This time it's personal.
Then again, it was personal in 2004.
In September 2003, I published a book immoderately titled, The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception. Its contention was a simple one: that Bush had gone beyond the normal boundaries of presidential spin in using falsehoods and misrepresentations to skew the public discourse on many fronts: stems cells, global warming, tax policy, and, above all, the invasion of Iraq.
At the time, this was not--in certain circles--a well-received argument. Conservative pundits, pointing to my book and others that came out at the time (Al Franken's Lying Liars, Molly Ivins' Bushwhacked, written with Lou Dubose, and Joe Conason's Big Lies), declared a new phenomenon was at hand: rabid, irrational Bush hatred. MSM commentators, ever looking to reside within the comfortable, above-it-all middle, observed that the left was now mirroring the extreme rhetoric of the Limbaugh-crazy, Coulter-loving right. I noted some examples of this dismissive reax in a recent Mother Jones essay. The New York Times' Matt Bai, citing my book, wrote, "the new leftist screeds seem to solidify a rising political culture of incivility and overstatement." Conservative columnist David Brooks proclaimed that "the core threat to democracy is not in the White House, it's the haters themselves." (Yes, I was more dangerous than George W. Bush.) What few of these commentators of the center and right bothered to do was to evaluate the case I (and the others) had put forward. That is, to confront the facts I had presented. Their aim was to discredit the very idea of anyone going so far as to call the president of the United States a liar. And National Review editor Rich Lowry opined, "I don't think the public is going to buy the idea that [Bush is] a liar."
Lowry got it wrong. By Election Day 2004, polls showed that a slight majority believed that Bush was not honest and trustworthy. Still, Bush managed to best John Kerry in an election that was something of a referendum on Bush's first term. But that election came too early. Had it been held a year later--post-Katrina--any Dem would have thrashed Bush and Cheney at the polls. And now about seven out of ten disapprove of his presidency, and most of the public agrees with the premise that Bush deliberately misled American citizens about WMDs and the threat supposedly posed by Iraq. Bush is heading toward the door widely regarded as a failure: Iraq, Katrina, the financial meltdown. He has become the vanishing president. Hardly seen. Barely relevant.
Bush's style of politics, his policies, his political party--it's all been discredited. Whatever happens in the presidential race, the GOP is poised to take a beating in congressional races. He has led his party to ruin. The battle over the W. story has been won by his critics--at least in the short run. The view that Bush has been a dishonest president and bad for the United States has become the majority position in the United States. If McCain somehow manages to win, it will be in spite of Bush.
Many presidents are elected as reactions to the previous president. George W. Bush's (faux) victory in 2000 was a reaction to the Bill Clinton soap opera. And a Barack Obama triumph would be the natural reaction to the W. years. Obama is the most progressive (or liberal) Democratic nominee since FDR ran for reelection. He is black (or biracial). He is an intellectual. He is no child of privilege. To sum up: he is the opposite of George W. Bush. Not only has Bush started two wars he couldn't finish, presided over a government that lost a major American city, and did little as a financial tsunami hit the nation; he has (I am guessing) created a yearning among many Americans for a non-Bush. And within the realm of conventional U.S. politics, Obama is about as non-Bush as it gets. No wonder Obama has a strong chance of becoming president. He spoke (endlessly) of change; he is an antidote to the Bush presidency.
Comments
DC,
Maybe the internet has helped goose the M$M as well?
"Molly Ivins, Studs Terkel, Paul Newman, and Paul Wellstone." deserve more credit than they will ever get.
They (and a few others) deserve a toast either way.
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 12:46 PM
Mr. Corn's quest for truth and disdain for lies are admirable. His acknowledgement of the life's work of Molly Ivins, Studs Terkel, Paul Newman and Paul Wellstone is also wholly appropriate and classy. Their spirits survive through folks like Mr. Corn. And if they survive somehow in their own individual forms, I hope they will be smiling and celebrating Nov. 5. I particularly miss Molly Ivins. Thanks for carrying her torch, Mr. Corn.
Posted by: Unitarian Patriot
| November 3, 2008 12:47 PM
Well said David.
I hope somehow Paul Wellstone knows that his mental health insurance parity bill finally got passed (in case some of you don't know, it was slipped in with the extra stuff when Senate passed the Bail Out bill).
