"ICE Campaign - 'In Case of Emergency'
We all carry our mobile phones with names & numbers stored in its memory but nobody, other than ourselves, knows which of these numbers belong to our closest family or friends.
If we were to be involved in an accident or were taken ill, the people attending us would have our mobile phone but wouldn't know who to call. Yes, there are hundreds of numbers stored but which one is the contact person in case of an emergency? Hence this 'ICE' (In Case of Emergency) Campaign.The concept of 'ICE' is catching on quickly. It is a method of contact during emergency situations. As cell phones are carried by the majority of the population, all you need to do is store the number of a contact person or persons who should be contacted during emergency under the name 'ICE' ( In Case Of Emergency).
The idea was thought up by a paramedic who found that when he went to the scenes of accidents, there were always mobile phones with patients, but they didn't know which number to call. He therefore thought that it would be a good idea if there was a nationally recognized name for this purpose. In an emergency situation, Emergency Service personnel and hospital Staff would be able to quickly contact the right person by simply dialing the number you have stored as 'ICE.'
For more than one contact name simply enter ICE1, ICE2 and ICE3 etc. A great idea that will make a difference!
Let's spread the concept of ICE by storing an ICE number in our Mobile phones today!
Please forward this. It won't take too many 'forwards' before everybody will know about this. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's mind at rest. ICE will speak for you when you are not able to."
I got this as part of a group e-mail from work. I forwarded this onto a bunch of folks and will do it myself.
Now all the candidates are going to want their own hostage crisis. Look at all the attention Hillary got for this. NH local TV was wall to wall coverage, plus the national networks & cable were all there. Good exposure for her, everyone else has to make a pathetic statement of prayers, support....
It may have been good news for Rudy because it distracts people from his sordid affairs.
CLEARWATER, Fla. (Nov. 30) - Evel Knievel, the red-white-and-blue-spangled motorcycle daredevil whose jumps over crazy obstacles including Greyhound buses, live sharks and Idaho's Snake River Canyon made him an international icon in the 1970s, died Friday. He was 69.
yeah whose is ooking presidential and who is looking like a cheap Tammaney Hall operative
"McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, pointed to Kerik's performance in Iraq, along with complaints about how Giuliani treated first-responders after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, as reasons why the former mayor's presidential campaign should deserve greater scrutiny from voters.
"I don't know Mr. Kerik. I do know that I went to Baghdad shortly after the initial victory and met in Baghdad with (Ambassador Paul) Bremer and (Lt. Gen. Ricardo) Sanchez. And Kerik was there. Kerik was supposed to be there to help train the police force. He stayed two months and one day left, just up and left," McCain told reporters traveling on his campaign bus." http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gXdnhrTEdtdGReIpM6EAPkxVlnswD8SQC0R82
It's international aids awareness day and Shrub is spending 350 million on aids but 200 million is spent on abstinence education.....which does not work
there will be tests...but you may not know you are participating
"By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY
The federal government's "no sex without marriage" message isn't just for kids anymore.
Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money that will be available to the states under revised federal grant guidelines for 2007.
The government says the change is a clarification. But critics say it's a clear signal of a more directed policy targeting the sexual behavior of adults.
"They've stepped over the line of common sense," said James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit that supports sex education. "To be preaching abstinence when 90% of people are having sex is in essence to lose touch with reality. It's an ideological campaign. It has nothing to do with public health."
Pat Buchanan is up in Concord New Hampshire on a stage getting ready to speak to his supporters. Suddenly a group breaks into a chant, disrupting the proceedings.
I gotta agree w/Craig that Hillary looked presidential out in front of her house. I disagree that it's an indelible image. And the timing, Friday afternoon, couldn't be worse news-wise. It's difficult to imagine how the Clinton campaign can milk much more out of this without looking exploitative or as cheezy as Rudy explaining that he wasn't trying to hide public funding of his extra-marital affair.
ps. Craig, typo at the top: (clips my Mad Mustard)
Lee -- I knew you weren't really taking a shot at my pal Tanya. Yeah, she's pretty honest about her wild times.
Dex and Brian were talking about Christmas gifts....I'm pretty much screwed now because I got in the spirit over Thanksgiving and let my granddaughter Maria open all her presents! Back to ToysRUs....or somewhere.
Since I grew up in an era when "Good Girls Don't Do That Until They Are Married!!" managed to keep most females in squeeky clean (well almost squeeky) until at least their senior year in high school with a lot of weddings the day after graduation - 200 million for abstinance always sounds a little silly.
"....200 million for abstinance always sounds a little silly." Jamie
Shrubco instutionalizes their most ridiculous politicies
Institute of Medicine: Abstinence Education Spending Requirement Hinders International Response to HIV/AIDS
A highly anticipated review of the first three years of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) unequivocally recommends greater flexibility in the global fight against HIV/AIDS, including doing away with minimum budget allocations for abstinence-until-marriage education currently http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100220.html
and yet as we mark another International Aids Awareness Day abstinence remains the policy getting a required leve of spending.
I would prefer that the gov't stay the hell out of any kind of sex ed, but I'm not so unaware as to think that if human sexuality weren't taught in schools (at least on this side of the border) that some kids just wouldn't learn about it. My daughters, who are now young adults, learned about human sexuality from the second grade (yes, that dreaded phrase "age appropriate") but it started with the actual anatomy (the reproductive system along with the digestive system, etc.) and then (i'm thinking back here now, so, I might be a tad foggy) by 6th grade, and that would be around the age of 12, they were taught about various forms of birth control, the effectiveness, etc. In our individual case, we (hubby and I) have always just answered the questions and initiated conversations from the beginning. My older daughter is now in a healthy, loving relationship with a guy I actually LIKE (oh man.. coulda been one of those mohawkers with a ring in his lip, but PRAISE God, it wasnt!) and she's responsible and smart.
This is a systemic problem with the Goopers. It used to be that Republicans just sorta ignored sex ed. I don't agree, but at least it left it up to individuals and families. But since the marriage of the GOP and the JIM (Jesus is Mighty) much of what this administration has done is actually dangerous. To hire JIMers only to important portfolios like human sexuality, NASA, Environment, Education (yes, the world was created 5,000 years ago and man roamed the earth with dinosaurs), is leaving a legacy of stupidity to their children and grandchildren.
And that's the view from north of the border. It's great to read all your posts again (haha.. the biggest difference between a dem and a gooper is the sense of humour!) I'll have to do some wandering through the pages here.
Was good to see Craig on Hardball too. (well, on the youtube post anyway.. i can't stand an hour with Tweety.)
Checking in before I lose electricity. So far the Heartland Forum is going ahead as planned with the rally and march canceled. I doubt I will be going since the only traffic past my house has been a lone snow plow. Here is the link for the page where you will find the link for the web cast:: http://www.movementvisionlab.org/blog/the-heartland-presidential-forum-is-on
Everything is covered with ice, numerous power outages, the airport is closed, and law enforcement is asking everyone to stay home. They are predicting rain by 3:00 with 40 degrees later tonight. Very weird.
stay warm and take care..... snow is fine..... but ice sucks!
loved Charlie the Unicorn....
Craig..... great appearance on HB.....
Tweety was his usual self..... a fool.....
Tylenol...... great to see you again.....
are you crossing the border into this country to do your Xmas shopping like so many of your compatriots?..... there's some good deals down here.....
Thanks Jamie, I was invited to participate in the virtual booksigning but had to be gone that night.
Oddly enough, when he was here recently to stump for Hillary, I had several opportunities to spend some time with him. I left my book in my car each time and never got it signed. Somehow the thought to do it got lost in the shuffle of actually talking to the man.
Weather update: we now have .40 inches of ice and it is continuing. No, this is not normal but happening more often the last few years. We usually get snow.
RE the Rudy expenses debacle -- which you might have discussed and I missed -- do you think this will be fatal to him?
It should be; no Democrat would still be in the race at this point. Further, it says dishonesty with using public funds and a disturbing sense of entitlement.
How can people overlook that, and isn't it troubling since 70% of the country wants a new direction and he's early warning that his administration would be Abramoff on steroids?
Thanks Doots
I think Hucksterbee is the creepiest of all the candidates.
on the Ghoul
Tweety's comments on it included a slam at the Clintons. MSGOP's reporting (sic) had failed to mention the use of public funds to cart his mistress around. And despite Liar Buchanan's efforts to the contrary Rudee was not separated at the time
and no one interviewing Buchanan corrected any of the lies he told in support of the Plunger.
dono nobis I chose just cos I needed an "internet email" that didnt have my real name in it.. and yes, because of my present and future vocation.
I'm not crossing the border..period.. Border guards are not my favourite people. What a-holes! Besides, prices are dropping here like magic! Might as well shop here without the 3 hour waits at the border. Honestly.. I'm a 50 year old blonde non-descript woman who always..ALWAYS ends up on the wrong side of the border inspection..
Oh Craig, I guess it is to each his own. Having lived in Owensboro, KY (self-proclaimed BBQ capital of the World) and Memphis, TN (home of the Memphis in May BBQ cooking championship), I can't eat the smoked meat they pass off as BBQ here. It is difficult to even find real baby back ribs at the grocery store. I think they grow the hogs too meaty. At least we don't have the controversy over whether to parboil or not , like they do in Owensboro. I am glad at least that you are finding food to your liking when out on the trail.
KGC,
Not exactly your list of heart healthy fare ;-) Though it's out of season, the best food I've had by far in Iowa is the sweet corn from northeast Iowa. And maybe outside of Olathe, CO, it's the best sweet corn in the world.
Oh, Zoey, you shouldn't have gone there... BBQ is a mighty touchy subject with the Crawfordlisters. My preference is for KC style, but I'm sure we'll hear from the Carolina and Texas contingents.
ps. I think they tend to cut the ribs St. Louis style in Iowa, so it's not surprising you don't find baby back ribs.
so is this an admission that the Global War on Terror is a sham or is it just another screwed up idea from the Bush admin? I know there are Rethugs out there that just hate this.
"so is this an admission that the Global War on Terror is a sham"
Senor Dooty, This is another example of this administration's complete incompetence. The British have demonstrated over and over that if you want to fight terrorism, you do it with investigation and good police work. So Bush wants to cut the funds that protect us at home so that he can race half way around the world to abuse people who never did a darn thing to him while making billions for his oil buddies.
