It was inevitable. American advocates of the Iraq war are now arguing that they know better than Iraq's leaders when it comes to how long U.S. troops should stay in Iraq. And this approach seems to be animating John McCain's view of the war.
Advocates of the war received a blow recently when the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said several times that it would like to see some sort of timetable for a U.S. pullout. For McCain, this was particularly troubling, for it placed the Iraqi government closer to Barack Obama's position (set a schedule for a gradual withdrawal) than his position (stay and win, win, win, and then withdraw). So what's a neocon to do? Simple: attack Maliki.
In The Washington Post, Max Boot, a foreign policy adviser to McCain, wrote:
There is some irony in the fact that Democrats, after years of deriding Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki as a hopeless bungler and conniving Shiite sectarian, are now treating as sacrosanct his suggestion that Iraq will be ready to assume responsibility for its own security by 2010. Naturally this is because his position seems to support that of Barack Obama.
A little skepticism is in order here. The prime minister has political motives for what he's saying -- whatever that is. An anonymous Iraqi official told the state-owned Al-Sabah newspaper, "Maliki thinks that Obama is most likely to win in the presidential election" and that "he's got to take preemptive steps before Obama gets to the White House." By smoothing Obama's maiden voyage abroad as the Democratic nominee, Maliki may figure that he will collect chits that he can call in later.
Giving the Iraqi prime minister an added motive to posture about troop withdrawals, even while he explicitly eschews binding timelines, is that he is engaged in contentious status-of-forces negotiations with the United States. He may figure that threatening to boot us out gives him more leverage over our troops. Beyond the negotiations, there is the imperative of Iraq's provincial elections, supposed to take place this year. Maliki no doubt expects that his Dawa party will reap political benefits from appearing to stand up to the Americans.
Oh my goodness! A political leader making statements and setting policies because of...politics! How dreadful. Boot goes on to diss Maliki: "Keep in mind also that Maliki has no military experience and that he has been trapped in the Green Zone, relatively isolated from day-to-day life. For these reasons, he has been a consistent font of misguided predictions about how quickly U.S. forces could leave."
That is, Boot, who toils as a fellow for the Council on Foreign Relations, knows more about conditions on the ground than Maliki. One need not be a fan of Maliki--who has indeed run a corrupt and inept administration--to note that he's the guy who was selected by Iraqis to be their leader and render such judgments. And that his ineptitude does not allow the United States--or the McCain campaign--to dismiss his decisions. (Can other nations do that regarding George Bush?) And what's the logical extension of Boot's (and McCain's) stance? To lean on Maliki? To support "regime change" in Iraq? To threaten to stay in Iraq no matter what the Iraqi government says. Boot does acknowledge, "Of course, if the Iraq government tells us to leave, we will have to leave." But he's essentially saying, pay no attention to what the Iraqi government is signaling. What a nice lesson for the burgeoning democracy in Iraq.
On the Hill, Republicans have been taking a similar posture. House Minority Whip Roy Blunt told the Post, "I find it interesting that Prime Minister Maliki is now the person to go to." This was a sneering remark. But whom should be gone to? When the Iraqis voted for the new government, supporters of the war hailed the event as a breakthrough justifying Bush's decision to invade a country on false (or inaccurate) pretenses. Oh, what to do when the results of that election produce inconvenient consequences?
It may well be true that Maliki is declaring he wants U.S. troops out to enhance his political standing, as local elections approach. But all politics is local. As local politics in Iraq places Maliki and his government more in sync with Obama than McCain, the McCain camp is left with the Ugly American option of insisting it knows better than the locals. And who's going to buy that?
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DC,
Right on the money again!
I can't see how Maliki could side with Bush/McCain when the occupation is being stretched into 7 years?
I guess McCain thinking he knows better isn't the only thing that is inevitable.
All occupations end and when the occupiers leave the indigenous people calling for them to leave will declare their victory. It is the nature of ending an occupation.
Thanks!
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 12:15 PM
WOW. OK, I get it. capt IS David Corn!
Replying only 16 minutes after DC posts indicates one of several things -
1. As I said, either capt IS David Corn, or
2. capt is a 19 year old living in his parents basement, whose workday doesn't start until Kroeger's closes (so he can stock shelves), or
3. capt is a democrat party operative (although his use of cloying "McSame"-type nicknames of the repub nominee makes me doubt even the dems are that juvenile!).
In any event, the dude needs to "get a life"!!!!!
