Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Craig,

The clip that played on MSNBC was too short to even know if there was really an argument. Senator Obama appears to be raising his voice, but he may have been speaking at that level for entire meeting. He was making a legitimate point regarding Iraq and Sadam Hussein, but it sounded like a strange way to answer the lady's question. I think when Senator Clinton does that , they call it triangulation.

(And now that I've looked up the definition of triangulation, I feel comfortable in saying it takes knowledge of a certain political calculus to pull that off.)

Dog,

(I just typed this in the wrong place, so it also appears on the old thread.)

Regarding your entry on the last thread,just to play safe, Ana Marie Cox should be banned for two lifetimes. Harold Ford, Jr. should be given one, and only one, chance to come out of hiding, and explain himself. After that Imus and crew can decide if and when he should ever appear again.

Dan Rather should take Tim Russert's place in the recurring line-up, and Mr. Russert should do penance in the public square to atone for his tepid support of someone he kissed up to regularly. He should also say five Our Fathers and five Hail Marys in private, but that's a separate issue.

And our host, Craig Crawford, should be a featured guest on the December 2nd show, as well as having a scheduled, weekly time slot for calling in with campaign comments & updates.

I'm planning on taking the morning off on 12/2 just so I can tune in to WABC radio's streaming broadcast for the full four hours.

What's wrong with admonishing the audience...I always admonish dinner guests to remember I'm the one who gets to tell all the jokes--right Mad?

Great vlogging Craigster!

EdVb

Ignore him. It's the second coming!

It may just be me, but I do find Obama's statements and responses to be more than a little hectoring. Sure the lady was argumentative and rather naive to say the least on the issue, but he came off looking more than a little egotistical and holier than thou.

I'm not sure if I was just "stripped" of my dignity, or flat-out insulted, but I refuse to respond in kind.

Or did I?

The woman admitted she is not a democrat will not be participating in the Iowa Democratic Caucus and was there to make trouble.

I thought we were waiting for the plunger to do this..oh right he did do this and the media was too busy kissing his butt to report on it.

Big Russ gettin' slammed... well I never.

That would explain at least one of your posts.

Sad that the father should suffer for the sins of the son, but so be it.

The battlefield is strewn with the victims of an onslaught... Barack... Imus... Tim Russert.. turkeys and alas even poor Big Russ... I hardly knew ye.

HW,

Good point about Bob Schieffer. I was distracted during the show, but you're right that he seemed dismissive of Edwards as a candidate. I give Edwards credit for ignoring the tone and plowing forward with his answers and ideas.

kgc,

To get back on topic, what was the story on that woman who asked the question? You said she admitted being there to cause trouble. Any further details? The question didn't sound that bad, other than wanting a specific answer on broad topics, and whatever else she said was unintelligible on the clip I heard.

Apparently, there's been a push poll re: Elizabeth Edwards' cancer and John's ability to stay in the race. Tacky, tacky, tacky! Elizabeth says there's nothing in her prognosis that would indicate she'll be any less healthy next November than she is now. She'll be interviewed tomorrow morning by Mika (after MoJo, I think...hope so...otherwise, I'll miss it).

On a totally different topic, what's everyone planning to do for Thanksgiving?

Another state a long way from the border with Mexico is passing it's own laws. Like it or not, this issue is a hot button topic with the laboring class and one that the democratic party needs to provide an acceptable answer or risk losing a lot of people who are more than ready to vote for them. When you start getting favorable commentary about these laws on Air America, it's time to prick up the ears and pay attention

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18michigan.html?ref=us

Sorry, EdVB...I didn't mean to redirect the topic away from Obama and his questioner. I thought the woman sounded a bit strident, but - like the rest of you - I had trouble understanding everything she said. I agree with dog, though, that Obama's response re: being as invested as Rudy in keeping his children safe was a reasonable and appropriate response.

Hi Ed

I heard it on CNN and I'm looking for a link. But essentially she said she is a republican (not that there is anything wrong with that) and was there to point out demoncratic party weaknesses

Watching Tweety. So Obama assumed that Novak's blind item was true. Now Novak says it didn't come from the Clinton campaign.

HW,

No need to apologize to me. I'm hardly ever on topic. I was just segueing into my question for KGC.

kgc,

Thank you. No need to dig for a link. You've answered my question. Time now, to go home and walk the dog. Catch you all later.

hmmmmm......
Edwards is getting shrill..... Obama is yelling..... Clinton has made a comeback....

I think I smell a media creation......

Y'all are too funny! :-)

Me thinks it's not a good idea to have any kind of smack down with voters when running for office. Even for dog catcher.

Obama needs a cig.

tt

EdVB: I would be surprised if Craig Crawford as well as Tom Oliphant are not on Imus's first show .
Craig was/is a definite 1-A class I-Fave, and Tom Oliphant stood up for Imus when the world was piling on the old guy.
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I happened to see the Morning Joe show at about 6:10 when that clip aired.
Obam-Iranna definitely lost his cool , but please understand, Mr. Obama, that the conservative-type working-class person , the type that listens to the right-wing hate shows on the radio, truly believe the next terrorists that blow something BIG up are coming through the southern borders. I hear it every night when I listen to the trucker show on the radio.
Every night people call in, convinced that the next real badass terrorists will be scrambling across the Rio Grande clutching a grip filled with a clean tee shirt and a bunch of yellow cake uranium.

