Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

I noticed that when Chris MAtthews mentioned Ron Paul and the hookers, he omitted Tucker's connection....

I'm sorry, but one Streisand does not equal one Oprah unless you have a time machine that travels back to the 70s. The Clinton's need some new friends. Maybe Chelsea knows someone.

Oh, here we go: Musharraf hands in his military duds.

Hey, maybe the candidates should actually discuss foreign policy or something.

ask oprah, obama, and hillary what they think of this:

http://consortiumnews.com/2007/112707.html

Craig,

It might help if the media pretended as if Edwards even existed. For the past three days, he couldn't get coverage with a blanket. You can't call for him to be involved if the cable guys can't find his address. Why was there little to no follow up to an excellent Sunday morning appearance?

The stations like the simplicity of the horse race and no one is paying any attention to the show horse. Someone should remind them that coming around the turn the front runners often wear each other out and the final winner is the nag that was eating their dust.

Joanne Bamberger on Oprah/Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-bamberger/oprah-and-obama_b_74260.html

gee Craig....
I hear a lot of people saying this is the most important election in their lifetime.... and all the media can do is focus on dirty tricks..... then y'all wonder why so many people are turned off to politics.....

After reading all of you guys posts from last night..... I agree with Brian on the Obama/Oprah thing..... it might not make much of a difference in Iowa.... but I bet it'll make one here in NH....voting in a primary is easy and takes only a few minutes.... and IMO, Brian is right about Obama owning the media at the moment....

Craig.... I did see your appearance on Abram's last night.....
seems like you got your talking points straight from KGC.... not that that is a bad thing.... I simply disagree....

oh yeah..... and I love that shirt/tie combination....

mornin' all.

Well, the rats keep leaving the S.S. Bushco - this time it's Al Hubbard.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Bush-Economic-Adviser.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

And while my mother would have liked Barbra, even she would be swayed more by Oprah.

Hey Renee,
I plan to see the Obama/Oprah event coming up- I 'll let you know how it went. Michelle Obama is coming here next week for the first time- things are really starting to get busy.

The key thing about Oprah's effect, is that everyone feels they know her. People here have criticized her for many things, which may be true or not. But the reality is she has a very big audience that respects her, and I mean audience that goes beyond regular viewership.

Someone mentioned earlier that Oprah has never been interested in politics. I think a more accurate statement is that she has never openly gotten involved in politics. If you have read her magazine regularly- and I have- in the past couple of years I remember she has had in depth interviews one one one with Bono, Obama, Jon Stewart, Nelson Mandela, Bill Clinton and Condoleeza Rice. She has had many shows on racism and the failures of New Orleans and on the start of the war. Now, I don't mean that she is 100% into politics, but she clearly is a very intelligent, committed influential person and not the lightweight some are implying her to be.

The sooner the Clintons get put out to pasture the better for America. Streisand is as polarizing as the Dragon Lady so I don't see that doing the junior senator ffrom NY any good. She Hillary, is "fatally flawed" and she can't get over that. Goooo Oprah.....

And as we face another barrage by the yammerers of entertainment ... A sturgeone suggestion from last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhnRuJBHLs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg

Agreed that the media is giving Edwards very little meaningful coverage. That's a shame, too, because he has a good message. I'm still supporting Hillary, but do love Edwards. Likewise Bill Richardson. I just wish Bill was a better campaigner. Too bad our presidents now have to practically be rock stars.

Anyone hear Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer talking about energy on Bill Press's show this morning? I've been following him since his 2004 run and REALLY like his style. Also love his background....check him out on Montana's website.

Hey, does anyone know when Stephanie Miller's show airs on Sirius if it still does - she has gotten bumped by the Make it Plain show and I miss her deeply.

Craig got a mention in the Stephanie opening. They like him. He's chuckly. Also needs to learn how to breathe. He's so used to trying to get so much info in fast before interruptions that he runs out of air.

Pogo,
You can hear Stephanie Miller online at stephaniemiller.com
or
http://www.am1090seattle.com/
and I assume other station that carry her and have streaming audio.

Morning peeps,
Agreed that it would good for Hillary if Edwards were more in the dumping on her mix. But not sure it would be good for him. Let Hillary and Obama duke it out for a while, Edwards can pickup the fall out.

