Obama Picks Biden: A Conventional But Effective Choice?

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A piece on Biden I posted at Mother Jones.....

In the end, Barack Obama used unconventional means to announce a conventional choice for his running-mate.

Via a three A.M. text message sent to the cell phones of his supporters, donors and volunteers, Obama's campaign declared that he had chosen Senator Joe Biden, the Delaware Democrat, to be "our" veep nominee. (Three in the morning--was this a dig at Senator Hillary Clinton or just a coincidence?) With this I'll-let-you-know-first gimmick, Obama had snagged millions of cell numbers and email addresses his campaign can use in the weeks ahead to motivate voters and push them to the polls on Election Day. So in purely tactical terms, his running-mate rollout was indeed pioneering and widely successful. What remains to be seen, of course, is whether he made a smart pick by attaching his campaign for change to a fellow who has worked Washington's ways in the Senate for 35 years.

Sometimes going conventional is not the wrong course. During the past weeks of veep-frenzy, Biden's assets and liabilities have been dissected repeatedly. He possesses extensive foreign policy experience (which Obama does not). He can do straight-talk relatively well for a senator (while Obama has been accused of not fully connecting with working-class voters). Then again, Biden has suffered in the past from both verbal diarrhea and gaffe-itis. I've attended many committee hearings in the Senate when Biden turned a question into a long-winded monologue that drove people in the room to want to shout, "Question, Senator, do you have a question?!!" And there are times when Biden's mental filter has switched off and he has said the dumbest thing, such as when he famously called Obama "the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." (The Daily Mail headlined its account of Obama's pick this way: "Obama names 'gaffe-prone' Joe Biden as his running mate.")

But Biden is a smart legislator who has shown that he can suppress his own faults when he must. He had a good campaign this past year as a presidential candidate. He won few votes but performed well at the debates and demonstrated he could keep his infamous verbosity under control. At the confirmation hearing for Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, while other Democrats got bogged down in legal jargon practically indecipherable to the average person, Biden peppered Roberts with straightforward questions about Roberts' claim that he merely wanted to be an umpire on the bench who calls constitutional balls and strikes. "Much as I respect your metaphor," Biden countered, "it's not very apt, because you get to determine the strike zone. The founders never set a strike zone." It was the best moment of the hearing.

On foreign policy, Biden has always been an activist, thinking and engaging with the issues and crises generating headlines and those that don't make the evening news. He has a fancy for cooking up proposals. And even if he devises ideas that may raise objections--such as his plan to partition Iraq--he often deserves credit for the effort. (He issued his proposal for splitting up Iraq at a time when the Bush administration was doing nothing but "staying the course.")

One of Biden's better moments came in the run-up to the war with Iraq. In the fall of 2002, the Bush administration, claiming Saddam Hussein had amassed loads of WMDs that he could hand to al Qaeda for attacks against the United States, was demanding that the House and Senate grant Bush the authority to invade Iraq whenever he wanted. Rather than cave to Bush, Biden, the chairman of the foreign relations committee, worked with Republican Senators Richard Lugar and Chuck Hagel to craft an alternative: a resolution that would allow Bush to attack Iraq only for the purposes of destroying Iraq's WMDs and only after seeking UN approval. If the UN withheld permission, Bush would have to come back to Congress and prove that the threat was so "grave" that only military action could eliminate it. This was a wily legislative maneuver that could have averted a war. (And Biden told me and Michael Isikoff during an interview for our book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, that he had received backdoor encouragement from Secretary of State Colin Powell.) But Biden's bipartisan measure was ultimately derailed by a fellow Democrat: House minority leader Richard Gephardt, who essentially accepted the White House's blank-check approach. After Gephardt did that, Republican senators told Biden, How can we be to the left of Dick Gephardt? "I was so angry," Biden later said. "I was frustrated. But I never second-guess another man's political judgment."

Biden went on to vote for the Iraq war resolution. Which demonstrated his Washington-ness. He had tried for something better. When that failed, he, too, accepted the prevailing notion. But his pre-vote effort to create a much more limited resolution will afford the Obama-Biden ticket a small measure of cover when its foes point out that Obama's main charge against John McCain (he supported the Iraq invasion) can also be applied to his running-mate.

The main rule in veep-picking is this: First, do no harm. Among Obama's conventional options, each had obvious problems. Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana stood side-by-side with McCain in fervently advocating the war in Iraq prior to the invasion. Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia is another political newbie on the national stage with no foreign policy cred, and he has yet to rack up many accomplishments. As for Senator Hillary Clinton, with her on the ticket, the election would be as much about the Clintons as about Obama and McCain. Depending on your view, that's either a big winner or political hell.