It happened too late to help my brother Paul (who passed away this May from lung cancer - roughly 1/3 of all cigarettes are sold to the mentally ill).
Posted by: flan
| November 3, 2008 1:25 PM
bush did not ""manage to best john kerry in 2004"" - all one has to do is research the massive voter fraud that took place in ohio and other key states to determine what really happened.
what are you going to say, corn, when mcblinky somehow "manages to best obama in 2008"?
Posted by: as_if!
| November 3, 2008 1:26 PM
Goin' Rogue!
http://tinyurl.com/68mzw7
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 1:35 PM
The point for the pundits was never to disprove your contention of GW's lies but rather to place him above all others citizens as close as possible to a royal/aristocratic presence that must not be publicly challenged since that would diminish the standing of the entire nation.
Congress has rules that forbid members from calling each other by their rightful designation. All members are esteemed colleagues even when they are lying scum, especially when they are lying scum.
Posted by: kalpal
| November 3, 2008 1:37 PM
David Corn has his own problem with facts.
Presenting one of his themes in "The Lies of George W. Bush", here is a quote from a Corn article in the Nation:
"To deal with the criticism that his plan was a boon for millionaires, Bush devised an imaginary friend--a mythical single waitress who was supporting two children on an income of $22,000, and he talked about her often. He said he wanted to remove the tax-code barriers that kept this waitress from reaching the middle class, and he insisted that if his tax cuts were passed, "she will pay no income taxes at all." But when Time asked the accounting firm of Deloitte & Touche to analyze precisely how Bush's waitress-mom would be affected by his tax package, the firm reported that she would not see any benefit because she already had no income-tax liability."
This is a lie!
The Deloitte & Touche report did not analyze Bush's waitress-mom. It analyzed three different types of families; comparing Bush's tax proposals to Gore's. One of the family types was a single woman with two children, but Bush's waitress was a single woman with one child. A single woman with one child WOULD get a tax break under Bush, but a single woman with two children would not.
Corn lied when he stated "Time asked the accounting firm of Deloitte & Touche to analyze precisely how Bush's waitress-mom would be affected by his tax package"
And he lied when he said that the Bush waitress was "a mythical single waitress who was supporting two children"
My proof is in a Time magazine article of September 2000.
Posted by: Murad
| November 3, 2008 2:29 PM
Poll: McCain's Attacks On Obama Completely Flopped
Some interesting numbers from the internals of the new NBC/WSJ poll illustrate as clearly as you could want that every one of McCain's major attack lines has been a complete flop:
* Despite months of attacks on Obama's allegedly sinister background and cultural identity, a solid majority of likely voters, 57%, say that Obama has a background and set of values they can identify with, versus only 39% who say he doesn't. Those numbers are virtually identical to McCain's, which are 57%-38%.
* Asked which would concern them more about an Obama presidency, his lack of experience or the possibility that he would raise taxes, 14% cite taxes and 20% cite inexperience. Forty-eight percent -- more than those two combined -- say that "neither is a concern." This, despite weeks of attacks on Obama as a lightweight and empty suit who wants to hike taxes on ordinary plumbers and hockey moms everywhere.
* Despite all the attacks suggesting that Obama harbors a secret and shadowy agenda that he has yet to reveal, a huge majority of 67% say that they know what Obama and Biden would do if elected.
All those lies, all for naught.
http://tinyurl.com/6n23o9
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 4:31 PM
Barack Obama's Grandmother Passes Away
****
How sad. I am sure she hoped to see the results of the election.
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 4:37 PM
National Debt Soars $500B In Under A Month
[...]
On the day President Bush was sworn in, the debt stood at $5.7 trillion. Less than eight years later, the it’s within days of having swelled $5 trillion dollars on his watch - an embarrassing milestone for a president who considers himself a conservative and an advocate of fiscal discipline.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/31/politics/main4562416.shtml
*****
Nothing conservative about that, eh?
