Like Sarah Palin, I'm outta here. Well, not exactly. I am moving this blog from CQPolitics.com to AOL's PoliticsDaily.com.
I've had a great ride at CQ, and I am quite grateful to Robert Merry and Bruce Drake, who created and built this site, for inviting me to be part of a team that produces high-quality journalism and analysis. Now that CQ is being absorbed by Roll Call, Merry and Drake are leaving CQ and off to new challenges. I wish them both much success.
The media world we reporters, commentators, bloggers and Twitterers now live in is ever-changing and ever-churning. Many of us need to tap-dance on multiple platforms simultaneously. It can be exciting--but also tiring. I long for those summers when I worked for a weekly magazine that went biweekly--and there was no website beast to feed. But that was then.
These days, journalists are like many other Americans: you never know where the cliff's edge is. Security is ephemeral. And outlets are declining, even as the digital revolution allows for a greater and freer (in all meanings of the word) flow of information. Still, within this uncertain environment, great work is being done by professionals who care about the business of creating and disseminating important news and commentary. I've been fortunate to be part of one of these experiments: CQPolitics.com. I hope it continues to thrive under the new management. Please keep it bookmarked. (I'm a fan especially of Jonathan Allen Craig Crawford Taegan Goddard, and Jeff Stein.)
I also feel lucky to be joining PoliticsDaily.com, which began this spring. It has recruited some of the best political journalists in the business and some of my favorites, including Lynn Sweet, Jill Lawrence, Walter Shapiro, and Carl Cannon. Please check it out and follow me there. (For those of you who come to this blog via the davidcorn.com URL, it may take a day or so for the new web forwarding to kick in. In the meantime, once I start at PoliticsDaily--tomorrow or Friday--you can find my new spot directly here. And if you get lost along the way, look for directions in my tweets.)
The other day I had to write a fundraising appeal for my home base, Mother Jones. It's not that much fun to shake the can for money. But it's not so bad when you're hitting up people for an endeavor you believe in--and that covers your paycheck. I noted that even though Barack Obama has brought change to Washington, not enough in Washington has changed. Moreover, given the stakes these days--with an economy on its knees, trillions of dollars flowing to and fro in various bailouts, two wars being fought, the health care system in trouble, the climate imperiled--there's more of a need than ever for good journalism that explains the complex matters at hand and that brings transparency and accountability to the deciders of Washington. CQPolitics.com and PoliticsDaily.com both aim to do that. Long may they wave--and have a successful business model.
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DC,
Change is growth.
"Long may they wave--and have a successful business model."
And you too!
Thanks for the forum - I think all who post appreciate your work and your blog.
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 9:43 AM
The only thing that never changes is things change. I still remember the old forum where you could find names like lookingforleadership, factcheckgirl, realred, ect.. Can't wait to see what the new place will be like.
Posted by: eyes_open
| July 29, 2009 11:10 AM
Ah Shucks!
Just when it was getting fun listening to Clint get his panties in a bunch over Barry's illegal alien status. I wonder if Clint has an original BC.
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 1:18 PM
Well, I get here through my favorite/bookmark of "bushlies.com". That'll stay the same, right? I mean, will that same link get me to the new location?
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update: y'all seen where NYC was bummed about being froze out of ONE program for COPS money, when they found out they were getting $35-million from a DIFFERENT program?
That's $1-million less than the whole state of Texas is getting. Still none for Houston though. Seems H-town graded low on the requirements because we budgeted well and weren't hurting as much as the other cities. That's being punished for biting the bullet and staying within budget (no good deed goes unpunished). We've actually increased the police ranks by a couple hundred in the last year... to around 5,200.
Posted by: Alan
| July 29, 2009 1:58 PM
Good luck David.
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 2:15 PM
NPR Poll Finds Tough Sledding For Obama
Right/Wrong Direction 38/54 & 2010 Generic Ballot=43R 42D
NPR ^ | July 29, 2009 | Mara Liasson
The so-called generic ballot question was also very close. Asked whether they would support a Democrat or a Republican for Congress in 2010 if the election were held today, 42 percent said they would choose a Democrat and 43 percent a Republican, a difference well within the poll's margin of error (plus or minus 3.4 percentage points for each number in each question).
Greenberg and Bolger found that 38 percent considered the country to be going in the "right direction," while 54 percent saw it on the "wrong track." But that 15-point negative reading was the least negative of any NPR poll in more than year. Many polls done in the fall of 2008 found nearly 90 percent thought the country was on the "wrong track."
And while the "wrong track" number is down 35 points since then, Republican Glen Bolger said the Democrats will need a much higher "right direction" score than they are seeing now if they expect to maintain the upper hand.
"As a Republican pollster, I would take going into October of 2010 with a 'right direction' of only 38 percent. It looks good compared to how bad things were in 2008, but 38 percent is not a particularly optimistic mood."
Bolger also saw good news for the GOP in the intensity of opposition to Obama. "You have weakened presidential approval where, for the first time, his strong disapproval [rating] has ticked above his strong approval rating."
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Hope and change is on it's way folks - 2010
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 2:16 PM
Should we be bringing a covered dish to the new place?
Posted by: Hajji
| July 29, 2009 2:19 PM
Greenberg and Bolger found that 38 percent considered the country to be going in the "right direction," while 54 percent saw it on the "wrong track." But that 15-point negative reading was the least negative of any NPR poll in more than year. Many polls done in the fall of 2008 found nearly 90 percent thought the country was on the "wrong track."
HUH? Ruh Roh, Freddie...The poll in the late fall showed 90% on wrong track - now its down to 54 - seems like Obamahas helped improve opinions.
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 2:37 PM
another CONsevrvative hypocrite bites the dust...
State Senator Quits After Intern Affair
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (July 29) -- A Tennessee lawmaker resigned from the state Senate on Tuesday after his extramarital affair with a 22-year-old intern was revealed by an investigation into an extortion case.
