Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo, dammit.

The Jesus zinger was the best, but the "I would be glad to send Hillary to Mars" answer , relating to a manned Mars launch question also got a huge laugh.
Huckabee makes people comfortable and lays himself out there...the most transparent, likable one of the bunch, even though I don't agree with him about anything, he's transparent and honest. They could do much worse, and of course, he's got Falwell, Jr.'s endorsement.

"...Huckabee seemed to be having more fun than anyone else on stage. "

Doesn't he ever!! I posted last thread that that suckah makes me laugh even when I don't buy his Kool-Aid.
Romney makes my blood boil while I know I could have a cuppa tea with Huckabee and argue in the true tradition of me alter- ego, Waldorf the Muppet, and his adversaries.

hey...everybody and his brother knows that the republicans have the same chance bob dole had in the one before kerry.....might as well get some laughs.....

How do I get a muppet?

hmmm...reminds me of the time i was down in the Surf Club..........

I left there and went to see David Peel and the Lower East Side....but they lamped me for a southerner somehow and asked me to leave.......it could have been because i sat at a ringside table by myself, but that's too easy..........

they said i could stay if i would just sit at the bar and be quiet...so I lit up one of my 3 havanas and saw the show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqM6hMU0ugE

Public TV showed the 2007 Clapton Crossroads concert, Bill Murray the MC...Jeff Beck, Los Lobos, others...but STEVE WINWOOD was GREAT! He sang "Please Mr. Fantasy". Wow! Clapton gave props to Buddy Guy onstage, too.

sturgee...I heard from a cigar guru that a single Habana cigar, purchased in Canada, the aged, quality kind, is 50 bucks...for ONE CIGAR!

well....I just got thru with a free one.......keep it on the down low.........I dont know how to explain it but if theyre only fifty bucks, theyre cheap......

hell....you know and I know that 50 bucks is just a nickel

Massive fire will stop flow of crude oil to US...Minnesota ...be ready to ante up at the pump!!

http://www.winonadailynews.com/articles/2007/11/29/mn/03mn1129.txt

Hey, does anyone know if Falwell, Jr.'s endorsement of Huckabee carries the weight as the same would have from his late father??

how's it goin' in NOVA? Here it is so windy my piles of leaves , all ready for the leaf pick-up, are now a mile away down the street.
And the damn mailman dropped some mail for us in a mud puddle in the driveway...I found it when walking the dogs..grrrr!

God I can't believe I'm doing this, but this is what happens when you drink espresso and have a nice piece of chocolate devils food cake at 10PM.

KC:
"I have yet to see who Fry supports or doesn't support for his team...I guess he is too ashamed to say even he cannot find someone to support."

That is because you just don't pay attention. I have stated here many times who I want to see on the R ticket. Rudi-Huckabee. Now who I don't want to see on the top or bottom of the R ticket is Ron Paul.

Harborwoman, you're OK. Although I think they're flawed,.I do respect your opinions about Edwards. I believe it was Bob Shrum, the Dem consultant who just recently wrote a book, who claims that Kerry thought Edwards was a very weak candidate, and he was. As to why Kerry accepted him as his VP? I don't know why. Was Kerry told by the DNC that Edwards would be his VP or did Kerry believe he could carry the day on his own merits and his VP only served as window dressing. I just don't know.

Well it is time to make some coffee.

Huckabee mya have won the debate but handed his opponents particularly in Iowa the issue to kick him to the curb..according to gooper polling 86% of Iowa's goopers disagree with his position on immigration and sending kids to college

Rudi and Mike ---lol the sinner and the saint
the religious right has laughed at the idea that having a lamo low rent preacher would bring them to the election both if rudi is the top of the ticket
Hucksterbee should say he is willing to make rudi head of homeland security if he is president

rudi will not be the nominee

fry
only last week you were concerned with having family models for minority families and yet you support the candidate who does not have family values -- you are such a hypocrite

Where is Mrs. Huckabee -

trademark humor is all cheap shots at Democrats and evasions... I guess the media has a different sense of humor

So one of the questions at last night's debate was from a Hillary staffer? Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

false...the General is not a staffer and not as Fatass Bill Bennett sleazy fake moralist said
"a high level staffer" The General is an independent who supports both Democrats and Republicans to end "Dont ask don't tell"
He was not representing the Clinton campaign
CNN did an interview with him this morning but morniing asshole prefers to repeat the lies of fatass Bill --what do you suppose Huckabee told Bill about his diet

where is Mtrs Huckabee is she being held hostage at the golden door?