Renee

I was sensing the same. We will view, we will interpret, we will fuss and replay every video we can find, and then we will tell you what to think even if it happens to be 180 degrees from what you really think and repeat it so often that you wonder if you are wrong and eventually we will beat the thing to death until you scream "uncle".

Tee hee. I beat Matthews to a subject. My blog post is about "Boom"

THE WORKERS' CANDIDATE:

all his answers from the last debate "NOT ANOTHER DIME!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE

ARKANSAS BEER RUN:

http://www.biggeekdaddy.com/humorpages/Misc/lawnmowerDUI.html

Dex, where ever do ya find these things?

*L*

tt

The Iman is coming back to WTKK in Boston. Which means I don't have to listen to NPR anymore since it was pratically the only alternative to Michael Grahm, who was very annoying most of the time.

I do have a question about the first sentence in the column above. Why was it only a matter of time before Obama yelled at somebody? Is he known for that? Or is it just that there is a sense of frustration on his part that not everyone is supporting him, and some are even pressing him for answers.

I find it presumptious on the part of any politician that starts a sentence with "the American people..." That is pretty bold for them to imply that they are speaking for 350 million or so people.

Odds on Harold Ford appearing on the Imus show.............................low.

RFD-TV? he was pumping it long before the firing....when he got back into NYC after Cleveland look what he had to go to......Sports Station.....hence Werner Wolff, Sid Rose, Chris Carlin, Mike Breen, etc.....

If the quote from Obama that his childhood in Indonesia makes him the "most experienced" in international relations is correct, he just stepped on my last nerve. To compare that to someone like Biden, Richardson, or even Clinton as first lady is pure unadulterated arrogance. We already have a short tempered, whiney, arrogant President. We don't need a Democratic version of the same.

Harborwoman,
"Is dnd around today? I'm just getting ready to sit down to a bowl of black bean sweet potato chili, and was wondering if he ever made a pot of it."

Never have, but it sounds delish. Recipe please.

Ok, not Obama's best moment. I'm kinda surprised most of the front runners of both parties haven't blown a gasket, as they all seem a little high strung.

dnd...Black Bean Sweet Potato Chili

2 medium-large sweet potatoes or yams
2 T olive oil
1 C chopped onion
2-3 garlic cloves
1 medium red or green bell pepper, diced
2 15-oz cans black beans, drained and rinsed
1 28-oz can diced tomatoes, undrained
1-2 small fresh hot chilies, minced (or 1 4-oz can mild green chilies)
2 t ground cumin
1/2 t dried oregano
salt to taste
fresh cilantro for garnish (optional)

Bake sweet potatoes at 350 degrees until slightly firm, but not soft. When cool, peel and dice into 3/4 inch cubes. Set aside. Heat oil in soup pot or Dutch oven. Add garlic and onion and saute over medium heat until golden brown. Add remaining ingredients and heat. Cover and simmer for 15 minutes. Add diced sweet potatoes and continue to simmer until vegetables are tender, 10-15 minutes. Add salt to taste. Taste improves if allowed to stand for 1-2 hours before serving. Reheat and serve with chopped cilantro for garnish.

Just read latest posts...thanks for covering me on the recipe, dog! It really is a tasty chili!

Jamie,
To Stephanie's comment this am about women who don't agree with Hillary, but are gonna support her because they perceive she's being picked on by mean men. I find this fascinating. I don't quite understand it, but I'm sure the Clinton campaign does. It will be interesting to see how they play this.

Renee,
Your Patriots are unstoppable.

And you must be doing the happy dance with the news that Mike Lowell signed a three year contract with the Red Sox.

I'm leaning towards Richardson or Biden right now, at least for the NH primary which could be any day now.

I'm not too suprised that there are anti Mormon push polls surfacing in NH right now, smearing Romney. We've sen that kind of crap up here before. I'm not a fan of his but I would rather see them go after his record & ideas than play the religion card.

CNN reran the debate last night. I thought Edwards pledge to rid the world of nuclear weapons was niave. It sounds good , but it won't happen. Anybody that has studied history should be able to figure that out.

Harbor,
Thanks for the recipe. The high temp today was 76, very unusual. The high on Wednesday is suppose to be 28, also very unusual. But that'll be a great time to try out your chile.

I think the national psyche is going to balk at voting for Brigham Young's revenge.....

Karl Rove on Hillary:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/71000

Huh. Maybe he really wants Hillary to be elected.

I wasn't around all day, so did anybody have any insight as to why Fran Townsend resigned?

sturgeone,

I suspect you are right. But don't think about Brigham Young, it was Joseph Smith that was the original weirdo. Using seeing stomes to translate the golden tablets that he found in Palmyra, NY.

that would be stones not stomes.