"Due to recent events, I have decided to focus my full attention on my family and resign my Senate seat effective August 10," Republican Sen. Paul Stanley wrote in his resignation letter.
http://tinyurl.com/lk7ocy
Posted by: Alan
| July 29, 2009 2:39 PM
Hey Haj, where you been?!! Good to see ya drop by.
Posted by: Alan
| July 29, 2009 2:42 PM
Hey Flan, nice spin but then again you're into pet rocks!
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 2:58 PM
ha - you too
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 3:02 PM
"Should we be bringing a covered dish to the new place?"
No way - this pot-luck is topless BABY!
(jk)
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 3:33 PM
Breaking - Waxman gets deal - markup restarts @ 4 PM
Some comprimises on various excemption levels, but looks okay. Looks like getting under $1 trillion was key. Public option is still included but also options on co-ops.
Looks like Rahmbo did it again.
The blue-dogs will also not stand as a group when voting.
The Blue Dogs also succeeded in cutting $100 billion from the overall cost of the bill, bringing the total price tag under $1 trillion. The legislation will now exempt small businesses with a payroll under $500,000 from paying for any government-sponsored health coverage - double the $250,000 in the initial draft.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/29/759276/-BreakingWaxman-gets-dealmarkup-restarts-@-4-PM
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Clearly pressure works.
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 3:34 PM
Obama-Haters Becoming Increasingly...Racial In Their Rhetoric
An interesting pattern has emerged in the last few weeks, as President Obama's ratings have started to come down to Earth: You can really see a type of Obama-hatred out there that really does cross over into a purely racial territory.
This has gotten especially worse in the aftermath of Obama's comments and subsequent mea culpa on the Henry Louis Gates arrest, but the pattern has been there all the same. You can look back to the 2008 campaign, with the Jeremiah Wright controversies, the phony rumors of a tape of Michelle Obama defaming whites, and the slow but steady emergence of the Birthers. And these days, the Birthers seem to be getting more and more bellicose.
So let's take a look at some of those recent racially-charged attacks that have circulated against Obama, both right before and after the Gates incident.
• Above all others, the real celebrity here has been Rush Limbaugh. He's done this kind of thing before -- remember the "Barack, The Magic Negro" song? But in the wake of the Gates incident, he's managed to become even more hard-edged about it. "Here you have a black president trying to destroy a white policeman," Limbaugh declared this past Friday. Yesterday, he shared a dream he's had about the dangers to capitalism: "I had a dream that I was a slave building a sphinx in a desert that looked like Obama." And he joked that food-safety advocates will go after all the unhealthy foods people like to eat, one by one -- but they'll have to wait until Obama is out of office to ban Oreos.
• Glenn Beck said this today on Fox News: "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or the white culture. I don't what it is. You can't sit in a pew with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and not hear some of that stuff, and not have it wash over."
• During his new crusade of Birtherism, Lou Dobbs suggested on his radio show this past Wednesday, right before the Gates flare-up, that Obama could be an illegal immigrant, tying this into his usual preoccupation. "I'm starting to think we have a document issue," Dobbs said. "You suppose he's un-- no, I won't even use the word 'undocumented,' it wouldn't be right."
• As we reported last week, a high-profile conservative activist against Obama on health care was circulating an e-mail that photoshopped Obama's face onto a witch-doctor's body. This e-mail had been circulating before the Gates incident, but still fits into the overall environment of Obama's ratings having started to flag.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-haters-becoming-increasingly-racial-in-their-rhetoric.php
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"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that!"
Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 3:37 PM
Morning Joe Crew Calls Beck ‘Irresponsible,’ ‘Self-Indulging,’ ‘Outrageous’ For Saying Obama’s A Racist
Yesterday on Fox News, host Glenn Beck went on a rant about President Obama’s comments about the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and the upcoming meeting Obama will have with Gates, who is African-American, and the arresting officer, Jim Crowley. “This president has exposed himself, I think, as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or white culture,” Beck complained, later adding, “He has a, this guy is, I believe, a racist.”
The NAACP came out with a statement chastising Beck for his comments. “We commend President Obama for having the courage to discuss an issue that all too many Americans consider a third rail,” the statement said. This morning, the crew on MSNBC’s Morning Joe ripped Beck for an entire segment of the show:
WASHINGTON POST’S JONATHAN CAPEHART: How is it possible that this guy can sit on national television and call this guy a racist? The President is half white!
MSNBC HOST MIKE BARNICLE: In reality, Glenn Beck is just show business. …The larger, dumber statement is that the President of the United States has a deep seeded hatred for white people. Hello Glenn!? His mother was white! He was raised by a white woman, his grandmother! Hello!? Glenn? … Come back down to Earth please!
HOST MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Outrageous is one way of putting it. I would say irresponsible, especially now…selfish, self-indulging.
Watch it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtwjrXhB1gY
Asked to respond to Beck’s comments, Fox News SVP of Programming Bill Shine didn’t repudiate them. “Glenn Beck expressed a personal opinion which represented his own views, not those of the Fox News Channel. And as with all commentators in the cable news arena, he is given the freedom to express his opinions,” he said.
Gawker summed up Shine’s response: “So in other words, Fox News said this: Glenn Beck is free to use our airwaves to say whatever the hell he wants, no matter how baseless and irresponsible the things he says may be, and will you now please leave us the hell alone.”
Update Morning Joe's Joe Scarborough, who did not appear on the show this morning, tweets: "ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Did Glenn Beck really say the president has 'a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture'? Outrageous."
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/29/morning-joe-beck-obama/
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Obama hates his own mom!!
I think FOX Spews has more sense than our resident knucklehead.
ROFLMFAO!
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 3:45 PM
Inside Jim DeMint's Alternative Universe of Political Discourse
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/inside-jim-demints-alternative-universe-of-political-discourse.php?ref=fpa?ref=dc3
also lol
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 3:50 PM
Will the Birthers Doom the GOP?