Pogo

I listen to her on the net at http://www.am1090seattle.com/ 6-9 Pacific

You can look up the nationwide schedule at

http://www.stephaniemiller.com and if not in your area, you can get paid podcasts.

Craig, I do agree with you that Hillary would benefit from a higher profile of the Edwards campaign. It's always good to have your opposition split, and I believe that Edwards probably draws more support from those who would support Obama than those who would support Hillary. But I do have to agree with kgc - the rubber meets the road on Super Tuesday or whatever they're calling it these days, and while I do not believe that Obama will win win both IA and NH, Hillary's electoral world will not end if he does. (Sorry Bri, but I'm not seeing any signs of JE's star rising even in Iowa, his new home state, where his numbers have dropped about 14 points on average in the past year). Better than double digit leads (16-30%) in NY, FL, CA, SC AND NH and a fuhchrissake 25 point lead in MI - where we should expect Obama to be strong, right? (he does have a 4 point lead in ARG's latest IL poll, but isn't that his home state, where he won a statewide election?) - will be hard to overcome, Iowa be damned. If anyone wonders (or cares) why I share kgc's opinion about the limited impact Oprah will have, this is why.

the point isn't whether Oprah has impact, but how manytimes can you announce her endorsement -this is at least the third major roll out -and expect that it will still have impact. I think Oprah made him a rock star last fall and made him a contender --
but we had the same flap when she had the fundraiser. I think she does have impact but it has happened, Anyone who is supporting Obama because of Oprah already is.,..no new people are coming in now and I think the risks a great for someone to ask her a question about Obama's positions that could be a problem.

I think Edwards is in good shape in Iowa --being everyone's second choice is a good place to be.
the media for the most part suck

Pogo,

It looks like a total cancellation. Here's a protest site
with news about the change

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/285/RipOff0285245.htm

Jamie, thanks - I e-mailed the show to see if they've been dropped or rescheduled. We have a streaming audio filter at work - which is when I would listen if I ain't in the car, I hate to pay for more radio when I'm already paying for Sirius, plus I don't know what a podcast is (he says a litlle embarrased).

Pogo,

If you Google "Sirius Stephanie Miller" all sorts of stuff pops up. The cancellation happened on the 21st and is causing quite a stir.

RE Oprah's rollout of Obama: a lot of people are just beginning to focus on the primaries, since we're so close.

Face it, we are political junkies and probably less representative of the population.

PS: welcome Skylark. The poster, not the Buick.

jamie, you're my hero - I can get it through the am 1090 link (sneaking through the filter) - at least on my loaner machine.

Oprah has been promoting Obama to her audience for over a year. I think you have to be an Oprah fan to be impacted -- and I think they all know where she stands.
On the other hand, over thanksgiving I talked to a young woman with two young children and she is a Clinton fan because of the idea of a first woman president and nothing will move her from that...
not Oprah and not Obama.

Interesting - Sirius site doesn't have the ubiquitous "Contact Us" button for me to register my complaint about the substitution.

I think a lot of Democratic women were turned off to Oprah when she pandered to Schwarzengger during the recall. She claimed it was because of her friendship with Maria and then her softball interview with Shurb.......i

Obama missed his chance, early on, to differentiate himself from Hillary on substantive issues. Now the contest has degenerated into silly attacks. I don't think people are going to vote for Obama on the vague hope that he may be different from Hillary.

Edwards had his chance in 2004, and let the Republicans swiftboat Kerry with hardly a peep of protest. "Kerry wouldn't me speak out," he now says. This is NOT a profile in courage. The VP candidate is supposed to be an attack dog. Someone should have told Edwards that. That's why no one gives a damn what he says today.

ps
I think the Clinton' should leave bill at home for awhile ...his campaign appearances are proving to be dangerous because every statement he makes gets parsed....will the media treat Oprah the same way...

Oprah do you support driver's licenses for undocumented workers? Let me know when someone aks her that question and I will believe Obama is getting the same treatment from the media that Clinton does.

KGC,
"On the other hand, over thanksgiving I talked to a young woman with two young children and she is a Clinton fan because of the idea of a first woman president and nothing will move her from that..."

Did you ask her if the first woman president sending her young kids to fight in Iraq was something that would move her?

According to Morning Joe, today, EVERYONE supported the Iraq war in 2003. So WE ARE ALL TO BLAME. (So stop picking on George and Dick.)