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 4:47 PM
HOW McCAIN COULD WIN
This we guarantee: there will be far more votes disappeared by Tuesday night than the three million lost in 2004. A six-million vote swipe, quite likely, shifts 4 percent of the ballots, within the margin of error of the tightest polls.
http://www.truthout.org/110308A
Posted by: as_if!
| November 3, 2008 4:56 PM
Today's Polls, 11/3 (PM Edition)
[...]
McCain's chances, in essence, boil down to the polling being significantly wrong, for such reasons as a Bradley Effect or "Shy Tory" Effect, or extreme complacency among Democratic voters. Our model recognizes that the actual margins of error in polling are much larger than the purported ones, and that when polls are wrong, they are often wrong in the same direction.
However, even if these phenomenon are manifest to some extent, it is unlikely that they are worth a full 6-7 points for McCain. Moreover, there are at least as many reasons to think that the polls are understating Obama's support, because of such factors as the cellphone problem, his superior groundgame operation, and the substantial lead that he has built up among early voters.
McCain's chances of victory are estimated at 1.9 percent, their lowest total of the year.
fivethirtyeight.com
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 6:27 PM
Just for fun:
http://www.270towin.com/
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 6:36 PM
David,
It's ironic that you criticize use the critique
"What few of these commentators of the center and right bothered to do was to evaluate the case I (and the others) had put forward. That is, to confront the facts I had presented."
when you use that same critique to dismiss the truth of 9/11. For the sake of brevity I'll just mention two facts:
i) freefall speed of collapse of the 3 WTC structures
ii) molten metal present under all 3 structures weeks after 9/11
Posted by: hikkerguy
| November 3, 2008 7:18 PM
hikkerguy --- Oh dear.
i1) WTC 1 fell at about (2/3)g during the first few seonds (measurements from videos) and the total collapse time approximately agrees with that estimate. Far slower than feefall.
i2) WTC 2 fell at about (3/4)g during the few few seconds and then slowed down considerably, producing quite a lengthy collapse time.
ii) The only molten metal actually obsrved during cleanup was in WTC 6, probably lead from and millions of rounds of target ammunition stored ther, and in one of the towers elevator shaft pits, probably Babbitt metal used to secure the ends of elevator cables. Niether is at all remarkable.
Posted by: David B. Benson
| November 3, 2008 7:52 PM
My Wife Made Me Canvass for Barack Obama; here's what I learned...
Instead of walking the tree-lined streets near our home, my wife and I were instructed to canvass a housing project. A middle-aged white couple with clipboards could not look more out of place in this predominantly black neighborhood.
We knocked on doors and voices from behind carefully locked doors shouted, "Who is it?"
"We're from the Obama campaign," we'd answer. And just like that doors opened and folks with wide smiles came out on the porch to talk. ...
...I've learned that this election is about the heart of America. It's about the young people who are losing hope and the old people who have been forgotten. It's about those who have worked all their lives and never fully realized the promise of America, but see that promise for their grandchildren in Barack Obama. The poor see a chance, when they often have few. I saw hope in the eyes and faces in those doorways.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1103/p09s02-coop.html
VOTE!!!
Posted by: flan
| November 3, 2008 8:34 PM
flan --- Nice clip.
I voted already.
Posted by: David B. Benson
| November 3, 2008 8:39 PM
you betcha!......and we won't even ask about
The vertical support columns were too stressed with all the media attention...
and how I can park a 757 inside my garage without leaving the wings or tail outside.....
and why it is the responsibility of the Supreme Court to determine election results.....
and why 320,000 voters in Columbus and Cleveland took themselves off the rolls in 2004.....
and how Osama Bin Laden is really the guy in the October 2004 video and not the one pictures portray him to be in earlier accounts.....
and why it is always the US who must carry out retribution when UN sanctions fail.....
and of course they never found the WMDs. They never looked in lots of places, like. you know, Syria and Gaza...
and how a Bush or a Dole has held office in Washington since for nearly my entire life (since 1952)......
and how the US Debt went from under 2 trillion to over 10 trillion during the last three republican administrations. How did this happen?
It happened because the M$M doesn't ask questions, and even MSNBC, the supposed lefty station, is airing Rev Wright commercials tonight like there is nothing ending tomorrow.......
Grandpa, tell me again what a democracy is?
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 8:39 PM
flan - not nice clip, Great Post!