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The answer may be that the birther phenomenon is a mutation of a political virus called incoherence. Incoherence is fatal. It killed the Whigs (and led to the creation of the Republicans); it killed the Klan and the American communists. The birther mutation looks to erase what remains of the GOP’s credibility with the electorate, already at an all-time low and still sinking to third- and fourth-party numbers, if there were a third or a fourth party.
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This is not a pandemic that spreads only by the airplane, the Internet, or even by word of mouth, because a single exposure to the central whopper is not usually sufficient. Daily reinfection is needed or the disease goes dormant like algebra.
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Grimly, the birther episode is not a media story, or even a story about Barack Obama’s unique youth, but rather it is another illustration of the slow-motion decomposition of the GOP. The party, having lost its principles, its confidence, its courage, and then having lost an election, now experiences what it is to lose its mind, too, while it slips into the ash heap with other novelties.
The conduct of the Republicans in Congress since January has been astonishingly frail, as if the party had lost immunities to race-baiters like Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich, to liars like John Ensign and Mark Sanford, to yammerers like Eric Cantor and Michele Bachmann, to the goofily vain like Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, and Mike Huckabee.
The party has wasted away to the point where opportunistic eruptions like the birthers and much worse are natural sorrows.
http://tinyurl.com/lo7gc5
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lol @ "reinfection is needed or the disease goes dormant like algebra."
Posted by: Alan
| July 29, 2009 3:52 PM
Capt, Obama must hate his mom for putting so much pressure on him to live up to the conspiracy she set in motion when she faked his Hawaiian birth so he could be the president one day ;)
Posted by: eyes_open
| July 29, 2009 3:54 PM
Dear Friend,
If you're like most Americans, there's nothing more important to you about health care than peace of mind.
Given the status quo, that's understandable. The current system often denies insurance due to pre-existing conditions, charges steep out-of-pocket fees - and sometimes isn't there at all if you become seriously ill.
It's time to fix our unsustainable insurance system and create a new foundation for health care security. That means guaranteeing your health care security and stability with eight basic consumer protections:
No discrimination for pre-existing conditions
No exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses, deductibles or co-pays
No cost-sharing for preventive care
No dropping of coverage if you become seriously ill
No gender discrimination
No annual or lifetime caps on coverage
Extended coverage for young adults
Guaranteed insurance renewal so long as premiums are paid
Learn more about these consumer protections at Whitehouse.gov.
Over the next month there is going to be an avalanche of misinformation and scare tactics from those seeking to perpetuate the status quo. But we know the cost of doing nothing is too high. Health care costs will double over the next decade, millions more will become uninsured, and state and local governments will go bankrupt.
It's time to act and reform health insurance, drive down costs and guarantee the health care security and stability of every American family. You can help by putting these core principles of reform in the hands of your friends, your family, and the rest of your social network.
Thank you,
Barack Obama
http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-insurance-consumer-protections/?e=9&ref=text2
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 4:01 PM
No doubt eyes!
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 4:03 PM
Something Unusual
You've probably seen the headlines: Opponents of change are doing everything they can to delay health insurance reform. As a Republican strategy memo concluded, "If we slow this sausage-making process down, we can defeat it."
They're betting that as time goes by, our energy will flag, our movement will weaken, and they'll ultimately be able to block any change.
But they just don't get it -- thanks to the regular Americans who are reaching out in neighborhoods nationwide, our movement is expanding every day. In fact, over the weekend, we surpassed our big goal of one million people taking action for health insurance reform. And with your help, we'll keep growing and prove that our opponents' strategy of "delay, delay, delay" simply won't work.
So I want to ask you for something unusual: Can you chip in $1 each day until we pass real health insurance reform? A huge response will show the insurance companies and their allies in Congress that their delay tactics will only make our movement stronger.
Here's how it works: We'll bill your credit card for 30 days' worth of donations now and once a month until the President signs real health insurance reform into law.
The cost of inaction on health insurance reform is astounding. Every day, 14,000 more Americans lose their coverage. Premiums continue to rise at three times the rate of wages. And each day, more small businesses are forced to choose between covering their employees and keeping their doors open.
But that doesn't stop our opponents from trying to bog down the process with legislative tricks. And at the same time, they're attacking the President for "moving too fast," even though Washington has been talking about the need for comprehensive health insurance reform since the days of Harry Truman!
What they don't realize is that outside of Washington, our campaign keeps growing. We've reached our "million" milestone, but the stories behind that number are even more impressive: grassroots press conferences with small-business owners in Missouri, more than 1,200 people at an organizing meeting in Minnesota, huge events outside local Senate offices in Florida, and so much more.
That's why our dollar-a-day campaign is so important: If the few senators and representatives who are opposing reform understand that dragging their heels makes us stronger every day -- and that the grassroots pressure on them will increase -- they'll be far less willing to keep slowing down the process.
Can you help? Please donate $1 per day until we pass real health insurance reform:
https://donate.barackobama.com/dollar
Thank you,
Mitch
Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America
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I am one cheap dude but I think this is important enough to chip in.
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 4:20 PM
GWU Battleground Provides Initial Insights in the 2010 Elections
WASHINGTON, July 29 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The latest edition of The George Washington University Battleground Poll finds a majority of voters (51%) believing that the country is on the wrong track. Their top areas of concern are the economy and jobs, health care costs, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the federal budget deficit.
Looking ahead to the 2010 Congressional Elections, the Democratic Party enjoys a three point advantage (43%-40%) on the Congressional generic ballot. However, voters are closely divided on their preference for a divided government (41%) or for a unified government (39%). In addition, a majority (57%) of voters disapprove of the job performance of Congress.