Cheers
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 12:55 PM
This is David Corn's website and personal attacks on me or anybody else are unnecessary and Ad Hominem.
No reason for it. Say I am a 16 year old girl - so what?
Who cares?
Comment on David's work - off topic, personal attacks are not cool dude.
Thanks!
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 1:19 PM
Even more positive news from Barack Obama's trip to the Middle East: a new poll by Israel Radio shows, for perhaps the first time, Israelis preferring Obama to John McCain.
When asked "who would you rather see elected as the next president of the United States," Obama bested John McCain by a 37-28 margin. While far from a decisive advantage -- 35 percent of Israelis chose "no preference" or some other answer -- the poll reflects a notably different state of affairs from previous surveys, which generally showed McCain with a large advantage over Obama.
(huffpo)
I'm sure McCain knows better than the Israeli's too!
lololo
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 1:22 PM
John McCain's Crack-up. It Can Only Get Worse by November.
These days, is there any other political parlor game that can possibly compete with 'What's the Matter with John McCain?'
It's easy, it's fun, it's wholesome entertainment for the whole family. It's bipartisan. It's sweeping the nation. And its popularity derives from the simple formulation that there are not, really, any wrong answers, since no one really knows for sure just what in the hell is wrong with the man.
Pick a card, any card: inept improvisation, ordinary incompetence, chaos theory in action, revealed ignorance, message confusion, deliberate bedazzlement, random error, clinical depression and paranoid frustration, just plain senility, or perhaps some combination of a few or all. Who knows? And you can write up your own explanatory card, too, because we're all equals in punditland.
There is, of course, strong yet inconclusive evidence for the senility argument, which began in earnest when McCain persisted in his geometric confusions over Sunnis, Shiites, Iranians and al Qaeda. Those, truly, were Who's-on-first? moments we'll never forget, although John may have by now. Since then, Mr. McCain has repeatedly reconstructed the quondam nation of Czechoslovakia, installed Vladimir Putin on Germany's throne, and magically redrawn Pakistan's border.
(Buzzflash)
The GOP will dump him - McCain has made himself unelectable.
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 1:25 PM
Obama is a big hit in Germany as well.
http://news.aol.com/article/obama-makes-first-stop-of-european-tour/75202?icid=200100397x1206031020x1200334156
Be sure and check out the two questions you can vote on. The second one has Obama well ahead of mcfossil on "Who would do a better job as president on foreign policy?" by 52 to 41% with over 60-thousand voting.
Posted by: Alan
| July 24, 2008 1:30 PM
Just watched the speech on CNN -
Wow, he didn't make a single mistake from what I saw.
Another great speech - he spoke to the world as adults.
A good sign.
We have to be certain NOT to take anything for granted. The GOP slugs will do everything they can.
Effin GREAT Speech
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 2:01 PM
Since BHO offers neither effin substance nor interviews, a few observations -
1. JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's campaign plastered the entrance to the Western Wall – the holiest site in Judaism – with official campaign posters, WND has learned.
- Real sensitivity to/knowledge of international standards!
2. PARCHMAN — Before he died Wednesday evening, death row inmate Dale Leo Bishop apologized to his victim's family, thanked America and urged people to vote for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
- 'Nuff said!
3. 1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. "Barack Obama will not be coming to us," a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. "I don't know why." Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.
- Never enough time for the troops, but always enough time for speeches!
4. John McCain has gained ground on Barack Obama in Minnesota, while Sen. Norm Coleman is widening his lead over Democratic challenger Al Franken, according to a new poll.
A Quinnipiac University poll released today found that Obama leads McCain 46 percent to 44 percent among the state's likely voters, a statistical tie.
In Colorado, the one state among the four that President Bush carried in 2004, the poll showed
McCain ahead by two percentage points. That lead is within the poll's margin of error, but it represents
a positive trend for the Arizona senator; in a Quinnipiac survey a month ago, Obama led in the state by
5 percentage points.
The poll found McCain making even greater strides in Minnesota, host of the convention where
McCain will formally become his party's nominee in early September. Obama's advantage over
McCain there now is negligible -- 2 percentage points -- compared to a 17-point lead the same survey
gave the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee in June.
- When the cat's away!!!