Oh and if you are in Mexican joint and you see Babacoa on the menu DON'T I repeat DO NOT order it unless you like cow face or brains. Gross but just because it sounds like bbq don't make it so. Just saying...
Zoey,
Since you're relatively new here, let me state for the record that while Doots may have a somewhat limited repertoire in BBQ, the guy knows how to take a photograph:
Zoey -- you mentioned "Memphis, TN (home of the Memphis in May BBQ cooking championship)," -- An aside: I was invited to be a judge at that event one year back when my kids were younger. It started raining heavily that morning and when I tried to take the kids under the judges tent with me (they were high school and junior high age) I was told they'd have to go back to my car because they didn't have room for anyone but the judges under the tent. (My car was parked many blocks away.)
I said, "WTF?" and then we all, my kids and me, walked through the rain, found the car and went to Graceland. Memphis' bbq can kiss my butt. :)
It's way too early, but I have been challenged by a friend to pick the Democrat VP candidate, assuming Clinton is the pres.cand.
I told him nobody can do that, because it's frequently a surprise , hasty decision.
I told him all I can do is rule out a few.
John Edwards, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson will not be asked...Edwards has already done that gig, Biden will likely be Sec'y of Defense, and Bill Richardson Sec'y of State.
Hillary is buddy-buddy with Biden on Iraq.
Most of the posts in those linked stories are from last summer, so I didn't see your review, Craig, but I had fantastic Famous Dave's ribs in Minneapolis a few years ago and have been to the Toledo Famous Dave's joint a few times this year already.
It's a great place for hungry people and for kids, too...in Toledo they serve huge amounts of food ON UPTURNED GARBAGE CAN LIDS.
I prefer the saucy ribs but some prefer the brisket. It's a fun place and a half dozen people can stuff themselves with ribs and signature draft root beer for a C-Note.
dog: I had my first grilled steak of the year a couple days ago...NY strips here, but if I had mah druthers, gimmee a rare Porterhouse, extra thick cut, and a green salad and garlic mashed taters.
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Everybody around here is going crazy ... if Mizzou loses maybe Ohio State can make it to the BCS Championship game...we'll see...me being a Michigan fan, I could not care less.
Evan Bayh, Strickland -Gov of Ohio, and Wes Clark have all got pretty good mentions as possible VPs. Previously I thought being VP wasn't that great of an office since there are other offices I believe have more power and influence. However, I have begun to think it wouldn't be such a bad jumping off place for someone who has aspirations of becoming president one day. It will probably be no one we have heard about yet although, Edwards being chosen last time kind of broke the mold.
Nice art Doots. Dog - steak sounds great. Patsi, I wasn't all that interested in MIM BBQ contest. I preferred the MIM Beale Street Music Festival. The Al Green clip reminded me of seeing him and Rufus Thomas at Tom Lee Park on the banks of the Mississipi. I spent many a weekend on Beale.
dog...very cold...maybe 20 F. Just now getting our first sticking snow...roads just now becoming slick and dangerous.
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TYLENOL:
Your email addy you posted is flawed. It has been discontinued or disabled. I sent you a welcome back email and it was sent back immediately 2 times.
KGC, Gordon (Iowa True Blue) is solidly behind Obama. He is sometimes on a local political show on Sunday mornings. He was on the show (called the Insiders) the day he announced his support of Obama. Previous to that he touted it as a big Obama endorsement. Not so much, as far as I am concerned. Gordon is a former State Chair but I don't think anyone will support Obama just because of Gordon's support.
On-the-other hand Gordon is in a position to know about endorsements long before they are announced in the press. I'll let you know if I hear anything about this. I hope this doesn't mean Gordon will be on the Insiders tomorrow. I much prefer Jerry Crawford to any of the other Dems. He is a Hillary supporter but extremely fair in his comments. It is my absolute favorite political show with 1 Dem, 1 Rep, and a moderator. They discuss current political issues and when Jerry and Mahaffey, the Repub are on they are so professional. It is a real joy to hear about issues from people who know what they are talking about and do not shout at and over each other.
Doots, I have bookmarked the link to the photos, they really are good. They brought back a memory I had about the photography contest at the state fair one year. The state fair photography contest is a really big deal and the quality of the photos is superb. Every year they have a theme and my favorite was when they selected the theme of old barns. The barns are disappearing as quickly as the family farms are disappearing. It was nice to see that at least that part of our heritage will be preserved through photos. Some of them, like the churches, are so fascinating to look at.
Sorry, Brian, I ain't makin' no brownies 2nite!
Dinner was a PBJ sandwich, tomato rice soup, cottage cheese, and sweet apple cider and black tea.
Mrs. Dexter got called in to work, ruining our dinner plans at a restaurant, and I just grabbed anything handy.
it might be a Collins. Both of them live in Austin, TX. I am sure there is at least a pickup in it, maybe more than one. Bill Collins worked for my friend Michael Stevens as a repairman before he started building guitars. Back then Michael lived over in East Austin in a place we all called "Fort Guitar" due to the large fence and security system.
The Las Vegas Culinary Union may be about to endorse Obama. Could that be the big announcement Iowa True Blue was talking about or maybe the Illinois AFSCME that endorsed Obama today?
Quite the controversy with the culinary people. "So Culinary officials were as shocked as local political scribes when they read a report in the Washington Post last week, on the eve of the Democratic debate, that pinpointed the unveiling date of the union’s coveted presidential endorsement. Apparently, it’s Dec. 2."
Well SON of a gun!! I just checked that email addy and learned that they DISCONTINUED it due to low use. SO i've set up a new one: adeste_fidalis@yahoo.ca. and thanks Dex.. you really ARE a sweetie!
Well, I guess we know who Frank Rich is for! I had not heard that peggy noonan had written that many repuggs have developed a fondness for Obama.
I gotta think about that one.
I agree with Frank that those people want to run against HRC,
Gee...65 repugg references to HRC to none for Obama...or the rest of the field...they must have countless volleys stored up to chuck at Hillary.
is anyone else interested in entering out weekly election poll? there is a little more information on Craig's blogroll under Poll and if you have any other questions you can e-mail to thepollman at isleofran dot org.
it won't likely take 5 minutes of your time once a week and could provide us with some interesting topics of discussion.
any lurkers or new folks can join up as well, I am only registering voters to keep people from voting more than once or having supporters of a candidate load in on their pick.
a note that should be on topic, I am prediciting that something is going to happen between 3 and 9 months that's going to throw the election in turmoil
zoey: sorry I didn't get to your dot today, I'd go stand in the corner as punishment but I'm aready sitting there. tomorrow for sure though
Brian:
Just DON'T do what my work-buddy Bruce did, years ago when he got his first microwave.
First thing Bruce used it for was to warm up some canned beans.
He told me he dumped the beans into a microwave-safe bowl .
That was all he figured he needed as far as written instructions went.
He said he figured ten minutes on high ought to get those beans hot.
He set the timer for ten minutes on high and went in to watch the news for ten minutes.
It was a good, 1000 watt appliance, and he had beans that had exploded ...all over mostly the top of the cooking area.
Baked on, hard as cement, an hour to clean up.
Then he went to the coffee table for his reading glasses.Yes, then.
heat water in a microwave bowl, really hot(BE CAREFUL) the steam will loosen any stuff from the microwave door, walls and vent, turns an hour job into a 2 minute job
However let me take this opportunity to post my new favorite website. I think a lot of you Listers would ike this one....For every correct vocabularly word you get, six grains of rice are donated to fight world hunger. (Hopefully this is for real.)
Yikes...and when he was on nerfball Tweety asked something about this and the Huckster said he doesn't think he is God but he does believe God speaks to him and that he can speak for God.
If he wasn't creepy enough, he is a former (and possiby) current client of Prick Morris http://www.politico.com/ and I think the Dick Morris pic is from the 1980's --he is a big old tub of lard now.
"Free Rice" is for real. I blogged about it a while back and need to get a permanent button up. You can get addicted to it if you love words. My record so far: Level 47 and 1000 grains of rice.
Dex, ran,
Be careful about microwaving water. I could get superheated and not boil. Best idea is to put a wooden chopstick or something the bubbles will form on.
Jamie,
I hate to be nit-picky on a Sunday morning, but the RPC average isn't a valid measure.
1. since the sample sizes vary, you can't take take the average of the averages.
2. since the sample sizes vary, so do the error bounds.
3. since the error bounds aren't given taking the averages is meaningless.
4. the number of significant digits is incorrect.
There is a way to get a correct average, but apparently the folks are RCP are not aware of it.
Morning Crawdads. No rain yet which means -- another few hours dedicated to working with brown leaves. House backs up to parkland, and this is the only downside.
I don't have nits, but you can do my grooming anyway. It's a nice pleasantry among friends. I don't know how they come by their average, but they do show the individual polls used in that average, so pick the one you like.
Jamie,
The sum the results of the five individual polls and divide by 5. They really need to put the accuracy of each poll in their results.
But while I'm nit picking, MoDo quotes Andrew Sullivan in her column saying about Obama "In one simple image, America’s soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm.” My guess is that he meant "exponentially", the inverse function of the logarithm. Logarithms flatten out as their argument increases.
How can Blanquita even talk with those lips? Doesn't she have a clue how ugly they are? Someone should inform her that aging gracefully does not include clown makeup, bleached platinum hair and dragon lady claws.
It is a great MoDo column and she is asking the right questions. First I truly despise the constant commentary on the Obama/Mama horse race that totally excludes any of the other candidates who might be better Presidents.
As to prodigies living up to potential, usually if they don't the potential wasn't there in the first place.
If Obama becomes the nominee, I will vote for him, but it will be against my better judgement. The Presidency is no place to get your "seasoning".
Jamie,
1. I concur. I (obviously) don't like that the MSM treats it as an Obama/Hillary race.
2. I find it interesting that the two national front runners strategy is: "if you don't vote for me, the terrorists win."
3. I concur. Webb is great. I don't think he wants to be veep, but he'd make a great president.
"It looks like True Blue Gordon took down his post about an Obama endorsement.....wonder what that means...?"
KGC - Mom changed her mind, someone told Gordon Oprah already announced her endorsement, or most likely it was the culinary union in Nevada, who seems to be having some organizational problems.
Ran - no rush on my dot. You need to get out of that corner.