Biden comes with decades of baggage. There are thousands of Senate floor votes for GOP oppo researchers to sift through. He's had more than one plagiarism scandal. Hailing from a solidly Democratic state, he brings no Electoral College votes with him. But he has the talent to be both Obama's attack dog and his top foreign policy adviser. And though vice presidential nominees tend to have no true impact on the final results, Biden has the potential to be a fierce campaigner for and with Obama--that is, if he can be the better Biden for the next ten weeks.

By tapping Biden, Obama does little to reinforce his core themes of change and hope. He does not amplify his Washington-is-broken and postpartisan messages. He does not boost his claim that his campaign is a movement. He does not increase the excitement factor or accentuate the historic nature of his candidacy. But then Obama himself has already provided much of that. And it's possible that the American electorate can only absorb so much unorthodoxy in a presidential election. With Biden, Obama may have passed the do-no-harm rule. But that won't be known until the election is over.

    Comments

  1. I'm ok with Biden. Solid, sensible, foreign policy, left-center social issues. Slightly conservative fiscal, more or less.

    Nobody HATES him, as far as I can tell.

    Should help, not hurt. Will tear Lie-brr-man or Mittsy to shreds in a debate.

    Hopefully, the campaign will be sure to have his mental-mouth filter replaced on schedule. Bad things happen when THAT gets clogged!

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 12:25 PM

  2. Oh yeah, and "Obama/Biden '08" has a nice, round ring to it, for those who care about such things.

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 12:28 PM

  3. "I would be honored to run with or against John McCain because I think the country would be better off."

    So, I guess "McCain/Biden '08" is out of the question?

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 12:57 PM

  4. And this headline from the U.K. press -

    "Obama names his number two "

    What is with the Brit's obsession with bathroom humor?

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 1:00 PM

  5. Obama's got Mo' Joe!

    Posted by: Hunter Gatherer Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 1:28 PM

  6. DC,

    I think making Biden his pick is so obviously part of some secret plan to win the White House and take over the free world.


    Oh, wait a minute!

    lololo

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 1:39 PM

  7. While I am fully aware that McCain can't fail to be a worse disaster for this country than the curent duffus in chief, I remain unenthusiastic about the Democratic ticket.

    My vote goes to Rev. Wright, long may he rule.

    Posted by: kalpal Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 4:38 PM

  8. obama is not a US citizen

    Berg argues that Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1961 to an American woman, Stanley Ann Dunham, and a Kenyan man, Barack Hussein Obama Senior, as reportedly shown by a birth certificate from Mombasa Maternity Hospital. According to the law at that time, a parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent was at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18.

    No hospital birth certificate has been produced to show Obama was born in Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact, which forensics experts have denounced as a forgery.

    Moreover, when Obama was six years old his mother remarried and moved with her husband to his country, Indonesia. Records indicate Obama was naturalized as an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality, so even had he been born in Hawaii, he would have lost his citizenship then.

    http://www.waronfreedom.org/dox/BONoUsCitizen.htm

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 4:52 PM

  9. biden is just another more of the same zionist

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE

    why don't we just cut to the chase and make netanyahu our president!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 4:57 PM

  10. "On the Democratic side, it was a collective 'phew.' As the days got nearer for the pick, it was hard to find a Democrat -- even savvy Clintonites -- who weren't hoping it would be Biden. Only the most strident Hillary supporters appear to be upset this morning. On the GOP side, the sound you heard was disappointed silence. Of everyone on the short list, the candidate many Republicans least wanted to see Obama pick was Biden."

    (KOS)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:02 PM

  11. Sen Hillary Clinton

    "In naming my colleague and friend Joe Biden to be the vice presidential nominee, Barack Obama has continued in the best traditions for the vice presidency by selecting an exceptionally strong, experienced leader and devoted public servant. Senator Biden will be a purposeful and dynamic vice president who will help Senator Obama both win the presidency and govern this great country."

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:02 PM

  12. Biden is good with African Americans -

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a
    nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

    Biden is good with Indian Americans -

    "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking."

    Biden was prescient on the "surge" -

    "Biden expressed opposition to the president's plan for a "surge" of additional U.S. troops and said he has grave doubts about whether the Iraqi government has the will or the capacity to help implement a new approach. He said he hopes to use the hearings to "illuminate the alternatives available to this president" and to provide a platform for influencing Americans, especially Republican lawmakers."