I'm not drinking the Huckaberry-flavored Kool-aid, either, but on some issues he seems too compassionate for the far't (or far-right, as some would call them). They seem to prefer that fire-n-brimstone meanstreak.

If he was to get the GOP nom, I would have to say that he might be able to pull it off, as is EQ is quite high. Once again, charm will get you pretty far.

far't (or far-right...)
brilliant

B'rye - May I pour you a glass? There's plenty for everyone.

At one point, when asked if Jesus would support the death penalty, the Baptist preacher neatly dodged the question by saying, "Jesus was too smart to ever run for public office."

So what's so "neat" about that? Is Huckabee just another hypocritical "Christian" in the Party of Death or not? Judging by his refusal to answer a legitimate question, I'd say absolutely. But what else is new in the GOP?

I watched that debate.....
and I have come to the conclusion that the best and brightest of the Republican party are sitting this election out...... all those bozos can't possibly be the best they have to give America.....

and I think I have lost all respect for CNN.....
the questions they picked were mostly to pander to the worst elements of the Republican party...... and having that creep ask about the Bible and giving that question to Romney was downright disgusting! And what was up with giving only 2 candidates a chance to answer any question..... they obviously wanted to get in as many questions as possible.... it didn't make for a very informative debate, IMO...

and that audience..... did CNN work them up or something..... it played right into what most Democrats think of Republicans right now..... a bunch of loudmouth yahoos....

the winner...... America.....
cuz it's obvious our next president will be a Democrat.....

blue,
"Once again, charm will get you pretty far."

No kidding. Bill Clinton certainly demonstrated that and Huckabee seems to be skating along nicely with it.

Renee,
I gotta agree on all points The questions were bad. Not asking each candidate each question doesn't pass the smell test. And if CNN wanted the audience to be quiet, Cooper would have said something.

apparently the "indie for Edwards" comment is on crooks and liars but I cannot find it.

Jamie....
since the end of baseball season, I've been watching KO on Countdown..... I started by watching Hardball too because it's what's on before KO and Rick and I just finished supper.....

but I couldn't stand it for long..... so I started lingering at the supper table and catching the last half hour of HB..... then I went down to catching only the last 15 minutes.....

I now put on Animal Planet for that 7-8 hour EST..... they have a show called "Growing Up" that features various sanctuaries raising baby wild animals..... last night it was a sanctuary in East Texas that specializes in rescuing Tigers....
I have come to enjoy watching television for that hour once again..... and if you're an animal lover.... I highly recommend it...

Good morning..

This is funny...

http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/opinion/walthandelsman/blog/2007/09/animation_what_they_say_what_w.html

All Right! Who was supposed to watch the children? I go to bed early, get up late and find out on the last thread that they have been swilling the champipple, carousing with all sorts of licentious goings on, and trashing the castle.

Now get over there and clean up your mess!!!!

Lush, LOL!!

OK, really,who gives a crap about who won or didn't win the debate? To me it confirmed that Giliani's a liar, Mitt wouldn't know a principled stand if it bit him in the ass, McCain is the only one of the bunch with a moral stance on torture (and no chance to win the nomination) and Huckabee neatly separates his beliefs as a Republican from his beliefs as a Christian (which is very good since they can't be reconciled). The others wereonthe stage.

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/asmussen/

gooper pageant controversy

kc, giggle, snort.

RR

Thanks for the nudge about AP. It's one of those channels I stop on while surfing and then forget to go to for a whole program. I'll give it a try for 4-5

Doots
If you are around. The electoral college initiative is doa (at least for now) Despite cheating and fraud in the gathering of signatures --the ghoul/gooper plan to grab votes did not make it.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm

RR,

"Growing up" sounds like a perfect alternative to "Hardball". You get to watch young animals progressing according to their nature, while we watch a chronological adult, Peter Pan Matthews, try to equate every politician's action to some character he's seen in a movie. That's his problem with Hillary. He can't separate her from Cruella D'vil.

