Craig on MSNBC "Countdown with Keith Olbermann"
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By Craig Crawford | November 22, 2007 10:20 AM | Permalink | Comments (81)
Craig on MSNBC "Countdown with Keith Olbermann"
Listen Here for audio version (clips by Mad Mustard)
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Woo-hoo. Happy Thanksgiving.
Posted by: dnd | November 22, 2007 10:34 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all. Don't eat too much, just the right amount.
God Bless.
Posted by: anon paranoid | November 22, 2007 10:37 AM
Glad you posted this because I missed last night. It's getting crazy out there, so let's take a breather and just have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Somebody tell the terrorists bombing bagdad for Thanksgiving that we prefer guests who bring a side dish or wine.
Posted by: Jamie | November 22, 2007 10:43 AM
As always Jamie, thank Mad Mustard for the clips. He's a marvel. And HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all. Taking a break from NH trails today, but back on the case tomorrow.
Posted by: Craig Crawford | November 22, 2007 10:45 AM
Mustard: thanks for the clips. Rarely watch MSNBC, so indebted to you.
Joe Galloway of McClatchey today. "Good Riddance to them All." Thought it would be Congress, but he's taking Bush admin to task.
Readers' comments are great.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/21921.html
Posted by: dog's eye view
| November 22, 2007 11:02 AM
Happy Tday everyone! Got some dental cement at the drugstore this morning and everything seems to be holding in place. I have you all have a great holiday and get to eat all your favorites!
Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 22, 2007 11:07 AM
happy Thanksgiving y'all. Things are progressing quickly here as the house comes together for the 8 or so hungry folks show up this afternoon to eat Sra Horsedooty's turkey dinner.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | November 22, 2007 11:19 AM
heading off to my in-laws in a few minutes.....
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
hope everyone has a great day and eats lots of good stuff....
go Packers..... go Cowboys.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee | November 22, 2007 11:31 AM
Delicious day...sleeping in, quiet morning with coffee and the newspaper, then the flurry of last minute preparations before friends and family arrive to share this day of thanks.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you!
Posted by: harborwoman | November 22, 2007 11:39 AM
Almost forgot: RIP JFK. Hope we get a graceful, eloquent and intelligent president again.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| November 22, 2007 11:42 AM
Here's hoping everyone has lots to be thankful for......
here it's just molly and me and grown up baby makes 3......pork loin instead of turkey.....gobble gobble....
Posted by: sturgeone | November 22, 2007 11:48 AM
and maybe a glass of Champipple.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 22, 2007 11:51 AM
What the heck is Champipple? Is it a play on Ripple?
Posted by: dog's eye view
| November 22, 2007 11:58 AM
I enjoy grabbing clips of our favorite Bolo Pundit for rebroadcast to a knowledge-hungry world.
Warning as you eat you Thanksgiving dinner… this is what can happen when turkeys go mad.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2y5sHQzjU0
Posted by: MadMustard
| November 22, 2007 12:23 PM
Champipple was a Fred Sanford concoction involving Ripple wine......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 22, 2007 12:47 PM
Happy Thanksgiving, kids.
Cooking for my mother-in-law for the very first time today. The pressure...oh, it's ON. Gonna go open a bottle of champagne and make it all go far, far away!
Posted by: Julia | November 22, 2007 1:05 PM
Good luck Julia! Just get her drunk!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 22, 2007 1:21 PM
Brian's right. Make sure she drinks plenty, make her wait a LONG time for the meal, and she will be grateful for anything you serve her.
Used to do that (unintentionally) to dinner guests before got the timing down with cooking.
Posted by: dog's eye view
| November 22, 2007 1:37 PM
Happy Thanksgiving all. I'm in DC with limping daughter and #2 son. Daughter is recovering well from her surgery a few weeks ago. From what I read here it sounds like Dog and I may be within spitting distance of each other.
Dog,
I'm in NW Washington near TenleyTown Metro stop. Too far away for my daughter to walk to American University, but more or less in that area.
dnd,
I'm sure you mis-read Chris Matthews. He definitely was disgusted with the Prez and his actions regarding Scooter Libby et al.