All - Re: the Iowa Poll on the Dem side. The methodology is sound but the results are statistically insignificant for Obama, Clinton, Edwards.It will serve to grab some national headlines for Obama, however.
Jerry Crawford, Dem on the "Insiders" this morning says, "Mitt has one of the best organized campaigns he has ever seen in the state." This is not spin and Jerry knows his stuff. He was instrumental in John Kerry's Iowa win and works for Hillary this time. However, I would not under estimate the power of the pulpit for the Huckster. Jerry also continues to say, "if the caucus were held today, John Edwards would win." This has been a consistent prediction. I'll let you all know if I hear him say something different in the future.
just popping in to say Hi.....
leaving very shortly to go to my parents place and celebrate my mom's 80th birthday.....
since my father is now housebound, my parents can no longer go to restaurants..... their favorite has always been Chinese..... Rick and I are going to stop on our way at their favorite Chinese place and get a mess of take out.....
unfortunately the weather coming this way has stopped my sister from coming up from NYC..... she teaches art in a private school and was going to take a personal day tomorrow so she could stay over at my parent tonight..... but we are supposedly getting 10-12 inches of snow tonight and into tomorrow....
oh well..... I'll see her at Xmas.....
my brother and his wife are coming in from the coast of Massachusetts.... it'll be good to see them......
everyone have a nice Sunday and stay warm and toasty.....
dnd: yes Mitt has spent a bundle, Huckster not so much. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. In Iowa, organization is everything and it doesn't take a lot of money to have a strong organization. It does take hard work, however. Even if he wins, Mitt is wasting money, IMO.
My power never went out. It got up to 40 degrees last night but we now have re-freeze. The last I checked the wind chill was about 10 degrees. BRRR. We had 70 degrees two weeks ago. I am not acclimated yet.
I am working with Harry Smith's (CBS) producer on a broadcast from Central College (Harry's alma mater) in the morning for their morning show. I will have to leave my house at 3 am. I hate to think how cold it will be.
Yeah, I am so glad we no longer have a coronation in place before a vote has been cast.
Don't know about you all, but the "Clinton is Inevitable" theme really hit the wrong chord with me. After being a passenger for terrible politics post 9/11 -- with an administration impervious to public will -- hearing "you don't have a choice in the next election either" was astonishingly tonedeaf.
We need a candidate who did not start on third base; got that in 2000 and it was not a huge success.
Meant GWBush with slam about 3rd base -- meaning he was president's son; then realized same could apply to Al Gore. Who actually won the 2000 election.
dog it's the "Clinton is Inevitable", and the "We'll take a donation from anyone" that made me decide look elsewhere. Two years ago I was a firm Hillary for prez person.
Brian, ran, Shelia, and anybody else,
I'm doing some Christmas shopping for a food processor. I don't have a clue. I've heard the KitchenAid 670 is good. But I need some advice from those in the know.
I think she's been a very hard working senator. I think our senior senator is a far great statesman than Hillary. Her vote on Leiberman/Kyle troubled me to my core.
The only thing that truly bothers me about all the first "inevitable" and now "challenged" and of course inbetween thanks to the hostage guy "presidential",
It just seems to that everything we really know about any of the candidates is whatever story the media decides to tell for a few columns over the byline.
Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing.
It would help to have a round table where these candidates actually talked to each other about issues, but I'm not sure if any of those running could have a real conversation.
"Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing." -- Jamie
Yup. Sundays are way better without watching the talking heads. You'd get a way better discussion over beers at a bar watching a game.
Brian: re the Lieberman-Kyl Iran resolution -- yup again. That thing sucked mightily. If Hillary does go down, that's going to have been the last straw for many.
Oh and for those of you have accused me of being a limo liberal tonight I will fit the bill, I'm going to a 1000 dollar a plate charity gala! No limo though, we're taking a cab!
Good luck to all those who think "the Surge" is working, and the war is over.
A WW One veteran I was friends with almost 30 years ago (he was 57 when I was born) had a name for you: DAMPHOOLS.
All that Moqtade al-Sadr has to do is call an assembly, wag his finger, and all hell will be unleashed , again, and again,. and again.
And Congress is poised to give Bush more millions for this fiasco...and Hillary will smile, say GUNG HO, and give a double thumbs up. Let's see what Obama says about it...if anyone even asks him!
Even Frank Rich and Bb Schieffer are focussing on "the 'Surge' is working."
Let's see how this unfolds...another calendar year approaches, and it's about time for more rhetoric ..."we need to see where we are in June..." , then, "September is the critical month...".
Unless MSM kills ALL the war coverage , like Bush covers up the US military dead's caskets.
But, we need to focus on a fence, instead...oh, I understand, alright.
Jamie,
"Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing."
Kinda like pro wrestling. That said, I thought Huckabee did pretty well on ThisWeek. Stephanopolus threw him some zingers (though none predicated on his questionable gubernatorial record), and he didn't really seriously dodge any of the question. Huckabee is banking on his charm and affability to save his bacon. Stephanopolus saved his trump card for last when he asked about Dick Morris working for his campaign. Instant meltdown.
I like Schieffer on Face the Nation, but for the most part the Sunday shows are more for their entertainment value than substance.
Dex,
Webb said on MTP that the results that are being attributed to the surge were well in place before the surge and would have been the same had there been no surge.
we have a smaller KitchenAid food processor. It is an older one that we bought at an estate sale had all the tools with it. We also have a larger one but I don't remember which brand. Both are excellent.
All our guys are doing is sending the boxers to separate corners. The instant someone decides to have another go, or that make shift government Bush created falls or decides anything Iran wants is just hunky dory, it will all blow up again.
Bush is just trying to drag it out so he can throw the bomb he created into someone else's lap.
My friend majorie's boss always buys a table, I've been going with her for years, for the Volunteers of America, at The Four Seasons. It's a pretty good party actually, and the one time a year I get to show off my Cha Cha Cha! :)
If your gauge for success regarding the surge is a lower death count, then yes it is a success. But as explained to me the purpose of the success was to give the Iraqi moving room to further the political process then it has been a dismal failure.
Dog: "hearing "you don't have a choice in the next election either" was astonishingly tonedeaf."
But dog, who is it that kept that mantra up? The media, that's who. Almost every top tier candidate "says" they are going to win at one time or another. They have to appear confident.
RE: food processors....I really hated my big processor, so got a fairly small Cuisinart and absolutely love it. Easy to use and to clean.
(snark alert!) The big Obama endorsement as portrayed by Gordon True Blue. Can I have a drumroll please....is Des Moines Mayor, Frank Cownie. Big deal .
Have a wonderful time Brian and let us know about the festivities when you return.
There was a caller on S-Span this morning who actually rattled off the whole HIllary is a Lesbian, Obama is a Muslim, Mormonism is a cult mantra. It's scary just knowing that people like that exist much less vote.
There was a caller on S-Span this morning who actually rattled off the whole HIllary is a Lesbian, Obama is a Muslim, Mormonism is a cult mantra. It's scary just knowing that people like that exist much less vote.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 6:05 PM
everybody's calling rove batshit crazy but that's exactly to whom he is speaking when he says the democrats pushed bush into war......he's laying out the new gop mass e-mail program.........the 30% will add it to their list of lies.
Harborwoman: if you are lurking: have 2 sweet potatoes baking along with the salmon; they are going into my first batch of your black bean chili. Will make it up tonight or tomorrow morning.
Patsi: re MSM role in portraying Hillary as "inevitable" -- yes, you do have a point there. One can detect also Republican bloggers salivating at her being the candidate, on the chance she's more vulnerable.
BUT I kind of thought the "inevitable" buzz was coming from her own camp, at least her fundraisers and past supporters. And it has been very offputting.
Do not dislike the woman. I think she's formidably talented and an excellent Senator/could be a good statesman type too.
But her election means another four years, at least, of the vitriol we all suffered through during her husband's administration. Plus it would be too dynastic for me. Running the first lady does not say much for one's party having any viability, at least IMHO.
I wish she had waited another term, at least. We all need a change.
dog, I've felt that the media has spun the dynasty thing also.
I do agree that the vitriol will be thick....but I think it will be no matter who we run. This Rove crowd is out of control...and, as the great Frank Zappa said, "It's not getting any smarter out there."
whether they spin it or not, that would be the turn of things.
PS: loved the story of your grandbaby getting all her gifts already. Hope you will enjoy shopping for the next bunch -- and seeing the reaction -- as much.
The one major plus I can see for Hillary is her record of collegiality within the Senate. There is a good chance of major change within that body giving the Democrats dominance. The Republicans left can either be a drag on the legislation with that whole bag of tricks allowed in the Senate, or they can be cooperative with easy passage of severely needed changes.
It might not earn any applause from the left most side of the party, but it could bode well for a lot of good changes fast that she has well established relationships with Republican senators.
Not to pick on anyone, but I am tired of hearing that electing Hillary will subject us to years of vitriol. I
have to agree with Patsi on this one. Look what the Republicans did to Kerry, McCain (one of their own), etc. I think the only way it will ever be any different is if Democrats elect someone who backs down easily and goes along with what the Republicans want. Even then, the knives will always be sharpened and at the ready.
Even though I have not decided who I will support yet, I am trying not to be distracted by the media sideshow. I personally won't hold any candidate responsible for the snark of the media. I do, however, reserve the right to provide my own snark.
Been lurking occasionally today, and just read your post about the sweet potatoes. Let me know how you like the chili. And let me know if you tweak the recipe, and if you like your tweaked version any better.... I want dnd to let me know that, too! He sounds like an 'expert' with the different chilies/peppers!
Politically, I remain in Edwards' camp. Have neither heard nor seen anything that changes my mind. To the contrary, I share Jamie's suspicion that Obama's just not quite ready. And Hillary just leaves this feeling of 'unease' in my gut that I simply can't shake...it's a lack of trust that she says what she means and means what she says.
Mine are Obama, Edwards (very close, millimeters apart), Richardson, Biden.
On the GOP side; hoping for Huckabee or McCain. Because Giuliani is sheer ruin. I do not have a problem with Romney (altho am voting Dem), but if others say he's plastic, so be it.
I dont trust any of the democrats to be able to fight the swift-boat syndrome out of the gop slime machine like Hillary can. The fact that she can and will snap it to those bastards means a lot from my view......
and it's more than mere willingness to fight......one picture in a tank and zip Dukakis.....one scream and zip Howard Dean.......one "first I was against it and then I was for it" and Kerry "doesnt prevail" etc etc etc......