Blacks are silent about their feelings on this election. Knock on their door. Say hello. Ask them something about Obama. Comment on their hat, their shirt, their button. The light up with excitement. They are scared to death tonight. You and I are edgy. We have seen elections come and go and been on the wrong side more often than not, but I cannot imagine being on the wrong side of every National election America has ever held, and suspicious of every local election and the carpetbaggers that move in - like Kwame, and abuse your trust.
There is so much more at stake in this election than public policy and taxes.
This election is about the spirit and unity of the American people. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Whether the Under God was always intended is not the question. The liberty and justice has been for too few for too long.
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 8:52 PM
flan --- Oh. Yes, great post!
Posted by: David B. Benson
| November 3, 2008 8:58 PM
I guess they aren't calling the election yet.
This means we should not underestimate the number of people who watch QVC.
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 8:59 PM
*speaking of WTC...
Dr. Benson, have you and Dr. Greening heard back from the peer-review process about the study you guy's did with Dr. Bazant and his assistant?
Posted by: Alan
| November 3, 2008 9:05 PM
The National Republican Trust PAC spent $38,850 in September according to their filing with the FEC.
And all of a sudden they are blowing through millions in the last two days of the election.
Where is this coming from?
Anyone know who might be depositing large sums of cash in banks these days and who the banks might be lending to?
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 9:16 PM
A bear votes
http://www.saveourenvironment.org/abearvotes/
Posted by: Alan
| November 3, 2008 9:23 PM
"It is a foregone conclusion that Wyoming's three electoral votes will go to Sen. John McCain. It would be easy for the Star-Tribune to simply agree with the majority of voters in this red state and endorse the Republican candidate for president.
But this isn't an ordinary election, and Sen. Barack Obama has the potential to be an extraordinary leader at a time we desperately need one. The next occupant of the White House will inherit a national economy that's collapsing and two wars our nation has been fighting for years, depleting valuable resources we need to fix a multitude of domestic problems. Far too many of our nation's citizens live paycheck to paycheck, worried about whether they'll have a job next week or if a medical crisis will bankrupt them.
What America needs most in these troubled times is a president who will move the country in a positive direction. The candidate who is most likely to chart a new course that will lead us to better days is Obama. Moreover, he is the best candidate for Wyoming ...
Two of the best ways to judge presidential candidates is by looking at how they conduct their campaigns and who they select as vice president. On both fronts, Obama wins impressively."
The Casper Star-Tribune - Cheney's hometown Newspaper - endorses Obama! What a read!
Posted by: flan
| November 3, 2008 9:47 PM
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003886344
Ooops, here's the link to the endorsement of Barack Obama in the Casper Star-Tribune - Did I say it was Cheney's hometown newspaper? Ha!
Posted by: flan
| November 3, 2008 9:48 PM
STOP THE ELECTION: ACCURATE VOTE COUNT IMPOSSIBLE
http://tinyurl.com/6rfy5d
Posted by: as_if!
| November 3, 2008 9:54 PM
Best ad of this campaign
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7DdN4KH0kFQ
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 10:17 PM
and there is phony professor benson once again pretending that he is some kind of authority regarding the destruction of the WTC.
re: the alleged freefall speed of the wtc collapse; if you dropped a billiard ball from the top of the wtc IN A VACUUM, it would reach the ground in only 9 seconds - that is the actual "freefall" speed.
the 9/11 commission itself claimed that each wtc collapsed in only 10 seconds total, and that was NOT in a vacuum, so maybe you should adjust your little fractions of gravity claims accordingly.
as for the alleged molten metal at ground zero, there is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that there was indeed molten metal at ground zero, lasting for several months:
http://tinyurl.com/62x3bd
as for Bazant and his non applicable calculations, anyone with even only 1 eye in their head can simply watch a single video of a wtc "collapsing" and see that it is actually violently exploding.
The Other Fatal Flaw in Bazant's WTC Analysis:
http://tinyurl.com/6po9pa
frankly benson, i think that either you are a liar or someone has been lying to you.
probably we should just let people decide for themselves who is either the liar or the fool.
Posted by: as_if!
| November 3, 2008 11:00 PM
flan, et.al.
The CS monitor guy kinda gets it...but it is still understated.