Morning all. Interesting debate. That gay retired General was a mistake for CNN not to have screen before they allowed him to command the stage.

Huckabee won the night. Rudy was ok. Mitt maybe leading in some polls but I think he'll fade fast.

Although I don't contribute much to this blog I do read the various comments. Is Frydaddy your token Republican member?

actually just a Fry in the ointment.......

Dex, I just went back and caught up on last night's posts - what you said about the Confederate Battle flag - exactly. And tt, exactly. In 1963 I was 11-12 years old in B'ham. It was an ugly apogee in an ugly chapter of our history, wiht a wonderful outcome (or at least one that is still moving in that direction). 2 years later I started HS and 1 year after that Connor Vernon, Bull Conner's nephew, started HS and was on the football team with me. He never spoke about his uncle. The idiots who think the Stars and Bars stand for a great southern heritage either convenintly forget what that heritage was or endorse it - either way, the hell with them.

KGC,

that is good news thanks for the update.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Jameson
There is also ping pong
we reflect the population trends
not so many people identifying with the goopers these days. We do have a lot of purple people!

McCain on torture.

Might be wrong about this, but it wasn't that long ago after water boarding became known, I recall McCain saying he wouldn't totally tied the hands of a president and remove all means of obtaining information from a suspected terrorist if it was believed that person held knowledge of a pending attack on the US. So has he changed his opinion?

KGC - That is great news. I was a bit worried that they would get enough signatures from the red counties.

Jameson - We have a fair collection of moderates as well as proud liberals. We are really in need of a good conservative who can articulate ideas without being snarky or mean.

Fry does not qualify. He just flies in drops some inane or viscious remark that he thinks is funny followed by lol so that we will know that he was just joking about the attack, and then flies out with little to no further commentary on the issue.

Anyway, there is a "help wanted" sign out.

Look at the map: Blue=liberal; Purple=moderate; Red=conservative; and Green= third party or Environment main concern.

Jameson has a good memory
Of course mcCain has the cover of his friends John Warner and Huckleberry Graham
http://www.alternet.org/rights/42017/

they are just bushlickers and maybe because it was still before the 2006 election and before they knew Shrub had sold them out.

I backed the first man from Hope, because he is a Southern moderate comitted to education and economic growth.

I used to think that all the Southern moderates were dems, but the second man from Hope is giving me reason to reconsider.

I hope the Republicans don't get buffaloed by the pretensions of the Hilary slayers and instead offer a real choice for November.

Hucksterbee on hardball tonight
it will turn into a bash Hillary event --with Tweety praising Huckster for his ability to be the Ark attack dog and pressing the idea that he would be the ideal vp against a Hillary ticket

Tweety is such a fraud. Claiming Huck hasn't gotten indepth coverage --but he will provide none

OT, but pertinent and important to many of us...only 4 more days...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/2007-11-28-imus_N.htm

KGC

Matthews will be as happy as if someone gave him a free gift certificate to an apron wearing mommy dominatrix. He'll be able to relax and let someone else bash Hillary for a change.

Henry Hyde died. I wonder how Dr. Jekyl is feeling?

A little bit more on Imus...with mention of our illustrious leader...

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/radio/the_verdict_on_imus_matthews_wallace_crawford_say_ill_be_back_71732.asp

harborwoman

woohoo...don't get me started!!! :)

Here's the ABC Radio promo for Imus

http://www.abcradionetworks.com/Article.asp?id=363275

for those who still care about the general and his connection to the Clinton campaign - here's his interview with John Roberts.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/11/29/john.king.debate.wrap.cnn

There's no smoke there. He's a registered Independent, his name is on her GLBT steering committee, but he hasn't done any work on it and was not put up by the Clinton campaign.

Here is the web location for those who want to listen live http://www.wabcradio.com/

"but he hasn't done any work on it and was not put up by the Clinton campaign"

That won't stop the newsreaders from repeating it all day with straight off the email talking points from Republican Headquarters.

Jamie,

Thanks for posting the radio link!!

harborwoman,

Thanks for posting the list of people with and without onions!!!

IMHO, CC should be DI's first guest!!