    Well, at least he IS GOOD on the Iraq war -

    “One thing is clear: These weapons must be must be dislodged from Saddam, or Saddam must be dislodged from power"

    At least Biden has had the last 40 years in Washington to craft his Democrat positions.

    Wait, doesn't BHO say that Washington is broken? Does that mean that Obama/Biden is broken, too?

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:17 PM

  13. Biden's nomination also will make it difficult for Clinton's supporters to feel aggrieved that she wasn't chosen instead. All along her candidacy was based on claims of (a) experience, and (b) expertise. Joe Biden has more of both than Hillary Clinton does, as even her more ardent supporters would have to admit. If you believe that the choice of a vice president should just be a question of merit, as many Clinton supporters have been arguing, then the selection of Joe Biden is highly merited.

    That won't preclude a few PUMAs from continuing to nurse their grudges. Extremists aren't amenable to reason. But Biden's nomination will show their complaints to be ridiculous, in the extreme.

    (kos)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:42 PM

  14. Biden on McCain: Seven kitchen tables

    In his debut speech, Biden cites his and Obama's shared "American story," and after praising Obama and reciting his own past, turns quickly to the past of "eight years of Bush and McCain" and the risk of "four more years of George W. Bush and John McCain."

    And he hits McCain's real estate holdings, a signal that Obama has settled firmly on his negative message and the coming convention is likely to be a forum for extended derision of the Republican nominee.

    Biden says that while, "at kitchen tables like mine," Americans worry about their shrinking incomes, "that's not a worry [McCain] has to worry about."

    "You have to think about which of the seven kitchen tables to sit at," Biden says, going on to quote McCain's praise of Bush.

    (politico)


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:45 PM

  15. New ad slogan:

    OBAMA: ONE HOUSE, ONE SPOUSE

    (kos)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 5:50 PM

  16. The house thing is ridiculous. Many people own multiple homes for a host of reasons. Many for rental income. I have a friend who is not by any means rich that owns several homes and rents them out. It is an investment just as someone who owns several different stocks. Leave it to the idiots who do not understand investment or economics to make a big deal over it.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 9:03 PM

  17. uhm...I got 2 tents...duz that make me and "elitist"?

    McCain can't even remember what kind of car he drives.

    I'm guessing a Jazzy Scooter!

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 10:40 PM

  18. No you are not an elitist, you are just too tense.

    At his age, I doubt if McCain even drives anymore.

    Have a great labor day weekend!

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 10:43 PM

  19. It has less to do with what McCain owns than the hypocrisy of calling his opponent an elitist when the opposite is so obvious.

    That and senile dementia.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 11:06 PM

  20. In our News interview, he was asked what kind of car he drove. As with Politico’s question about home ownership, he didn’t know and had to ask a nearby aide. “A Cadillac CTS,” she told him. But then the senator was quick to point out that he had bought his daughter a Prius — the prefect (sic) halo symbol for his green pretensions. […]

    We also pressed McCain on the home issue, though at that time he was only willing to reveal two of his dwellings: one in Phoenix and a second home in Sedona. And he was quite proud of the fact that he had installed solar panels on the Sedona pad.

    (Thinkprogress)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 23, 2008 11:13 PM

  21. McCain gaffe over houses could anger voters

    [...]

    "It's not (McCain's) wealth per se because we don't resent the rich, we want to be them," said Steven Greene, a professor of political science at North Carolina State University.

    "The issue becomes 'out of touch.' We want presidents who 'get' what the average American is dealing with," he said.

    The dispute arose on Wednesday when McCain was asked by the Politico newspaper how many houses he owns with his wife Cindy, a wealthy heiress to a beer distributorship.

    "I think -- I'll have my staff get to you," McCain replied. "It's condominiums where -- I'll have them get to you."

    http://tinyurl.com/5mxxpq

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 1:09 AM

  22. All I am saying, as far as issues that matter, it is a non-issue. Put him down for not knowing how many he owns, instead of how many he owns. And if he made fun of Obama for the home that he owns, that was sheer idiocy on McCain's part to begin with.

    Why am I suddenly realizing there were better choices in 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, et al?

    Neither guy offends me but I do not think either is capable of being an effective president.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 2:19 AM

  23. New WaPo Poll: Obama 49 McCain 43 (registered)


    WaPo just put up their pre-convention and pre-vice presidential pick poll online. It basically says that not much has changed from the previous month.

