Quiet Time with Dennis Kucinich

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DURHAM, N.H. -- Unlike the big-league presidential candidates who march into their campaign events with rock music blaring over the loudspeakers, Dennis Kucinich wanders into a room almost unnoticed, avoids the podium, waves off attempts to pin a microphone to his suit jacket and just starts talking without any flowery introduction by a local politician trying to curry favor.

With his opening remarks before taking questions, the Democratic White House hopeful and Ohio congressman further distinguishes himself from better known rivals, saying things they would not dare to say.

“We are losing our democracy to lies,” Kucinich told about 70 students at the University of New Hampshire on Wednesday. Then he launched into a 15-minute defense of the House resolution that he introduced to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney.

Later, Kucinich previewed his 300-page resolution to impeach President George W. Bush – partly based on his belief that the administration plans to attack Iran in what Kucinich calls a “war crime in motion.”

Kucinich blasted his own party’s congressional leaders for ignoring his proposals. “If Democrats really stood for the Constitution, we could have impeached the vice president,” he said.

Whether or not you agree with anything Kucinich says, he is a refreshing change from the poll-tested and carefully calibrated stump speeches usually heard on the campaign trail. And better yet, throughout Kucinich’s hour-long appearance, his only musical accompaniment was the ringtone of a student’s cell phone.

 

Craig on "Kudlow and Company"
Friday (11/23) CNBC 7:45 PM ET


 

    Comments

  1. Whoooooooooo are you?

    the who?

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 4:23 PM

  2. I can only hope the voters of Iowa and NH do something weird, like vote for Dennis Kucinich......

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 4:31 PM

  3. Hope springs eternal aye sturg?

    Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 23, 2007 4:53 PM

  4. Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 4:53 PM

  5. now that would be a very strange 3rd party.....

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 4:57 PM

  6. brian.....probably will take a little more than hope.....but what the hell.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 5:02 PM

  7. very strange third party, especially if they hide Paul's meds

    Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 23, 2007 5:08 PM

  8. who could imagiine..... that they would freak out in texas.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 23, 2007 5:11 PM

  9. The problem with Kucinich is that the "gadfly" has a hard time being heard over the well organized noise of the modern campaign. Up until WWII Socialists, Communists, union organizers, suffragets et al had some power when speaking on street corners, operating small newspapers, marching, getting arrested etc. They rarely got elected for their trouble, but slowly but surely they got bits and pieces of what they wanted enshrined in party platforms.

    Much of what Kucinich says and does is right and necessary. Unfortunately, he often comes across as too sincere, strident, and a bit over the edge. With luck he will get himself heard by enough people to generate questions in the general population that the "powers that be" are finally forced to acknowledge and answer.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 5:16 PM

  10. Kucinich and Paul? A Socialist and a Libertarian. Oh what the hell. Makes as much sense as anything we've got now...

    Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 5:29 PM

  11. Skinny Dennis is not deterred by ill treatment at the hands of the corpulent media. It took him five tries to get elected to congress this is only his second run for president.

    I have enjoyed the recent reporting on the siting of ufo's and it certainly points out what an ass Russert is.

    I was surprised at the depth of support he has in Northern Cal in 2004.

    The folks I don't understand are the out of Iraq caucus people who have consistently voted against their own interests. They should be on the road campaigning with Skinny Dennis.

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | November 23, 2007 5:33 PM

  12. BTW, when I said "A Socialist and a Libertarian" I didn't mean CC Goldwater and Stephanie Miller.
    http://goldwatermiller08.com/

    Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 5:52 PM

  13. Dennis Kucinich speaks the truth. He is the best candidate who deserves to be heard . His plan to immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq is nothing but an attempt to get us back to square one and proceed in a different direction than the neocons and their lackeys, Cheney and Bush.
    There has not been presidential candidate running with whom I agree with 100% on foreign issues for many years, until Rep. Kucinich.
    The fact that people criticize him and reject him and call him "Skinny Dennis" indicate to what degree people select the person they want to see at 1600.
    And imagine the furor if pundits and bloggers started writing about "Fat Ass Hillary". Pretty petty and disgusting, no?

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 6:06 PM

  14. Dex,
    I always though the appellation "Skinny Dennis" w.r.t Kuicnich referred to Guy Clark's "LA Freeway"

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=D2H3_YHnmgA

    and meant in an affectionate way. Was EdVB the one who started this? Trust me, as a Richardson supporter weight is not my issue.

    Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 6:18 PM

  15. Colorado Buffalos: 65
    Nebraska Cornhuskers: 51

    No this isn't the basketball score, it's the football score at Folsom Field in Boulder today. I don't think the temp got above 30 degrees.

    Posted by: dnd | November 23, 2007 6:21 PM

  16. Speak the truth and the MSM will mock you and write you off as "unelectable."

    Posted by: nash Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 7:04 PM

  17. Nash, It isn't the MSM. They only reflect the broad mass of society who don't like to have their minds or their world aggravated by some "far out" idea.

    That is why virtually all "movements" have a charismatic leader who usually comes to a bad end, who is then followed by a practical organizer who keeps the movement alive and growing until it reaches a level of acceptance by the general society even if viewed as a little strange. Through time the movement becomes a large enough percentage of the population to impact the government, and finally becomes the "main stream" that slowly solidifies and causes another "movement.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 7:46 PM

  18. dnd: that's right, I think that is Hipster's nickname for Kucinich,

    Posted by: ran | November 23, 2007 7:48 PM

  19. but Craig...was not T. Boone Pickens the one who put the challenge out there?
    I never heard why he is dredging this up now but it appears by this seg on Kudlow that it all part of disrupting the attention to HRC and her challengers.
    What's Kerry supposed to do, let it all go again. He tried to downplay it in '04 becuz he must have thought his medals proved those SW.Boaters were pure, plain repug hacks.
    So I all for letting this stupid debate go on with T. Boone and JFKerry to end it once and for all, and retire "swiftboating" from the American lexicon.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 8:06 PM

  20. I just got back from our little city's Christmas parade...mostly the HS band, twenty firetrucks, and the rolling sleigh w/ Santa on board.
    But also there was huge wagon pulled by a big truck...all deco'd out with a HUGE Ron Paul poster, and I swear to the heavens at least 200 young folks, mostly high school and college age, passing out fliers...mine says:
    "No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution."

    Along with 34 other talking points.

    Early this year I wrote here that I had seen my first political yard sign...Ron Paul's.
    By the way, the Ron Paul float and marchers tonight were the only political parade entries.
    Some drunken hayseed kept hollering, "Who the hell is Ron Paul?"
    The fun of rural life!

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 8:17 PM

  21. You regulars know I am for Dennis Kucinich, but since I have it handy, here's a # for an audio of Paul. 1-888-322-1414

    Ron Paul's record: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm

    http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 8:22 PM

  22. Of course Paul voted to reduce an Amtrak fund-slashing bill...he doesn't like trains. He wanted to cut $475 mil.
    I say FUND MASS TRANSIT NOT BIG OIL

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 8:27 PM

  23. yay, Dennis!!!

    Posted by: colleen | November 23, 2007 8:58 PM

  24. Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 9:24 PM

  25. DEx

    We are in full agreement about AMTRAK. It is insane that you can't take a train coast to coast without a whole lot of hassle and in a major state like California you can't go from the state capitol to Los Angeles without using a bus half the way.

    Europe is so far ahead of us on high speed and well connected rails while tons of pollutants are poured into the air by jets requiring hours of aggravation at airports.

    When are these people going to learn that they are in the "transportation" business not airplane, train, and bus business when it could all be coordinated for both efficiency and safety.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 9:28 PM

  26. Music and history buffs: Sometimes you don't know what you've done until you've done it. I posted "We Didn't Start The Fire" from You Tube. on my site. After this was done, I found that it came with a series of images below the big screen.

    If you click on any one of those images, you get the song all over again with a whole different set of pictures and commentary from different people.

    It is absolutely fascinating (if you can stand listening to the song over and over) to see the impressions by many, many people.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 23, 2007 10:49 PM

  27. Dennis speaks for me.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | November 23, 2007 11:40 PM

  28. Dex
    I think Skinny dennis is a term of endearment

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | November 23, 2007 11:50 PM

  29. Jamie , you are so right about the train problem here at home.
    Bullet trains started in the planning stages in 1959...think of that! Just 14 years after Hiroshima/Nagasaki they started planning bullet trains.
    In 1964 they ran max 125 mph.
    Today's trains run max 185 mph.
    The modern drive-cars look like wingless airplanes.
    Jamie, I (and much of America) live under major air corridors. One sunshiny morning I counted 36 airplanes up at around 35,000 feet. That was just a quick look up into the sky . Then hours after the rush-times, the jettrails form a virtual cloud cover . It's a shame how much carbon is released from all those jets.
    Bullet trains, maybe confined to sections of the USA , say linking up Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Detroit, and Indianapolis here in the Midwest, could really could down much of the giant carbon skyprint all these jets make.
    Well, flying is king, and we can dream of bullet trains, but every time a plan is announced, soon it disappears.
    All Aboard!

    http://www.japaneselifestyle.com.au/travel/shinkansen_history.htm

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 12:00 AM

  30. I'm touched and moved by MSNBC's commitment to the safety of the nation's children as demonstrated by their "To Catch A Predator" marathon!

    Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 24, 2007 12:08 AM

  31. It'd be interesting to estimate how many routes would be faster by bullet train than air. Given security lines, weather delays, luggage, backup delays at hubs etc., I'm guessing about 1000 miles.

    Posted by: dnd | November 24, 2007 12:37 AM

  32. dnd...even now , city centre-city centre, Amtrak competes , time-wise, with airline shuttles in the NE Corridor.

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 12:53 AM

  33. dnd: leave Boston 5:15 AM........arrive NY Penn Station 8:45

    http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak

    Posted by: Dexter Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 12:58 AM

  34. I remain an ardent advocate of trains....when 15 I rode the train from chas SC to DC, Philly, chicago, Denver and San Francisco, and then 45 days later from San Fran on the southern route back to charleston......one of my fondest memories.....I've ridden the trains at every infrequent opportunity since; havent been in a plane since 77 and wont be again....I've heard it said that Ike dealt the railroads a blow when he became committed to the interstates, his support for the interstate highways reputed to have been his response to a cross country drive he undertook as a young man, something to do with war bonds or the like.......the auto companies were all for this, of course, and the oil companies, also the military was involved....every man his own train line.....

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 6:58 AM

  35. just for chronology i was 15 in '63.

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 7:03 AM

  36. Pilgrims
    From Dickipedia
    The Pilgrims is the name commonly applied to a particular group of seventeenth-century European colonial dicks. They settled in present-day Plymouth, Massachusetts. They were a religious congregation, which is not the only reason they were dicks, though it is, nevertheless, one of the reasons. The Pilgrims had originally fled a volatile political environment in the East Midlands of England for the Netherlands. But once in the Netherlands, the Pilgrims’ level of dickishness was such that they couldn’t live even in the Netherlands. Many have asked, what kind of dick would find the Netherlands too intolerant or too constraining? The answer is the Pilgrims.
    Afraid of losing their cultural identity through misdickination, or intermarriage between they and non-dicks, the colonists decided to form a new colony in North America, securing funding from English investors. Historians often note that virtually every dick situation can ultimately trace its start back to investment bankers.

    The colonists faced many challenges, from disease to internal conflict to the people whose land they had stolen. Fortunately, they were able to withstand the former and slaughter the latter, and went on to become the second successful English settlement in what would later become the United States of America, and their dick spirit became an important force in American cultural identity.
    more at:
    http://dickipedia.org/index.php?title=Pilgrims

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 7:16 AM

  37. Tucker Carlson debates Dennis Kucinich.....(lol)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bELc-kjLR_E

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 7:26 AM

  38. Jason Horowitz relays a joke from Jon Stewart, who says running with a name like Barack Obama is like running as a World War II-era Republican with the name "Gaydolf Shitler."

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 7:32 AM

  39. Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 7:39 AM

  40. "....the pinched and thorny faces of the pious."

    --Christopher Hitchens

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 8:02 AM

  41. for those who like superb fiction:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Thomas

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 8:07 AM

  42. The stupidity of Ronald Reagan:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2101842/

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 24, 2007 8:21 AM

  43. Hey..... I hope everyone is over their turkey hangover.....

    I've always looked at the name of Skinny Dennis as affectionate also..... I LOVE the fact that he's in the debates..... he always has something interesting to say that no one else brings up....

    They're going to build a new train route in this area..... it's going to go from southern Maine.... through Portsmouth NH... down to Boston.... hell, I'll try it when it's built.....

    Ron Paul is a libertarian..... that means he hates government..... period.... and he hates taxes and anything that is funded by them..... he may talk a good game compared to the other Repubs.... but a true libertarian believes in a "dog eat dog" world..... that's not anywhere I want to live.....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | November 24, 2007 8:26 AM

  44. here's some news on Tucker Carlson.....

    http://www.observer.com/2007/msnbc-hedges-carlsons-future

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | November 24, 2007 8:28 AM

  45. RR,

    I see a relationship between your last two posts. In a dog eat dog world, Tucker Carlson's name would be Alpo.

