The Associated Press/Yahoo poll's answer for that is a good news/bad news scenario for the Obama campaign.
On the one hand, the poll found 53 percent of Clinton supporters in April now support Obama for president - a big improvement from then, when only 40 percent of them backed Obama over John McCain.
On the other hand, almost a quarter - 23 percent - of those Clinton supporters now pick McCain over Obama. Sixteen percent are undecided, 5 percent support Ralph Nader and 3 percent said someone else.
The margin of error is +/- 2.3 percentage points. After tonight and tomorrow's joint Clinton/Obama appearances, it will be interesting to see if loyalties shift again.
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The hard-core Hillary supporters are political animals, unlike those who are hard-core democrats first (regardless of who it is so long as he/she is a democrat).
While I am a life-long democrat and have always supported the nominee for president, I am a feminist democrat who worked hard in the 70's and 80's on women's issues. I was elected a delegate in the 80's the Democratic National Convention. To see the DNC, the leadership in the Democratic Party support Senator Obama, shamelessly, openly, even though they said they were "unannounced", even "uncommitted" in some cases in which it was obvious - Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, etc., was the most disillusioning thing about the primary season. The utter desertions from the Clintons' was incredible.
Also, the DNC's 50-state strategy was tailor-made for Senator Obama along with SC Rep. James Clyburn using his influence to have the DNC "front-load" the Primary Season with states and caucuses favorable to Obama with Clyburn and Brazile being the most vocal with the race-baiting and keeping A-A's in line. This was part of their strategy to keep the A-A's angry and disillusioned with the Clintons'. It worked! There is no way I could in good conscience vote for a candidate that I consider illegitimate, particularly where the caucus states are concerned. Obama won all the caucuses except NV and received 207 delegates from all the caucus states - the number of delegates he needed to beat Hillary. Caucuses are very undemocratic, unrepresentative, and in Obama's case were organized online by Move-On.Org that sent their thug representatives to the meetings and instructed them to "take them over". In the end the non-traditional democratic states (republican states) had more power than the traditional blue states where delegate count was concerned. Hillary won all the big states, swing states, the blue-color voters, the women voters over 50. Had more votes, yet, Obama won with states they are now trying to say democrats CAN win - a justification of the 50-state strategy, I assume. For more on this, go to 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?V-EmikfM4TqAM
and 2) www.talkleft.com/media/caucusjune2rev.pdf
The most agregious parts were 1) the DNC and Democratic Leaders working behind the scenes hand and glove with the Obama Campaign to insure his victory. 2) the news media that is still denying sexism, using women to say they did not see it either. The women used in the media to say, "no sexism" are not feminists and usually have Obama bias. They have made it and as so often happens, have become part of the good o'le boy's system usually not mentoring or taking other women with them. Women don't usually play a role when other women break through the glass ceiling. They, like the men who often gauge their comments by women like these, don't even understand what sexism is - it is blatant disrespect and there was plenty of that for both Clintons'. It was 24/7 on MSNBC and not much better on CNN. Naturally these two cable stations are not going to fess'up to such mischief.
No way will I vote for this very ill-prepared candidate and give all of the above the pass they are hoping for. I WILL vote for John McCain (first republican on a state or national level I will have ever voted for). I'm politically savvy enough to know that voting for one of the 3rd party people does nothing nor will writing in Hillary's name make any difference. Voting for the republican WILL make a difference. There is NOTHING Obama can do or say to women like me that will ever be satisfactory. No one can undo the incredible damage that has been done to the nominating process. You don't ever hear this explained. Everyone in the media including female democratic strategists always says women like me have no where to go but Obama because JMc does not support the things I'm interested in. I'm insulted that they think they have to lecture me on this. It matters not. It isn't just losing, the grief process, or any of the other things they all try to make everyone buy into. Since having reproductive freedom and many other women's rights does not seem to matter to younger women who voted for Obama, they can re-fight the women's movement which was a REAL movement. I couldn't care less. Neither do I care if a President McCain has the opportunity to appoint 3 Supreme Court Judges. It is more important to me to stand up to the Democratic Party and say "No Way!"
Posted by: FranSC
| June 30, 2008 12:48 PM
One important thing I failed to say is, Hillary telling women like me to 'vote for Obama' will fall on deaf ears. We know Hillary and Bill Clinton will have to do what they are doing - might as well have a gun to her head, unless she wants to be, as one put it, 'a dead-woman ('man' - as they put it) walking'.
No one has sufficiently explained this to my satisfaction. I'm sure there are varying reasons, but I am sick of hearing how "hurt" we are, how it just "takes time", how we will have to go through "the four stages of grief", how there is "no way John McCain supports our interests", and the most maddening is "Once they know where JMc stands on these issues, they will fly over to Obama." Just watch!
Posted by: FranSC
| June 30, 2008 1:09 PM
I see that one of the two links I gave you doesn't work. I would like you to see this: Go to Youtube.com and search for:
The #'s Don't Lie. Energize our Hillary Base!
These are exactly the reason I will not vote for Obama and the Democratic Party, as well as the other YouTube video:
Clinton Backstabbers
Posted by: FranSC
| June 30, 2008 1:36 PM
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