    Registered voters: Obama 49, McCain 43

    "Likely" voters: Obama 49, McCain 45 (who knows what a "likely" voter is in this election).

    Overall this poll shows that very little has changed this past month. I suspect that polls that were taken while Obama was on vacation showing a "tightening" is more reflective in the fact that Obama wasn't that visible in the public eye while on vacation and the Russia/Georgia conflict put national security more in the forefront.

    This WaPo poll was conducted when Obama was back from his trip and thus may in fact be more representative of a pre-convention/pre-VP pick poll (August 19-22).

    http://tinyurl.com/5kj88z

    *****

    The M$M wants negative campaigning to give them a story but the truth is - it ain't working this time.

    That is a good thing.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 8:44 AM

  24. McCain’s Party

    Why the senator from Arizona believes he can be the next Republican nominee for President

    [...]

    The celebrity that McCain has enjoyed since the 2000 campaign is qualitatively different from what it was before. He used to come home most weekends, but now he is away a great deal of the time. And, when they go out together, strangers clamor for his attention. “We went to the Super Bowl a few weeks ago—I’d been jostled before, but nothing like this,” she said. “He has reached rock-star status. But he is always nice, generous, always takes time with people. I get frustrated sometimes, but not John. His attitude is ‘Enjoy it—it won’t last forever.’ ”

    http://tinyurl.com/4dyrp8

    Who has reached "rock-star" status? Not Gramps? Really?

    If hypocrisy killed . . .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 9:28 AM

  25. The Homes McCain doesn't want us to see!

    Here they are, the homes MCCAIN wants to keep a secret from american voters. The homes that would expose how out of touch he is.

    The inside scoop on the homes John McCain wants kept under wraps with pictures.

    http://tinyurl.com/68etnu

    ****

    Robin Leach should be the voice over on these?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 9:30 AM

  26. The right and men who live off their second wives' inherited wealth

    What's most notable about John McCain's confusion over the number of homes he owns isn't merely that it demonstrates that, after running his campaign based on depicting Barack Obama as an out-of-touch elitist and himself as the all-American Everyman, McCain lives a life that is about as far removed from the Average American as one can get, and has done so for decades. What's notable is how McCain was able to live that way. McCain himself isn't actually rich. He just lives off the inherited wealth of his much younger former mistress and now-second-wife -- for whom he dumped his older and disfigured first wife -- and who then used her family's money to fund McCain's political career and keep him living in extreme luxury (after insisting that he sign a prenuptial agreement, which would make McCain the first U.S. President to have one).

    http://tinyurl.com/6bzhrv


    *****

    Maybe people won't notice that Barack is a self made man while Johnny boy is just a kept man (as the GOP called Kerry?)


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 9:40 AM

  27. (from the Mother Jones website, where 18 different writers comment on Obama) http://tinyurl.com/69u3dp

    Naomi Klein:
    What all transformative movements have in common is the quality of speaking up to an aspirational public, to our best possible selves. Transformative movements act like the world is better than it is, and—when they work—they inspire the world to live up to this partial projection. The Obama campaign, has, in moments, embodied precisely that quality: Obama conjures a better America and that better America shows up for him. But political moments do more than speak to our best selves; they harness that quasi-mystical power to make radical demands to transform the real world. The Obama campaign has not done this, not on any issue at the core of our current crisis. Not on global warming, the war in Iraq, the housing crisis, health care, underemployment, or the assaults on civil liberties. Not a single Obama policy is unequivocal in its clarity and morality, which is the essential quality of a transformative movement.

    The campaign's most radical demand, even if unstated, is the idea of electing Obama himself. It is Obama—and not his plans for the presidency—that is the ultimate expression of the "movement." If the process ends there, the Obama campaign becomes less like the civil rights movement and more like the lifestyle brands in the late '90s—the Nikes, Microsofts, and Starbucks that expertly captured the transcendent quality of past liberation movements, and our desire for meaning in our lives, to build their brands.

    Of course the real fault is not Obama's, but ours. We have forgotten the kind of risk and work it takes to build transformative mass movements, and so settle for iconography instead. That said, he'd better win.

    Posted by: Diff Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 11:48 AM

  28. Obama/Biden '08 -

    "The Plagiarism Ticket"

    lolololo

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 12:11 PM

  29. It is, after all, not mere happenstance that so many conservative pundits — Rich Lowry, Peggy Noonan, Ramesh Ponnuru — have, to McCain’s irritation, proposed that he “patriotically” declare in advance that he will selflessly serve only a single term. Whatever their lofty stated reasons for promoting this stunt, their underlying message is clear: They recognize in their heart of hearts that the shelf life of McCain’s experience has already reached its expiration date.