I won't be on much longer. My neighbor is coming over to help me figure out how to run my generator (and to finish hooking it up), in case this wind we're having takes our power out. It's already 'blinked' twice, so...
I just got back from a walk around part of my precinct and yes it is 17 degrees with a hearty wind. I nearly fell several times since no one except my block has cleaned their walks. Anyway, the way it shapes up is I saw 2 Hillary yard signs, 2 Obama yard signs, and 2 Mitt yard signs. I think there must be quite a quandry for some because traditionally the yard signs don't go out until after Christmas.
For all you Edwards supporters out there I can tell you he is pretty strong in the rural areas although they trend more Republican as a whole. There are still a lot of Dem county chairs and central committee members from the rural areas who have stuck with him all along. The rural precincts get more delegates than the urban ones. This causes the candidates to have to pay attention to the rural areas and their issues and not spend all their time in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, etc. Edwards figured that out the last time and it almost worked for him.
The conclusion is CLEAR: Bill Clinton DID oppose the Iraq War from the beginning and said so publicly at the time.
The media cannot let go of their own revisionist history about what the Congressional Resolution was a vote for because that spin helps to shift more of the blame for an unnecessary and spectacularly counterproductive war to someone OTHER than the media itself as it cheerleaded for it, avoided asking the pertinent questions about it and abdicated their responsibility to challenge it when it really mattered.
the above is the final paragraph from a good comment about Bill Clinton's statement about being against the war in Iraq from the beginning......complete with documentation and links.
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Posted by: tiptoe
| December 1, 2007 3:10 AM
A GOOD Idea!
"ICE Campaign - 'In Case of Emergency'
We all carry our mobile phones with names & numbers stored in its memory but nobody, other than ourselves, knows which of these numbers belong to our closest family or friends.
If we were to be involved in an accident or were taken ill, the people attending us would have our mobile phone but wouldn't know who to call. Yes, there are hundreds of numbers stored but which one is the contact person in case of an emergency? Hence this 'ICE' (In Case of Emergency) Campaign.The concept of 'ICE' is catching on quickly. It is a method of contact during emergency situations. As cell phones are carried by the majority of the population, all you need to do is store the number of a contact person or persons who should be contacted during emergency under the name 'ICE' ( In Case Of Emergency).
The idea was thought up by a paramedic who found that when he went to the scenes of accidents, there were always mobile phones with patients, but they didn't know which number to call. He therefore thought that it would be a good idea if there was a nationally recognized name for this purpose. In an emergency situation, Emergency Service personnel and hospital Staff would be able to quickly contact the right person by simply dialing the number you have stored as 'ICE.'
For more than one contact name simply enter ICE1, ICE2 and ICE3 etc. A great idea that will make a difference!
Let's spread the concept of ICE by storing an ICE number in our Mobile phones today!
Please forward this. It won't take too many 'forwards' before everybody will know about this. It really could save your life, or put a loved one's mind at rest. ICE will speak for you when you are not able to."
I got this as part of a group e-mail from work. I forwarded this onto a bunch of folks and will do it myself.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 1, 2007 3:11 AM
Now all the candidates are going to want their own hostage crisis. Look at all the attention Hillary got for this. NH local TV was wall to wall coverage, plus the national networks & cable were all there. Good exposure for her, everyone else has to make a pathetic statement of prayers, support....
It may have been good news for Rudy because it distracts people from his sordid affairs.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| December 1, 2007 4:51 AM
CLEARWATER, Fla. (Nov. 30) - Evel Knievel, the red-white-and-blue-spangled motorcycle daredevil whose jumps over crazy obstacles including Greyhound buses, live sharks and Idaho's Snake River Canyon made him an international icon in the 1970s, died Friday. He was 69.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| December 1, 2007 4:54 AM
yeah whose is ooking presidential and who is looking like a cheap Tammaney Hall operative
"McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, pointed to Kerik's performance in Iraq, along with complaints about how Giuliani treated first-responders after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, as reasons why the former mayor's presidential campaign should deserve greater scrutiny from voters.
"I don't know Mr. Kerik. I do know that I went to Baghdad shortly after the initial victory and met in Baghdad with (Ambassador Paul) Bremer and (Lt. Gen. Ricardo) Sanchez. And Kerik was there. Kerik was supposed to be there to help train the police force. He stayed two months and one day left, just up and left," McCain told reporters traveling on his campaign bus."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gXdnhrTEdtdGReIpM6EAPkxVlnswD8SQC0R82
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 6:39 AM
fux news had plant bill sammons to talk about tipping and who is more corrupt and he managed to lie with every sentence he spoke
he never mentioned that scruggs is Trent Lott's brother in law....
he is scum ...if there were any real journalistis left they would shun him for the damamge he has done to their credibility
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 7:29 AM
Jamie and Julia
Thanks for sending the link to CC's pic last night!. :)
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| December 1, 2007 7:38 AM
It's international aids awareness day and Shrub is spending 350 million on aids but 200 million is spent on abstinence education.....which does not work
heck of a job shrubie
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 7:42 AM
How does one go about "teaching" abstinence? Is it a long course? Will there be tests?
Posted by: sturgeone | December 1, 2007 7:58 AM
there will be tests...but you may not know you are participating
"By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY
The federal government's "no sex without marriage" message isn't just for kids anymore.
Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money that will be available to the states under revised federal grant guidelines for 2007.
The government says the change is a clarification. But critics say it's a clear signal of a more directed policy targeting the sexual behavior of adults.
"They've stepped over the line of common sense," said James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit that supports sex education. "To be preaching abstinence when 90% of people are having sex is in essence to lose touch with reality. It's an ideological campaign. It has nothing to do with public health."
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 8:03 AM
Pat Buchanan is up in Concord New Hampshire on a stage getting ready to speak to his supporters. Suddenly a group breaks into a chant, disrupting the proceedings.
They shout, "He's a racist! He's a racist."
And those were his supporters
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 8:13 AM
I gotta agree w/Craig that Hillary looked presidential out in front of her house. I disagree that it's an indelible image. And the timing, Friday afternoon, couldn't be worse news-wise. It's difficult to imagine how the Clinton campaign can milk much more out of this without looking exploitative or as cheezy as Rudy explaining that he wasn't trying to hide public funding of his extra-marital affair.
ps. Craig, typo at the top: (clips my Mad Mustard)
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 8:19 AM
Lee -- I knew you weren't really taking a shot at my pal Tanya. Yeah, she's pretty honest about her wild times.
Dex and Brian were talking about Christmas gifts....I'm pretty much screwed now because I got in the spirit over Thanksgiving and let my granddaughter Maria open all her presents! Back to ToysRUs....or somewhere.
Posted by: Patsi | December 1, 2007 8:20 AM
Since I grew up in an era when "Good Girls Don't Do That Until They Are Married!!" managed to keep most females in squeeky clean (well almost squeeky) until at least their senior year in high school with a lot of weddings the day after graduation - 200 million for abstinance always sounds a little silly.
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 9:37 AM
Above comment should be read while playing Meatloaf
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 9:39 AM
"....200 million for abstinance always sounds a little silly." Jamie
Shrubco instutionalizes their most ridiculous politicies
Institute of Medicine: Abstinence Education Spending Requirement Hinders International Response to HIV/AIDS
A highly anticipated review of the first three years of the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) unequivocally recommends greater flexibility in the global fight against HIV/AIDS, including doing away with minimum budget allocations for abstinence-until-marriage education currently
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/10/2/gpr100220.html
and yet as we mark another International Aids Awareness Day abstinence remains the policy getting a required leve of spending.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 9:43 AM
I would prefer that the gov't stay the hell out of any kind of sex ed, but I'm not so unaware as to think that if human sexuality weren't taught in schools (at least on this side of the border) that some kids just wouldn't learn about it. My daughters, who are now young adults, learned about human sexuality from the second grade (yes, that dreaded phrase "age appropriate") but it started with the actual anatomy (the reproductive system along with the digestive system, etc.) and then (i'm thinking back here now, so, I might be a tad foggy) by 6th grade, and that would be around the age of 12, they were taught about various forms of birth control, the effectiveness, etc. In our individual case, we (hubby and I) have always just answered the questions and initiated conversations from the beginning. My older daughter is now in a healthy, loving relationship with a guy I actually LIKE (oh man.. coulda been one of those mohawkers with a ring in his lip, but PRAISE God, it wasnt!) and she's responsible and smart.
This is a systemic problem with the Goopers. It used to be that Republicans just sorta ignored sex ed. I don't agree, but at least it left it up to individuals and families. But since the marriage of the GOP and the JIM (Jesus is Mighty) much of what this administration has done is actually dangerous. To hire JIMers only to important portfolios like human sexuality, NASA, Environment, Education (yes, the world was created 5,000 years ago and man roamed the earth with dinosaurs), is leaving a legacy of stupidity to their children and grandchildren.
And that's the view from north of the border. It's great to read all your posts again (haha.. the biggest difference between a dem and a gooper is the sense of humour!) I'll have to do some wandering through the pages here.
Was good to see Craig on Hardball too. (well, on the youtube post anyway.. i can't stand an hour with Tweety.)
Posted by: tylenol
| December 1, 2007 10:04 AM
oh damn.. i forgot to say... Brian? would you be willing to email me when you're thinking of opening the chatroom? dono_nobis@yahoo.ca ...thank you
Posted by: tylenol
| December 1, 2007 10:10 AM
Morning all.
Watched a little of HIllary's presser live, and she did look cool-headed and resolute.
She wins the "Not Mark Dayton in a Crisis" Award this week.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 1, 2007 10:30 AM
Morning peeps.
Posted by: Brian In NYC | December 1, 2007 10:36 AM
Tylenol,
Noticed the dono nobis in your email. Are you reflecting your profession or were you part of the "peace globe" project?
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 10:44 AM
KgC,
don't know or remember if this has been posted before and if so pls forgive. This is the dark side of Mike Huckabee.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 10:54 AM
Checking in before I lose electricity. So far the Heartland Forum is going ahead as planned with the rally and march canceled. I doubt I will be going since the only traffic past my house has been a lone snow plow. Here is the link for the page where you will find the link for the web cast:: http://www.movementvisionlab.org/blog/the-heartland-presidential-forum-is-on
Everything is covered with ice, numerous power outages, the airport is closed, and law enforcement is asking everyone to stay home. They are predicting rain by 3:00 with 40 degrees later tonight. Very weird.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 11:29 AM
oops forgot to mention the forum is supposed to be broadcast live on C-Span too.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 11:31 AM
Zoey....
stay warm and take care..... snow is fine..... but ice sucks!
loved Charlie the Unicorn....
