getting your fiber, at your age a clean colon is a happy colon.
Posted by: Brian In NYC
| December 13, 2007 2:48 AM
Just what we need. Another crazy fundamentalist Christian pandering to the draconian social ultra-conservatives. When will Americans demand an end to the inter-mingling of state and religion? Theocracy and theology should not be a model of leading the most important country in the world.
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