The MSM Weighs In: McCain (As of Now) Is the Liar in the Race

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It's as close as it gets to the most MS of MSM outfits declaring, McCain's lying!

I'm referring to a news article on the front-page of Saturday's New York Times that starts:

Harsh advertisements and negative attacks are a staple of presidential campaigns, but Senator John McCain has drawn an avalanche of criticism this week from Democrats, independent groups and even some Republicans for regularly stretching the truth in attacking Senator Barack Obama's record and positions.

Though the piece uses the usual framework of he said/he said--that is, others are saying that McCain is lying--it does present the evidence that McCain's recent assertions about Obama are outrageously false. It also quotes prominent Republicans saying that McCain and running mate Sarah Palin have vigorously mugged the truth in recent days. Though the article was, no doubt, in the works for a day or two, it seems as if comic Joy Behar of The View has pushed the media along. At least, she can claim credit for beating the Times to an obvious point.

Meanwhile, the "Factchecker" column of The Washington Post has awarded McCain four Pinocchios--that's as high as its lying scale goes--for claiming Friday on The View that Palin, as governor of Alaska, did not seek federal earmarks. That's an outright falsehood. But the column felt compelled to go a step further:

Some readers have complained that I have been soft on the Democrats over the last week, while awarding a string of Pinocchios to the McCain campaign. I would like to think that this simply reflects the current state of the campaign: the McCainites have been on the offensive over the last week, tearing into Obama with a series of questionable TV ads. If you think it reflects bias on my part, there is a simple remedy: send in specific examples of Pinocchio-esque statements by Obama and the Dems, and I will check them out.

Both newspapers are essentially saying that at this stage McCain is the liar in the race. (The Post's "Factchecker" gave Palin a pass on her first week--and did not score several of her facts-challenged assertions.) No wonder the Republicans and the McCain campaign are trying to whip up a war against the so-called "Eastern media elite"--for a campaign narrative is close to being born: the fall of the Straight Talker. For the Obama camp, the question is, how best can it exploit this twist-in-the-making?

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  1. Michael Moor'es new documentary. Oliver Stones "Bush" The Presidential and Vice-Presidential Debates. Registration. Registration. Registration. Saturday Night Live. The Daily Show. Countdown. Rachel Maddow. Air America Radio. Move-On.Org.

    Time to rip them liars a new ____Hole!

    Keep sending the $25 bucks to Obama, the DNC and Move-on.

    And talk the trash to everyone you see. I only know 2-3 people really convinced that McCain is going to get their vote.

    Posted by: geof01 Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 5:52 PM

  2. DC,

    The only question is - is Barack ruthless?

    Can he play hardball while maintaining his integrity?

    For now it seems like McCain has lost the kit glove treatment - he had to demonize the press - that is part of the plan.

    Now the press will oblige him and play the liar meme.

    Barack should stay on the up and up. The cons have tried to make Barack as a "he is too" but so far to little or no effect.

    Thanks for all you do!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM

  3. geof01,

    "Keep sending the $25 bucks to Obama, the DNC and Move-on."


    Done, done and done -

    Now: Pete and repeat were sitting on a fence - Pete fell off - who was left?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 6:00 PM

  4. Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 6:02 PM

  5. We still need to bring the discussion back to the real issues.

    McCain as a liar is a distraction as much as the content of his lies.

    Issues, issues, issues.

    I bet people respond if given a chance.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 6:06 PM

  6. JILL IS A TRUE HERO!
    the people down there need her and more like her.
    she will be fine, hajji.
    james ha.

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 6:17 PM

  7. Obama campaign seizes on Greenspan's tax comments

    [...]

    Noting that McCain has in the past expressed strong admiration for Greenspan, a fellow Republican, the Obama campaign said the former Fed chief's comments were evidence that McCain's economic plan was fiscally reckless.

    "John McCain has said his professor and mentor is Alan Greenspan. And that's why Alan's comments yesterday are so very important," Obama economic adviser Laura Tyson told reporters in a conference call.

    "He's saying, 'Look, these numbers just don't add up and it's not good for the U.S. economy to finance large tax cuts with borrowed money."'

    During Greenspan's tenure at the Fed, McCain once joked that his role in inspiring confidence in the economy was so vital that if the Fed chief were to die in office he would put dark sunglasses on him and "prop him up" as was done to a deceased character in the 1989 movie "Weekend at Bernie's."

    McCain has also suggested he would lean heavily on Greenspan's book, "The Age of Turbulence," for advice on economics should he win the White House.

    http://tinyurl.com/62z29s

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM

  8. Obama camp suggests lies over Palin visit to Iraq

    [...]

    Lt. Col. Dave Osborn, commander of the 3d Battalion, 207th Infantry of the Alaska National Guard, who was in charge of the 570 local troops serving in Kuwait and Iraq, said Palin did not cross in Iraq.

    "You have to have permission to go into a lot of areas, and (the crossing) is where her permissions were," Osborn told the newspaper during a telephone interview Friday.

    That discrepancy prompted a blistering memorandum to campaign reporters by aides to Democratic nominee Barack Obama. The Illinois senator and his staff have been criticized in some party circles lately for not responding forcefully enough to McCain and Palin since her surprise addition to the Republican ticket.

    "Since naming Gov. Palin as their vice presidential nominee, the McCain campaign has distorted, distracted and outright lied to the American people about her record in a desperate attempt to hide the fact that a McCain/Palin administration would be nothing more than a continuation of the failed Bush policies of the last eight years," the memo read.

    Among other things, the memo cited the Iraq-visit dispute, as well as Palin's claims to be a fiscal conservative despite significant growth in the Alaska state budget.

    http://tinyurl.com/5ljjs5

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 7:25 PM

  9. Turns out that Palin IS much more experienced than she might seem. In her short political career she learned how to stack government with unqualified cronies, how to game email to avoid accountability, how to ket her oil field worker hubby make crucial decisions on state budgeting, how to almost never show up for work (while paying herself a per diem to stay home), and how to generally play political hardball.

    http://marccooper.com/

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 7:27 PM

  10. YouTube censors documentary on Palin's churches

    [...]