Among my thanks today, Thanks to Craig and all C-Listers. Visits are always enjoyable.
Posted by: EdVB
| November 22, 2007 1:57 PM
Dog
I also remembered JFK
http://jdurward.blogspot.com
Posted by: Jamie | November 22, 2007 2:31 PM
Watch out for the Champipple. You could start reciting nursery rhymes:
Starkle starkle little twink
Who the heck I are you think
I'm not as much under the alcofluence
of incohol as some thinkle may peep I am
For I've had only tee martoonies
and all day sober to sunday up in
but the drunker I sit here the longer I get.
Posted by: Jamie | November 22, 2007 2:36 PM
Good Afternoon All,
Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
Craig, I am trying a SPAM stuffing this year. My mother always made one that was oddly delicious considering she used Spam in it. If it's as good as I remember, I will post the recipe for you!
BTW, I added to the JFK pilgrimage this year. Besides Dealy Plaza, made the trip to the Texas theater to see where LHO was arrested.
I will also try to find the LHO grave site since according to findagrave.com, he is burried somewhere in Fort Worth, apparently just a few miles from where I live.
Posted by: Bear
| November 22, 2007 2:48 PM
Bear: Craig's had enough of SPAM. That's why our cyberhome has moved too many times!
Posted by: dog's eye view
| November 22, 2007 3:19 PM
Bear,
Lee Harvey Oswald is buried at Rose Hill Cemetery. Corner of East Lancaster and Sandy Lane over by my house. I live about 2 miles north of he cemetery.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | November 22, 2007 6:51 PM
Hope everyone had a good one.
I know so many foreigners, that I got to thinking about just how many folks in this country would have no historical thought, knowledge or interest in Thanksgiving, especially the British.
I did a quick rundown on thankfullness. I'm home, no rent increase for a year, the family's healthy, & I'm employed. And I get to hang out with you fine folks. What more could I ask for?
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 6:59 PM
In case it is not readily evident I live on the east side of town Bear.
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: horsedooty | November 22, 2007 7:09 PM
tiptoe: most Americans don't have any real idea about Thanksgiving
Posted by: ran | November 22, 2007 7:11 PM
thanksgiving is for the birds.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 22, 2007 7:18 PM
ran, because I'm in schools, I've ODed on pilgrims & Indi...native americans. ;-)
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 7:23 PM
Alice's Restaurant 2nd article down at
Firedoglake.com
Posted by: sturgeone | November 22, 2007 7:37 PM
I find it particularly interesting that a secular holiday like Thanksgiving is the one where, outside of feasting and watching football, is the only one where we give thanks for all our blessings.
Call me crazy, but shouldn't it be the religious holidays where the focus should be ones where we give thanks for our blessings?
This is why I love Thanksgiving.
Posted by: dnd | November 22, 2007 7:51 PM
For those with indigestion, and wanting to make it worse, here's a long term economic outlook from the effects of the Bush administration:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712
Posted by: dnd | November 22, 2007 7:56 PM
Ran,
I hope you're wrong about most Americans and Thanksgiving. Unless your saying we don't know the history of the holiday, I'd like to think that this is one that resonates in some way for most of the the country. For instance, Mr. Crawford is probably thankful for a New Hampshire day without campaign stops, so he doesn't have to worry about being accosted by Reb René or bowmanc, or any other C-Listers, who might be traveling in the area. :-)
Posted by: EdVB
| November 22, 2007 7:57 PM
If you do not yet have indigestion, C-span is hosting Pat Robertson's own Regent Univeristy's forum on "Should America brig democracy to the world" with Charlie Rose, Karl rose, Barry McCaffrey Jeb Bush, and Max Clelland
Posted by: Kathy | November 22, 2007 8:11 PM
thanks madmustard for the cra-zee turkey show!! Man!
Giant turkey-fest went well ...the dessert table held 12 desserts from which to choose. Besides my usual pumpkin pie I had some raspberry pie and a sliver of pecan pie. Everything was great.