In contrast, President Obama has a job approval rating of 53%, a personal approval rating of 72%, and a 61% favorable rating on name identification.
http://newsblaze.com/story/2009072907020500002.pnw/topstory.html
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 6:09 PM
Blue Dog: Dems need more 'adult supervision' from White House; Worried about Obama's declining poll numbers...
Health Care, A 'Blue Dog Democrat's' View
By John Hockenberry, Amy Holmes
Guests: Todd Zwillich, Rep. Jim Cooper
Wednesday, July 29 2009
Health care, health care, health care. President Obama has been pushing his plan, selling it to the nation in a prime time press conference last week and to seniors in a town hall with the AARP yesterday. But is the nation buying it? The Takeaway's Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich has been watching; he's not sure everyone in the president's own party are keen on the plan. The Blue Dog Democrats, the fiscally conservative wing of the party, may be starting to work with House Republicans to slow the bill's progress. One of the Blue Dog Democrats, Tennessee Congressman Jim Cooper, joins us to explain his position. Rep. Cooper has taught health care policy at Vanderbilt University for 12 years.
"It's not too late right now, we can still get this done. The key is to have an open dialogue with all the American people, not just hardcore Democrats and Republicans, but also the folks in the middle who really are worried and skeptical and want to know more what's in the bill."
—Rep. Jim Cooper on health care reform
John Hockenberry for The Takeaway: “Blue Dog Democrat,” so-called, Jim Cooper, joins us now. Tennessee Congressman, we spoke to him at the top of the hour. He’s a Congressman, he’s one of the so-called Blue Dog Democrats, but he’s been teaching health care policy at Vanderbilt University for 12 years, so he comes by his authority rightly. Congressman, thanks so much for staying with us here.
Rep. Jim Cooper: Delighted to.
John Hockenberry: I’m going to come at you pretty hard right at the top here. There’s a Democratic majority in the House, a Democratic majority in the Senate, Democrats have the White House, it would appear that one might conclude that there’s a consensus in America that the Democrats’ vision is what should proceed in the government here, and for you and some conservative Democrats to stand in the way of that suggests that you’re standing in the way of a national consensus. How is that not the case?
Rep. Jim Cooper: I think if you look closer at this, you’ll discover the Blue Dog Democrats are probably more in agreement with the White House and President Obama on his three priorities of deficit neutrality, bending the cost curve in the right direction, and a bill that works. We’re more in tune with the White House than House leadership is. People need to understand that. They also need to understand that regardless of what we want to have in a bill, it has to have 60 votes in the U.S. Senate. That’s they key threshold. Because there are plenty of Democratic votes in the House, but how do you get 60 votes in the Senate? That’s going to take some kind of bipartisanship whether we want to have that or not. And while Senator Baucus is working on one bipartisan approach there are others. There’s the so-called “Healthy Americans Act,” the Wyden-Bennett bill, the SU Emerson Bill in the House, which is much more bipartisan that what Senator Baucus has been working on.
John Hockenberry: Is there a target for you and your colleagues in the House as you look at a version that you could actually vote for? Is it a price tag issue? Is it a co-op issue? Is it a government voluntary hybrid system?
Rep. Jim Cooper: The Congressional Budget Office has tested all the congressional bills so far and — guess what? — every one so far has failed except for the Healthy Americans Act, which is the one they won’t let us talk about. The President has insisted repeatedly, he did it on prime time television last week, the bill has to be deficit neutral. It has to bend the cost curve in the right direction. And so far the House bill is bending the cost curve in the wrong direction. That’s the opposite of reform. So it’s important to look at the details of this bill. It’s 1,000 pages long. We had a five-hour walk-through just the other night. That’s one hour for ever 200 pages. We still don’t feel comfortable with everything that’s in the bill. We’re working on it. We want the Obama administration to succeed at passing good health care legislation. We can do it on the President’s timetable which is this fall. We’re working 18 hours a day to get this done. I think the key is to realize that Blue Dogs are more in tune with the President’s budget priorities than the House leadership.
John Hockenberry: You said that. But it does appear that Americans do want something to happen. In an era when we’re spending a trillion and change on financial reform and bank bailouts and Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae, why not pay a trillion and a half for health care and worry about reducing the costs later? At least we get the change that we need, some sort of system in place to even begin to deal with some of these problems. Is $1.5 trillion over the top?
Rep. Jim Cooper: Listen more closely to the President, because he tells you the status quo is not an option. Why is that? Because our current health care programs, the programs we already have and take for granted, vitally important programs like Medicare and Medicaid, guess what? Each one is already over $30 trillion in the hole. That’s the current problem we face. That’s why we have to bend the cost curves in the right direction, because we have to make our current system affordable, much less before we talk about these add-ons. I’m for health care reform. I want a good bill to pass. I’ve been working most of my life on getting this to happen. But it’s very important that we get the details right. There’s huge inequities between different states. There are huge inequities between the quality of different health care system. And we can make that work better for everybody if we just work together and do it right.
Amy Holmes: Congressman, this is Amy Holmes here. I have a little bit different take on this. We’ve seen that the President’s approval ratings have gone down, and the public’s confidence in his handling of health care is going down. Does this give you pause? Does it make you nervous?
Rep. Jim Cooper: It worries me greatly. I’ve been pushing for health care reform right after inauguration day, because we had our bill ready completely bipartisan and scored by CBO to save money and bend the cost curve in the right direction. Unfortunately, other decisions were made by house leadership to take up other issues. I think we missed a precious six months of the honeymoon period. But it’s not too late right now, we can still get this done. The key is to have an open dialogue with all the American people, not just hardcore Democrats and Republicans, but also the folks in the middle who really are worried and skeptical and want to know what’s in the bill, and we can do that during this August recess.
Amy Holmes: Congressman, let me get back to a point you just made. You keep talking about House leadership. You hear some Democratic grumbling that the president hasn’t weighed in enough, that there’s been a lack of leadership on Pennsylvania Avenue to forge this bipartisan consensus. What do you say?