"Presto, change-o…
PS — Speaking of rats and sinking ships, any bets on whether the departing of Franny Townsend has to do with (a) bruised ego from her PR campaign to be AG falling flat; (b) a new promised gig with the Rudy Show; (c) an about-to-be-publicly-disclosed new pile of crapola policy problem or (d) some combination of the above?"

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/11/19/from-the-department-of-concern-trolls-are-us/#comments

I think it was water into wine.

I was suggesting that Brigham Young was a follower not the originator of Mormon theology.

I was referring to the hounding across the US they received....just for the line Smith or Young would do...I figured Brigham is more familiar than Joseph.....

" I find this fascinating. I don't quite understand it, but I'm sure the Clinton campaign does."

dnd, virtually every woman over 40 understands it. If you have been in the working world and been in a position where you were not only passed over for a promotion, but are expected to train the guy who got the job ... it becomes almost a knee jerk reaction. Any number of affronts such as that happen out in the world every day. If Hillary is the candidate, there are going to be a lot of Republican women lying through their teeth while the vote in her favor, particularly if the Rep nominee is multi married Mr. G.

and as we all know "Payback is a mother"

Jamie,
"If you have been in the working world and been in a position where you were not only passed over for a promotion, but are expected to train the guy who got the job ... it becomes almost a knee jerk reaction"

Thanks for the perspective. BTW, I've been passed over for promotion and expected to train the jerk who got the job. And "the jerk" has been both male and female. Fortunately for me, my resume has allowed me to bolt and keep my dignity intact. But I understand your explanation.

So here's a hypothetical: What if the republican nominee was Kay Baily Hutchinson and the dem was Edwards (or some other male). Do you think there'd still be the crossover?

dnd,

I doubt it would go the other way from Dem to Rep even with the perception that Kay is one of the women who "made it". With Democratic women the sense is that the real push on "women's lib" came from our side of the aisle and our men are nicer, funnier, and better looking.

Speaking of that "water to wine" trick, a body could become mighty popular in the southeast right now if they could convert wine to water.... bet they'd give you the key to the city in Atlanta.

I don't know the Joe Horn story. What's the scoop?

As far as the SE and sinners, they held a prayer meeting in Atlanta one day last week to ask God for rain, and got 1/2 inch of rain the next day.

Never mind...just googled him and learned that he's the Texan who shot the two burglars.

radio:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8924795494342701787&q=Lum+n+abner&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Kin to Tom Horn?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Horn

sturg...

How far did you read about Tom Horn? He was hanged 104 years ago tomorrow. I'm betting joe won't meet the same fate...given that he's in Texas and all.

Being from the deep south, I grew up around lots of guns. Pretty much everyone there has one...or many. I have a highly developed respect for them, and prefer to keep my distance from all guns. A kid I grew up with accidentally killed his sister when she and her boyfriend were target shooting. He was just a child when it happened - three, if I remember correctly. They put the gun down, he picked it up, and the rest is tragic history.

Tired and disgusted at late-night reruns, I popped in an ancient tape of "High Noon" with Gary Cooper. A buddy sent it to me when he put all his stuff onto disc and got rid of all his tapes. I guess I had never seen it...it was damn good. BTW, the movie I mentioned a couple nights ago, the Brit cult film about two unemployed actors , is "Withnail and I".

harborwoman said, "Being from the deep south, I grew up around lots of guns. Pretty much everyone there has one...or many."

The first year or so here in Tejas, I was stunned to see signs like this 'en up all over, even at hospitals.

http://www.hurricane-katrina.org/images/photo.jpg

Now I'm used to it. Guess ya can get used to just about anything.

tt

tt: About 20 years ago those signs started popping up in bars and stores here in Ohio, too...but I ain't never seen long barrel Colt .45s in the warnings here!

Dex, that's interesting. It's been more than 20 years since I lived in Ohio. I would have never guessed.

tt

TESTY? Oh, please, Craig. We're going to have to FOIA your office to find the packages from HillBilly's campaign with this stuff in it.

She's not a nice person. Everyone knows it. What is the Yahoo front page today? He's nice - the most likable. So what does her campaign do? Grab at straws - and this is a straw - with anything even remotely suggesting he's not always 100% calm in the face of an obvious plant and then say SEE! SEE! He can be "testy" too!

Craig the only reason I read your stuff it to keep an eye on what HillBilly's campaign is really thinking. The transparency of this ridiculous - silly, really, almost comic - attempt at Clintonian Spin is yet another reason why Obama will win.

You're just as much a plant as the lady in the audience.

This is why Obama is right in taking on the DC Dem Mafia. This is why he's going to win. The voters in Iowa know authenticity when they see it, someone who's in it to win - for the right reasons - not just 'in it to win it.'

There was a Clinton book called "The Agenda." The laughable part was at the end of the day THERE WAS NO AGENDA.

So riddle me this, Batman: Why is she running? Obama's been crystal clear about it. What's her answer - in less than 10 sentences?

Otherwise, knock it off with silly crap like this and get back to being a journalist. People like you are hurting my country.