Volunteers here from MD, TN, KY, DC and bunches from SW VA itself...
The oldest canvasser today was 77, the youngest (and one of the best, he's gonna run this planet one day!!) was is 13.
We'll all sleep a few restless hours tonight while the paid staff and others will get even less and be there to monitor poll, drive voters, etc.
What we do, we do for as many reasons as there are volunteers. The one thing in common is HOPE, even if that hope is only for something better.
Long lines are expected, even in the smallest precincts here, tomorrow. Providence has promised another weather-wonder day, for most of the state. We will fight for every registered voter to be counted. We will insure they will have backup if their voting rights are challenged.
I urge you all to prepare to hold local, county and state election officials to a fair and honest vote process.
Tomorrow we demand something better, something that makes some sense, something...Hopeful.
I thank you all collectively and individually for your words of support and encouragement.
-T
Posted by: Hajji
| November 3, 2008 11:05 PM
Failed States: America and Iraq, Rotted by War Crime
And so the great historical presidential campaign of 2008 is finally at an end. By every reasonable and legitimate measure, Barack Obama will be the winner. But of course "reasonable and legitimate measures" mean little when dealing with deliberately fomented chaos and chicanery of the American electoral process, the laughingstock of the rest of the world, whose people stand in slackjawed amazement as they watch and wait -- in dreadful impotence -- to see which hegemon will emerge from the stormcloud of filth, lies, ambition and money that howls around the campaign trail.
http://tinyurl.com/5sjcr8
Posted by: as_if!
| November 3, 2008 11:06 PM
Hajji, Godspeed to you in Virginia. My son is in Richmond, works for the DOD Public Affairs Dept. He will be voting for Obama.
As we all will in Michigan and all across this country.
For all of us, everywhere, Change is going to Win tomorrow.
Play this in your hearts tomorrow.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7K5jpWQpiFI
Posted by: geof01
| November 3, 2008 11:13 PM
American Tune Lyrics
Artist(Band): Simon & Garfunkel
Words & music by Paul Simon
Many's the time I've been mistaken
And many times confused
Yes, and I've often felt forsaken
And certainly misused
Oh, but I'm all right, I'm all right
I'm just weary to my bones
Still, you don't expect to be
Bright and bon vivant
So far away from home, so far away from home
And I don't know a soul who's not been battered
I don't have a friend who feels at ease
I don't know a dream that's not been shattered
or driven to its knees
but it's all right, it's all right
for we lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the
road we're traveling on
I wonder what's gone wrong
I can't help it, I wonder what's gone wrong
And I dreamed I was dying
I dreamed that my soul rose unexpectedly
And looking back down at me
Smiled reassuringly
And I dreamed I was flying
And high up above my eyes could clearly see
The Statue of Liberty
Sailing away to sea
And I dreamed I was flying
We come on the ship they call the Mayflower
We come on the ship that sailed the moon
We come in the age's most uncertain hours
and sing an American tune
Oh, and it's alright, it's all right, it's all right
You can't be forever blessed
Still, tomorrow's going to be another working day
And I'm trying to get some rest
That's all I'm trying to get some rest
Posted by: capt
| November 3, 2008 11:32 PM
G'nite, Capt...
Dixville Notch votes in 20 minutes...
How'm I supposed to sleep?
Posted by: Hajji
| November 3, 2008 11:38 PM
"No matter what happens tomorrow, I'm going to feel good about how it has turned out because all of you have created this remarkable campaign. She is gone home. And she died peacefully in her sleep, with my sister at her side. And so, there is great joy as well as tears. I'm not going to talk about it too long because it is hard, a little, to talk about.
I want everybody to know though a little bit about her. Her name was Madelyn Dunham. And she was born in Kansas in a small town in 1922. Which means she lived through the Great Depression, she lived through two world wars, she watched her husband go off to war, while she looked after her baby and worked on a bomber assembly line. When her husband came back they benefited from the GI bill, they moved west and eventually ended up in Hawaii.