    Is a man who is just discovering the Internet qualified to lead a restoration of America’s economic and educational infrastructures? Is the leader of a virtually all-white political party America’s best salesman and moral avatar in the age of globalization? Does a bellicose Vietnam veteran who rushed to hitch his star to the self-immolating overreaches of Ahmad Chalabi, Pervez Musharraf and Mikheil Saakashvili have the judgment to keep America safe?

    R.I.P., “Change We Can Believe In.” The fierce urgency of the 21st century demands Change Before It’s Too Late.

    (NYT's Rich)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 1:15 PM

  30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA

    Oh my, I see more and more why Barack gave Joe the nod.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 2:05 PM

  31. Silence On A ‘Terror Gap’

    Sen. John McCain portrays himself as a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights. But does that extend to gun rights for suspected terrorists? His campaign won't say where he stands on a bill to eliminate a gun-control loophole that even the Bush administration wants closed: a gap in federal law that inhibits the government from stopping people on terrorist watch lists from buying guns. The bill was inspired by an official audit covering a five-month period in 2004 which found that, because of the loophole, the Feds had to greenlight 35 out of 44 cases where a gun buyer was on a terrorist watch list. One group opposed to closing the loophole is the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a gun manufacturers' trade association. Until this spring, one of its congressional lobbyists was Randy Scheunemann, now a top McCain campaign adviser on foreign policy.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/154913

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 2:52 PM

  32. Too Much of a Bad Thing

    [...]

    While McCain’s experience was heroic, did it create a worldview incapable of anticipating the limits to U.S. military power in Iraq? Did he fail to absorb the lessons of Vietnam, so that he is doomed to always want to refight it? Did his captivity inform a search-and-destroy, shoot-first-ask-questions-later, “We are all Georgians,” mentality?

    http://tinyurl.com/3uzckr

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 3:00 PM

  33. Joe Biden Will Be A Nightmare for John McCain and GOP

    However, true to form the GOP miscalculated. They violated a basic tactic of war. Never back your opponent into a corner without giving them an escape route. Because with no way out, the cornered tend to fight back with more tenacity. Or they call for backup. Well,Barack Obama chose both options. As John McCain said, Obama became "testy" and he also placed a call for backup to his colleague, Joe Biden. You know Biden's reputation. Salt of the earth. Strong with working class Americans, strong with Catholics, strong with foreign policy and who loved a good fight. And unlike Obama, Biden possessed no handicap to play nice. Biden has more than enough gut punches to go around and like Donna Brazile tearing into a GOP pundit, he won't hesitate to use them.

    The GOP must be thinking that they can't catch a cold. "Curses, foiled again!". What's a body to do. Maybe they will take the advice of the "brilliant" GOP talking head who recommended that McCain ignore Biden and keep hammering away at Obama. You know, as in close your eyes and pretend that Biden isn't really there and maybe he will go away. After witnessing Joe Biden in action today, somehow I don't think that strategy will have much success.

    http://tinyurl.com/3tz3qv

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 3:04 PM

  34. Incipient Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama’s selection of Joseph Biden as his running mate constitutes a stunning betrayal of the anti-war constituency who made possible his hard-fought victory in the Democratic primaries and caucuses.

    The veteran Delaware senator (Biden) has been one the leading congressional supporters of U.S. militarization of the Middle East and Eastern Europe, of strict economic sanctions against Cuba, and of Israeli occupation policies.

    http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5492

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 3:51 PM

  35. McCain is on top of his game?

    http://tinyurl.com/5tpkvx

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 5:31 PM

  36. Sen. Biden also has a more personal connection to Iraq. His son Beau, the attorney general of Delaware, is a captain in the Army National Guard, and is set to be deployed to Iraq in the fall, even though, as Sen. Biden explained last year, "I don't want him going. But I tell you what, I don't want my grandsons or granddaughters going back in 15 years. So how we leave makes a big difference."

    Sen. Biden has also repeatedly cast doubt on the very notion of a "War on Terror," declaring, in a speech in April 2008, in which he lambasted the Bush administration for making "fear the main driver of our foreign policy," "Terrorism is a means, not an end, and very different groups and countries are using it toward very different goals. If we can't even identify the enemy or describe the war we're fighting, it's difficult to see how we will win."