Damn. It's my fault. Thanks Joe, for pointing that out.

KGC: Bill Clinton has a few image problems, but compared to the horrible outrages the Republicans have committed for the last 7 years, screwing an intern and lying about it is a minor infraction.

The Clinton presidency was one of peace and prosperity. That's why he is still VERY popular. He's one fo the few politicians I would actually want to meet, if he ever comes to Maine again.

dnd
I didn't ask her that...but I don't think it would have mattered. Her hisband is leaning to obama but not a single person mentioned the war. It was pretty interesting as a group we had one obama, one clinton, one edwards and two undecided (but I think leaning to Edwards)
The person I have learned not to like during this campaign is Dodd.

dnd: No matter what the Dem candidates SAY, as soon as one of them takes office, U.S. troops would be out of Iraq in six months or less.

"Face it, we are political junkies and probably less representative of the population."

dog..... you nailed it!

KGC.... if everyone's mind is already made up concerning who they intend to vote for in Iowa and NH, then why are the candidates still spending lots of $$$ and time campaigning in those states?..... and why are you still paying attention to the polls since you think it's all set in stone?

I do think it's silly to think that Oprah will sell a candiate the same way she sells books...... but saying she has no more impact is just as silly, IMO....

her going out on the stump for Obama will generate front page headlines...... I'm not saying this will get him a win in the NH Democratic primary.... but to say it will have no influence is to be in complete denial of human nature, IMO....

That's not what I said... i said anyone who would be influenced by Oprah already has been....the Obama campaign keeps rolling out her endorsement like those time square stores that are always going out out business.

and speaking of polls
this is proof that msgop is dishonest and trying to trash Clinton.
A tale of two polls
By: Steve Benen on Tuesday, November 27th, 2007 at 6:04 PM - PST Most political observers know to stop reading when they see the phrase, “According to a poll from Zogby Interactive…” and yet, yesterday, I couldn’t believe the commotion caused by a poll that obviously didn’t make any sense.

About 24 hours ago, two polls came out — a Zogby Interactive poll (with questionable methodology) showing Hillary Clinton struggling against the top GOP candidates, and a Gallup poll (with more reliable methodology) showing the opposite. Guess which one got too much attention?

While the Zogby poll was mentioned by multiple reporters and pundits, the only mentions the Gallup poll got on TV were from Hillary advisers who had to bring it up themselves on the air in order to inject it into the conversation.

Of course, every political reporter, editor, and producer in the country knew that Zogby Interactive results were unreliable, but they trumpeted the results anyway.

Wouldn’t responsible journalism require news outlets to a) note why professional pollsters discount Zogby Interactive data; and b) also highlight the Gallup numbers with equal enthusiasm?

nash, maybe GHWB will invite him up there so you can drop by to say hi. :-)

And I agree with you, even with respect to HIllary, notwithstanding Obama's allegations to the contrary, troop withdrawals will not be far behind the swearing in.

link for the poll story from crooks and liars
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/27/a-tale-of-two-polls/

KGC....
BTW..... I could tell you similar stories about how someone will support their chosen candidate no matter what for all the candidates.... so what....

the fact is that here in NH, independents far outnumber registered Repubs and Dems put together...... and a lot of them don't make up their minds until the last minute.....

Yes when MoJoe came out with "EVERYONE supported " I almost gagged. I never knew that my screeching at every political figure and voter I knew that the United States did not do Preemptive Invasions and Bush was a psychopath was actually an endorsement of the war.

Of course MoJo had Zogby on to defend his results and poo poo the criticism from the other pollsters about Zogby's misses in '06, claiming he nailed it in '04, even down to the state level, within like 1/2% or something stupid like that.

rr
again missing the point. The supposed value of Oprah is to win away the women's vote. I don't think she will be able to do that...

KGC,
"Of course, every political reporter, editor, and producer in the country knew that Zogby Interactive results were unreliable, but they trumpeted the results anyway."

The "unreliability" of the Zogby poll was pushed by the Clinton campaign when it showed her numbers are bad. What wasn't reported is that the Clinton's have used the Zogby interactive polls for years when it favored them.

ps. turns out in the past, the Zogby interactive polls were accurate.