She was somebody who was a very humble person, a very plainspoken person. She is one of those quiet heroes we have all across America, who are not famous, their names are not in the newspapers, but each and every day they work hard. They look after their families. They sacrifice for their children, and their grandchildren. They aren't seeking the limelight. All they try to do is do the right thing. And in this crowd, there are a lot of quiet heroes like that, people like that, mothers and fathers and grandparents who have worked hard and sacrificed all their lives and the satisfaction that they get is in seeing their children or maybe their grandchildren or their great-grandchildren live a better life than they did. That is what America is about. That is what we are fighting for."
-Rest easy Mrs. Dunham on a life well lived, a job well done.
For her, for them, for all of us...
G'nite
Posted by: Hajji
| November 3, 2008 11:44 PM
Obama wins! (Dixville Notch)
Posted by: Alan
| November 4, 2008 12:12 AM
K, I tried to post a funny-as-hell clip that was posted at another blog by Carol. I got some kind of error message that it was being held up from being posted. Was it because I put in the link to the other blog, or was it cause the link was a longgg one and I shoulda went to tinyurl with it? Or is there another reason I don't know about??
btw, the score at Dixville Notch was 15-Obama, 6-for the grumpy one.
Posted by: Alan
| November 4, 2008 12:29 AM
I am conducting a poll through election night to measure voters' conscience votes versus their actual planned votes.
This is part of some research I am doing during this election cycle. The results have been surprising thus far. Add your voice to the poll and tell your friends, as I am hoping to gather as many responses by tomorrow night as possible.
http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/363596
Thank you for your help!
Posted by: Ray
| November 4, 2008 12:33 AM
Carol's funny link...
http://tinyurl.com/5vh7v8
Posted by: Alan
| November 4, 2008 12:48 AM
Another one of our Texan nutjobs...
Education official refuses to retract Obama terror claim
AUSTIN — State Board of Education member Cynthia Dunbar isn't backing down from her claim that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is plotting with terrorists to attack the U.S.
The Texas Freedom Network, a watchdog group that monitors the board, released a public statement on Monday asking Dunbar to retract the statement.
"I don't have anything in there that would be retractable," said Dunbar, R-Richmond. "Those are my personal opinions and I don't think the language is questionable."
In a column posted on the Christian Worldview Network Web site, Dunbar wrote that a terrorist attack on America during the first six months of an Obama administration "will be a planned effort by those with whom Obama truly sympathizes to take down the America that is threat to tyranny."
She also suggests Obama would seek to expand his power by declaring martial law throughout the country.
read the rest here...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6092712.html
Posted by: Alan
| November 4, 2008 12:56 AM
Alan,
The only thing I've run into that gets a message like that is when one tries to include more than two links in a post?
Posted by: capt
| November 4, 2008 7:11 AM
I voted in person this morning. My past experience is that I'm canceling out one vote in my neighborhood of GOPs, but this morning I waited for an hour in a sea of human faces that had a face of hope and change. And there were about 3 of the first 65 that had disdain for the rest of us and were oblivious to that change.
I stood with a Russian immigrant and and his wife, so proud to be Americans. He commented about a recent trip to Utah, and how the native language at Walmart was Spanish. He thought that was great. Why shouldn't these people be welcomed? They want the same things that we all want.
I looked hard, but saw no native Americans. May God forgive us for that, and help us make this great nation one of peace, prosperity and freedom for all.
Posted by: geof01
| November 4, 2008 8:44 AM
"The only thing I've run into that gets a message like that is when one tries to include more than two links in a post? "
Thanks Capt, but it was the longgg link. I tried it again with just the long link and got the same error message. Then I went to tinyurl with it and it posted ok.
Thanks for the help though.
Posted by: Alan
| November 4, 2008 9:01 AM
Thanks, Craig. Whether one agrees or not with Bush's positions, the fact is that his administration has manipulated, distorted and fabricated the truth whenever possible to pursue its ends. What a nightmare the last 8 years have been.
Nice thought on Molly Ivins, Studs Terkel, Paul Newman, and Paul Wellstone - they really did fight the good fight against all that was worst about this Administration. RIP to them all.
Posted by: billp
| November 4, 2008 10:21 AM
Whether one agrees or not with Bush's positions, the fact is that his administration has been truthful. On the other hand the liberal left has manipulated, distorted and fabricated the truth whenever possible to pursue its ends.
Posted by: Murad
| November 4, 2008 3:13 PM
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