    (Alternet)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 5:39 PM

  37. "I am a long time employee of the Cook County Assessor and would like to come clean about personal knowledge relating to an inconsistency in Sen. Obama's property taxes.

    Mr. Barack Obama and his wife purchased a house in Hyde Park during the month of June 2005. The total purchase price was $1,650,000. Title was put into a unnamed land trust. I will not publish a pin or address because of obvious security concerns for the Obama family.

    The house was reassessed during summer of 2006. All of the surrounding houses were increased by an average of 28%. The Obama residence increased 6%. What is more troubling is that we always attempt to assess houses at about 68% of actual sale prices. The Obama residence is assessed at 90,882 with a market value of 568,012. That is just about one third of the selling price from 2005. When I questioned this assessment, I was transferred to another project in the office. The Obama assessment was then completed by the same person who did the workup for Governor Blagojevich's house, which also was assessed at a lower percentage of surrounding properties and rose at a fraction of the rate of surrouding properties. According to standards set up within the office, the assessment should have been 179,520 and the tax bill should have been almost double in this one assessment cycle alone.

    These types of things occur almost weekly. Such is the way of Cook County and Chicago. They probably happen every day but I don't see it because they have me answering the telephone now."

    Change - yes we can!

    Cheers

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 5:49 PM

  38. "Senator Joe Biden (D-Del) calls for the use of troops in Darfur and doing so without checking with Jimmy Carter relative to what Jimmy calls a “pre-emptive war”, meaning that the security of the United States is not directly threatened. This is the same Joe Biden that is against the troop surge in Iraq even though he spent most of the past few years complaining that we need more troops in Iraq."

    Washington IS broken!

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 5:56 PM

  39. ""I don't want my grandsons or granddaughters going back (to iraq) in 15 years. So how we leave makes a big difference.""

    HOW WE GOT THERE (iraq) IN THE 1st PLACE ALSO MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE!

    The veteran Delaware senator (Biden) has been one of the leading congressional supporters of U.S. militarization of the Middle East and Eastern Europe, of strict economic sanctions against Cuba, and of Israeli occupation policies.

    http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5492

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 5:57 PM

  40. Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 6:31 PM

  41. BHO says Washington is broken - he's right!

    Percentage of total votes cast WITH PARTY -

    Biden - 96.6%
    Obama - 96.0%

    McCain - 88.3%

    Change - not unless it's the Party Line!

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 6:43 PM

  42. OBAMA/BIDEN '08
    a vote for me is a vote for continued israeli atrocities!

    McCAIN/WHOEVER '08
    a vote for me is a vote for more of the same!

    is there even such a thing as the lesser of two evils in today's world?

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 6:51 PM

  43. A major voting machine maker has notified its customers in 34 states that a programming error discovered during testing may cause votes to be dropped when they are uploaded to a computer server from the machines' vote-holding memory cards.

    http://www.ohio.com/news/ap?articleID=688274&c=y

    -----
    hey voting is fair and balanced and i will vote no matter how futile my efforts and no matter what happens i will pretend that everything is fair and balanced for the next time that i am disenfranchised!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:01 PM

  44. Paper ballots form a time-tested method of voting.

    We need to progress back to the past.

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:16 PM

  45. Worse, the D's take the top slot, supermajorities in the house AND the senate and the best we could ever hope for is a little shift on the margins.

    We are talking about politicians after all. Even worse than that we are talking about "successful" politicians?

    HA! - they are the worst kind.

    No politician can change the direction of the economy much - none I've seen or heard. We are headed for more and worse trouble from the failed policies of the current WH.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:25 PM

  46. The Dems should encourage BHO to continue his attacks on McCain's 7 houses, and how owning them shows he is "out of touch" with the sufferings of middle Americans.

    Yea, what would a person held and tortured in a prisoner of war camp for 5 1/2 years know about the horrors of finding out that your house is no longer worth more that the 2nd mortgage you took out and blew on that (fill in the blank). And BHO, how many kitchen tables do you think a prisoner of war gets to choose from while in captivity?

    Only Harvard educated lawyer, former Hawaii resident Barack Hussein Obama can possibly connect with Americans affected by the mortgage "mess". After all, he has a mortgage mess of his own!!!