Rep. Jim Cooper: I think we need more adult supervision in Congress. We’re a group of 435 people, it’s very difficult to organize, and the White House has the bully pulpit so we welcome their supervision.
John Hockenberry: Isn’t part of the problem, though, with the bill that you say was ready to go during the honeymoon period, is that, in fact, the 46 million uninsured Americans, most of them would be out of luck under that bill?
Rep. Jim Cooper: Oh, completely wrong. CBO scored the bill. It’s the only bill that would actually cover everybody. The House leadership bills that they’re talking about would leave, depending on your measure, between 17 million to 10 million people out entirely. Our bill would cover everybody. So we’ve got to get our facts right, and too few people have looked at this thoroughly, original, bipartisan, Wyden-Bennet, Healthy Americans Act approach.
John Hockenberry: Alright. Tennessee Congressman Jim Cooper.
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 6:22 PM
America's Best Days
49% Now Say America’s Best Days Are In The Past
Wednesday, July 29, 2009
One-out-of-two U.S. voters (49%) now say the nation’s best days are in the past, a five-point jump from last month and the highest level of pessimism on this question in a year.
But a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 38% still say America’s best days are in the future, a finding that has held steady since April.
Hope - Hell no!
Change - Hell yes!
Way to go Barry...........
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 6:26 PM
Huffpost - Obama's Doctor: President's Vision For Health Care Bound To Fail
The man Barack Obama consulted on medical matters for over two decades said on Tuesday that the president's vision for health care reform is bound for failure.
Dr. David Scheiner, a 70-year Chicago-based physician who treated Obama for more than 20 years, said he was disheartened by the health care legislation his former patient is championing, calling it piecemeal and ineffectual.
"I look at his program and I can't see how it's going to work," Scheiner told the Huffington Post. "He has no cost control. There would be no effective cost control in his program. The [Congressional Budget Office] said it's going be incredibly expensive ... and the thing that I really am worried about is, if it is the failure that I think it would be, then health reform will be set back a long, long time."
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 6:34 PM
Obama's to Blame for the Birther Movement
Fox ^ | 7/29/09 | Tommy De Seno
Trust but verify.
-- Ronald Reagan
It's good practice to take a person at his word until someone shows you proof he is lying.
Barack Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and since no one has shown any proof he was born in Kenya or elsewhere, it's OK to conclude he was born in Hawaii.
Sure his grammar school records show that he was enrolled as an Indonesian Muslim, but some people will say anything to get their kid in the right school. It doesn't really answer the question.
It's OK though for others not to use my deferential standard and continue to question whether Obama was born in Hawaii. We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here. There is a Constitutional mandate that the President be a natural-born citizen, and if Obama is not one, he certainly will have committed the biggest fraud since the White Sox threw the World Series.
The reason why people still question Obama's citizen status is one-fold: "President Transparency" has refused to release any original documents on the matter. He can end the controversy in a day by releasing original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and his love-struck media never asks him why he won't. The media instead spends hell-bent hours on making the Birther movement look like fringy, conspiracy-hungry kooks.
You have to admit though, even if you are a devout Obama-bot, Obama's refusal to release any original documents makes for a newsworthy story by itself.
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 6:50 PM
BORN IN THE USA?
Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Real documents include name of doctor, hospital
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Eleanor Nordyke displays photostats of her twin daughters' birth certificates (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.
The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.
The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.
As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino declared she has seen the "original birth records" that verify Obama was born in Hawaii and is a "natural-born American citizen," the Honolulu Advertiser reported.
Join in WND's Fedex campaign and tell Obama you don't buy his state-run media coverup!
But in two separate telephone interviews with WND, Janice Okubo, the health department's public information officer, told WND that Hawaii law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.
WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001.
Photostat of Susan Nordyke's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)
The statement to WND by Janice Okubo, public information officer for state's health department, contradicted CNN U.S. President Jon Klein, who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing Obama's birth certificate on the air. Klein insisted the issue was "dead" because Obama's original long-form birth certificate had been destroyed by the Hawaii DOH in the conversion to electronic files.
A close examination of the birth certificates issued by Kapi'olani to the Nordyke twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the future president was born a day earlier.
Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
According to a version of Obama's purported short-form certificate available from FactCheck.org, Obama was given a higher registration number than the Nordyke twins. The online image indicates the number is No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.
The middle figure in Obama's purported registration also is different than the Nordykes'. Obama's is 1961, indicating the year, while the Nordykes' is merely 61.
One explanation for the out-of-order serial numbers might be that several serialized stacks of birth certificates were made available at different hospitals.
Another possibility is that Obama's number is not a genuine registration number created in 1961 but was issued when the short-form document was generated during the 2008 presidential campaign.
Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham's baby was born earlier. Nordyke's twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.
WND was unable to receive a response from Hawaii officials regarding the state's procedure for issuing registration numbers.
Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring "Busted!"
He pointed out that the background text, in Dutch, explained, in a rough translation, "This is not a government document. This is political commentary."
It's not just Obama's original birth certificate at issue. WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.
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Dang it, just when I was starting to believe that the Obama bots were on to something the facts just keep getting in the way!
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 6:59 PM
CORKY LIVES!!!!!
Hey Freddie! Wow you are really onto something with your Worldnut Daily News stories! Wow I am really convinced! We should just have the Supreme Court appoint McCain as President immeadiately. Then we would definitely have a natural born citizen in the White House. Oh wait...McCain was born in PANAMA!
Posted by: corky
| July 29, 2009 8:03 PM
Vitter Defends South, Values Against "Wishy Washy" Voinovich
Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) on Wednesday fired back at a fellow Republican senator who declared southern conservatives the party's biggest problem.
Sen. George Voinovich, the former governor of Ohio, made waves when he told The Columbus Dispatch "we got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns."