    On June 8, 2008 in the Wasilla Assembly of God, her church of over 25 years, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin declared United States military forces in Iraq to be "out on a task that is from God." Head Pastor of that church, Ed Kalnins, has also made statements indicating that he views the current conflict in Iraq as part of an apocalyptic end-times struggle. Palin recently stated her enthusiasm, in a widely televised interview, for war with Russia - a country that, along with the United States, possesses vast stockpiles of intercontinental nuclear ballistic missiles. The American public has a right to know if Palin believes, as does the Third Wave movement in which her churches take part, that she has a divine mandate or "anointing" to do battle to purge those she views as evil from the world.

    Most Americans do not want an American jihad to conquer the world in the name of God let alone a global nuclear war. Judging from the churches Palin attends and from her public statements we have to take very seriously the prospect of having a Vice President, a heartbeat away from the United States presidency, who holds such apocalyptic goals.

    http://tinyurl.com/5mduk7

    *****

    We sometimes forget Hitler considered himself a Christian and was a vegetarian - non-smoker non-drinker.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 7:41 PM

  11. This is a headline from today from ConsortiumNews.com

    http://consortiumnews.com/2008/091308.html

    I thought that it was pretty sad that the question had to be asked in the first place. Why do we even have to question this?

    Here's the headline...

    Will McCain-Palin Lies Hurt Them?

    By Robert Parry
    September 13, 2008

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 8:46 PM

  12. From the NY Times...

    "...when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.

    Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages.

    When Ms. Palin had to cut her first state budget, she avoided the legion of frustrated legislators and mayors. Instead, she huddled with her budget director and her husband, Todd, an oil field worker who is NOT (emphasis mine - flan) a state employee, and vetoed millions of dollars of legislative projects.

    And four months ago, a Wasilla blogger, Sherry Whitstine, who chronicles the governor’s career with an astringent eye, answered her phone to hear an assistant to the governor on the line, she said.

    “You should be ashamed!” Ivy Frye, the assistant, told her. “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!”

    Ms. Palin walks the national stage as a small-town foe of “good old boy” politics and a champion of ethics reform. The charismatic 44-year-old governor draws enthusiastic audiences and high approval ratings. And as the Republican vice-presidential nominee, she points to her management experience while deriding her Democratic rivals, Senators Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr., as speechmakers who never have run anything.

    But an examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics — she sometimes calls local opponents “haters” — contrasts with her carefully crafted public image.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    "Haters" sounds eerily like "Evil-doers". This chick was made for the GOP. She is being called a female George W Bush and they are right. Notice how, once again, Todd (First Dude) Palin is right there in the middle of everything. That is scary.

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM

  13. Actually - I think she is a female Dick Cheney...more from the NY Times...

    "Rick Steiner, a University of Alaska professor, sought the e-mail messages of state scientists who had examined the effect of global warming on polar bears. (Ms. Palin said the scientists had found no ill effects, and she has sued the federal government to block the listing of the bears as endangered.) An administration official told Mr. Steiner that his request would cost $468,784 to process.

    When Mr. Steiner finally obtained the e-mail messages — through a federal records request — he discovered that state scientists had in fact agreed that the bears were in danger, records show.

    “Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 9:19 PM

  14. In Anchorage, an Anti-Palin Protest


    ANCHORAGE -- A couple of hours after Gov. Sarah Palin returned to the Outside, as Alaskans call the Lower 48, her local critics swarmed an Anchorage intersection to correct the widespread impression that the whole of the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

    The midday protest outside a city library drew a crowd in the high hundreds -- perhaps surging past a thousand -- from the city's relatively liberal environs, who seemed very happy to see one another and be reminded that they are not alone.

    "The whole thing grew out of frustration," said Charla Sterne, one of the organizers, who like several people at the rally declined to say where they worked (several said they were state employees and feared retribution).

    "Last week this was just ten women sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement," Sterne said.

    A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

    http://tinyurl.com/5rvn83

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 9:59 PM

  15. Campaign of lies disgraces McCain

    [...]

    McCain's straight talk has become a toxic mix of lies and double-speak. It is leaving a permanent stain on his reputation for integrity, and it is a short-term strategy that eventually will backfire with the very types of independent-thinking voters that were so attracted to him.

    http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article808444.ece

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 10:09 PM

  16. Keep talking Palin down all you want to Libs. She scares you and you know it. Anything that will be dug up on her will be ignored simply because the MSM sat on known information about Clinton in 92 and did not reveal it to the american people. Your ignorance and your lies about Palin are only going to be believed by other Liberals who would not vote for McCain/Palin to begin with. So, have fun digging and wasting your time preaching to your liberal choir.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 10:47 PM

  17. Gov. Palin’s Worldview

    [...]

    It was bad enough that Ms. Palin’s performance in the first televised interviews she has done since she joined the Republican ticket was so visibly scripted and lacking in awareness.

    What made it so much worse is the strategy for which the Republicans have made Ms. Palin the frontwoman: win the White House not on ideas, but by denigrating experience, judgment and qualifications.

    The idea that Americans want leaders who have none of those things — who are so blindly certain of what Ms. Palin calls “the mission” that they won’t even pause for reflection — shows a contempt for voters and raises frightening questions about how Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin plan to run this country.

    One of the many bizarre moments in the questioning by ABC News’s Charles Gibson was when Ms. Palin, the governor of Alaska, excused her lack of international experience by sneering that Americans don’t want “somebody’s big fat résumé maybe that shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment where, yes, they’ve had opportunities to meet heads of state.”

    http://tinyurl.com/5fs728

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 11:12 PM

  18. Anti-Palin rally draws hundreds in Anchorage

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Hundreds of people showed up in Anchorage today to protest the policies of Gov. Sarah Palin -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain's choice for a running mate.