Chapman, I'm curious - who do you believe is the 2nd moderate from Hope, 'cause the Huckster is no moderate,except in his demeanor. His tax policies in AK were regressive, he's a Chrisonazi who supports the death penalty, gun ownership and takes positions that the Savior he preaches about and the Bible he supposedly believes in condemns. He's a typical hale fellow well met Southern Baptist preacher whose idea of faith is praying and not drinking, and forget all that other stuff.

Today's Awwwwwwwwwww

San Diego Zoo's Baby Panda is now taken her first steps. Right now she is napping

http://www.sandiegozoo.org/zoo/ex_panda_station.html

jamie, I know that is true - but at least it won't go unrefuted.

Rudy soon will be only too happy to talk about his
security guards scandal just to shut this out

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0748,barrett,78478,6.html
Rudy's Ties to a Terror Sheikh
Giuliani's business contracts tie him to the man who let 9/11's mastermind escape the FBI

hey Fry how can you support a candidate who does business with our enemies -- not very patriotic if you ask me. In fact ...looks like treason

I am shocked.....shocked at your behavior
Of course I am sure you are busy checking the employers in your town to make sure they are using the ICE program.

Now Pogo afterall...the Republicans are nothing if not flexible in their defining moments

Next to some goopers, the Huckster looks reasonable -- of course one of them has to be Tom Tancredo and another James Dobson.

Is this an open forum

Is this an open forum

yes.

Lane

Very open and actually very friendly though we all tend to be political junkies so the conversations can get a bit heated, though we try to keep it reasonably polite.

pogo,
"He's a registered Independent, his name is on her GLBT steering committee, but he hasn't done any work on it and was not put up by the Clinton campaign."

Un huh, sure, sure. Keep drinkin' the kool-aid ;-)

The writers' strike is over, I wonder if Jon will be on tonight.

dnd, Do you want to tell the general he is a liar?

The Bush economic boom continues unabated.:p

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-markets-stocks.html

wow two settlements at once
the stage managers are going back to work too

jamie
I can't find anything on the writer's strike do you have a link

Jamie,
Thanks for the Imus link. I'll watch the ceremoniously last MoJo tomorrow, and then it's Imus. Can't wait for him to weigh in on the presidential campaign.

I do feel sorry for the semi-funny Willie Gueist. He's got his wagon hitched to Tucker and Scarborough so he'll probably be looking for a job soon...

Imus has endorsed McCain

Jamie...Where did you hear that the writers' strike is over? Haven't heard that yet, though I've heard that the strike that shut down Broadway and other venues is ending. Hope the writers are back, too, and that we can soon get on with all our favorite shows while the writers go forward with better contracts!

that will change after McCain's bus runs out of gas.......

kgc...That's a joke, right!?! Imus hasn't endorsed....

dnd...Willie will find work. He's the best thing on Morning Joe...I guess...I haven't watched it for quite awhile now.

"Imus has endorsed McCain"

In 2000.

Imus endorsed McCain last spring

endorsing McCain is like someone endorsing Mike Gravel....nice gesture, but what's the point.....McCain has already gotten as close to the presidency as he ever will.....

Those were his words, dnd., and while Hillary does seem to support some of the positions his org. takes, and none of the Repugs arelikely to openly support any of those positions, he's on a task force, fuhchrissakes. Actually, I think the fault, or what fault there is, lies with CNN's staff who chose the questions. And including a question from Grover Norquist? Good lord.

Okay...I suppose Imus' McCain promotions of the past are tantamount to endorsement. It'll be interesting to see where he is on presidential politics come Monday. I can't wait...I can't wait...doing a happy dance!

Imus likes McCain because McCain came on his show and kissed his ass.

Imus was raised in Arizona and McCain is a senator from AZ so it is natural for Imus to endorse McCain because of Imus's weird loyalty to his past. One must also recognize that the last several campaigns the candidates that Imus supported mostly lost. That does not bode well for McCain, not that he really has a chance anyway.

yo soy Horsedooty!

Immigration, immigration, immigration. Get this - Bushco has presided over the largest immigration influx in any 7 year period in the nations's history,more than half of it illegal. Truly all hat, no cattle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/29/us/29immig.html?hp

But no grannie has carried her coldcream onto a plane since 9/11. That has to be more important.

"Huckabee makes people comfortable and lays himself out there...the most transparent, likable one of the bunch, even though I don't agree with him about anything,...."