Craig..... great appearance on HB.....
Tweety was his usual self..... a fool.....
Tylenol...... great to see you again.....
are you crossing the border into this country to do your Xmas shopping like so many of your compatriots?..... there's some good deals down here.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | December 1, 2007 11:37 AM
Zoey: stay safe and warm. Is that usual weather in Iowa?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 1, 2007 12:00 PM
Zooey
Thanks for the info. Stay warm and safe. You have it rough out there.
Here we might get three inches tonight and a wind and rain storm tomorrow ... barely a good excuse for a fire.
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 12:08 PM
Wesley Clark coming up on C-SPAN 2 in about three minutes with his Memoirs.
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 12:10 PM
Thanks Jamie, I was invited to participate in the virtual booksigning but had to be gone that night.
Oddly enough, when he was here recently to stump for Hillary, I had several opportunities to spend some time with him. I left my book in my car each time and never got it signed. Somehow the thought to do it got lost in the shuffle of actually talking to the man.
Weather update: we now have .40 inches of ice and it is continuing. No, this is not normal but happening more often the last few years. We usually get snow.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 12:18 PM
RE the Rudy expenses debacle -- which you might have discussed and I missed -- do you think this will be fatal to him?
It should be; no Democrat would still be in the race at this point. Further, it says dishonesty with using public funds and a disturbing sense of entitlement.
How can people overlook that, and isn't it troubling since 70% of the country wants a new direction and he's early warning that his administration would be Abramoff on steroids?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 1, 2007 12:24 PM
Thanks Doots
I think Hucksterbee is the creepiest of all the candidates.
on the Ghoul
Tweety's comments on it included a slam at the Clintons. MSGOP's reporting (sic) had failed to mention the use of public funds to cart his mistress around. And despite Liar Buchanan's efforts to the contrary Rudee was not separated at the time
and no one interviewing Buchanan corrected any of the lies he told in support of the Plunger.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 12:35 PM
and Zooey thanks for the update from frozen Iowa
sounds event wil be a test for the true believers.
Hope you are warm and comfy cozy.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 12:44 PM
Thanks KGC, I am making a large pot of chili. I have hot dogs, saurkraut, and lots of beer.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 12:50 PM
zoey,
It sounds like you have the perfect emergency preparedness kit: chili, hot dogs, saurkraut and lots of beer.
Stay warm!
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 1:18 PM
zoey,
And with that on the menu, you can expect a personal visit from Bill Richardson ;-)
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 1:21 PM
http://www.wcfcourier.com/blogs/eby/index.php?s=campaign+trail+food
which restaurants the campaigns are recommending in Iowa
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 2:45 PM
top one hundred things to eat in Iowa
http://theeatclub.org/guide/index.php?title=Top_100_things_to_eat_in_Iowa_before_you_die
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 3:04 PM
after the paper published their list, people added another 136 places...
no matter where you get stranded in Iowa there are good eats.
http://blogs.dmregister.com/?p=1959&cp=all#comments
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 3:21 PM
dono nobis I chose just cos I needed an "internet email" that didnt have my real name in it.. and yes, because of my present and future vocation.
I'm not crossing the border..period.. Border guards are not my favourite people. What a-holes! Besides, prices are dropping here like magic! Might as well shop here without the 3 hour waits at the border. Honestly.. I'm a 50 year old blonde non-descript woman who always..ALWAYS ends up on the wrong side of the border inspection..
Posted by: tylenol
| December 1, 2007 3:48 PM
WOW, Kgc, i so enjoyed Iowa Insider blog you linked, that i was moved to post my rave review of "Famous Dave's" in Cedar Rapids
Posted by: Craig Crawford | December 1, 2007 3:50 PM
Oh Craig, I guess it is to each his own. Having lived in Owensboro, KY (self-proclaimed BBQ capital of the World) and Memphis, TN (home of the Memphis in May BBQ cooking championship), I can't eat the smoked meat they pass off as BBQ here. It is difficult to even find real baby back ribs at the grocery store. I think they grow the hogs too meaty. At least we don't have the controversy over whether to parboil or not , like they do in Owensboro. I am glad at least that you are finding food to your liking when out on the trail.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 4:29 PM
KGC,
Not exactly your list of heart healthy fare ;-) Though it's out of season, the best food I've had by far in Iowa is the sweet corn from northeast Iowa. And maybe outside of Olathe, CO, it's the best sweet corn in the world.
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 4:35 PM
Oh, Zoey, you shouldn't have gone there... BBQ is a mighty touchy subject with the Crawfordlisters. My preference is for KC style, but I'm sure we'll hear from the Carolina and Texas contingents.
ps. I think they tend to cut the ribs St. Louis style in Iowa, so it's not surprising you don't find baby back ribs.
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 4:42 PM
so is this an admission that the Global War on Terror is a sham or is it just another screwed up idea from the Bush admin? I know there are Rethugs out there that just hate this.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22046131/
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 4:45 PM
dnd, you are right. A lot of our BBQ is St. Louis style. I like KC BBQ. So what of the parboil controversy? Do you listers parboil or not?
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 4:53 PM
Zoey,
Parboil may make the cooking process faster, but it robs flavor. One shouldn't be in a hurry for good BBQ.
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 4:56 PM
dnd, I agree and never parboil.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 5:00 PM
where I live it is considered that most in the country bbq the wrong animal.
Beef Ribs and brisket.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 5:05 PM
"so is this an admission that the Global War on Terror is a sham"
Senor Dooty, This is another example of this administration's complete incompetence. The British have demonstrated over and over that if you want to fight terrorism, you do it with investigation and good police work. So Bush wants to cut the funds that protect us at home so that he can race half way around the world to abuse people who never did a darn thing to him while making billions for his oil buddies.
Posted by: Jamie | December 1, 2007 5:14 PM
Oh and if you are in Mexican joint and you see Babacoa on the menu DON'T I repeat DO NOT order it unless you like cow face or brains. Gross but just because it sounds like bbq don't make it so. Just saying...
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 5:15 PM
Jamie & Doots,
I guess you guys agree with Chuck Hagel
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/hagel_bush_white_house_arrogan.html
Richardson/Hagel '08
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 5:28 PM
Zoey,
Since you're relatively new here, let me state for the record that while Doots may have a somewhat limited repertoire in BBQ, the guy knows how to take a photograph:
http://www.texaschurchproj.com/
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 5:33 PM
Zoey -- you mentioned "Memphis, TN (home of the Memphis in May BBQ cooking championship)," -- An aside: I was invited to be a judge at that event one year back when my kids were younger. It started raining heavily that morning and when I tried to take the kids under the judges tent with me (they were high school and junior high age) I was told they'd have to go back to my car because they didn't have room for anyone but the judges under the tent. (My car was parked many blocks away.)
I said, "WTF?" and then we all, my kids and me, walked through the rain, found the car and went to Graceland. Memphis' bbq can kiss my butt. :)
Posted by: Patsi | December 1, 2007 5:45 PM
the gops will say we're cutting homeland security cause we're fighting them over there so we dont have to fight them here.......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 1, 2007 6:22 PM
Hooray, that must mean the illegal immigration problem has been solved
Posted by: ran | December 1, 2007 6:25 PM
It's way too early, but I have been challenged by a friend to pick the Democrat VP candidate, assuming Clinton is the pres.cand.
I told him nobody can do that, because it's frequently a surprise , hasty decision.
I told him all I can do is rule out a few.
John Edwards, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson will not be asked...Edwards has already done that gig, Biden will likely be Sec'y of Defense, and Bill Richardson Sec'y of State.
Hillary is buddy-buddy with Biden on Iraq.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 1, 2007 6:29 PM
BBQ. Parboiling or not. I feel so pedestrian for just planning to grill a steak tonight.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 1, 2007 6:41 PM
Most of the posts in those linked stories are from last summer, so I didn't see your review, Craig, but I had fantastic Famous Dave's ribs in Minneapolis a few years ago and have been to the Toledo Famous Dave's joint a few times this year already.
It's a great place for hungry people and for kids, too...in Toledo they serve huge amounts of food ON UPTURNED GARBAGE CAN LIDS.
I prefer the saucy ribs but some prefer the brisket. It's a fun place and a half dozen people can stuff themselves with ribs and signature draft root beer for a C-Note.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 1, 2007 6:43 PM
dog: I had my first grilled steak of the year a couple days ago...NY strips here, but if I had mah druthers, gimmee a rare Porterhouse, extra thick cut, and a green salad and garlic mashed taters.
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Everybody around here is going crazy ... if Mizzou loses maybe Ohio State can make it to the BCS Championship game...we'll see...me being a Michigan fan, I could not care less.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 1, 2007 6:49 PM
Dex: when I think of you and steaks, I remember your 'Nam story about the mean sergeant's special sauce (your donated steaks story).
Is it cold as can be in Ohio?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 1, 2007 6:55 PM
I looked at some of the blogs linked to the Iowa insider
and I found this..
"HUGE Obama Endorsement May Be Announced Tomorrow (Sunday, 12/2)
Iowa True Blue By admin on 12/1/2007 1:44 PM
Very exciting! Stay tuned!"
http://www.iowatrueblue.com/
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 6:55 PM
Evan Bayh, Strickland -Gov of Ohio, and Wes Clark have all got pretty good mentions as possible VPs. Previously I thought being VP wasn't that great of an office since there are other offices I believe have more power and influence. However, I have begun to think it wouldn't be such a bad jumping off place for someone who has aspirations of becoming president one day. It will probably be no one we have heard about yet although, Edwards being chosen last time kind of broke the mold.
Nice art Doots. Dog - steak sounds great. Patsi, I wasn't all that interested in MIM BBQ contest. I preferred the MIM Beale Street Music Festival. The Al Green clip reminded me of seeing him and Rufus Thomas at Tom Lee Park on the banks of the Mississipi. I spent many a weekend on Beale.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 6:56 PM
dog,
"BBQ. Parboiling or not. I feel so pedestrian for just planning to grill a steak tonight."