Now I am dog-sitting my daughter's 2 Weimaraners as she and her bf play cards at my nieces. The male shredded our JRTerrier's pillow-bed , and I stepped in a dogpile outside just a few minutes. My new adisas shoes ain't so new nomo!
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 8:37 PM
I'm stuffed! I hope you all had as nice a tday as I did!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 22, 2007 8:40 PM
just like Easter, when the naysayers poo-poo the "roll away the stone" story, every Thanksgiving Day someone makes the papers by bitching that the Plymouth Rock and Plimouth Plantation legends are just poppycock.
This lessens the impact my Pomeranian made on history, as now they want me to believe Plymouth Rock is just...a damn rock!
My Pomeranian squeezed through the wrougth-iron fence and wee-wee'd on the Great Rock...and that always meant a lot to me when I was feeling "revolutionary."
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 8:46 PM
sturge, excellent catch!
dnd, thanks for the link. If my blog were up & running I'll post it there with a [rant]![/rant.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 8:51 PM
Dex, have ya ever seen Plymouth Rock? It's pebble. The biggest surprise & disappoint of my, then, young life.
Plimoth Plantation is interesting. There are knock off's all over. Greenfield Village comes to mind.
Sturge, the whole story of Alice's Restaurant is real including the, "Kill, kill" part.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 8:55 PM
It sounds as if you all had a grand time. We have enough leftovers for another 10 folks, the cats are all lazing around in a turkey induced haze. Thank you for being here in this special place and an extra big hug to Mr. Crawford for creating it.
Posted by: Jamie | November 22, 2007 9:10 PM
Here are a few snaps from my tday.
http://www.brianarens.com/blog/tday/
And btw my teeth stayed in, something to be very grateful for!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 22, 2007 9:17 PM
Dex: the Plymouth Rock legend is poppycock, I don't know about any Plimouth Plantation legends so I won't poppycock that.
tiptoe: when Thanksgiving was made a National Holiday it had nothing to so with Pilgrims or Indians
dnd: good point
EdVB: yes, the history of the holiday, how it began etc
Posted by: ran | November 22, 2007 9:17 PM
Nice pix, Brian. Your place?
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 9:30 PM
BTW, I like the mismatched Blue Willow like plates.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 9:32 PM
My friend Marjorie's house.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 22, 2007 9:33 PM
Nice place!
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 22, 2007 9:41 PM
Very! She bought a rundown brownstone about 10 years ago and gutted it. She's an architect.
Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 22, 2007 9:43 PM
Oh, to answer you folks, yes, I have spent quite a few vacations goofing around the historical sites in MA...from the old Marconi Tower ruins on the Cape(for some reason that little area just keeps drawing me back) , to "Pilgrim Country" for Plimouth Plantation and Plymouth Rock and to walk around Mayflower II . We've been whale watching outta Provincetown a couple times and visited Salem and Gloucester ,stayed in Milton, Quincy, and Hyannis, taken boat rides and bicycled on the many paths on the Cape, and swam in the Cape's fresh water Kettle Ponds. I understand many Bostonians much prefer Maine to Cape Cod, but I love the Cape. And if ya go to Pilgrim Country only a few times over great spans of years, it doesn't get old at all. And as a baseball certified nutcase, my own pilgrimage to Fenway Park was very special. This commercial for Massachusetts Tourism Council is complete.
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 10:13 PM
..a nice way to wind down...pop in a cd of Annie Lennox....
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 10:20 PM
Ah Champipple! Champagne and Ripple! Oh and happy birthday to Jamie Lee Curtis!
Posted by: Corey
| November 22, 2007 10:21 PM
I'm unwinding by watching "The Hours"
Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 22, 2007 10:27 PM
Champipple cuz the Lions lost again, Corey?
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 10:51 PM
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ohiotraveler.com/Magazine%2520Contents/stoneyridgewine.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ohiotraveler.com/Venue%2520Files/stoney_ridge_winery.htm&h=235&w=298&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=dCiT4mVIO4W4BM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstoney%2Bridge%2Bwinery%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
Our local Winery
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 10:55 PM
The winery just outside of town here in NW Ohio:
http://www.ohiotraveler.com/Venue%20Files/stoney_ridge_winery.htm
Posted by: Dexter
| November 22, 2007 10:58 PM
I'll be okay as long as the Chiefs beat the Raiders on Sunday.