    The questions I would pose to BHO are -

    1. Based on 5 1/2 years in a prisoner of war camp, how many houses do you deem acceptable for McCain to own?

    2. Where is your draft registration paperwork??

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:31 PM

  47. We returned to paper and ink here in NM before the 2006 election.

    Now, they can steal my vote - but I feel WAY better about it. How would I know if they count it right? Better for recount to have an actual piece of paper but I'm certain vote fixing is as old as voting so the best we can hope for is mostly honest people in the process. A no-where-near perfect system, never was and never will be.

    Like effective subliminal messaging - if they do it correctly you never know!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:31 PM

  48. Wow, a Dem speaks the truth!! -

    "Ladies and gentleman, the coverage of Barack Obama was embarrassing," said Rendell, in the ballroom at Denver's Brown Palace Hotel. "It was embarrassing."

    “MSNBC was the official network of the Obama campaign," Rendell said, who called their coverage "absolutely embarrassing. Chris Matthews, Rendell said, "loses his impartiality when he talks about the Clintons.”

    And while we're at it, if it's fair to demand of John McCain how many houses he has, then it's fair to demand of Joe Biden how many hair plugs he has!

    Cheers.

    Posted by: denmac Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 7:53 PM

  49. Nuclear waste containers likely to fail, warns 'devastating' report

    Thousands of containers of lethal nuclear waste are likely to fail before being safely sealed away underground, a devastating official report concludes.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/nuclear-waste-containers-likely-to-fail-warns-devastating-report-907200.html
    -----

    i would rather worry about the all important left v right!

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 24, 2008 10:21 PM

  50. I feel sorry for the posters here who have no notion of how hope and change are both possible and necessary, and who seem to revel in "attacks" that are so snide and childish that they would be humorous if not for how sad and shallow and empty they reveal the lives, hearts and brains of their posters to be. You have my pity.

    Posted by: Unitarian Patriot Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 11:12 AM

  51. "so snide and childish that they would be humorous if not for how sad and shallow and empty they reveal the lives"

    I still think they are humorous.

    They make me chuckle, giggle and once in a while lol!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 11:17 AM

  52. Another excellent ad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X9LypdiQFo

    Script:

    I'm not up on the economy
    Don't know much about industry
    Really can't explain the price of gas
    Or what's happened to the middle class

    But I know One and One is Two
    And if I could be just like you
    What a wonderful world this would be

    Do we really want four more years of the same old tune?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 12:19 PM

  53. Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki is demanding a "specific deadline" for all US troops to exit his country, including residual forces, something John McCain has stridently disavowed. George Bush wanted to avoid the terms "deadline" or "timeline" but if he accepts Iraq's demands, what will McCain say then? His balls are clearly in this vise as well.

    The beauty of it is that Obama had called for specific deadlines long ago and who are we to argue with Maliki considering we spend how many millions per day in his country? Barack Obama is already solving America's problems and he isn't even president yet!

    George Bush and Dick Cheney must be gnashing their teeth at having to fore-go their cute little "time horizon" scheme or else this thing goes to the UN (in which case John Bolton's head might explode).

    The question I have is this: why did it take 4 years of failed Rumsfeldian policies for Republicans to start a counter-insurgency strategy in Iraq? Oh nevermind, we're talking about the same Republicans that managed Katrina.

    (kos)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 12:29 PM

  54. Iraq demands deadline for pullout of all US troops


    BAGHDAD — Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Monday no security agreement with the United States could be reached unless it included a "specific deadline" for the withdrawal of all American troops from Iraq.

    Last week, U.S. and Iraqi officials said the two sides had agreed tentatively to a schedule which included a broad pullout of combat forces by the end of 2011 with a residual U.S. force remaining behind to continue training and advising the Iraqi security forces.

    But al-Maliki's remarks Monday suggested that the Iraqi government is still not satisfied with that arrangement. An aide to the prime minister said Monday that Iraq remained adamant that the last American soldier must leave Iraq by the end of 2011 _ regardless of conditions at the time.

    http://tinyurl.com/59y3j9

    *****

    Sounds like Maliki isn't kiddin around about the US getting out.

    Once again Barack was right all along.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 12:46 PM

  55. Concern trolling about Obama's so called lack of experience notwithstanding that he's been right on every major foreign policy and McCain has been flat out wrong.

    Concern trolling that Obama supposedly has this problem connecting with white blue collar voters notwithstanding that Obama won 10 of the 14 states with the highest percentage of a white population in the Democratic primary.

    Concern trolling that Obama is having trouble in the polls notwithstanding that he's been ahead for months and the underliers all work in his favor.