Why? Grilling is great. BBQ is low and slow. And I have to agree with Dex, no cut better than a porterhouse.
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 7:04 PM
dog...very cold...maybe 20 F. Just now getting our first sticking snow...roads just now becoming slick and dangerous.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TYLENOL:
Your email addy you posted is flawed. It has been discontinued or disabled. I sent you a welcome back email and it was sent back immediately 2 times.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 1, 2007 7:10 PM
KGC, Gordon (Iowa True Blue) is solidly behind Obama. He is sometimes on a local political show on Sunday mornings. He was on the show (called the Insiders) the day he announced his support of Obama. Previous to that he touted it as a big Obama endorsement. Not so much, as far as I am concerned. Gordon is a former State Chair but I don't think anyone will support Obama just because of Gordon's support.
On-the-other hand Gordon is in a position to know about endorsements long before they are announced in the press. I'll let you know if I hear anything about this. I hope this doesn't mean Gordon will be on the Insiders tomorrow. I much prefer Jerry Crawford to any of the other Dems. He is a Hillary supporter but extremely fair in his comments. It is my absolute favorite political show with 1 Dem, 1 Rep, and a moderator. They discuss current political issues and when Jerry and Mahaffey, the Repub are on they are so professional. It is a real joy to hear about issues from people who know what they are talking about and do not shout at and over each other.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 7:11 PM
Dex you're such an old sweetie
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 1, 2007 7:12 PM
Imus Returns story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071201/ap_on_re_us/imus_returns
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 7:16 PM
"He was on the show (called the Insiders) the day he announced his support of Obama. Previous to that he touted it as a big Obama endorsement. " zooey
I am a big fan of shameless self promotion Can't wait to see who it is this time around,,,perhaps his Mom.
I look forward to your report.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 1, 2007 7:23 PM
dnd,
thanks for the plug about the project also dnd I have always thought that the bush white house was filled with arrogant sobs
zoey,
glad you liked the photos
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 7:37 PM
Doots,
Do you know what kind of guitar Joe Ely is playing these days?
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 7:39 PM
dnd,
I have not seen Joe Ely lately. Seems like it was an acoustic but can't say as to the brand. Why?
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 7:55 PM
Doots,
Just curious. Looks like a semi-hollow body, but not like I've see before.
Posted by: dnd | December 1, 2007 8:04 PM
Doots, I have bookmarked the link to the photos, they really are good. They brought back a memory I had about the photography contest at the state fair one year. The state fair photography contest is a really big deal and the quality of the photos is superb. Every year they have a theme and my favorite was when they selected the theme of old barns. The barns are disappearing as quickly as the family farms are disappearing. It was nice to see that at least that part of our heritage will be preserved through photos. Some of them, like the churches, are so fascinating to look at.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 8:07 PM
"Dex you're such an old sweetie."
Sorry, Brian, I ain't makin' no brownies 2nite!
Dinner was a PBJ sandwich, tomato rice soup, cottage cheese, and sweet apple cider and black tea.
Mrs. Dexter got called in to work, ruining our dinner plans at a restaurant, and I just grabbed anything handy.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 1, 2007 8:16 PM
it might be a Collins. Both of them live in Austin, TX. I am sure there is at least a pickup in it, maybe more than one. Bill Collins worked for my friend Michael Stevens as a repairman before he started building guitars. Back then Michael lived over in East Austin in a place we all called "Fort Guitar" due to the large fence and security system.
http://www.stevensguitars.com/ Scroll down and see Jr Brown playing the guit-steel and singing 409 with the Beach Boys.
I love Joe's singing and stage show.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 8:28 PM
this is just too weird for me. KgC you might want to see this.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/huckabee-phone-call-with-god/
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 1, 2007 8:54 PM
The Las Vegas Culinary Union may be about to endorse Obama. Could that be the big announcement Iowa True Blue was talking about or maybe the Illinois AFSCME that endorsed Obama today?
Quite the controversy with the culinary people. "So Culinary officials were as shocked as local political scribes when they read a report in the Washington Post last week, on the eve of the Democratic debate, that pinpointed the unveiling date of the union’s coveted presidential endorsement. Apparently, it’s Dec. 2."
http://blogs.lasvegassun.com/politics/2007/11/21/culinary-hmm-thats-news-to-us/
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 9:03 PM
Dooty, I remember seeing this Huckabee video at the time and it scared me then and it scares me even more now.
Posted by: zoey
| December 1, 2007 9:15 PM
Well SON of a gun!! I just checked that email addy and learned that they DISCONTINUED it due to low use. SO i've set up a new one: adeste_fidalis@yahoo.ca. and thanks Dex.. you really ARE a sweetie!
Posted by: tylenol
| December 1, 2007 10:13 PM
ty get yourself a gmail account, so much better than yahoo mail, and a lot faster too!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 1, 2007 10:17 PM
Are you kidding? I've already got a hotmail account, two yahoo accounts and a mcgill account and I can't keep them straight. lol
Posted by: tylenol
| December 1, 2007 10:18 PM
You can monitor them all from your one gmail account like I do with all my email accounts.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 1, 2007 10:26 PM
Balmy here tonight. Warmer outside than in. I feel for you ice and snow storm folks. Been there too often and done that.
Temp: 66F Dewpoint: 62
This is the payback for the hellish summers.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 1, 2007 10:54 PM
Some engineer needs to develop a microwave oven setting "just hot enough"
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 1, 2007 11:46 PM
tiptoe said this, "This is the payback for the hellish summers."
Sr Horsedooty said, "Hell, tiptoe last summer was not even hot by comparative standards."
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 2, 2007 12:14 AM
More on Obama: Frank Rich , NYTimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/02rich.html?hp
Posted by: Dexter
| December 2, 2007 12:24 AM
Well, I guess we know who Frank Rich is for! I had not heard that peggy noonan had written that many repuggs have developed a fondness for Obama.
I gotta think about that one.
I agree with Frank that those people want to run against HRC,
Gee...65 repugg references to HRC to none for Obama...or the rest of the field...they must have countless volleys stored up to chuck at Hillary.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 2, 2007 1:41 AM
is anyone else interested in entering out weekly election poll? there is a little more information on Craig's blogroll under Poll and if you have any other questions you can e-mail to thepollman at isleofran dot org.
it won't likely take 5 minutes of your time once a week and could provide us with some interesting topics of discussion.
any lurkers or new folks can join up as well, I am only registering voters to keep people from voting more than once or having supporters of a candidate load in on their pick.
a note that should be on topic, I am prediciting that something is going to happen between 3 and 9 months that's going to throw the election in turmoil
zoey: sorry I didn't get to your dot today, I'd go stand in the corner as punishment but I'm aready sitting there. tomorrow for sure though
Posted by: ran | December 2, 2007 1:47 AM
Brian:
Just DON'T do what my work-buddy Bruce did, years ago when he got his first microwave.
First thing Bruce used it for was to warm up some canned beans.
He told me he dumped the beans into a microwave-safe bowl .
That was all he figured he needed as far as written instructions went.
He said he figured ten minutes on high ought to get those beans hot.
He set the timer for ten minutes on high and went in to watch the news for ten minutes.
It was a good, 1000 watt appliance, and he had beans that had exploded ...all over mostly the top of the cooking area.
Baked on, hard as cement, an hour to clean up.
Then he went to the coffee table for his reading glasses.Yes, then.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 2, 2007 1:50 AM
heat water in a microwave bowl, really hot(BE CAREFUL) the steam will loosen any stuff from the microwave door, walls and vent, turns an hour job into a 2 minute job
Posted by: ran | December 2, 2007 3:04 AM
God I hate waking up bright-eyed at 2:30 A.M.!
However let me take this opportunity to post my new favorite website. I think a lot of you Listers would ike this one....For every correct vocabularly word you get, six grains of rice are donated to fight world hunger. (Hopefully this is for real.)
It's a fun way to try to fight off "awake-ness".
http://www.freerice.com/
Posted by: Patsi | December 2, 2007 4:18 AM
Doots
Yikes...and when he was on nerfball Tweety asked something about this and the Huckster said he doesn't think he is God but he does believe God speaks to him and that he can speak for God.
If he wasn't creepy enough, he is a former (and possiby) current client of Prick Morris
http://www.politico.com/ and I think the Dick Morris pic is from the 1980's --he is a big old tub of lard now.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 8:14 AM
Patsi,
"Free Rice" is for real. I blogged about it a while back and need to get a permanent button up. You can get addicted to it if you love words. My record so far: Level 47 and 1000 grains of rice.
http://www.freerice.com/index.php
You can keep going after you miss a word, but it takes you a long time to build back to your high level.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 8:17 AM
Bill O'Reilly's advice for young people:
(Tom Tomorrow)
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0748,tomorrow,78489,9.html
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 8:34 AM
The latest Iowa Democratic Poll
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 8:40 AM
Dex, ran,
Be careful about microwaving water. I could get superheated and not boil. Best idea is to put a wooden chopstick or something the bubbles will form on.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HKC37PoELbo
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 9:09 AM
Webb is so good. Since he isn't running for Prez, can we get him for VP so we can have him in 8 years?
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 9:14 AM
"The Show" with ZeFrank:
http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:20 AM
morning peeps,
Well we got our first snow last night, not very much, but nice to wake up and see snow on the ground.
Posted by: Brian In NYC | December 2, 2007 9:35 AM
hmmm.....we had some snow, let's see....yep, must have been about 10 yrs ago, now........at least channel 5 SAID it was snow.......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:37 AM
Jamie,
I hate to be nit-picky on a Sunday morning, but the RPC average isn't a valid measure.
1. since the sample sizes vary, you can't take take the average of the averages.
2. since the sample sizes vary, so do the error bounds.
3. since the error bounds aren't given taking the averages is meaningless.
4. the number of significant digits is incorrect.
There is a way to get a correct average, but apparently the folks are RCP are not aware of it.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 9:40 AM
Zooey
It looks like True Blue Gordon took down his post about an Obama endorsement.....wonder what that means...?
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 9:44 AM
dnd said'
"hate to be nit-picky on a Sunday morning"
Brian said;
"why should sunday be any different than any other day?"