Nash I'm not sure I can agree with you that no matter what Dem is elected the troops will be pulled out in 6 months. Sorry but Hillary's stance on ending the war reminds me a tad too much of Nixon's in '68. And we all knew what happened then, Nixon got out of Vietnam when it best suited his political agenda.

"i said anyone who would be influenced by Oprah already has been"....

ok.... fair enough..... but I don't see why you think that about Oprah and yet feel differently about the candidates.....
why do you think the candidates will continue to influence people about voting for them, but Oprah can't convince anyone else to vote for Obama?.....

unfortunately..... I think most people are sheeple..... and can be lead to another pasture.....

I don't watch Oprah, so can someone tell me the specifics of why she supports him?

I hope her judgment is better than it was with James Frey.

rr
According to some reports people in both Iowa and NH often do not make up their minds until the last minute. I think in Iowa -- people need to be gathered up and delivered to the caucus and whomever has the best organization will win.
NH is different. NH seems to depend on where the indies will go. If as predicted they are going to vote Democratic --aren't independents in NH mostly moderates?

I'm with you on this one Renee, also what KC refuses to acknowledge is that Oprah helps Obama to dominate the news cycle. A lot of Hillary's support is driven by the fact that people assume she is going to win. If it looks like someone else is going to win a lot of people will shift their support according. Nothing is more seductive than the smell of victory.

Barbra Streisand...is that a joke?
Talk about a mismatch... Since when does this vapid 1970s dilettante share any of her leftwing dogma with the calculating Hillary Clinton?
Matt Thomas

KGC...
I don't see this as an all or nothing stance....

will Oprah get all women to change their minds..... I don't think so.... will Oprah get some women to change their minds..... yup, I do think that.....

if the primary here in NH is close between Clinton and Obama that might make a difference.....
if the primary is a run away by Clinton.... then you're right.... Oprah's influence won't mean a thing.....

it'll be interesting to see what happens.....

rr

I'm not sure any campaigning done now is helpful.
People in Iowa have said they just tune out the ads

Hucksterbee has stated he thinks the Christmas holiday helps him because it gives candidates with less resources help by reducing the time people are paying attention.

I don't care about the Clintons --the zogby on line poll sucks and supposed journos know that and for tweety to use it and not cite the other polls is just another demonstration of what dishonest git he is. I loved Jamie's link the other day "Matthews the worst interviewer."

Matt,
Streisand vs. Oprah is like Mothra vs. Godzilla. No contest.

Oprah will have to be more engaged on the trail than she is on her show to win any new voters. I was with a group of celebs at her show and she never said a word to them unless the cameras were rolling. Didn't even stop by the dressing room to say hello, despite the fact that it was a show she put together and no celeb had a product or movie to promote. It was very weird.

Also, speaking of Bill Clinton's misadventure....I knew what his parsing meant from the word "is" and what it meant. I've been around enough musicians (and a few other very public men) to know that they truly believe a BJ is no problem...as they all say, "eatin' ain't cheatin'"... and they believe it.

I disgree with Brian on people supporting her because she is inevitable...a lot of people support her because of who she is. (the good and the bad)

I suggest to look at Ed Rendalls primary race against Bob Casey jr.

dnd, I'd love to see a grid of the final poll results from the major organizations for the last couple of elections and the election results to see whether Gallup or Zogby is right about the accuracy of their polls. I'm guessing such a grid exists - have any idea where one might find such a thing?

KC you better inform the Clinton people of that, they seem rather vested in the inevitability of Hillary.

KGC....
ahhhh..... that is where you and I think differently.... I think the campaigning done now does make a difference..... advertising works..... that's why everyone spends the big $$$$$ to do it.... and I don't pay attention to what people say..... I pay attention to what people do.....

and yes.... most indies in this state are moderates.....

I'm not paying attention to any of the polls.....
with the invention of caller ID, I question who is answering the phone and answering the pollsters....
I have answered a few, but as I said yesterday, have decided to stop..... the only people I know who pick up their phone religiously are the elderly.....
not that what they say isn't important..... but one demographic doesn't make for a very broad view, IMO...

Patsi, I submit to you that if Mrs. P is any indication, those mens' opinion is not shared by their wives, who probably would say "eatin' is cheatin'". Mrs. P has discussed it in terms of my balls and a knife.