Posted by: Corey
| November 22, 2007 11:04 PM
here's the link if ya might wanna watch "The Office" episode Craig mentioned in today's YouTube...
http://tv.yahoo.com/the-office-nbc/show/36001/videos
Posted by: Dexter
| November 23, 2007 2:53 AM
*L*L*
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 23, 2007 5:10 AM
Good Morning All. Hope all your gatherings went well. Now back to politics. WaPo has an interesting article on the Iowa Caucus "second Choice" voting.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/22/AR2007112201319.html
Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 9:14 AM
How Bush support the troops…
“At least 20,000 U.S. troops who were not classified as wounded during combat in Iraq and Afghanistan have been found with signs of brain injuries, according to military and veterans records compiled by USA TODAY.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2007-11-22-braininjuries_N.htm
Posted by: nash
| November 23, 2007 10:21 AM
What's funny is that most of the people in the military STILL support Bush because he's, you know, a "conservative."
Posted by: nash
| November 23, 2007 10:23 AM
I told lies to the public but it's not my fault because high officials told me lies, but I can't tell you who they are.
-Scott McLellan
(I feel a whole lot better now.)
Posted by: nash
| November 23, 2007 10:28 AM
Iowa has 7, and New Hampshire has 4 electoral votes. The population of Iowa is about 3,000,000, and New Hampshire is about 1,300,000. Are we to believe that anyone winning either one or both of these primaries will be anointed that party's nomination to run for president, are the American voters nothing more than lemmings following who the news media portrays as the leaders? Certainly states like NY, TX, FL, CA have far more impact on who will be the party's nominee than say 2 small insignificant, seldom ever spoken about states such as Iowa and New Hampshire. NYC has a larger population that both of these states put together. It is the silly season, only because we let it to be the silly season
Posted by: Jameson | November 23, 2007 10:47 AM
Thanks for the link to the WAPO article, jamie. For those of you interested, there are some other strategies employed by caucus-goers in selecting whom they will support.
For instance, in 2004, I was a Wes Clark supporter and knew he would not be viable in my precinct. I decided to go as uncommitted but also wanted a second choice. I went out and saw all the candidates one more time on the weekend before the caucuses. That is when I met Craig for the first time, at the Gephardt rally.
On caucus night, I was able to become the leader of the group of uncommitteds. The Edwards and Kerry groups were by far the largest so I tried to bargain with them to elect me as one of their County Convention delegates. The Edwards group wouldn't bargain so I took my group of uncommitteds to the Kerry group causing a tie between Kerry and Edwards in my precinct.
County Convention Delegates are non-binding. The strategy I put together for the Clarkies in my state was to get to their County Conventions and if Wes got traction in other states, we could eventually get enough delegates to be viable for the National Convention. We feel like we did our part.
I am still relatively new to the caucus process and find it fascinating. It is rewarding to be in a group of Democrats who are knowledgeable and really care about the issues. After the hoopla ot the Presidentials, we discuss and vote on platform planks and elect people to serve on our county committees. I am precinct chair and get to run the show this time and am looking forward to it for sure.
Posted by: zoey
| November 23, 2007 11:05 AM
Morning peeps, hope everyone is enjoying their leftovers!
Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 23, 2007 11:12 AM
Jameson, you raise some legitimate points, but I am not sure I would want to vote for the person who has the most money and can mount the media war it would take to win in the larger states. Not to mention the pundits telling us lies because they get to meet the candidates and ask their questions, but the voters cannot. Do you really want a nominee picked by Chris Matthews, for instance? Do we really want to pick the person with the slickest ad campaign? Maybe some do, but I don't.