    The protesters lined a busy street near the city's main library building and waved signs and chanted "Obama!"

    http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=9004585

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 11:22 PM

  19. A chancer's choice

    The fundamental question is whether John McCain himself is fit for the presidency

    The fundamental question raised by the choice of Sarah Palin as the vice-presidential candidate for the Republicans is not whether she is fit for that position. It is whether John McCain himself is fit for the presidency. The answer must be that in picking for his running mate a woman who is clearly incapable of taking charge of the country if he should die or become seriously ill, Mr McCain has revealed the essential recklessness of his character.

    http://tinyurl.com/5rk6bs

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 13, 2008 11:24 PM

  20. How in the world can you question McCains ability to be president without addressing Obama's ability to be? You ae so blindly biased you cannot see!

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:06 AM

  21. "" Your ignorance and your lies about Palin are only going to be believed by other Liberals who would not vote for McCain/Palin to begin with. ""

    a fine endorsement of Palin's presidential qualifications!
    here is how it done:

    McCain/Palin - vote for war and religious extremism in '08!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 1:32 AM

  22. Palin: Not Governor of Alaska, Visited it once on Spring Break


    The Republican campaign of Sarah Palin admitted on Satuday that contrary to their previous assertions,she had not actually visited US troops inside Iraq, only visiting a border checkpoint while she was in Kuwait. They further admitted that she had not actually been in Ireland, but just sat in the plane while it refueled there.

    They furthermore admited that far from rejecting earmarks she had requested $192 million in earmarks from the Federal government last February. In her first year in office, she had requested $550 million in earmarks. Since Alaska has a small population, these are large requests per capita.

    Then, it became clear that Alaska does not actually produce 20 percent of the energy America uses, contrary to what Palin said in her speech. It is more like 2.4 to 3.5 percent depending what exactly she meant by her vague statement. That's wrong by a factor of something like 6.

    http://tinyurl.com/5m2hc7

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 9:42 AM

  23. Truth is Neither Right nor Left, It is Just truth

    [...]

    One doesn't have to be a "leftie" or a "rightie" to recognize inappropriate behavior on the part of those who are in or seek power. A lie by any other name is still a lie, and truth is neither right nor left, it is just truth.

    http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/davidow/38

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:04 AM

  24. ARMY TIMES McCain on FCS: Flip-flop or fib?
    __________________________


    By Bradley Peniston - Staff writer
    Posted : Saturday Sep 13, 2008 6:58:20 EDT

    Has Sen. John McCain renounced his longtime antagonism toward the Army’s Future Combat Systems?

    On Sept. 8, the Republican presidential candidate told a rally crowd in Lee’s Summit, Mo., about an Obama video message to a liberal advocacy group.

    “He promised them he would, quote, ‘slow our development of Future Combat Systems,’” McCain said, according to wire reports. “This is not a time to slow our development of Future Combat Systems.”

    Flashback to July, however, when his campaign furnished McCain’s economic plan to The Washington Post, declaring that “there are lots of procurements — Airborne Laser, [C-17] Globemaster, Future Combat System [sic] — that should be ended and the entire Pentagon budget should be scrubbed.”

    In fact, McCain has long criticized the over-budget, behind-schedule FCS program. In 2005, he blasted the Army for allowing the program to balloon to $161 billion, and forced the service to rewrite the main FCS contract.
    ___________________________

    Why does the "Army Times" hate America?

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:08 AM

  25. McCain on FCS: Flip-flop or fib?

    [...]

    Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute called it deceitful.

    “McCain’s interpretation of Obama’s position is typical of the way in which the Republicans have twisted Democratic views in order to undercut their opponents and at the same time obscure the past positions of the Republicans,” Thompson said. “Future Combat Systems is the centerpiece of Army modernization. However, McCain has been more critical of it than anyone else in the chamber. Obama has been much more detailed and thoughtful in his comments about future military investment than McCain’s very superficial statements.”

    Officials with the McCain campaign did not return phone calls and emails requesting clarification.

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/defense_mccain_FCS_091208/

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:12 AM

  26. JINX! (well U R 4 minutes ahead of me)

    Darn lefty Army Times, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:13 AM

  27. ‘Alaska Women Reject Palin’ Rally is HUGE!

    [...]

    Never, have I seen anything like it in my 17 and a half years living in Anchorage. The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and they clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90 counter-demonstrators). This was the biggest political rally ever, in the history of the state. I was absolutely stunned. The second most amazing thing is how many people honked and gave the thumbs up as they drove by. And even those that didn’t honk looked wide-eyed and awe-struck at the huge crowd that was growing by the minute. This just doesn’t happen here.

    Then, the infamous Eddie Burke showed up. He tried to talk to the media, and was instantly surrounded by a group of 20 people who started shouting O-BA-MA so loud he couldn’t be heard. Then passing cars started honking in a rhythmic pattern of 3, like the Obama chant, while the crowd cheered, hooted and waved their signs high.

    So, if you’ve been doing the math… Yes. The Alaska Women Reject Palin rally was significantly bigger than Palin’s rally that got all the national media coverage! So take heart, sit back, and enjoy the photo gallery. Feel free to spread the pictures around (links are appreciated) to anyone who needs to know that Sarah Palin most definitely does not speak for all Alaskans. The citizens of Alaska, who know her best, have things to say.

    http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

    ******

    From those who know her best - OUCH!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:25 AM

  28. Obama's brains and education give him a leg up on McCain whose education stinks, his judgement stinks, his lack of morals, ethics and integrity all stink.

    Posted by: kalpal Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:33 AM

  29. John McCain likes "Lipstick on a Pig" references too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

    How can anyone trust this guy?

    It is a matter of judgment and temperment.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:43 AM

  30. Huck Makes Fool of Hannity and McCain on Pig-Lipstick

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXokM9TaxeA

    Even Huckabee sounds more reasonable than McCain and his knee-jerk response team.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:46 AM

  31. John McCain is a Dishonorable Liar

    [...]

    John McCain has dishonored himself for the manner in which he has conducted his campaign. He has repeatedly, pathologically lied to the American people. And, even when given an opportunity to retract his lies, he has instead stuck with the lies.

    At the service forum the other night, he had the gall to blame Barack Obama for his scurrilous, deeply dishonorable campaign:

    The campaign's negative tone "would have been very different if Senator Obama had accepted my request to appear in town hall meetings across America."

    So, Sen. McCain--your pathological dishonesty is Barack Obama's fault?