"It's the southerners," he said. "They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr.' People hear them and say, 'These people, they're southerners. The party's being taken over by southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?'"
Vitter -- who is looking at a potential re-election battle against adult-film star Stormy Daniels -- responded to the comments in an interview with The Washington Times, where he criticized Voinovich for voting last week against an amendment, sponsored by Vitter, which would have made it easier for people to carry concealed weapons.
"He's a moderate," the Louisiana senator said, "really wishy-washy."
Vitter -- who admitted to a "very serious sin" in 2007 after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service -- said that the GOP should focus on restoring conservative values.
"I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," he said. "There are a lot of us from the South who hold those values, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that's why we performed so badly in the national elections."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/vitter-defends-south-valu_n_247335.html
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Wowser, those GOP values must include no shame.
Vitter is the poster boy for GOP values
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:06 PM
Hey Corky - I think the ability to convince someolne is in exact reverse proportion to the number of exlamation points one uses.
I think you may be dead. Or, was that just scarcasm? ;>)
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:08 PM
Colbert Vs. Crazy: Stephen Takes On 'Birther' Movement (VIDEO)
While Stephen Colbert the person may find the birther movement morally reprehensible, Stephen Colbert the character embraces it wholeheartedly. That's why, despite his obvious distaste for guest Orly Taitz, he spent the better part of last night's show "defending" the conspiracy theorists.
Orly, and many others like her including several members of Congress, believe Barack Obama is not our rightful president because he was not born on U.S. soil. Even if he was, they argue, it would not be legitimate for him to take office because his father was not a U.S. citizen. Granted, neither was Chester A. Arthur's nor Orly's but the irony and historical comparison is lost on these folks. Despite overwhelming evidence that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii the birthers continue to dominate the news cycle for lack of a more intriguing topic in mid-summer.
Colbert broke down last night and gave this group the acknowledgment they deserve by allowing his viewers into the Colbert birthing chamber (segment 1) and talking to Ms. Taitz about her bat-shit crazy theories (segment 2). Not only did she compare Obama to Stalin and Hitler but made a "joke" about digging up his father's remains. It was all bonkers, but what do you expect from a woman who is equal parts lawyer, dentist and real estate agent?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/colbert-vs-crazy-stephen_n_246700.html
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The mock comes full circle
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:09 PM
damn those l's.. They just jumlp in where they arnl't wanted
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:09 PM
It's one "l" of a problem I tell ya.
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:10 PM
Obama Denies That He's "Antibusiness"
In a wide-ranging interview with BusinessWeek, the President says "to return to some semblance of balance is hardly radical"
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_32/b4142000676096.htm
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As if? Barack has always been a corporatist. (IMO)
And even if he was antibusiness one needs to look no further than his advisers and cabinet.
Not that pro-business is bad.
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:12 PM
Justin Barrett, Boston Police Officer, Suspended For Calling Gates A "Jungle Monkey" In E-mail
The fallout from the Henry Louis Gates Jr. arrest continues: the Boston Police Department has suspended an officer named Justin Barrett for using a racial slur in reference to the Harvard professor in an email, the AP reports:
After learning of the slur, Commissioner Edward Davis put 36-year-old Justin Barrett on administrative leave pending a termination hearing.
A person with knowledge of the case, speaking on condition of anonymity because the person is not authorized to speak publicly about it, said Barrett, a member of the National Guard, used the racial slur in messages to guardsmen and to The Boston Globe.
The AP omits the phrase Barrett used from its article, but the Boston Globe reports that the phrase was "jungle monkey," and that the officer used it while reacting to the media coverage of the arrest.
Barrett, a 36-year-old who has been on the job for two years, was stripped of his gun and badge yesterday and faces a termination hearing in the next week, said police spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll. He has no previous disciplinary record, she said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/justin-barrett-boston-pol_n_247405.html
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Sadly law enforcement was very white and racist back in the '60's. Certainly there are still some racist cops.
Heck mixed marriage wasn't even legal until 1967. (in the USA)
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:15 PM
Fed Survey: Economy Has "Begun To Stabilize, Albeit At A Low Level."
WASHINGTON — The economy is finally showing signs of stabilizing in some regions of the country – especially in parts of the Northeast and Midwest – bolstering hopes of a broader-based recovery this year.
A Federal Reserve snapshot of economic conditions issued Wednesday found that most of the Fed's 12 regions indicated either that the recession was easing or that economic activity had "begun to stabilize, albeit at a low level."
The economy remains fragile. But the fact that some Fed regions reported signs of activity beginning to level out raises hope that the recession, which started in December 2007, is drawing to a close.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/fed-survey-economy-has-be_n_247181.html
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Seem Barack has started to make the mend that Bush couldn't in twice the time?
lolollol
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:18 PM
Disorderly Conduct: Conversation About Gates Arrest Precedes Arrest
lawyer who moments earlier had been complaining to friends about police overreaction in the arrest of Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., got a taste of the Gates treatment himself after loudly chanting "I hate the police" near a traffic stop in Northwest Washington, D.C.
Pepin Tuma, 33, was walking with two friends along Washington's hip U Street corridor around midnight Saturday, complaining about how Gates had been rousted from his home for not showing a proper amount of deference to a cop. "We'd been talking about it all day," said Tuma. "It seems like police have a tendency to act overly aggressively when they're being pushed around," Tuma recalled saying.
Then the group noticed five or six police cruisers surrounding two cars in an apparent traffic stop on the other side of the street. It seemed to Tuma that was more cops than necessary.
"That's why I hate the police," Tuma said. He told the Huffington Post that in a loud sing-song voice, he then chanted, "I hate the police, I hate the police."
One officer reacted strongly to Tuma's song. "Hey! Hey! Who do you think you're talking to?" Tuma recalled the officer shouting as he strode across an intersection to where Tuma was standing. "Who do you think you are to think you can talk to a police officer like that?" the police officer said, according to Luke Platzer, 30, one of Tuma's companions.