Cheers
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 3:15 PM
The speech was predictably grand; the photo op, superb, with Obama bathed in golden light. There's not much policy in these eloquent words--though elsewhere in the speech he did speak about the pressing need to globally confront climate change, poverty, and AIDS. But in politics--and in government--inspiration does matter. And being a great communicator of lofty ideals is not a bad credential for a candidate--or a president.
(MoJo)
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 3:34 PM
McCain:
"This is a clear choice that the American people have. I had the courage and the judgment to say I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me that Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign."
This is the ninth presidential campaign I've covered. I can't remember a more scurrilous statement by a major party candidate. It smacks of desperation. It renews questions about whether McCain has the right temperament for the presidency. How sad.
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That's not temperment we can believe in my friennnnndsh!
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 3:37 PM
capt -
That's Joe Klein you're quoting. Remember, he wrote "Primary Colors", and then denied it. He publicly admitted he has no "journalistic credibility" - see following -
"Several people, including former Clinton speechwriter David Kusnet and, later, Vassar professor Donald Foster correctly identified Klein as the novel's author, based on a literary analysis of the book and Klein's previous writing. Klein denied authoring the book and publicly condemned Foster. Klein denied authorship again in Newsweek, speculating that another writer wrote it. Washington Post Style editor David von Drehle, in an interview, asked Klein if he was willing to stake his journalistic credibility on his denial, to which Klein agreed. He later admitted that the speculation was correct."
I guess James Carville did indeed represent the Democrat Party position when he said "character does not count".
Yup, vote BHO in '08!
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 4:01 PM
There is one more John McCain gaffe that the media missed from the now famous CBS interview with Katie Couric.
This is the same interview in which McCain claimed the surge led to the Anbar Awakening, which is demonstrably false. But watch below for another gaffe when McCain says Iraq was the first major conflict after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia7bV9j45wE
(Young Turks)
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 4:08 PM
MCCAIN QUESTIONS SPEECH, FORGETS CANADA
From NBC's Mark Murray
In his interview with NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, which will air on NBC's Nightly News tonight, McCain questions whether Obama should have given a speech in Berlin before becoming president.
"I would rather speak at a rally or a political gathering any place outside of the country after I am president of the United States," McCain told O'Donnell. "But that's a judgment that Sen. Obama and the American people will make."
However, on June 20, McCain himself gave a speech in Canada -- to the Economic Club of Canada -- in which he applauded NAFTA's successes. An implicit message behind that speech was that Obama had been critical of the trade accord. Also, McCain's trip to Canada was paid for by the campaign.
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McCain can't remember anything these days or should I say daze?
lolololo
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 4:20 PM
From RCP:
Electoral College
Obama 238/322 - McCain 163/216
Toss ups - 137/000 (000 is without toss-ups)
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Like the delegate count in the primary it is the electoral votes. To arrive at a meaningful number you have to go state by state. Just like the electoral college.
Those number are very bleak for McCain.
I can't see how he will overcome those numbers but maybe whining that Barack is getting good press will do it. "Playing the ref" goes back to Atwater, maybe it will work one more time.
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 4:28 PM
So, let me see if I have this right.
It IS appropriate for BHO to give a campaign speech to the Germans (who BTW can't vote in the U.S. Presidential election) via the use of campaign funds.
BUT, it is NOT appropriate for BHO to visit the wounded American Warriors who have defended BHO's right to run for President (and BTW WILL vote in the U.S. Presidential election) via the use of campaign funds.
This alleged "visit" was never on the official itinerary, and was concocted at the last minute, just to gin up the "intent" of a visit. It is a wise man who remarked "It is never inappropriate to visit our wounded heros".
Mark this day - Barack Hussein Obama's display of his DISDAIN for the military WILL COST HIM THE ELECTION.
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 5:55 PM
"We cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. None of us can deny these threats or escape responsibility in meeting them,"
Versus
(crickets chirping)
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 6:06 PM
Obama was at the Tiergarten in Berlin, amid a sea of people. McCain was at "Schmidt's Sausage Haus und Restaurant" in German Village, an enclave of Columbus, Ohio.
McCain addressed about a half dozen Ohio small business owners in the historic village.
"I'd love to give a speech in Germany," McCain said. "But I'd much prefer to do it as President."
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Yeah, that isn't very likely something he will ever have to worry about.
I'd love to see the crowd McCain pulls in any foreign nation. I bet he would have way more than 200,000.
No doubt. He is a superstar.