    Posted by: EdVB Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 8:51 AM

  46. Loved the spokesliar quiz. Thanks for that one.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 24, 2007 9:05 AM

  47. Renee,
    Libertarians aren't anarchists. Paul may be a little extreme, but at least he's honest.

    I'm surprised MSNBC hasn't moved fast to replace Tucker with Scheuster. With the Hollywood writer's strike, seems like a good time for a ratings bump.

    Posted by: dnd | November 24, 2007 9:06 AM

  48. dog eat dog world and I am wearing dog bone underwear.

    thats how I heard it.

    yo soy Horsedooty!

    Posted by: horsedooty | November 24, 2007 9:20 AM

  49. uh, oh..... Dooty.... you'd better change that underwear now.... :)

    dnd.... I'll give you that.... R Paul is honest..... and not a true libertarian.... he wants to ban abortion..... however, IMO libertarianism would work as well as communism..... it looks good on paper.... but fails utterly in real life application.... because just like communism, it fails to take basic human nature into account.....
    I agree that some government regulations are a hassle and do trample on our freedoms..... but a country with no governmental regulations would be hell for most people,IMO...

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | November 24, 2007 9:44 AM

  50. Hitler was true to his beliefs too, crazy people usually are.

    Posted by: Brian In NYC | November 24, 2007 10:06 AM

  51. What dnd said....about Tucker and replacing him. He is such a smarmy maroon and really adds nothing to the conversstion except junior high taunts and logic

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker | November 24, 2007 10:06 AM

  52. Yep. "Cheers" line from Norm:
    "It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milk bone underwear!"

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 10:10 AM

  53. Australia's conservative party leader lost his re-election big-time. The left-leaning Labor Party won. Bad news for George Bush.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_election

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 10:14 AM

  54. here's a CNN article about Australians electing a new prime minister..... Mr. Kevin Rudd won largely on campaigning about changes in environmental, educational, and workplace policies.... he wants to pull all troops out of Iraq and wants to sign the Kyoto Treaty..... (amazing how fast a little global warming will make people think differently)...

    except for a few countries.... conservatism around the world is dying..... it will die in this country as well, IMO....

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/24/australia.election/index.html

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee | November 24, 2007 10:15 AM

  55. dnd kgc

    No tears for Tucker. He has a long career ahead playing the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz ... not much of a dancer, but he should do well singing "If I Only Had A Brain".

    Posted by: Jamie | November 24, 2007 10:29 AM

  56. Renee,
    When I think of libertarianism, I think of the original libertarian, Thomas Jefferson. Not Ron Paul. Put 10 libertarians in a room and you'll get 10 different definitions of what libertarianism means. Maybe 11.

    I disagree that Communism looks good on paper. But you are so right that it fails because it ignores human nature.

    "conservatism around the world is dying"

    Well, George Bush "conservatism" or Ronald Reagan "conservatism", but not Barry Goldwater conservatism. Or Nelson Rockefeller or Lincoln Chafee conservatism. I see a big rise for those who are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

    Posted by: dnd | November 24, 2007 10:35 AM

  57. dnd There is a good chance that Goldwater actually read Adam Smith rather than just spouting one sentence they heard from someone else.

    Posted by: Jamie | November 24, 2007 10:49 AM

  58. Great Quiz at Glassbooth to match you with a candidate

    http://glassbooth.org/

    I ended up with Richardson which is where I started (waffles R Us)

    Posted by: Jamie | November 24, 2007 11:13 AM

  59. I ended up with John Edwards. I guess I'd better try it again! LOL! Just kidding , Brian. But , I ended up with Richardson on that last quiz we all took.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 24, 2007 11:27 AM

  60. "Tucker has the lowest rated show on MSNBC, followed closely by Matthews."

    If true, is MSNBC removing Tucker because of his politics or his ratings? If it is because of his ratings Matthews' position isn't very secure. However if MSNBC's intentions on removing Tucker are because of his politics then Matthews is on firm ground. That said, Joe Scarborough's life at MSNBC may be short lived. Of course the problem with MSNBC is MSNBC. Only on a very rare occasions do any of their shows, primetime or otherwise, ever beat out FOX. So if that is the case, then Tucker will be dismissed because of his political views, and not because he has low ratings, as every show on MSNBC has low ratings.

    Posted by: Jameson | November 24, 2007 11:31 AM

  61. yet again I got matched to Gravel.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 24, 2007 11:34 AM

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