    [snip]

    John McCain is a dishonorable liar. He possesses neither the moral fitness nor personal character to be president of the United States.

    http://tinyurl.com/6dgx3r

    *****

    Seems a bit odd the "cons" would support a liar and a dishonorable amoral creep. Then again maybe not.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:28 AM

  32. Sarah Palin Naked


    She said "nucular." Twice.

    I realized three things tonight. For one, if you are a McCain/Palin/Bush voter, you and I do not have a difference of opinion. We have a difference in brain power. Two, she really is as ignorant as I feared. And, three, she really is kinda hot. Basically, I want to have sex with her on my Barack Obama sheets while my wife reads aloud from the Constitution. (My wife is cool with this if I promise to "first wipe off Palin's tranny makeup." I married well.)

    Now, I want to be clear and speak directly to those of you who LOVED that Palin interview. You're an idiot. I mean that. This is not one of those cases where we're going to agree to disagree. This isn't one of those situations where we debate it passionately and then walk away thinking that the other guy is wrong but argued well. I'm not going to think of you as a thoughtful but misguided person with different ideas who still really cares about the country and the world. No, sorry, not this time. This time, if you watched those interview excerpts and weren't scared out of your freakin' mind, then you're mentally ill, mentally disabled, or mentally disturbed. What you are NOT is responsible, informed, curious, thoughtful, mature, educated, empathetic, or remotely serious. I mean it.

    But I like to think that anyone can change.

    Stop voting for people you want to have a beer with. Stop voting for folksy. Stop voting for people who remind you of your neighbor. Stop voting for the ideologically intransigent, the staggeringly ignorant, and the blazingly incompetent.

    Vote for someone smarter than you. Vote for someone who inspires you. Vote for someone who has not only traveled the world but who has also shown a deep understanding and compassion for it. The stakes are real and they're terrifyingly high. This election matters. It matters. It really matters. Let me say that one more time. This. Really. Matters.

    http://tinyurl.com/3v6olc

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:34 AM

  33. Politicians who intentionally lie to the public are engaging in a Betrayal of the Public Trust and it should be deemed unethical and a part of the past as we move toward a more Holistic way of life here in America. And Media as the Third-wheel of Democracy should not be silent and complicit on such lies and distortion!

    Great Film Exposing John McCain’s Lies — Pass it on!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk -- Are we finally pulling back the Curtin on the Wizards?

    Lastly, Ground Zero is a Symbol and a message of Republicans' failed policies and a gaping Wound, that after 7 years Ground Zero is still a hole, still zero -- that we were unable to lift ourselves out of the ashes and make ourselves whole again. You see, nothing from nothing leaves nothing and that is not Change we can believe in. Enough is Enough!

    And finally, Is the Bloom coming off of Palin, as Alaska Women Against Palin Rally is HUGE!

    http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska...

    Posted by: bacaangel Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:51 AM

  34. Greenspan: This Is The Worst Economy I've Ever Seen


    Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan offered a woeful outlook of America's economic situation on Sunday, saying the crisis with the country's financial institutions was as dire as he had ever seen in his long career, and predicting that one or more of those institutions would likely collapse in the near future.

    "Oh, by far," Greenspan said, when asked if the situation was the worst he had seen in his career. "There's no question that this is in the process of outstripping anything I've seen and it still is not resolved and still has a way to go and, indeed, it will continue to be a corrosive force until the price of homes in the United States stabilizes. That will induce a series of events around the globe which will stabilize the system."

    http://tinyurl.com/5dpve9

    ******

    Chant with me here:

    Four more years! Four more wars! (repeat as needed)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:55 AM

  35. A picture is worth a thousand words:

    http://tinyurl.com/63sazw

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:58 AM

  36. Live From New York, It's Sarah (Tiny Fey) Palin!


    ABC News' David Wright and Alyssa Litoff Report: As comedienne Tina Fey debuted her impression of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live, the governor and her staff were watching from 30,000 feet.

    Palin was on board her campaign jet flying from Reno to Denver as 11:30 PM Eastern rolled around. But the show was available on the Jetblue charter's satellite TV system.

    Standing alongside SNL cast member Amy Poehler who was impersonating Hillary Clinton, Fey's Palin extolled her foreign policy expertise in a flat midwestern accent: "I can see Russia from my house!"

    There were howls of laughter from the sizeable press corps covering Palin's first foray on the campaign trail without her running man as a chaperone.

    But, from the front of the plane, silence. The flight attendants assured us Palin and her entourage were watching. What she thought, though, is anybody's guess.

    Palin has yet to say so much as hello to the press corps.

    The campaign is doing its best to keep Palin well away from inquisitive reporters, going so far as to book the press corps into a separate hotel from the candidate.

    http://tinyurl.com/5vvn43

    *****

    I guess Palin didn't get the joke? (that makes it even funnier)

    lolololololo

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:02 PM

  37. Interesting Question


    If John McCain were still in the Navy what consequences might he face for being caught telling a long series of lies?

    --Josh Marshall

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:10 PM

  38. Consequences

    Yesterday I asked what consequences John MccCain might face for repeated instances of lying if he were still in the Navy. The UCMJ covers official lies and, more generally, immoral conduct. But there's also the US Naval Academy Honor Concept. The USNA makes clear it's not a 'code', in that it's not a specific set of rules but a general statement of moral conduct. But in the more colloquial sense most of us understand, it's the Academy's honor code, the rules of conduct midshipman are supposed to live by and against which they are judged.

    The first two lines of the Concept are ...

    Midshipmen are persons of integrity: They stand for that which is right. They tell the truth and ensure that the full truth is known. They do not lie.

    --Josh Marshall

    ******

    McCain knows better, he used to be honorable. It is sad and a cryin' shame what he has become. How can any thinking person respect a dishonorable liar?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:14 PM

  39. McCain vs McCain

    http://tinyurl.com/59ntk2

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:23 PM

  40. Obama: McCain's Economic Message Out of Touch

    ABC News' Tahman Bradley Reports: Sen. Barack Obama took aim at Sen. John McCain's economic message, saying his presidential rival does not have a vision for moving the economy forward.