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 6:14 PM
Such a different message & vision than the one we had for the last 8 years built on greed, fear and war. Barack's message is on the oneness of Humantiy and our shared and common goals -- that we are all of us in this together and that we live in a Global Society. It was based on love and goodwill toward each other. That we are not alone and without hope. That there should be a freedom from fear and want everywhere in the world and that only united can we build a better world for all. What a great vision to aspire too, especially for the young adults and the children of the world. Gives them something to look forward to other than years of war and hate. The large crowd in Germany today relays the fact that people hunger for truth and for a message of hope and inspiration.
This is such an inspirational and great healer/teacher/leader! Is it not great that we are talking about peace and unity for a change? Our common humantiy? That speaks a lot in itself. It is unintelligent to think that we are not interdependent and that what goes on in one part of the world, effects us All! Barack generated a lot of powerful, healing engery today. We must not loose it because critics say he is not yet President, however, he is a servant of the world and because he loves America and Peace, these things had to be said to stimulate the vision that we can have peace here on earth.
Posted by: bacaangel
| July 24, 2008 6:21 PM
Bacaabgel -
No doubt. His was a great and historic speech.
The world is ready to welcome us back into the global community but we have to bring Barack.
The guy is already leading.
The difference between McCain and Barack couldn't be more pronounced. People have a real choice.
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 6:35 PM
So, it doesn't bother you that BHO is calling for the German military to take up arms for the first time since WWII?
"He also urged other nations to do more to help "rout the terrorists who threaten our security in Afghanistan." But he stopped short of openly calling on Germany to abandon its prohibition against moving its soldiers in Afghanistan from the relatively peaceful north to the southern and eastern parts of the country, where U.S., British, Canadian and Dutch forces are waging an increasingly tough fight against insurgents of the radical Islamic Taliban movement. The German government so far has resisted entreaties from NATO to deploy forces to the more dangerous areas."
Your "healer/teacher/leader" may be calling for unity (in military actions i.e "rout" terrorists), but he clearly is not calling for peace.
Don't buy the hype.
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 6:44 PM
What bothers me is how dense denmac is. Millions of Americans like him stuck us with a horrible president for eight years.
Posted by: Unitarian Patriot
| July 24, 2008 7:46 PM
This is David Corn's website and personal attacks on me or anybody else are unnecessary and Ad Hominem.
No reason for it. Say I am dense- so what?
Who cares?
Comment on David's work - off topic, personal attacks are not cool dude.
Thanks!
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 7:56 PM
McCain Foreshadows Latin America Trip
Going to Latin America in the midst of a presidential campaign, he (McCain) said, speaks less to his role as a senator than to what he's hoping to achieve if elected this fall. "It's more my ability to govern as president," he said, "my ability to lead as president, to keep up with these major issues."
http://tinyurl.com/5oejtf
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Canada, South America IOKIYRAR.
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 8:49 PM
Latin America
A geographic and cultural region comprised of
18 Spanish-speaking countries, Brazil, and Haiti, or generally the areas which Spain and Portugal colonized in the Americas.
Oops - your bad!
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 8:54 PM
McAuliffe was adamant in his recommendation of Kaine as the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee Tuesday, although he stressed to the News-Press after his speech, which included an informal half-hour question and answer period, that the ultimate choice will be Obama's very personal one.
However, the fact that he proposed Kaine over his own candidate and long-time friend, Hillary Clinton, suggested that he knows the Clinton option is off the table.
(huffpo)
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 9:21 PM
"PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup Poll Daily tracking of national registered voters' presidential election preferences finds Barack Obama with a slight advantage over John McCain, 45% to 43%.
Obama's much anticipated overseas trip enters its sixth day, but so far it has not meaningfully affected the choice for president voters would make if the election were held today. Obama has held a modest advantage over McCain for all but a few days (in which the candidates were precisely tied) since he clinched the Democratic nomination in early June."
Bump? What bump?
Posted by: denmac
| July 24, 2008 9:25 PM
Obama beats McCain in Arizona fundraising in June
In June 2008, Democrat Barack Obama raised more money than Republican John McCain in McCain's home state of Arizona.
Obama raised $432,000 compared to McCain's take of $313,000, reports the Arizona Republic.
Over the last year, McCain has raised twice as much as Obama in Arizona, with a total of $4.7 million. But since the beginning of 2008, McCain has raised only $2 million in his home state, just $66,000 more than the Obama campaign.
Nationwide, McCain raised $16 million compared to $50 million for Obama during June, but the Republican National Committee took in $69 million while the Democratic National Committee raised only $5 million.