Me too, Dex.

tt

I could have been wrong or indulging in wishful thinking. Heard "strike settled" on background TV and thought it was the writers instead of the stage hands. Yesterday there was an offer on the writers that still has to be approved by members and I thought it had been accepted.

If anyone is looking for some nice small gifts or stocking stuffers, try The Wren's Nest in Michigan

http://www.wrenshop.com/servlet/StoreFront

Mo is an absolute jewel who gives wonderful service and really needs the business right now.

I can't wait to see and hear Craig on with Imus again!!!! It has been a long wait but it is almost over!

The MSM loves Huckabee because their readers/veiwers are BORED with Mitt & Rudy.
It's all about entertainment values & ratings.

Minimal attention is paid to policy positions, maximum attention is paid to scandals, competitive strategy, and rhetorical tricks.

This is the MSM that Rove learned to manipulate so well. They haven't learned a thing.

KC,

That rag piece of new should have been headlined. "Would've, Could've, Should've". That occurred back in 2001 and this rag is now reporting it as news. There is nothing new about it, there is no there there. See the news is Rudy didn't know, there was no way for him to know. The story, the VV dislike Rudy always have. I think you once told me you were a reporter, but certainly not an investigative reporter. Why do you hate so? Not sure I ever met anyone who harbors so much hate for people she has never known. Don't you know hate is stressful, bad for your health, tarnishes your lovely karma.

I wonder if the Plunger will take the number 2 spot on the Huckabee ticket. Oh right the Huckster would never offer it to an adulterer.

Where is Mrs. Hucksterbee?

*Oprah as a cleaning lady.
*Obama as a busboy.
*Hillary as a bartender in a lesbian bar.
(Skits being written for Imus's new show.)

pogo,
"I think the fault, or what fault there is, lies with CNN's staff who chose the questions. "

No argument there. For all of the questions.

Eyeballing the 1,074 articles so far on the debate, Huckabee wins.....Rudy looses.

tt

Interesting tidbit for Fry:

"City Said to Have Paid Bills as Giuliani Affair Began"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/29/nyregion/29campaign.html?em&ex=1196485200&en=7645a09e7c9032c9&ei=5087%0A

tt

Nice photo of Rudy in drag from HuffPo...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/

If It's Hillary vs Rudy, I hope she uses this in a campiagn ad.

Yeah fry..hate harbor here is you...especially your irrational hatred of Edwards.

"As a former NYPD captain I can state categorically that Rudy’s security detail consisted of supervisors and detectives from the NYPD Intelligence Division which falls under the Police Commissioner’s Office on the org chart. Their overtime requests were processed through the NYPD’s Payroll Management System coded for the PD.

Any other charges to other agencies were improper and were specifically designed to avoid shedding light on his extramarital affair."

Bloomberg blew the whistle on the Plunger and you just cannot admit you put your noney on a loser

...

Rudy is a looser.

tt

When is Huckabee going to ask Romney if he wears Mormon "Sacred Underwear?"

Mormon Sacred Underwear, from Google Images...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.luciferlink.org/images/munder.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.luciferlink.org/mugarments.htm&h=320&w=191&sz=39&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=h_ePGwzhlWWQaM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=70&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmormon%2Bunderwear%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

nash,
"It's all about entertainment values & ratings."

A-yup. A friend told me she thinks the reason Mitt/Rudy and Hillary/Obama are ahead in the polls is because they are the only ones who get any press coverage. And the reason they are the only ones who get press coverage is because they are flawed candidates that provide a salacious narrative for the media -- to get ratings.

CBS cancels Dem debate due to writers strike

http://www.mercurynews.com/charliemccollum/ci_7587897?nclick_check=1

and a creep.

no more from Fry now. he has to run away until he gets more messages through his tinfoil hat about how wonderful rudijudiis is

I guess loser and creep are about the same thing....but that's our Rudi......

Gee Fry..rudi didn't know...what kind of an excuse is that...he didn't know about Kerik either

I guess next you will be telling us he didn't know he was having an affiar with Judith Nathan while still married and living with his second wife.

tiptoe: The Republican field is the most miserable collection of losers I've ever seen in national politics. But this is not surprising.