:)
Posted by: Brian In NYC | December 2, 2007 9:47 AM
How the Main Stream News appears to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAwVIZDAUF0
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:51 AM
Morning Crawdads. No rain yet which means -- another few hours dedicated to working with brown leaves. House backs up to parkland, and this is the only downside.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 10:02 AM
put down that ramos fizz or whatever else you might be drinking...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0gzmBxsFMg&eurl=http://www.atrios.blogspot.com/
via atrios
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 10:03 AM
dnd
I don't have nits, but you can do my grooming anyway. It's a nice pleasantry among friends. I don't know how they come by their average, but they do show the individual polls used in that average, so pick the one you like.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 10:07 AM
Jamie,
The sum the results of the five individual polls and divide by 5. They really need to put the accuracy of each poll in their results.
But while I'm nit picking, MoDo quotes Andrew Sullivan in her column saying about Obama "In one simple image, America’s soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm.” My guess is that he meant "exponentially", the inverse function of the logarithm. Logarithms flatten out as their argument increases.
BTW, great MoDo column on Obama today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/02dowd.html?ref=opinion
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 10:21 AM
How can Blanquita even talk with those lips? Doesn't she have a clue how ugly they are? Someone should inform her that aging gracefully does not include clown makeup, bleached platinum hair and dragon lady claws.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 10:41 AM
here is a perfect example of the Peter Principle in action.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bogus_FEMA_reporters_promoted_despite_role_1130.html
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 2, 2007 10:47 AM
dnd
It is a great MoDo column and she is asking the right questions. First I truly despise the constant commentary on the Obama/Mama horse race that totally excludes any of the other candidates who might be better Presidents.
As to prodigies living up to potential, usually if they don't the potential wasn't there in the first place.
If Obama becomes the nominee, I will vote for him, but it will be against my better judgement. The Presidency is no place to get your "seasoning".
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 10:48 AM
"here is a perfect example of the Peter Principle in action."
They only got promoted. You really have to screw up badly to get a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 11:10 AM
Jamie,
1. I concur. I (obviously) don't like that the MSM treats it as an Obama/Hillary race.
2. I find it interesting that the two national front runners strategy is: "if you don't vote for me, the terrorists win."
3. I concur. Webb is great. I don't think he wants to be veep, but he'd make a great president.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 11:39 AM
"It looks like True Blue Gordon took down his post about an Obama endorsement.....wonder what that means...?"
KGC - Mom changed her mind, someone told Gordon Oprah already announced her endorsement, or most likely it was the culinary union in Nevada, who seems to be having some organizational problems.
Ran - no rush on my dot. You need to get out of that corner.
All - Re: the Iowa Poll on the Dem side. The methodology is sound but the results are statistically insignificant for Obama, Clinton, Edwards.It will serve to grab some national headlines for Obama, however.
Jerry Crawford, Dem on the "Insiders" this morning says, "Mitt has one of the best organized campaigns he has ever seen in the state." This is not spin and Jerry knows his stuff. He was instrumental in John Kerry's Iowa win and works for Hillary this time. However, I would not under estimate the power of the pulpit for the Huckster. Jerry also continues to say, "if the caucus were held today, John Edwards would win." This has been a consistent prediction. I'll let you all know if I hear him say something different in the future.
Posted by: zoey
| December 2, 2007 11:40 AM
Happy Sunday Crawdads.....
just popping in to say Hi.....
leaving very shortly to go to my parents place and celebrate my mom's 80th birthday.....
since my father is now housebound, my parents can no longer go to restaurants..... their favorite has always been Chinese..... Rick and I are going to stop on our way at their favorite Chinese place and get a mess of take out.....
unfortunately the weather coming this way has stopped my sister from coming up from NYC..... she teaches art in a private school and was going to take a personal day tomorrow so she could stay over at my parent tonight..... but we are supposedly getting 10-12 inches of snow tonight and into tomorrow....
oh well..... I'll see her at Xmas.....
my brother and his wife are coming in from the coast of Massachusetts.... it'll be good to see them......
everyone have a nice Sunday and stay warm and toasty.....
dnd..... no more pickiness..... :0)
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | December 2, 2007 11:44 AM
Renee,
No more pickiness. But happy birthday to your Mom.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 11:51 AM
Have a wonderful day with your parents and scarfing up the Chinese. It sounds like a great way to spend the day.
Stay toasty warm.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 11:55 AM
Renee: have a great bday with your parents. HBday to your mom; hope you all get good fortunes from the cookies. Enjoy.
Now to read the Frank Rich and MoDo columns.
Zoey: good to hear re Edwards predicted winner.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 11:59 AM
Zoey,
Thanks for the info on Mitt from Jerry Crawford. Interesting. Hasn't he outspent Huckabee like 20-1?
Since you've posted, I can assume the power is still on. Hope the weather breaks out there.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 12:06 PM
dnd: yes Mitt has spent a bundle, Huckster not so much. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. In Iowa, organization is everything and it doesn't take a lot of money to have a strong organization. It does take hard work, however. Even if he wins, Mitt is wasting money, IMO.
My power never went out. It got up to 40 degrees last night but we now have re-freeze. The last I checked the wind chill was about 10 degrees. BRRR. We had 70 degrees two weeks ago. I am not acclimated yet.
I am working with Harry Smith's (CBS) producer on a broadcast from Central College (Harry's alma mater) in the morning for their morning show. I will have to leave my house at 3 am. I hate to think how cold it will be.
Posted by: zoey
| December 2, 2007 12:18 PM
I wonder if Huckerbee's campaign song will be Onward Christian Soldier.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 1:05 PM
Brian
Very funny .
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 1:10 PM
Good links. Thanks!
Hard to believe it's December already.
Hard to believe it's 78 F. Not complaining. Nope, not complaining.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 2, 2007 1:28 PM
Feminist Pitch by a Democrat Named Obama
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/us/politics/02women.html?ex=1354251600&en=bb9c8f992b53ac30&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 1:40 PM
"Clinton nomination not a sure thing."
Lee Bandy, writing in Columbia, SC's "The State."
http://www.thestate.com/local/story/245786.html
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 2:32 PM
It never was dog, just to her an her staff and certain members of the press.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 3:02 PM
Yeah, I am so glad we no longer have a coronation in place before a vote has been cast.
Don't know about you all, but the "Clinton is Inevitable" theme really hit the wrong chord with me. After being a passenger for terrible politics post 9/11 -- with an administration impervious to public will -- hearing "you don't have a choice in the next election either" was astonishingly tonedeaf.
We need a candidate who did not start on third base; got that in 2000 and it was not a huge success.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 3:09 PM
Whoops -- my kingdom for an edit key!
Meant GWBush with slam about 3rd base -- meaning he was president's son; then realized same could apply to Al Gore. Who actually won the 2000 election.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 3:10 PM
dog it's the "Clinton is Inevitable", and the "We'll take a donation from anyone" that made me decide look elsewhere. Two years ago I was a firm Hillary for prez person.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 3:14 PM
Just when you think that Condi is finally starting to do the right thing, she plugs Wolfie back into the ol' gang.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/73273
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 3:17 PM
Brian: who knew? Although that's understandable; believe she has been a good US Senator?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 3:21 PM
Brian, ran, Shelia, and anybody else,
I'm doing some Christmas shopping for a food processor. I don't have a clue. I've heard the KitchenAid 670 is good. But I need some advice from those in the know.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 3:26 PM
I think she's been a very hard working senator. I think our senior senator is a far great statesman than Hillary. Her vote on Leiberman/Kyle troubled me to my core.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 3:26 PM
The only thing that truly bothers me about all the first "inevitable" and now "challenged" and of course inbetween thanks to the hostage guy "presidential",
It just seems to that everything we really know about any of the candidates is whatever story the media decides to tell for a few columns over the byline.
Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing.
It would help to have a round table where these candidates actually talked to each other about issues, but I'm not sure if any of those running could have a real conversation.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 3:27 PM
Kitchenaid makes a very nice food processor.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 3:27 PM
"Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing." -- Jamie
Yup. Sundays are way better without watching the talking heads. You'd get a way better discussion over beers at a bar watching a game.
Brian: re the Lieberman-Kyl Iran resolution -- yup again. That thing sucked mightily. If Hillary does go down, that's going to have been the last straw for many.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 3:31 PM
Oh and for those of you have accused me of being a limo liberal tonight I will fit the bill, I'm going to a 1000 dollar a plate charity gala! No limo though, we're taking a cab!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 3:32 PM
Good luck to all those who think "the Surge" is working, and the war is over.
A WW One veteran I was friends with almost 30 years ago (he was 57 when I was born) had a name for you: DAMPHOOLS.
All that Moqtade al-Sadr has to do is call an assembly, wag his finger, and all hell will be unleashed , again, and again,. and again.
And Congress is poised to give Bush more millions for this fiasco...and Hillary will smile, say GUNG HO, and give a double thumbs up. Let's see what Obama says about it...if anyone even asks him!
Even Frank Rich and Bb Schieffer are focussing on "the 'Surge' is working."
Let's see how this unfolds...another calendar year approaches, and it's about time for more rhetoric ..."we need to see where we are in June..." , then, "September is the critical month...".
Unless MSM kills ALL the war coverage , like Bush covers up the US military dead's caskets.
But, we need to focus on a fence, instead...oh, I understand, alright.
Posted by: Dexter
| December 2, 2007 3:46 PM
Jamie,
"Watching all the Sunday shows, you start to get the feeling that it is all phony and that no one is really getting to the real thing."
Kinda like pro wrestling. That said, I thought Huckabee did pretty well on ThisWeek. Stephanopolus threw him some zingers (though none predicated on his questionable gubernatorial record), and he didn't really seriously dodge any of the question. Huckabee is banking on his charm and affability to save his bacon. Stephanopolus saved his trump card for last when he asked about Dick Morris working for his campaign. Instant meltdown.
I like Schieffer on Face the Nation, but for the most part the Sunday shows are more for their entertainment value than substance.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 3:48 PM
Dex,
Webb said on MTP that the results that are being attributed to the surge were well in place before the surge and would have been the same had there been no surge.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 3:50 PM
dnd:
I resent your implications re the Sunday Shows.
Sincerely,
Pro Wrestling
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 3:54 PM
dog,
LMAO!
Gotta go. Broncos v. Raiders.
Posted by: dnd | December 2, 2007 4:13 PM
dnd,
we have a smaller KitchenAid food processor. It is an older one that we bought at an estate sale had all the tools with it. We also have a larger one but I don't remember which brand. Both are excellent.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | December 2, 2007 4:15 PM
"I'm going to a 1000 dollar a plate charity gala!"