According to a Zogby poll on July 23, 2008, Obama led McCain in Arizona 42 percent to 39 percent. Zogby said that Libertarian candidate Bob Barr polled at seven percent, with five percent undecided.
The poll also said if the election was held now, Obama would take 273 electoral votes to McCain's 146. Up to 119 electoral votes were too close to call, the poll said. McCain's campaign designated Arizona, which has ten electoral votes, a swing state in campaign literature.
The Republican candidate moved to Arizona in 1981 with second wife Cindy Hensley after retiring from the Navy as a captain.
http://tinyurl.com/65uuu5
Posted by: capt
| July 24, 2008 10:23 PM
The mcsame/oreilly remix...
"We'll do it live. Fkn thing sucks!"
http://view.break.com/542113
Posted by: Alan
| July 25, 2008 1:32 AM
Inasmuch as no one in the Bush administration thinks of Iraq a sovereign nation there is no coflict in the notion that the American puppet's proclamations are of value.
No Iraqi will be permitted to tell America what Iraq wants, needs or desires. America does not care about any of that. America cares about setting up its oil companies and protecting them as they loot Iraq and attempt to recover lost profits from the years Iraq had nationalized its oil industry.
Posted by: kalpal
| July 25, 2008 6:10 AM
McCain had to apply for Social Security about 6 years ago.
Imagine that, a full time employed senator, planning on running for president, pulling a senators salary, collecting $5,000 a month tax free disability, a $100,000,000 million dollar asset base and he went to the Social Security office and APPLIED for another $2,000 a month?
This isn't character - it is greed pure and simple.
Wadda a maverick, eh?
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 7:51 AM
"Do it Live" ROCKS!!!
ollololololololo
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 7:59 AM
This is my favorite line:
"Oh, what to do when the results of that election produce inconvenient consequences?"
Its not the first time this Administration has pushed for elections in a region they know nothing about, only to produce "inconvenient consequences". The Administration advocated for free elections for the Palestinians. Ooops. Hamas wins...
Posted by: jimsepa
| July 25, 2008 9:11 AM
I don't think a Jeffersonian democracy will work in all countries.
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 9:39 AM
I got yer Main $tream Media bias, right here -
"An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .
Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain."
It's just because BHO is the bigger news story, that's all!!!!
Posted by: denmac
| July 25, 2008 10:20 AM
Then there's this -
"“Senator Obama did not want to have a trip to see our wounded warriors perceived as a campaign event when his visit was to show his appreciation for our troops and decided instead not to go,” Obama advisor, retired Gen. Scott Gration, said in a statement."
So, the "perception" of BHO's motivation for visiting wounded American soldiers is more important than the visit itself.
Are we to understand that a BHO administration will allow perceptions to over ride decisions having to do with, say, visiting a hurricane ravaged U.S. city during an election year? Makes no sense, but it IS the same line of reasoning.
If this is "change", the American public will reject it/him.
Cheers.
Posted by: denmac
| July 25, 2008 10:35 AM
Obama Campaign Says Canceled Visit Followed Pentagon Ruling
The Obama campaign is responding to criticism for its canceling of a planned visit to a U.S. military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany. The trip was to follow Sen. Barack Obama’s speech Thursday in Berlin that was attended by 200,000 Europeans.
Obama’s opponents have used the canceled visit to charge the Democrat cares more about European sentiment then American soldiers. The Obama camp said they canceled the event after the Pentagon ruled it was a campaign event, and needed to be funded from the senator’s election kitty.
http://tinyurl.com/6fdg2m
*****
On snap! Barack followed orders from the Pentagon?
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 10:38 AM
capt -
re: "Obama beats McCain in Arizona fundraising in June"
- whoever wins Arizona gets to keep ALL 10 Electoral votes, and as you said earlier, it's all about the Electoral votes. BHO, don't spend them all in one place!!
re: On snap! Barack followed orders from the Pentagon?
- There was no order from the Pentagon, only a ruling based on origin of funds. Sadly, BHO's campiagn is not interested in spending money on a visit to wounded Americans currently on German soil.
Read your snippet - the issue was MONEY!!!!!
Posted by: denmac
| July 25, 2008 10:45 AM
When did the neocons become such knee-jerk reactionaries?