The GOP "base" has devolved into a howling pack of religious fundamentalists, gun nuts and racists, people with bad teeth, criminal records, and confederate flags flying from their mobile homes.

The GOP is dead. The MSM is just keeping it alive on life-support.

Nash.....not dead enough.......

Nash, agreed....creeps & losers and looooosers.

tt

Woo-hoo. Elizabeth Edwards on Stephanie Miller tomorrow! Elizabeth Edwards for president!

Joe (Imus wannabe) Scarborough says that "the the surge is working, and this will change the whole politlcal landscape in 2008."

To echo the voices of the elementary schoolyard...
"Yeah...you WISH."

KC,

"As a former NYPD captain I can state categorically that Rudy’s security detail consisted of supervisors and detectives from the NYPD Intelligence Division which falls under the Police Commissioner’s Office on the org chart. Their overtime requests were processed through the NYPD’s Payroll Management System coded for the PD.

Any other charges to other agencies were improper and were specifically designed to avoid shedding light on his extramarital affair."

Was Rudy the mayor? Yes. Did he receive death threats while mayor? Yes. As mayor was he authorized to have a NYCPD to provide security? Yes. This is such a no nothing story, but you KC keep on hoping. Hate is really bad for you kathrine. You really should try to lighten up a bit.

I don't hate Edwards, that is what you Far left Liberal fringe would like to believe when someone dares to ridicule one of your many flawed heroes. But come January Edwards will be out of the picture.

nash,
"The GOP is dead."
I think the party of Reagan, Bush, Newt, etc. is dead. But the tremendous support for Ron Paul leads me to believe that the party of Goldwater is making a comeback.

When is Huckabee going to ask Romney about whether he wears "Mormon Scared Underwear?"

If you want to see what this stuff looks like, just go to Google Images and type "Mormon underwear" in the search block.

(And I thought us Catholics had to put up with some weird crap.)

Seems there are still some problems with nuclear power ... Perry Plant in Ohio emergency shut down

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/newstex/AFX-0013-21313275.htm

Nash,

Aren't you a Liberal?

no one is denying the plunger's right to have secuirty...they are talking about his hiding the ot expense so his affair would not become public and illegally charging other agenceis with the expense.

blah blah blah...the same old excuse Rudy didnt know..... Rudy the 9/11 mulitmillionaire who has given ZERO to any 9/11 charity. A BIG FAT ZERO in donations to 9/11 charities.

Fry are you a member of the Klan?

KGC....
you've really made me laugh today..... thanks....

Nash..... oh come on..... everyone knows we New Englanders need long underwear at this time of year.....
what do you mean he wears it in July too...... oh never mind....

fry.... but come January 09 the entire GOP will be out of the picture......

KC,
Fry are you a member of the Klan?

See Kathrine, I knew you wouldn't disappoint, you always stoop to the lowest denominator. Why do you hate so?

RR,

Trust me Potter, Edwards is through in January. 3rd in Iowa, 4th in NH, 3rd in SC.

Fry...............righteous indignation?

"you always stoop to the lowest denominator.
fry

Only when Im trying to argue on your level.

And I see you are evading my question by attacking it?

Did you know your candidate supports the flying of the confederate flag as a states right? Or is that why you support him?

http://majorityinms.com/2007/04/11/rudy-and-the-rebel-flag/ link for Rudy and the Rebels

Jamie -- I'm going to check out wrenshop....meanwhile, I'll invite you all to visit my little shop on Cafe Press...."Jesus Was a Liberal" cups, etc....

http://www.cafepress.com/shopliberally

KC,

Protection details are protection details. If Rudy would have gone to Hawaii or Philadelphia, his protection detail would have gone along. So it makes no difference if he goes to the Hamptons, it doesn't matter if he is have an affair in the Hamptons, his security detail would go along to provide protection. They will be paid 24/7 no matter where Rudy went. So this silly notion about hiding the billing records for the protection detail it just doesn't make any sense. What would matter if the protection detail was ordered by Rudy to provide protection to his then paramour.

well then fry why did he hide them?

Why did Bloomberg order the investigation?