Who bought the tickets?
My snark needed petting :-)
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 4:44 PM
Dexter,
All our guys are doing is sending the boxers to separate corners. The instant someone decides to have another go, or that make shift government Bush created falls or decides anything Iran wants is just hunky dory, it will all blow up again.
Bush is just trying to drag it out so he can throw the bomb he created into someone else's lap.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 4:49 PM
My friend majorie's boss always buys a table, I've been going with her for years, for the Volunteers of America, at The Four Seasons. It's a pretty good party actually, and the one time a year I get to show off my Cha Cha Cha! :)
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 4:57 PM
Enjoy, Brian. Are you limoing through the snow?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 4:59 PM
If your gauge for success regarding the surge is a lower death count, then yes it is a success. But as explained to me the purpose of the success was to give the Iraqi moving room to further the political process then it has been a dismal failure.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 5:00 PM
Dog: "hearing "you don't have a choice in the next election either" was astonishingly tonedeaf."
But dog, who is it that kept that mantra up? The media, that's who. Almost every top tier candidate "says" they are going to win at one time or another. They have to appear confident.
RE: food processors....I really hated my big processor, so got a fairly small Cuisinart and absolutely love it. Easy to use and to clean.
Posted by: Patsi | December 2, 2007 5:01 PM
taxi through the cab! Well I'm outta here, later all.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 5:05 PM
oops.....more testifying in print to Senator Craig's alleged gaydom:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/226703.html
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 5:42 PM
Apparently the rolling stone didn;t get the memo that the leftwing press is in love with Hucksterbee
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/17324246/matt_taibbi_on_mike_huckabee_our_favorite_rightwing_nut_job
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 5:48 PM
(snark alert!) The big Obama endorsement as portrayed by Gordon True Blue. Can I have a drumroll please....is Des Moines Mayor, Frank Cownie. Big deal .
Posted by: zoey
| December 2, 2007 6:05 PM
Have a wonderful time Brian and let us know about the festivities when you return.
There was a caller on S-Span this morning who actually rattled off the whole HIllary is a Lesbian, Obama is a Muslim, Mormonism is a cult mantra. It's scary just knowing that people like that exist much less vote.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 6:05 PM
There was a caller on S-Span this morning who actually rattled off the whole HIllary is a Lesbian, Obama is a Muslim, Mormonism is a cult mantra. It's scary just knowing that people like that exist much less vote.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 6:05 PM
everybody's calling rove batshit crazy but that's exactly to whom he is speaking when he says the democrats pushed bush into war......he's laying out the new gop mass e-mail program.........the 30% will add it to their list of lies.
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 6:10 PM
Willard to give a speech saying
"I am not Tom Cruise."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/02/politics/main3564183.shtml
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | December 2, 2007 6:39 PM
Harborwoman: if you are lurking: have 2 sweet potatoes baking along with the salmon; they are going into my first batch of your black bean chili. Will make it up tonight or tomorrow morning.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 7:12 PM
a mullet mullet:
http://www.snark.com/mullet/
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 7:18 PM
Patsi: re MSM role in portraying Hillary as "inevitable" -- yes, you do have a point there. One can detect also Republican bloggers salivating at her being the candidate, on the chance she's more vulnerable.
BUT I kind of thought the "inevitable" buzz was coming from her own camp, at least her fundraisers and past supporters. And it has been very offputting.
Do not dislike the woman. I think she's formidably talented and an excellent Senator/could be a good statesman type too.
But her election means another four years, at least, of the vitriol we all suffered through during her husband's administration. Plus it would be too dynastic for me. Running the first lady does not say much for one's party having any viability, at least IMHO.
I wish she had waited another term, at least. We all need a change.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 7:20 PM
dog, I've felt that the media has spun the dynasty thing also.
I do agree that the vitriol will be thick....but I think it will be no matter who we run. This Rove crowd is out of control...and, as the great Frank Zappa said, "It's not getting any smarter out there."
Posted by: Patsi | December 2, 2007 7:46 PM
I'm back home! I had a great time at the concert , eventhough it was far from a sellout. It was a happy weekend!
Posted by: Corey
| December 2, 2007 7:50 PM
Frank Zappa was a wise man.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 7:50 PM
Patsi: re the MSM spinning the dynasty thing:
whether they spin it or not, that would be the turn of things.
PS: loved the story of your grandbaby getting all her gifts already. Hope you will enjoy shopping for the next bunch -- and seeing the reaction -- as much.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 7:52 PM
The one major plus I can see for Hillary is her record of collegiality within the Senate. There is a good chance of major change within that body giving the Democrats dominance. The Republicans left can either be a drag on the legislation with that whole bag of tricks allowed in the Senate, or they can be cooperative with easy passage of severely needed changes.
It might not earn any applause from the left most side of the party, but it could bode well for a lot of good changes fast that she has well established relationships with Republican senators.
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 7:58 PM
That is very true, Jamie.
The salmon calls.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 8:03 PM
Not to pick on anyone, but I am tired of hearing that electing Hillary will subject us to years of vitriol. I
have to agree with Patsi on this one. Look what the Republicans did to Kerry, McCain (one of their own), etc. I think the only way it will ever be any different is if Democrats elect someone who backs down easily and goes along with what the Republicans want. Even then, the knives will always be sharpened and at the ready.
Even though I have not decided who I will support yet, I am trying not to be distracted by the media sideshow. I personally won't hold any candidate responsible for the snark of the media. I do, however, reserve the right to provide my own snark.
Posted by: zoey
| December 2, 2007 8:14 PM
Zoey: that has got to be so exciting, to have a chance to make a choice that really matters in the governance of our nation.
Was that pretentiious enough? But that's actually what I meant: Iowans and New Hampshirites rule.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 8:34 PM
dog...
Been lurking occasionally today, and just read your post about the sweet potatoes. Let me know how you like the chili. And let me know if you tweak the recipe, and if you like your tweaked version any better.... I want dnd to let me know that, too! He sounds like an 'expert' with the different chilies/peppers!
Politically, I remain in Edwards' camp. Have neither heard nor seen anything that changes my mind. To the contrary, I share Jamie's suspicion that Obama's just not quite ready. And Hillary just leaves this feeling of 'unease' in my gut that I simply can't shake...it's a lack of trust that she says what she means and means what she says.
Posted by: harborwoman | December 2, 2007 8:49 PM
We should rank our candidates.
Mine are Obama, Edwards (very close, millimeters apart), Richardson, Biden.
On the GOP side; hoping for Huckabee or McCain. Because Giuliani is sheer ruin. I do not have a problem with Romney (altho am voting Dem), but if others say he's plastic, so be it.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 9:09 PM
W is famous for saying what he means and meaning what he says...........
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:31 PM
I dont trust any of the democrats to be able to fight the swift-boat syndrome out of the gop slime machine like Hillary can. The fact that she can and will snap it to those bastards means a lot from my view......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:35 PM
Well Ran is putting together the official poll, but if everyone wants to give their win, place, and show canidates, I'll do a list.
Biden, Clinton, Edwards
Posted by: Jamie | December 2, 2007 9:39 PM
and it's more than mere willingness to fight......one picture in a tank and zip Dukakis.....one scream and zip Howard Dean.......one "first I was against it and then I was for it" and Kerry "doesnt prevail" etc etc etc......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:40 PM
This is one of the best/funniest pages I've come across in a long time...
http://www.unclejayexplains.com/
Play some of his "Uncle Jay Explains" videos. They're great!
Posted by: harborwoman | December 2, 2007 9:46 PM
Just caught up on your posts...
My candidates of choice, in rank order, are...
Edwards, Biden, Richardson
I won't be on much longer. My neighbor is coming over to help me figure out how to run my generator (and to finish hooking it up), in case this wind we're having takes our power out. It's already 'blinked' twice, so...
Posted by: harborwoman | December 2, 2007 9:50 PM
I just got back from a walk around part of my precinct and yes it is 17 degrees with a hearty wind. I nearly fell several times since no one except my block has cleaned their walks. Anyway, the way it shapes up is I saw 2 Hillary yard signs, 2 Obama yard signs, and 2 Mitt yard signs. I think there must be quite a quandry for some because traditionally the yard signs don't go out until after Christmas.
For all you Edwards supporters out there I can tell you he is pretty strong in the rural areas although they trend more Republican as a whole. There are still a lot of Dem county chairs and central committee members from the rural areas who have stuck with him all along. The rural precincts get more delegates than the urban ones. This causes the candidates to have to pay attention to the rural areas and their issues and not spend all their time in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, etc. Edwards figured that out the last time and it almost worked for him.
Posted by: zoey
| December 2, 2007 9:54 PM
The conclusion is CLEAR: Bill Clinton DID oppose the Iraq War from the beginning and said so publicly at the time.
The media cannot let go of their own revisionist history about what the Congressional Resolution was a vote for because that spin helps to shift more of the blame for an unnecessary and spectacularly counterproductive war to someone OTHER than the media itself as it cheerleaded for it, avoided asking the pertinent questions about it and abdicated their responsibility to challenge it when it really mattered.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/02/this-week-lying-liars-on-iraq/#comments
the above is the final paragraph from a good comment about Bill Clinton's statement about being against the war in Iraq from the beginning......complete with documentation and links.
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 9:59 PM
it's comment # 5, not too far down at all......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 10:01 PM
1. Edwards
2. Whoever.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 2, 2007 10:04 PM
Tiptoe gets the "succinct" award for tonight.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| December 2, 2007 10:10 PM
Thanks dog.
This site loads weird tonight.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 2, 2007 10:21 PM
Im a bit tired of nice guys who finish last......
Nice guys finish last.
---Leo Durocher
I still cant fully decide, but the way things stand, Im leaning towards Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: sturgeone | December 2, 2007 10:30 PM
Dog said,
"Was that pretentiious enough?"
I'm sure it was just a typo, but what a great one. Dog has such a big ego, she spells pretentious with two I's.
Well, at least I thought it was funny.
My choices: Biden, Edwards, Richardson
Posted by: EdVB
| December 2, 2007 10:48 PM
god I ate too much, god I drank too much.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | December 2, 2007 10:55 PM
EdVB: pretentious with 2 i's. Am mortifiied. But good catch