Hmmmm
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 10:50 AM
Then ther'es this -
* UPDATE * From NBC's Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube
A U.S. military official tells NBC News they were making preparations for Sen. Barack Obama to visit wounded troops at the Landstuhl Medical Center at Ramstein, Germany on Friday, but "for some reason the visit was called off."
One military official who was working on the Obama visit said because political candidates are prohibited from using military installations as campaign backdrops, Obama's representatives were told, "he could only bring two or three of his Senate staff member, no campaign officials or workers." In addition, "Obama could not bring any media. Only military photographers would be permitted to record Obama's visit."
The official said "We didn't know why" the request to visit the wounded troops was withdrawn. "He (Obama) was more than welcome. We were all ready for him."
Oh, and I guess there's this AGAIN -
This is David Corn's website and personal attacks on me or anybody else are unnecessary and Ad Hominem.
No reason for it. Say I am a knee-jerk reactionary- so what?
Who cares?
Comment on David's work - off topic, personal attacks are not cool dude.
Thanks!
Posted by: denmac
| July 25, 2008 10:53 AM
Per RCP:
Barack - 322
McCain - 216
Per Pollster.com (69 toss up)
Barack - 297
McCain - 172
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That is a pretty big hill for gramps to climb.
I wonder if he can pull it off?
McCain is having trouble in AZ. That doesn't bode well for his campaign.
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 10:55 AM
I wonder what the McCain camp and the rest of the cry-baby con's are going to whine about next?
Seems they have to be careful what they wish for.
Go to Iraq - he did and got the support that Bush and McCain will never have.
I feel badly for gramps. The GOP are going to drop him like a bad habit.
Jeb Bush '08!
Woo hoo! maybe that'll work, eh?
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 11:04 AM
McCain Campaign, a Fact Checking Exercise
Senator McCain seems completely unaware that dozens, perhaps hundreds, of reporters and bloggers can check the accuracy of his statements in a matter of minutes. Despite being factually challenged in many instances and positing a tenuous rationale for his claim that he knows how to win wars he keeps hammering away at Obama for not agreeing that "the surge" was the most brilliant strategy ever.
His interview with Katie Couric was a classic in terms of how far afield he can range. A cursory fact-check makes clear that actions taken against Shia militias and the Sunni Awakening that drove Al Qaeda from Anbar occurred in 2006 well before the surge was activated in January of 2007. But during the interview McCain repeatedly claimed the surge was the undisputed reason for our "success", a word he used in one form or another fourteen times, reiterating that because of it we will achieve "victory" with "honor", something Obama doesn't accept for political reasons, according to McCain.
His comments were immediately discredited by countless observers. In Washington Montly.com,7/22/08, Kevin Drum wrote: "Say what you will about the surge which does indeed deserve a share of the credit for reducing violence and increasing security in Baghdad. But it...wasn't related to either the Shia standown or the Sunni Awakening since both...began before Patraeus took over in Iraq... American troops played a role in the Sadr ceasefire and (especially) the Awakening, but the surge itself didn't - - and without them, the surge would certainly have failed. Obama has it exactly right."
(Buzzflash)
*****
McCain is going to have to study up and cut those gaffes by about half to have any credibility.
Hard to teach an old dog new tricks, eh?
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 11:09 AM
Obama Campaign, a Fact Checking Exercise
Oh, whatever. The BHO wheels continue to come off.
Now vast right-wing conspirator ABC News is reporting the lies of the Obama campaign relative to the troop visit - just Google obama and Pentagon!
The so-called - "support" that McCain will never have is apparently the Germans and French, not American Service- men and women.
Barack Hussein Obama's DISDAIN for the U.S. Military has cost him the Presidency!!!!
Posted by: denmac
| July 25, 2008 12:58 PM
Per Rassmussen:
Over half of Americans (55%) rate Barack Obama’s historic speech in Berlin yesterday good or excellent, and the Democratic presidential candidate is experiencing a modest bounce over John McCain nationally in the latest Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.
Even nearly a third of Republicans (32%) give the speech good or excellent marks, but Democrats are far more enthusiastic, with 75% feeling that way. However, 39% of Republicans rate the speech Poor versus only five percent (5%) of Democrats. Forty-seven percent (47%) of unaffiliated voters say the speech was good or excellent, while 16% characterize it as Poor.
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5% bounce overnight.
It that hold true it is why McCain and the Reich-wingnuts are so desperate.