A relatively unknown and unfunded candidate can still go out and run for president in Iowa and New Hampshire, gain traction and move through South Carolina. The real culprit here, in my opinion, is the compressed schedule that gives fewer voters a chance to meet the candidates. There is no recovery time if someone falters in an early state. Iowa should only give all candidates a chance to craft their messages and then weed out the field.
Posted by: zoey
| November 23, 2007 11:22 AM
Jameson,
What Zoey said. I prefer a small number of seriously engaged people who meet the candidates one-on-one or in small settings to media blitzes.
The whole system is seriously broken, but until we can fix it, I'm fine with Iowa and NH. But I'd be fine with North Dakota or Oklahoma too.
Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 11:33 AM
Zooey
thanks for the really interesting post on caucus strategy. I look forward to hearing more.
I don't mind if Iowa anNH have a weighted position. At least there i s a chance for a candidate with no money. It would be better if there was less punditry and more journalism.
yesterday's theme wretched excess is just enough
I think I want past wretched excess...
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | November 23, 2007 11:46 AM
The party of the rich, the Republicans. You may want to rethink that.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071123/NATION/111230087/1002
Posted by: FryDaddy
| November 23, 2007 12:51 PM
shorter FryDaddy: here's a rebutal to something no one said
Posted by: ran | November 23, 2007 12:58 PM
Save the planet...from the nut cases out there. The stupidity and gullibility of some; a sad case of buying into stupid BS.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&in_page_id=1879
Posted by: FryDaddy
| November 23, 2007 1:00 PM
More stupid BS.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/22/EDNKTDK1S.DTL
Posted by: FryDaddy
| November 23, 2007 1:02 PM
So...this woman can't have kids now? Point being?
Posted by: Corey
| November 23, 2007 1:03 PM
Oh fry we've been saying forever most of what you post is stupid BS, I'm glad you finally caught on!
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 23, 2007 1:08 PM
FD
While I deplore her decision to have an abortion, she is right about the babies. Any two people who have more than one child is contributing to an onrushing eco disaster. There were 2.5 billion on earth when I was born. There are close to 7 billion now. Only the fact that most of those people live lives at a much lower standard than the western world means there are enough energy, water, and food resources to go around.
If everyone were able to live at our standard, there would be enough to go around for about half of the people on earth and then only if the population was close to a zero population growth.
Unless pollution, drought and famine sound like pleasant possibilities, human beings need to decrease their numbers slowly and steadily by commitment not violence and then come up with a way to clean up after ourselves
All the people who died in the devastation of the tidal wave were replaced within six months.
Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 1:26 PM
The only for sure way to not get pregnant is to not do.... But she keeps doing....
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 23, 2007 1:37 PM
it.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 23, 2007 1:38 PM
"HAPPY THANKSGIVING FROM "THE WHITE HOUSE" !!!!"
http://alfrankenweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=388456#388456
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 23, 2007 1:45 PM
FD,
There were enough falacies in the "rich people are democrats" to choke a horse. It was a classic example of presenting a group of unrelated facts in order to prove an already formed opinion.
Just because a whole lot of wealthy people living in 90210 are Democrats has no bearing on the relative number of total wealthy people in a particular party. Add to that the sheer numbers of lower middle class who were dragged into the Republican party courtesy of the "southern strategy" to attract white folks during the sixties and you can push those "statistics" any way you want.
Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 1:46 PM
That article has a horrible biased tone it. This couple should be commended for sticking to their principals, not spoken in terms of as people who denied themselves something that they would otherwise want.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 23, 2007 1:48 PM
Fry,
"The party of the rich, the Republicans. You may want to rethink that."
Just goes to show you that if you want wealth all around, vote for the dems!
Let's see:
* Corrupt war profiteer billionaire who doesn't want anybody to touch his ill-gotten gains: Dick Cheney.
* Hard working smart multi-billionaire who's giving away his fortune to the needy: Warren Buffet.
We report. You decide.
Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 3:02 PM
born in Pasadena, raised in Mexico City, who am I?
WaPo link to Charlie Rose i-viewing Bill Richardson
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/11/08/VI2007110801854.html
Posted by: Dexter
| November 23, 2007 3:19 PM
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