    Obama, D-Ill., told ABC's Chris Cuomo, "You would be hard-pressed to explain to me what John McCain's economic vision is about how he's gonna get this economy back on track. That, I believe, is somebody who is out of touch with what is -- should be the central question of this election."


    Watch the entire Cuomo interview with Obama Monday on "Good Morning America".

    With the campaigns trading barbs over a host of issues that go beyond the candidates' records and positions, anticipation for the upcoming presidential debates has grown. In the early part of the summer, McCain, R-Ariz., proposed weekly town hall meetings with Obama so that the candidates could debate their policy positions. Obama was accused by the McCain campaign of ducking the substantive meetings. Asked why he doesn't pick up the phone and agree to the meetings, Obama called the town hall proposal a "gimmick."

    "This whole thing about town halls I think is a little bit of a gimmick," he told Cuomo.

    "The reason that we're not talking about the issues doesn't have to do with the fact that we didn't have town halls. The reason that we're not talking about the issues is because John McCain has shown a lack of interest in talking about the issues. That's how their campaign's been run."

    http://tinyurl.com/6adwnd

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:41 PM

  41. Jill and team are setting up in Galveston Hospital. Have only seen a couple hundred survivors evacuated so far.

    They've only treated a few folks so far, but SAR are only now heading to the southern end of Galveston Island.

    She wants folks to know they're ok...and appreciate the good thoughts and kind words.

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:47 PM

  42. TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads


    [...]

    Isn't it the height of wackadoodlery that McCain continues to stipulate in public that he went negative because Obama refused to go along with his town hall meetings? Look: I don't think McCain was necessarily being insincere or attempting some trickery when he proposed those things, okay. And maybe the Obama campaign would have fared just fined by going along with them. But DEAR SWEET JEEBUS: McCain's inability to LET IT GO and MOVE ON is really, really disturbing! If this is how he's going to govern - fueled by penny-ante grudges that are blown into wide declarations of juvenile vindictiveness - then I don't want him to have the nuclear football.

    http://tinyurl.com/6qzva6

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:57 PM

  43. Jill is an angel!

    Thanks for the update Hajji

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 12:58 PM

  44. I contributed money to McCain's campaign in 2000 because I thought he was an honorable man and not a sleazy, lying politician who will do and say anything to win. I was wrong. The 2000 McCain happily engages in distortions and outright falsehoods. I don't care who he's running against, I'm voting against him because for so long he made hay out of being better than the others. He isn't.

    Posted by: billp Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 3:04 PM

  45. Saudi judge condemns 'immoral TV'

    The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7613575.stm

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:07 PM

  46. If Palin scares you half as much as you sound then she was the right choice and she would make a fine VP as well as a President. Just the fact that she scares the panties off libreal males and the boxers off liberal women shows that she is more than capable.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:22 PM

  47. "Sen. Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, have given an average of $369 per year to charities during the past decade, according to tax returns posted today to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign Web site."

    "Senator Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, claimed $995 in charitable gifts in 2007 on the joint return with his wife. That figure is 0.3 percent of the couple’s claimed income of nearly $320,000."

    "Sen. Obama, and his wife, Michelle, donated $240,000 in 2007, or about 5.7 percent of the couple’s $4.2-million in reported income."

    "By comparison, Sen. John McCain, the Republican Presidential nominee, in 2007 reported $405,409 in total income and contributed $105,467, or 26 percent of his total income, to charity."

    Biden gives 0.3 percent of his incomes, Obama gives 5.7 percent (for he AND Michelle), and McCain gives 26 percent of his earnings (not counting his wife's contributions)!!!!!

    So, who cares more for the less fortunate??? lololo

    Cheers

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM

  48. Nail on the head, Euro-style:

    "A common theme running through much of European commentary is that Palin lacks qualifications; it is a critique European elites could, but will not, apply to Obama, presumably because he is a Democrat, and thus ideologically acceptable to Europe’s enlightened class. Many Europeans lament that Palin is (according to Europeans) pushing the US presidential election into a battle of values rather than of policies, as if there is any real substance to Obama."

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:29 PM

  49. The "Gibson" bounce -

    "Could it be that the McCain-Palin ticket is seeing a "Charlie Gibson bounce" in their poll numbers? Perhaps.

    In today's Rasmussen Reports daily tracking poll, McCain broke out of a week or more or less being tied with Obama to show a 3% point lead at 50-47%.

    It also marked the first plus 50 day for the McCain Palin ticket. Now, the signficance of this poll vis a vis Gibson is tdoay's Rasmussen tracking poll includees surveys taken Thursday, Friday and Saturday. In other words, this was the first poll including only surveys conducted after the first excerpts of the Palin-Gibson interview hit the news and it replaced the last day of surveys conducted before that happened."

    Thanks, Charlie!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:33 PM

  50. "Speaking of polls, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been deemed the most popular governor in America. For a time immediately after she took office in 2006, her approval rating was above 90. In July, the Hays Research Center set her number at 80, and throughout her tenure, her rating has never fallen below 65 in any survey. On Wednesday, Rasmussen Reports said its most recent poll found 72 percent of Alaskan adults view her favorably, including a staggering 56 percent who view her very favorably."


    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:36 PM

  51. "John McCain’s “Straight Talk Express” zoomed past Barack Obama yesterday in a series of presidential polls.

    But the news is not all bad for Obama, with some voters aproving of his values, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll.

    Poll points include:

    McCain leading Obama 48 to 44 percent overall, with the GOP ticket still holding the post-convention bump.

    Obama up by 5 points with women, but McCain ahead by 12 points among white women.

    Sarah Palin ranked higher, at 42 percent, than either McCain or Obama when white women were asked which candidate shares their values and principles “a lot.”

    Obama has an 18-percentage-point lead among voters who said they look more to a contender’s values and views than experience.

    Yesterday’s Gallup daily poll puts McCain up 48 percent to 45 percent over Obama among registered voters.

    Yesterday’s Rasmussen daily poll also shows McCain up by 3 points.

    Obama is OK, as long as you don't require EXPERIENCE in a PRESIDENTIAL candidate!!!!