Tuma said he responded, "It is not illegal to say I hate the police. It's not illegal to express my opinion walking down the street."
According to Tuma and Platzer, the officer pushed Tuma against an electric utility box, continuing to ask who he thought he was and to say he couldn't talk to police like that.
"I didn't curse," Tuma said. "I asked, am I being arrested? Why am I a being arrested?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/29/disorderly-conduct-conver_n_246794.html
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Lucky for us there are many - even most - good cops. Sadly a bad one or two or a bad day can taint the other 99.9%.
Nobody wants a cop around unles they need help. That is human nature.
I personally never give a cop any reason to be concerned with me. It is easier that way.
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 8:23 PM
I wouldn't want their job, but I am glad they are there. I am a white female so I have never encountered racism by cops. When I was assaulted, they were very good to me.
Cops are, unfortunately, abusive to their family member in numbers disproportionate from the rest of the population. I think that this is both a product of their job and a product of the type of job that attracts people who want power and control.
It really is a fine blue line they walk.
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:34 PM
Gallup: A Whole New Low; MSNBC Forced to Write Heartbreaking Headline About New Poll
—Ace
53%, his lowest yet, down slightly from his previous low of 54%, yesterday.
And his disapproval ooches back up to its high of 39%. (It had fallen, statistically meaninglessly, to 38% yesterday.)
Rasmussen and Zogby are proven accurate. Rasmussen has him at 49-50 among likelies, once again at -10 on that thing you know I don't really get.
Same deal in the NBC/WSJ poll. A commenter wrote that the MSNBC stooges were tearing their hair out about it.
Despite his public-relations blitz over the past two weeks to promote his plans to reform the nation's health-care system — including holding two town halls on Wednesday — President Barack Obama has lost ground on this issue with the American public, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
Pluralities now say that the president’s health care plan is a bad idea, and that it will result in the quality of their care getting worse. What’s more, just four in 10 approve of his handling on the issue.
The poll also finds that Obama's overall job-approval rating has dropped to 53 percent. And it shows a public that has grown increasingly concerned about the federal government's spending as the administration defends its $787 billion economic stimulus and supports a $1 trillion-plus health-care bill.
I am beginning to realize it is no accident that these polls -- which always previously told us the disapproval number as well -- keep hiding it.
They're doing it deliberately. To them, it doesn't matter how many people disapprove of Obama. The only thing that matters are the people who matter, and those are the 53%.
I cannot remember ever having to search for Bush's disapproval figure. But this is like the third poll in three weeks where I have to go to the crosstabs for the stat.
It's 40%, as if we care about those 40% of the public, in case you're curious. Which is certainly an all-time high for Obama in the NBC poll, and maybe something they should have mentioned. (Higher than Gallup's number by a point.)
“This is a president who needs a vacation,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff. “His job rating is … certainly an acceptable mark. But if you look at it over time, it has [gone] south without a doubt.”
On heath care, more bad news:
As Congress works on its legislation and as Obama campaigns to get an overhaul enacted, 42 percent now say that the president’s plan is a bad idea, which is a 10-point increase since last month. Thirty-six percent say it’s a good idea.
In addition, 39 percent — a plurality — believe that Obama’s plan would result in the quality of their health care getting worse. That’s 15-point jump since April.
And just 41 percent approve of the president’s job on health care, which is nearly identical to Bill Clinton’s scores from 1994, when he failed to get Congress to pass health care reform.
Here's a shock for ya:
Americans who have private health insurance disapprove of Obama’s job on health care by a 51-38 percent margin. Those who lack insurance, however, approve of his job, 52-29 percent.
Trouble is 85% of the country has insurance.
And on the Stimulus Stabilization Bill:
The public also has concerns with the progress of the $787 billion economic stimulus that Obama signed into law in February. In the poll, 43 percent believe the legislation was a bad idea, up 16 points since January. Just 34 percent say the stimulus was a good idea.
The media can no longer justify its puff-coverage on the grounds of "But Barack Obama is like sooooo popular!"
(As if that is actually justification for not doing their jobs in the first place.)
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Yup, Barry sure has fixed the economy Capt!
At least Barry has convinced a few mindless trolls anyway!
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 8:37 PM
Hey Capt, let's compare facts not fiction to your claim Barry has fixed in six months what tokk Bush 6 years to fuck up............
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Democrats: You're Stupid, So We're Going to Blame Bush
—Slublog
With President Barack Obama's poll numbers falling to earth, he's decided to embark on a bold new initiative - blaming former President Bush for the country's woes.
Didn't see that coming. Democratic strategists are supporting the president in the only way they know how - engaging in mind-numbing spin:
"I'm not convinced that Obama and his supporters are bashing Bush as much as they are quite rightfully reminding people that our current economic mess and the wars were inherited from the Bush administration," said Democratic strategist Bud Jackson. "It's important to remind people of this because Republicans are now criticizing the Obama administration as if they had no role in how we got here."
Democratic Party strategist Liz Chadderdon said the strategy of blaming the previous team has been effective.
"I think Bush-bashing has been alive and well since '07 and, since it keeps working, why not use it?" she said. "Voters have short memories. The administration needs to remind people that things were way worse over the last four years than in the last six months."
Read that bold section again. You've got to wonder how much cranial fecal impaction it takes for someone to believe that statement. First off, she implies that all of you are idiots who can't remember what life was like three or four years ago. Second, her implication that the current economic conditions are worse than what we 'suffered' under George W. Hooverbush.
Let's look at the facts, shall we?
The unemployment rate went from 5.2% in January 2005 to 7.2% in December 2008. Overall, the average in that time was 5.03% President Obama signed the stimulus package in February of 2009 when the unemployment rate was still at 7.6% He promised the spending would keep the rate from going above 8%. It is now 9.5%, with no signs that it will improve in the near future. The state numbers are even worse.