I would have to agree with Jamie. If the media were even remotely doing their job, then they would know that Edwards is the candidate that many democrats and even many independents (who ACTUALLY vote) want as their candidate. The media's failure to dismiss Edwards as the most viable candidate is beyond reproachable. It is unfortunate that all they can cover is the horse race and not the true issues and candidates that should be driving this entire race. Shame on you and shame on the rest of the media who are too lazy to do their job.

Brian
well the world loves a winner especially the media
and they all have applauded the bravado of Shrub
so why wouldn't she act like a winner....such a silly argument.

Apparently dead people can participate in politics as long as they do not vote
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-27-DeadDonors_N.htm

pogo,
"have any idea where one might find such a thing?"
Nope. But I think you have a good idea.

My observation is that pols use polls when is suits them and disses them when it doesn't.

dnd
there is more than one zogby poll...we are talking about the free on line poll....not his private polling which is more accurate. I do know in 2006, the on line poll used the same math as KKKarl Rove....who is now trying to get his own history,

so are obama and clinton the Dean, Gephardts and will Edwards end up carrying the day,

I worked on one campaign that took place over the holidays. It was a struggle. The direct mail all got lost in holiday mail. A lot of people are on vacation, at parties or shopping or passed out from eating, drinking and too much party. So figuring out media buys is hard because people are not on their regular schedules.

Breaking news - Condi says that the Iddle East leaders shaking hands yesterday shows that there is a good chance of success for the talks. puhlease.

" Mrs. P has discussed it in terms of my balls and a knife."

HA! Good for Mrs.P -- I also subscribe to her philosophy...but I guarantee that there are a lot of celeb males who believe that line....maybe the wives or SO's should add this final part to the saying, "...but it'll get you a beatin'."

Acting like a winner and being arrogant and hubris filled is not exactly the same thing KC.

dnd - I don't know about the '04 poll and results, but Pollster.com does have the '06 results and polls taken. Doing a wholly unscientific sampling of a few of the major races, I don't give either Zogby or Zogby Interactive very high scores. In the races I looked at, they tended to be further away from the results than most other more "traditional" polling orgs and leaned republican, underestimating the democratic margin or incorrectly picking the rep. candidate in close races. Still looking at those results and still open to changing my opinion, though.

Then again, they did pretty much nail the Webb/Allen race and the Cardin/Steele race, so who can tell?

pogo,
It'd be interesting to rate the polls on how accurate they were as a function of time from the actual election. I also would like to know the precision of each of the polls when one would compare them.

Pogo,

That sounds about right for Zogby. It is pretty well known that they trend right. Not wildly, but enough to consider those leanings when viewing their results.

Here you go: National Council on Public Polls

http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/101

Gives poll accuracy 1936 - 2000 with updates through 2004

I did find a multivariate analysis done in 2002 (which is now essentially worthless) looking at Zogby Interactive and Survey USA finding that they performed at about the same level as other nonpartisan polls back then. Best I could do.

here is an article about waterboarding. John Ashcroft has said he would undergo it to prove it is not torture.

Line forms to the right to watch this happen. See me for tickets.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/ashcroft-waterboarded/

yo soy Horsedooty!

"See me for tickets."
Horsedooty

I'll take two down front

Can I sell popcorn while we watch? I'll make a fortune!

(jumpin' up and down like a poodle).... dooty..... me me... can I have a ticket.... please..... :)

here's an article about Romney's mormonism hurting him in Iowa.....
sorry Zoey.... but are Iowa Republicans really that shallow?

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/us/politics/28repubs.html&OQ=_rQ3D2Q26orefQ3Dslogin&OP=47e75a89Q2FNxcUNDQ51Q5CqrQ51Q51Q27TNTQ5BQ5B)NllNTQ23N5qN7Q513iQ27iQ5CqNTQ23rc75UqopQ27g3

Chuck Norris, now Jerry Falwell Jr. Huckabee better start measuring the oval office new drapes!

but are Iowa Republicans really that shallow?

only the evangelicals..,it certainly would explain the inexplicable rise of the Huckster...some Evangelicals think of Mormons have more in common with Scientologists than born again Christians,

Jamie rushes in. Grabs a batch of tickets. Oh boy, oh boy ... Scalping this babies will bring in a budle.

I'll take 2 tickets. 1 for me and 1 for Chuck Norris.

ok we have a popcorn concession and a demand for tickets now we need a venue. Any suggestions? Madison Square Gardens perhaps?

yo soy Horsedooty!