    Cheers

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM

  52. To: Interested Parties

    Fr: Obama Campaign

    Re: McCain’s Team of Lobbyists Grows, As They Plan for a Lobbyist-Run White House

    Dt: September 14, 2008

    Joining the ranks of the seven lobbyists running McCain’s campaign, William Timmons, a top Washington lobbyist, has been named to plan McCain’s transition effort. With at least 177 lobbyists helping advise, raise money and run his campaign, there was little doubt who would be influencing McCain’s White House, should he win, but this appointment just confirms: a John McCain White House will be organized, managed and influenced by lobbyists and the same old Washington politics John McCain has decried. Campaigning on reform while surrounding himself with lobbyists for the oil industry, big drug companies and foreign interests doesn’t seem much like change, and nothing shows that more than naming a top Washington lobbyist to plan his transition.

    "We know John McCain’s campaign is run by Washington lobbyists, and we just learned that he has hired one of Washington’s most famous and powerful lobbyists to staff his White House. It’s not a Team of Mavericks who’ll be running Washington if John McCain wins — it’s a Team of Lobbyists." Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor

    See below for more information on William Timmons, and go to www.mclobbyists.com for more details on McCain’s team of lobbyists.

    via Kos

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 5:40 PM

  53. Scales. Eyes. McCain.

    [...]

    In the end, whatever the power of the religious fundamentalist movement that is now the GOP in simply denying reality, reality wins. And the fact that John McCain is now a serial and shameless liar will also sink in. The question before us is not whether this will be one day understood to be true. The question is whether it will be flushed out in time.

    We cannot control these despicable liars in the McCain campaign. We can only tell the truth as fearlessly and as relentlessly and as continuously as we can until November 4. We must do our duty. And if the American people want to re-elect the machine that has helped destroy this country's national security, global reputation and economic health, then that is their choice. But I am not so depressed to think that they will.

    We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly.

    http://tinyurl.com/6bba6l

    *****

    I refuse to believe so many people are so dishonorable and shameless. People in general dislike liars no matter what your pundit tells you.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 5:52 PM

  54. capt - Could not agree with you more -

    "People in general dislike liars no matter what your pundit tells you."

    Wright - "never said those things while I was in church"!

    Wright - "not the man I knew"

    Rezko - "bone-headed deal"

    Ayers - "honorable man"

    Ayers - "just an aquaintance"

    Ayers - "just a neighbor"

    Iraq War - "surge will not work"

    Iraq War - "surge did not work"

    Iraq War - "I was not wrong about the surge"

    And so the polls turn!!!

    Cheers

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 6:18 PM

  55. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Obama's VP pick -

    Biden "cheated on a law school paper by cribbing parts of another work. He was caught in 1987 using a passage in his stump speech from British Labor Party leader, Neil Kinnock, without attributing it, at the Iowa State Fair. He was also caught using parts of a RFK speech without citation. (He quit the race shortly after the cheating came to light.)"

    Ugly!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 6:47 PM

  56. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Obama's ACORN connection-

    "U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports.

    An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in "get-out-the-vote" projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary."

    "... the spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office, Kelly Chesney, says there is a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications. And it appears to be widespread."

    "Examples of the problems they are finding with some of the ACORN submitted applications are numerous applications filed in one name, described as a "huge number," and some with names that appear to be made up."

    Uglier still!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 6:54 PM

  57. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about MSM "fair and balanced" coverage -

    "Like others at the Atlantic, I was appalled to read about the actions of Jill Greenberg, the freelance photographer who took the cover portrait that illustrates my article about John McCain. Greenberg doctored photographs of McCain she took during her Atlantic-arranged shoot, which took place last month in Las Vegas.

    "Greenberg also crowed that she had tricked McCain into standing over a strobe light placed on the floor - turning the septuagenarian's face into a horror show of shadows.
    Asking McCain to 'please come over here' for a final shot, Greenberg pretended to be using a standard modeling light.

    The resulting photos depict McCain as devilish, with bulging brows and washed-out skin.

    'He had no idea he was being lit from below," Greenberg said, adding that none of his entourage picked up on the light switch either. 'I guess they're not very sophisticated,' she said.

    The Atlantic opted not to use the distorted McCain shot on its cover, selecting instead a more straightforward portrait. 'We stand by the picture we are running on our cover," said Atlantic editor James Bennet. 'We feel it's a respectful portrait. We hope we'll be judged by that picture.'

    But Bennet was appalled by Greenberg saying she tried to portray McCain in an unflattering way.

    'We feel totally blind-sided,' he said. 'Her behavior is outrageous. Incredibly unprofessional.'

    Greenberg later decided to use some of the images she was assigned to take to make a political statement.

    Her Web site now features a series of Photoshopped pics of McCain in some highly unflattering poses - including one that has a monkey squirting dung onto the Republican candidate's head. Another one reads 'I am a bloodthirsty warmongerer,' with McCain retouched to have needle-sharp shark teeth and a vicious grin, while licking blood-smeared lips."

    NEVER judge an article by its cover!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 7:09 PM

  58. Rove: McCain went 'too far' in ads

    [...]

    "McCain has gone in some of his ads -- similarly gone one step too far," he told Fox News, "and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the '100 percent truth' test."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/14/campaign.wrap/index.html

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:05 PM

  59. Obama and the Palin Effect


    [...]

    She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and turning negativity into a cause for pride. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.) I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision

    http://www.chopra.com/node/1064

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:07 PM

  60. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Barack Obama and the community organizer/Saul Alinsky movement -

    "The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.

    In these methods, euphemistically labeled "community organizing," Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere."

    The Dems are the party of entitlement!!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:09 PM

  61. "Alaska Women Reject Palin" Rally - 150% the Size of Pro-Palin Rally

    http://tinyurl.com/6dt52a

    *****

    Makes sense the biggest rally would be an anti-Palin rally from those who know her best.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:13 PM

  62. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Michelle Obama and the community organizer/Saul Alinsky movement -


    "In her convention speech Monday she managed not to denounce America as "just downright mean" and not worth being proud of, but she did say this:

    And Barack stood up that day, and he spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about "the world as it is" and "the world as it should be."