Are you saying the Politico and Drudge made this up?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/7073.html

read the article and then correct your many factual misstatements

so Fry doesn't have a problem with Rudi the Adulterer but he has a problem with Edward's hair cuts??????? Reckon if Huckleberry will run on the same ticket with a serial Adulterer?

yo soy Horsedooty!

I think we should now call it the GOPR
it stands for "getting out of personal responsibilities"....

fry.... so what..... I'm not an Edwards supporter....
but then if you've been actually reading this blog.... you would've known that......

"So this silly notion about hiding the billing records for the protection detail it just doesn't make any sense" Fry

Are you being deliberately stupid?

He was hiding the destinations. As you can see he had no official business. At the time his affiar was not public. Get a gripe. Your guy is a sleazy creep who will say and do anything to get elected.

or do you like that. Do you have a poster of the Confederate flag in your bedroom?

Let me inject a bit of reality check into your discussion Fry. Would you be so willing to protect the mayor of New York, who was allowing the city of New York to pay the bills for his security while he was having an extramarital affair.

Even if he was fully justified in charging the expenses, is it really good judgment to hide the expenses in the budgets of departments that had nothing to do with the "official" reason for his travel?

If this were Bill Clinton or JFK as mayor, would you be so willing to defend the practice?

I would like a yes or no answer to those questions if you chose to address them.

To many times we are willing to condone behavior done by those candidates we like while excoriating the exact same behavior from those we dislike. Where do you stand?

Craig, can we get an edit button to correct typos?

Patsi,

Your shop is interesting. I'll look through the products later

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Fry: You asked me if I'm a liberal. Hell, no. I'm a left-wing commie pinko radical. And I say, if Romney is wearing funny underwear, all the right-wing Christian fundamentalists that he's sucking up to ought to know about it. You can be sure that one of his GOP opponents will use this against him eventually. My money is on ratbag Rudy.

By the way, are you a conservative? (Since you seem to support Rudy's adultery and theft of government funds.)

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Rudy: serial adulturer, frequent transvestite, actually handled 9/11 rather poorly, makes big business deals with terrorist-funding foreigners. Used to be a liberal.

Romney: ran the most corrupt Olympics of modern times, wears sacred underwear, tacitly supports polygamy in southern Utah. Used to be a liberal.

Huckabee: one of the most corrupt governors of a southern state (and that's not easy to achieve), former preacher who couldn't keep his hands off the choir girls or out of the till, used to be fat until he discovered crystal meth.

McCain: confessed to war crimes under torture (so it must have been true.) Got swiftboated by Bush/Rove in 2000, spent the next 7 years kissing their asses. Didn't work. The right-wingsstill hates him. (But Imus loves him so he ain't dead yet.)

Bear. I would say well Bill Clinton did it, when he was both a governor and president, or JFK did it, but then I would be like KC or Jamie answering a question with another question. So since I can type and chew gum at the same time I'll answer your question. First your premise is wrong. Like the governors of most states they have a 24/7 protection detail. Like a number of mayor in the larger cities they too have a 24/7 protection detail. They go where the principal goes, they don't have a say in what he does, they don't care what he does. Their only responsibility his to protect him. So it doesn't matter if it is Bill Clinton and the US Secret Service, Rudy and NYCPD, or Arnold and CHIPS, the protection detail stays with the principal. As to hiding the billing. Not sure how that would work, or what would be accomplished by hiding the records. the protection detail has to be paid. Rudy doesn't control the NYCPD, that falls under the NYC Police Commissioner, and it further falls under the person who heads up the detail. Each member of the detail completes their own travel voucher,(consisting of times, hotels, destinations, meals etc), they are then submitted on a individual basis within a short time frame. No one, certainly not me, is condoning extramarital affairs, but that isn't what this is about. And KC, you can't hide a protection detail, they are standing sitting all over the place. Just guessing but I would think Rudy's protection detail consisted of at least 25 people. Again Bear this not something that wasn't known, this is something that just hit the MSM.

I do not understand the Jesus comment. Is Huckabee saying that Jesus would oppose the death penalty, and that's why he wouldn't want to hold public office, where he would have to support it for political viability reasons? Is Huckabee saying that's the only reason he supports it? I like Huckabee's humor, but sometimes he comes off as a little too flip -- there are plenty of religious people to whom a flip phrase like "Jesus was too smart to run for public office" will catch in the throat.

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