Huckabee's rise isn't inexplicable, I've been predicting it for at least two months.

Doots,
Will Janet Reno be performing the waterboarding on Ashcroft?

How about Sea World in San Diego , Doots?

"Will Janet Reno be performing the waterboarding on Ashcroft?"

Kinky, I like it!

Brian
"I've been predicting it for two months" Brian

Hucksterbee is a media fraud like Steele and Keane
on caucus day --he won't be a contender. I was kidding about the inexplicable,,,the explanation is he is willing to say or do anything to get on tv

I hope someone asks Mrs. Huckabee about formerly fatboy's advice to fat Americans.

Jamie,
"It might help if the media pretended as if Edwards even existed"

He does exist just look at the polls. He is either listed 3rd of 4th. Your a horse racing nut, how much money do you win for coming in 4th? Go with a winner, go with Hillary. Favorable rating among Dems: Hillary 77%, Obama 66%, PB Edwards 43%.

Democratic Presidential Nomination:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Clinton 42.7%
Obama 21.8%
Edwards 12.2% WOW!!!!

KC everything that happens that you don't like you tend to blame on the press! Huckabee is the only place the ChristoFascist have to turn, it's not rocket science.

FD, About that reading for comprehension problem. I was specifically talking about recent media coverage of Oprah/Obama not favorability ratings; plus you seem to be a bit out of date since the polls are virtually tied.

FD, Those are National. Iowa is

27.6 Clinton 25.8 Obama 22.2 Edwards

All are within margin of error

Brian
the media has given the Huckster credibility --even
the Christofasciss like to go with a winner
I do think it is ironic that tweety- who is a huckster pimp big time- blamed the liberal media for giving him coverage. If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say, the Huckster is getting money from the Plunger's supporters in Iowa.

Iowa Democratic Caucus

Back in March of this year Edwards was the front runner in Iowa with 31.3%. Since then he has slipped to 22.2%, and is currently in 3rd place. Given the fact Edwards has been campaigning in Iowa for what seems like decades, how do you explain his low numbers?

*hums "Blame it on the Bosa Nova*

fry
I am eagerly awaiting your letter to the various nc industry such as tyson and perdue that they are part of the ICE program not putting their full faith and effort in to confirming employees status.

Again I'll ask. 4th place pays what? I predict Richardson is coming on and will over take Edwards in Iowa. According to Richardson this morning on MoJo, he is in 3rd place in NH. I reported this small over looked fact yesterday to all you non-believers. So if Richardson is in 3rd pace where does that put Edwards? Let me spell it out for you, F O U R T H. The also ran, the no money honey position, the oh yea him position, has he crossed the finish line yet position. Oh Jamie I have been to the tracks and witnessed the betters tearing up their win tickets into small jagged little pieces, throwing them skyward, screaming and shaking their fists to the heavens because their lock, the sure shot, the golden boy, lost. Edwards will lose. In this case the fault is not with the jockey, it is with the horse. Some kind soul Dem should lead this horse to pasture.

gee fry what about this poll
It’s interesting that the MSM and many voters believe that John Edwards is consistently in third place. Thanks goodness the Iowa voters don’t listen to the MSM and the third place believers. John Edwards has scored first place by Iowa voter.

From Chris Martyn at Iowa Independent
http://www.bluebloggin.com/2007/11/16/edwards-tops-iowa-independent-democratic-power-rankings/

Oh KC, polls polls polls. What are we to make of them all? They are so meaningless at this point in time. I am glad to know you are still riding that Edwards ticket, it does show a certain quality about you. But let me ask you a serious question. Out of all the Dems running, who would you not want to see become the Dem nominee?

Fry,
At 12:49 you said:
"Back in March of this year Edwards was the front runner in Iowa with 31.3%. Since then he has slipped to 22.2%, and is currently in 3rd place."

At 1:23 you said:
"polls polls polls. What are we to make of them all? They are so meaningless at this point in time."

Ok, which one is it? Do they mean something or not?

Sr. Dooty: re Ashcroft waterboarding tickets:

I will take 2 tickets plz, spray range seating.

Will supply my own earplugs in event any of his Singing Senator Colleagues show as an opening act.

Apparently a NEW THREAD.

RE Waiting for Ted.

The politician or the lowcost airline? Title apropos for both.