    Maybe she's mixing up Barack with fellow extremist Saul Alinsky, who wrote this in his pernicious guide to replacing freedom with socialism, Rules for Radicals:

    The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be."

    If Biden used these words without crediting, he would be guilty, once again, of plagiarism!!!

    Cheers

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:13 PM

  63. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Barack Obama and the Toni Rezko/ Rod Blagojevich corruption machine -

    "Rezko has had ties to each of those politicians in some fashion over the years, from a once-close relationship with Obama, a first-term U.S. senator, to co-hosting a $3.8 million Chicago fundraiser in 2003 for President Bush. Lt. Gov. Patrick Quinn also received contributions from Rezko’s former development company.

    Blagojevich twice made reference to Obama, whose ties to Rezko have become highlighted in the national coverage of his bid for the presidency. On Monday, Blagojevich was the lone statewide elected official left out of a news conference showcasing Obama’s widespread backing among Illinois Democrats.

    “This gentleman that you’re talking about is now a national figure,” Blagojevich said of Rezko. “He’s someone who’s been involved with helping people in politics for a long time.”

    No catchy tunes or humorous youtube videos, just the ugly TRUTH!!!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:19 PM

  64. McCain - If you're wondering boxers or briefs?

    Depends!


    lololololo

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:22 PM

  65. John McCain's Health Records Must Be Released!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvesa49zSIM

    McCain needs to answer a few mental health questions.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:25 PM

  66. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about Barack Obama and the Toni Rezko relationship timeline -

    "Having a hard time keeping track of the facts? Here are eight things to know:

    1. They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

    2. Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

    3. One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

    4. In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

    5. Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

    6. In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

    7. A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

    8. Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity."

    Oh, and one more thing - Rezko (dual citizenship US and Syrian) is now officially a FELON.


    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:29 PM

  67. capt -

    RE: "John McCain's Health Records Must Be Released!"

    I agree wholeheartedly! And while we're at it, let's see Barack Obama's -

    Health Records
    Home Mortgage Paperwork
    Selective Service Registration record
    College Records.

    Game on!!!

    ps - I suppose it would be too much to expect unredacted Annenburg records, eh? Bill Ayers probably blew them up already anyway!!!

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:33 PM

  68. As Andrew Sullivan says "We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."

    Here's the truth about why Barack Obama's judgement CANNOT BE TRUSTED -

    "But in a 90-minute interview with Tribune reporters and editors, Obama disclosed that Rezko had raised more for Obama's earlier political campaigns than previously known, gathering as much as $250,000 for the first three offices he sought.

    Obama also elaborated on previous statements about his private real estate transactions with Rezko, saying they were not simply mistakes of judgment because Rezko was under grand jury investigation at the time of their 2005 and 2006 dealings. "The mistake, by the way, was not just engaging in a transaction with Tony because he was having legal problems. The mistake was because he was a contributor and somebody who was involved in politics."

    So McCain lies, but Obama "elaborated on previous statements"!!!! lololo

    At least Barry admits that his mistakes were of JUDGEMENT(Rezko had legal problems)AND ETHICS (Rezko was a contributor).

    So if you're wondering whether Barack Hussein Obama is Judgement or Ethics challenged?

    BOTH!!!!

    No laughing matter.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 8:41 PM

  69. I just wanted all who are interested (worried) that Alan called tonight to say he and his house are alright.

    No power, lost his two prized redbud trees, but safe and sound with no major damage.

    He wanted me to tell those of you who've been reading and writing here for so long "Thanks for all the good thoughts."

    He'll be offline for a while, but he'll be back!

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 9:14 PM

  70. Good news about Alan.

    Keep talking you Palin haters. She scares you to death anfd you know it. Even more so, she scares Obama.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 9:53 PM

  71. "Depends"
    lol!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:07 PM

  72. """Keep talking you Palin haters. She scares you to death anfd you know it. Even more so, she scares Obama."""

    good one lol!

    but it is the phony conservative republicans who are afraid that a BLACK MAN might run this nation of corruption and greedy avariciousness into the ground - where it belongs.

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 10:12 PM

  73. That's good news indeed!

    Losing trees is not that bad. They can be replaced.

    Thanks Hajji

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:27 PM

  74. Who would have ever guessed that a mother of 5 children and a former mayor of a small town in Alaska could cause so much chaos among liberals. Not to mention that she is a curent governor.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:31 PM

  75. As_if

    You could not be more wrong. It is only Liberals who view candidates by race or sex. Go Palin!

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | September 14, 2008 11:35 PM

  76. hey excellent non-point tytandanmar!

    can you make a real point in favor of mccain/palin or would you simply vote for them because they are so-called conservatives and are not so-called liberals obama/biden?
    if i were to endorse the mccain doctrine then i would say:

    McCain/Palin - vote for war and religious extremism '08!

    what do YOU say?

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 12:01 AM

  77. Barack Obama for President!

    John McSame and Sarah Palin are both Bridges to the Bush Administration.

    We cannot afford four more years of the same.

    Vote for Barack Obama for President on November 4, 2008.

    Obama/Biden 08

    Posted by: michelle` Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 12:09 AM

  78. It's about time that meme started getting picked up! Now what Obama really needs is for the late night shows to drill it home to "low information voters" (a.k.a morons!).

    Also, Craigslist founder, Craig Newmark, recently wrote about this site on the Huffington Post. I thought it sounded like a great fusion of politics and technology - and worth passing along:

    http://ObamaTravel.org — real grassroots democracy

    "Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:

    http://ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.

    ... and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."

    Posted by: sweetal Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 1:49 AM

  79. I couldn't have said it better myself...from the NY Times Editorial...

    "This nation has suffered through eight years of an ill-prepared and unblinkingly obstinate president. One who didn’t pause to think before he started a disastrous war of choice in Iraq. One who blithely looked the other way as the Taliban and Al Qaeda regrouped in Afghanistan. One who obstinately cut taxes and undercut all efforts at regulation, unleashing today’s profound economic crisis.