2.6 million people lost their jobs in 2008. 2 million more have lost jobs since Jan 09.
Obama has repeatedly blamed the high deficits on the Bush administration, but his policies will only increase the nation's debt.
Average GDP from Jan 05 to Dec 08 was 1.68% In the first quarter of Jan 09, it's -5.5. There has been some moderate growth from the last quarter of Dec 08, but still far below the level warranting the level of hyperbole used by Ms. Chadderdon.
The Obama administration says we have to 'spend money to keep from going bankrupt.' They're basing their faith in spending on the Keynsian multiplier effect, but even Keynes himself warned against combining recovery with economic reform:
...even wise and necessary Reform may, in some respects, impede and complicate Recovery. For it will upset the confidence of the business world and weaken their existing motives to action, before you have had time to put other motives in their place...
Full text of Keynes letter here. Obama's two signature proposals are cap-and-trade and healthcare reform. Neither will help the economy, and in fact, they may actually hurt it.
Had Ms. Chadderdon been less enamored with Bush-bashing and capable of more restraint in her speech, she could have said the first six months of the Obama administration have been better than the last six months of the Bush. Even that would have been something of a stretch, but it would have made her spin a bit more believable.
I say a bit because none of the spinners take into account what Obama's policies will necessitate: higher taxes on the middle class. Candidate Obama may have promised that your taxes wouldn't go up, but remember that every Obama promise comes with an expiration date.
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Yup- Barry sure has lived up to the hype, heh?
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 8:40 PM
Damn those facts!!!!!!
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 8:42 PM
Hey Corkie,
The real conspiracy is that you trolls actually think taht Barry's the President!
Now that fucking funny!
Posted by: freddie
| July 29, 2009 8:45 PM
Like I said, inverse proportion to the number of exlamation points used...
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:54 PM
Damn, lost a c somewhere - did you c where it went?
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:55 PM
Projection anyone?
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 8:57 PM
I love how taking "starting to make the mend" turns into "fixed"
Seems like to make a point one not only needs to use multiple exlamation points but distortions too.
Damn those facts... and what's with the clucking language?
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 9:03 PM
Who knew? Who knew, in the wake of all those madcap Christian fundamentalists who ruled like drunken virgins over the Dark Days of Bush, who happily burned books and shunned science and hated on gays and woman and trees, after all of that, who know the right still had such a cavalcade of intellectual toddlers waiting in the wings to come out and play in the fields of Infantile Fantasyland, and further guarantee the party's merciful irrelevance for years to come?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-morford/9-nicely-insane-ideas-for_b_246704.html
Funny read
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 9:41 PM
That piece is too funny!
Thanks!
Posted by: capt
| July 29, 2009 10:14 PM
I guess "The Enders" is the first to take off...Rachel Maddow showed and ad already in play that fits this mold...
"The Enders." Gaggle of crusty septuagenarians certain that, tucked deep inside the health care reform bill is a provision that will encourage more end-of-life consulting for confused elderly people. Translation: Obama promotes euthanasia! Liberals want to kill all aging neocons! Damn tofu-sucking hippies want to literally "pull the plug" on old white males and AIG executives and Dick Cheney! Oh the humanity! Oh the Sean Hannity!
Posted by: flan
| July 29, 2009 11:14 PM
My mother was born in Poland but she was never so much of a Poll-ak as Freddie.
My father was born in Lithuania which nowhere near as humorous as Poland. Oh well, I was born in Israel and that makes me a goddamned socialist. Since the christian god is an Israeli Jew I guess it is OK.
Having spend 47 years in the USA I can tell you that socialism is far better than anything I ever saw capitolism accomplish. On an individual basis capitolism can be wonderful. On a societal basis it is horrific unless tightly constrained.
Anyone who has ever read American history can show that as bankers are left to their own devices they become very rich but invariably cause a collapse. This has happened repeatedly in North America but no lessons have ever been learned from it since it is presumed that gravity is suspended every time the stock market shoots up and private fortunes grow exponentially. Inevitably there is a crash and government comes to the aid of the rich and over privileged who fear that their corps of servants many diminish somewhat. The poor are advised to go off and starve somewhere out of sight of the rich and middle class. That is the upshot of the American dream as society wakes up and looks around.
Posted by: kalpal
| July 30, 2009 3:17 PM
Kalpal -
You are courageous to speak your mind on this site given the venom spewed regurgitation of right wing talking points you are about to receive from various folks. I commend you.
I, therefore, being duly sworn and ordained, hereby declare you an honorary member of the Order of Flannery Sisters and Brother of Perpetual Determination.
In Perpetual Determination, I am,
Flan
Posted by: flan
| August 1, 2009 12:07 PM
Correction,
Order of Flannery Sisters and Brothers of Perpetual Determination
Damn!
Posted by: flan
| August 1, 2009 12:09 PM
This shows who the racists are...
85% of Americans believe Obama needs to be vetted, we are the majority, Obama’s brown shirts are the fringe.
"Dr." Orl Taitz Esquire"
Posted by: flan
| August 1, 2009 12:35 PM
The following members of Congress are Orly's friends on Facebook:
1. W. Todd Akin (Missouri, 2nd)
2. Mary Bono (California, 45th)
3. Eric Cantor(Virginia, 7th)
4. Jason Chaffetz (Utah, 3rd)
5. Virginia Foxx (North Carolina, 5th)
6. Thaddeus McCotter(Michigan, 11th)
7. RonPaul Channel –don’t know if this is Ron Paul’s only Facebook presence, or if this indicates an endorsement
8. Peter J. Roskam (Illinois, 6th)
9. Lee Terry(Nebraska, 2nd)
Some representation these states are getting!
Posted by: flan
| August 1, 2009 12:41 PM
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