    Concern trolling about how Democrats may not be ready to lead and how they somehow have to appeal to the middle. (Thus implying they are out of touch.)

    (kos)

    ****

    Concern trolls make me giggle.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 12:48 PM

  56. ""I feel sorry for the posters here who have no notion of how hope and change are both possible and necessary,""

    i do hope they they change those 1000's of faulty nuclear waste containers that are likely to fail.

    Posted by: as_if! Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 12:53 PM

  57. According to a July story in The Politico, a McCain family corporation spent a combined $4.7 million on the two condos in Coronado.

    If the interview was conducted sometime in April, and she'd closed on the condo two weeks earlier, that means that the latest the closing could have happened is mid-April, and the earliest is mid-March.

    On March 25, John McCain said:

    And 51 million homeowners are doing what's necessary: working at second jobs, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets to make their payments on time.

    So at around the time McCain said this, the McCain family corporation was either actively in the market for, or had closed on, a second multi-million-dollar beach condo in the same building which was necessary because the first one was too crowded with their children in it.

    (TPM)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:11 PM

  58. Sex, Lies and Lots of Videotape - The John McCain Show


    If this were a TV show it could not be more bizarre. The lies, deceit and hypocrisy of our POW war hero, and now his wife, are sad and frightening.

    http://tinyurl.com/57ywyx


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:14 PM

  59. Clinton praises UFW

    New York senator stops in Fresno on her way to the Democratic convention.


    On the eve of the Democratic National Convention, Sen. Hillary Clinton came to Fresno on Sunday to thank the United Farm Workers for supporting her campaign for president and ask that they now turn that support toward electing presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

    http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/818662.html

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:17 PM

  60. The real, Luddite McCain: “The truly clean technologies don’t work”

    Late last year, after his campaign tanked, no one was paying much attention to McCain. As a result, some of the amazing things that he believes didn’t get a lot of attention, such as this Cheney-esque stunner:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-UuP1UUsZk


    JOHN MCCAIN: “When you say wind solar and tide, most every expert that I know says that, if you maximize that in every possible way, the contribution that that would make given the present state of technology is very small, is very small. It’s not a large contribution. It’s wonderful, it’s great to have it, I encourage it everywhere. I hope everyone will, for Christmas, buy their family a solar panel. But, that would be exciting. But they, but, I’d be glad to send you the figures that there’s the amount of–even if we gave it the absolute maximum, uh, wind, solar and tide, uh, etc. The clean tech - the truly clean technologies don’t work.”

    (Town Hall Meeting; Portsmouth, NH 12/04/07)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:20 PM

  61. Just what we need, a President in a bubble. And one that he is completely unable to hear the truth, even when it is presented to him by a hard core conservative, like T. Boone Pickens, as we learned from these amazing remarks last month:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OJnZ1iDEfo

    QUESTIONER: … I would just like to see more emphasis on our renewable resources that we have out there. […]

    MCCAIN: […] I’m supportive of and the government is doing some pure research and development on a lot of this technology: wind, tide, solar, and others. But I also and this is where Mr. [T. Boone] Pickens and I disagree a little bit. I don’t think we can rely on those to be as much of the solution as some people think. We all love solar. Is there anybody that doesn’t love solar power? But when we look at the actual contributions, compared with the increased demand for energy that’s gonna be part of American in the next 20 years, it does not meet much of those demands, much less the existing requirements that we have.

    (Town Hall Meeting; Warren, MI 07/18/08)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:24 PM

  62. PUMAs for Hillary? Maybe Not So Much.

    http://tinyurl.com/655erl

    ****

    They are GOPhers for McCain trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

    The real funny part is they think they will not be exposed?

    HA!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:35 PM

  63. Part of Pepsi Center flooded by sprinkler system

    DENVER - A sprinkler system partially flooded part of the Pepsi Center Monday morning.

    The Denver Fire Department, which has a crew stationed at the center all week, was able to respond quickly before 5 a.m. when the sprinkler went off.

    The sprinkler was located on the club level in a skybox which had recently been renovated to host a news crew. It appears the skybox belongs to Fox.

    After going off, the sprinkler released 50 to 100 gallons of water per minute and 9NEWS crews estimate it was on for around 5 minutes.

    The cause of the sprinkler is under investigation but early reports indicate it was likely bumped or the heat sensor may have been affected by equipment in the room.

    http://tinyurl.com/6fb5jm

    ****

    The "Fox Box?" could it be a coincidence?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 1:38 PM

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