    In a dangerous world, Americans need a president who knows that real strength requires serious thought and preparation. "

    And if you think that the McPalin administration can be the agent of change. to correct what 8 years of Bush has wrought, then I feel really sorry for you, and for this country if McPhalin manages to pull it off.

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 8:47 AM

  80. I think the idea that one would vote for someone strictly because they "would scare the pants off liberals" is a very juvenile way to approach what is THE most important decision about who will be directing this country for the next four years.

    If you truly believe that McCain-Palin are the best choice for this country, then go for it. That is what this country is supposed to be all about.

    I truly believe that Obama-Biden are the best choice for this country. I am not voting for Obama because I think think it would upset other people. I believe they are the right choice.

    Palin does scare me to death, but not for me, for this country.

    I am almost past child bearing age, so I don't have to worry about being able to make my own decisions about family planning. However, I can't say the same thing for my neices and other child bearing age women of this country. Four more years of Bush appointees could change their rights to make choices about their own bodies forever.

    I do have two 21-year old sons who could be drafted into this mess, though and four more years of Bush Doctrine thinking could bring them into a conflict.

    I do have a retirement to think about and four more years of Bush economics will take us to financial ruin - if we aren't already there yet.

    I do have health insurance, but since I work for a small consulting firm and my husband is self-employed, I am one economic downturn from being both unemployed and without health insurance. Four more years of Bush health care and I will be paying taxes on what my employer covers and getting less for it I'm sure.

    So, if you are rich and have the money to pay for your own health care, have your retirement covered, are too old to be drafted and are past your prime to have kids - well, for you guys that's never the case, is it? - then McCain-Palin might not affect you all that much - or they might help you. But if you are anyone else, don't let them sell you a bridge to nowhere.

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:14 AM

  81. i do NOT believe that Obama/Biden are the best choice for this country.
    but certainly they are the lesser of two evils.

    McCain/Palin - vote for war and religious extremism in '08!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:18 AM

  82. Who would have ever guessed that a PREGNANT mother of 4 children and a former mayor of a small town in Alaska and a curRent governor would stand around for hours hanging around with her pals after her water broke, ENDANGERING THE BABY?
    Who would have ever guessed that same pregnant water broked mother of 4 would then defy any sane doctor's orders and get on a plane and make an 18 hour journey back to alaska (stopping at least once along the way to change planes) FURTHER ENDANGERING THE BABY instead of simply checking herself into the nearest texas hospital?

    what kind of sane person would do such a thing, and remember, this her own story (and she is sticking to it!).

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:31 AM

  83. Dow drops 300 points, first 10 minutes.

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:44 AM

  84. BOHICA Wall-Street!

    BOHICA everybody who wasn't born with a silver spoon or blessed with a platinum-kevlar parachute!

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:45 AM

  85. I still have a nagging feeling that this is really Bristol's baby. I wish we could ask for DNA tests. However, if it really is Palin's baby - I think the above question is very important. Goes to Palin's thinking process.

    I heard she wanted the baby to be born in Alaska - which still doesn't address why she didn't stay in Juneau, where they have a great NICU. What was she thinking? Knowing this was her fifth pregancy and knowing it was a down's syndrome baby, she should have known that she was putting her life and the life of her unborn baby at risk. Not really pro-life actions if you ask me. Maybe she was hoping nature would take care of itself when she got to Wasilla?

    Given the baby is hers, beyond questioning her decisions surrounding the birth, we cannot question her accepting the nomination, other than on the grounds that she is uniquely unqualified. Joe Biden himself became a Senator with two small boys and no mother at home. At least Palin has the first dude and her teenage daughters to help out. She was pretty adamant about how here kids will pick up the slack at home. I've seen other families do that when both parents work. I am not going to question that.

    I will question everything else about Palin, but not that.

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:54 AM

  86. New Rasmussen Weighting

    Most pollsters force their polls into a specific model of the electorate. These models have a large effect on the reported results. Rasmussen has changed his parameters to force all polls to contain 38.7% Democrats, 33.6% Republicans, and 27.7% independents. The model will be updated every week based on the surveys done in the preceding 6 weeks. Rasmussen is very open about the process. Other pollsters are less open and have been criticized for using questionable parameters.

    http://electoral-vote.com/

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:55 AM

  87. Refinery specialists say that flooding and wind damage is minimal...most generate their own electricity, too!

    ...but watch the prices rise, anyway!

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 9:58 AM

  88. I don’t want to talk about the lesser of two evils – not again. To me, there is a clear choice.

    Kucinch was my first choice. Obama is my choice now. I am not choosing Obama now because I think that will scare the pants off the homophobic, racist, right-winger Timmies of the world. I choose Obama now because I think he is the best choice given the options we have left from which to choose. I think that he is clearly our best choice to preserve what is left of our Constitution and the freedoms we have so long taken for granted, bring honor and dignity back to the White House and to this country, to repair our economy, and to navigate this extremely dangerous foreign policy mess the Bush Administration is leaving the next president.

    What other choice to do we have? I mean really?

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:06 AM

  89. flan,

    *high fives*

    We are joined at the hip on this one. No doubt.

    After elected we have to hold the feet to the fire too.

    (goes without sayin)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:09 AM

  90. Oil by the barrel drops - gas at the pump goes up.

    Makes sense to oil execs

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:13 AM

  91. The Disgusting Sham of Killing Terrorists

    According to villagers, the troops burst in, guns blazing, killing Payo Jan, six children, two women and a male relation. Among the dead were a three-year-old girl and a two-year-old boy, they said.

    http://tinyurl.com/6mskab

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:17 AM

  92. Pro-life (unless you are a child in the middle east)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:58 AM

  93. Andrew Sullivan: "We cannot control these despicable liars in the McCain campaign. We can only tell the truth as fearlessly and as relentlessly and as continuously as we can until November 4. We must do our duty. And if the American people want to re-elect the machine that has helped destroy this country's national security, global reputation and economic health, then that is their choice. But I am not so depressed to think that they will. We must give them the truth. And that will feel like hell. And we must tell it like Truman told it: cheerfully, passionately and relentlessly."


    Here, Here!

    Posted by: flan Author Profile Page | September 15, 2008 10:58 AM

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