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 1:58 PM
ANDREA MITCHELL: The background on the military flap is that they [Obama campaign] had clearly planned a trip to Ramstein [AFB]. They were planning to visit the injured troops. And then the Pentagon explained that they couldn't go as part of a political trip. The Obama campaign thought that they could go, leave the press corps on the tarmac, and then take off with military escort and make this one last visit. As he did in Iraq, by the way. He visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation. But the military said that the rules are that he could only go as part of a previously-arranged congressional delegation, to Ramstein.
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Hmmmm
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 2:01 PM
Pentagon advised Obama on military hospital visit
WASHINGTON (AFP) — The Pentagon advised Senator Barack Obama's staff that he could visit a US military hospital in Germany only in his official capacity as a member of Congress, without the trappings of a political campaign, Pentagon officials said Friday.
Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, cancelled the visit Friday to wounded soldiers at the military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany after deciding the stop would be inappropriate as part of a trip financed by his campaign, a spokesman said.
Pentagon officials said the restrictions were in keeping with Defense Department guidelines aimed at avoiding the appearance of military support for any particular candidate.
"Because his visit is official only, Senator Obama may not be accompanied by members of his campaign staff," a Pentagon memo seen by AFP said. "He may only be accompanied by one member of his Senate staff, and the appropriate number of security personnel."
"While at LRMC (Landstuhl Regional Medical Center), Senator Obama may not address the media to make a campaign or election-related statement or to respond to a campaign or a campaign related event," the memo said.
A Defense Department directive issued in June 2006 prohibits the use of military installations for campaign events or speeches.
http://tinyurl.com/6az2jj
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Those pesky facts, eh?
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 2:08 PM
When we send our young men and women into harm’s way, we have a solemn obligation not to fudge the numbers or shade the truth about why they’re going, to care for their families while they’re gone, to tend to the soldiers upon their return, and to never ever go to war without enough troops to win the war, secure the peace, and earn the respect of the world.
Barack Obama
2004 Democratic Convention Keynote Address
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 2:20 PM
McCain Doesn't Need a Fact-Checker; the Media Edit His Mistakes for Him
John McCain, presumably advised by Karl Rove and definitely imitating the politics of George Bush, is now saying that Barack Obama would rather lose a war than lose an election.
This is a defamation; this is a slander; this is a lie. McCain should apologize to Obama.
This is the latest in a long list of cheap-shot, low-blow politics. McCain has learned nothing about why the American people are rejecting the Republicans and why the Republican brand has been compared to the appeal of defective dog food.
http://tinyurl.com/6gvb64
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 2:39 PM
The problem here is that the McCain campaign was denied a visit to a military base under the same policy back in April. Of course, there was no outcry or false outrage from Brian Rogers at that time.
From CNN:
With Department of Defense rules prohibiting political campaigning on military bases, it was determined that in some cases McCain could visit the installations as a senator but could not engage in any political activity or have news media present.
McCain campaign officials said Thursday they intentionally did not campaign on military property.
"We follow the rules," said senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt.
(snip)
I understand that the McCain campaign is disorganized and pathologically clueless when it comes to utilizing the media, but they're clearly being dishonest in this case. McCain is demonstrably criticizing Obama for following a Pentagon rule to which the McCain campaign itself has been subjected recently. That's a fact. So this seems to be a simple cheap shot at Obama, in the hopes that the media won't be internet savvy enough (i.e., able to use Google) to figure out the whole story.
(Huffpo)
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 2:49 PM
NBC’s Williams confirms that McCain camp made no offer to cover McCain’s trip abroad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpX71NvhrCI
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Maybe McCain just can't remember, I'd hate to think he was just a liar.
Posted by: capt
| July 25, 2008 3:09 PM
The Denmac & Capt show will go on and on and on.
The change the public seeks is to be rid of corrupt, incompetent Republicans whose only constituents are big political donors for whom they will do anything. All else will only get lip service.
We need to get away from those who only serve to sell legislation to the highest bidder. 99% of Republican legislation is written on K street and rammed through by lobbyists with fists full of cash.
Posted by: kalpal
| July 26, 2008 8:06 AM
Good points, especially the question of whether other countries can push Bush around the way he wants to do to them.
Time to re-read that book..the Ugly American was the good guy.
Posted by: judyinohio
| July 26, 2008 10:50 AM
Please don't associate me with another non-related comments or posters?
I can stand on my own two feet and do so at all times.
Thanks!
Posted by: capt
| July 26, 2008 10:29 PM
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