Why McCain's Rejection of Rev. Parsley May Cost Him the Election

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Regular readers know that I broke the story about John McCain's problematic political alliance with the Reverend Rod Parsley, the Ohio megachurch pastor who has declared that it is the historic mission of the United States to see the "false religion" of Islam "destroyed." On Thursday, McCain--who had campaigned with Parsley in February and called him "one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide"--rejected Parsley's endorsement. The repudiation was part of a twofer: at the same time, McCain dumped fundamentalist pastor John Hagee, who had called the Catholic Church "the great whore" and who had once said that Hitler's mass-murdering of Jews was part of "God's work."

In the media coverage of McCain's pastor problems, Parsley was second fiddle. Apparently calling for the eradication of Islam is not as politically troublesome as insulting the Catholic Church and describing the Holocaust as a necessary step for the Second Coming (because it drove the Jews back to the Middle East). But footage of Parsley's anti-Islam rants--which Mother Jones and Brave New Films posted on-line as a video--was played on MSNBC and on ABC (which mistakenly described its own report as an "exclusive"). And the McCain camp decided to lump the two fundamentalist extremists together and throw them under the same bus at the same time.

The media coverage has continued to focus more on Hagee, who preaches at a Texas church, than Parsley. But McCain's excommunication of Parsley may be more politically significant. Allow me to explain the melodramatic headline above: Parsley, who leads a church in Columbus, Ohio, is a political powerhouse in the Buckeye State. He registers social conservatives as voters and then drives them to the polls, where most of them presumably vote Republican. He's been credited with helping George W. Bush win Ohio in 2004, when Bush beat John Kerry by the narrow margin of 120,000 votes.

Ohio is once again a swing state--perhaps the most important swing state. It's hard to envision either McCain or the Democratic nominee (presumably Barack Obama) winning in November without pocketing Ohio. And it's hard to envision McCain winning the state without the assistance of social conservative voters (often miscalled "values voters"). The Ohio Republican Party has been decimated in recent years by various scandals, and the state is now governed by a popular Democrat (Ted Strickland). It has become much tougher ground for GOPers. Which means that McCain truly needs those social conservatives to turn out for him.

Parsley could have helped greatly in this regard. But now McCain has lost a shepherd who could lead tens of thousands of voters to the polls for the Arizona senator. Will these voters find the way on their own? Will they be angered that McCain betrayed a man they consider to be a conveyor belt for the word of God? (McCain as Judas?) With Parsley out of play for McCain in Ohio, McCain will have a tougher time winning this critical state.

And another point: in renouncing Parsley and Hagee, McCain said that his initial acceptance of their endorsements "did not mean I endorsed their views." That may be true to a point. Yet what did it mean when McCain called Parsley "one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide"? That sure sounds like an endorsement. Why did McCain say that? It's doubtful that he was aware of Parsley's anti-Islam extremism or his other over-the-top views. McCain was simply pandering--mouthing words he did not really mean because that would help him get elected. If McCain is going to hail someone as a "great leader" and "moral compass," you'd expect him to know a thing or two about the fellow. Tossing off such praise in a who-really-cares manner sure ain't straight talk.

UPDATE: On Friday night, Parsley issued a statement saying he would not withdraw his endorsement of McCain. Then on Saturday he did just that.

    Comments

  1. DC,

    Great piece and of course it is your original work that broke the story.

    I would add the fact that McCain was seeking these endorsements for over a year - this means he knew or should have known.

    Bad for him either way.

    Thanks

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 12:12 PM

  2. Regular readers know that I broke the story about John McCain's problematic political alliance with the Reverend Rod Parsley,

    Posted by Corn
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn!

    The only people paying attention to this non-issue is rabid liberals who wouldn't vote for McCain anyway. Nice try Corn!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 12:33 PM

  3. If McCain is going to hail someone as a "great leader" and "moral compass," you'd expect him to know a thing or two about the fellow.

    Posted by Corn

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    You mean like getting married by the guy or attending his church for 20 years or baptizing your children?

    This is a great question Mr Corn, why would OBama let someone baptize his kids without knowing more about his racists views? This speaks volumes to the Obama's parenting skills. Obviously the Obama's care more about political power than raising their kids in a safe environment.

    I think child services needs to take a look at this.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 12:40 PM

  4. Icahn: Obama Would Be a Terrible President

    Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:28 PM


    Carl Icahn, the billionaire investor best known for shaking up public companies, says he is very concerned about the Democratic frontrunner, Barack Obama.


    “I personally think he would be a terrible president,'' Icahn told investors in New York, according to wire reports.


    Icahn thinks a President Obama would increase spending dramatically, something he says “the country can't afford right now.”


    An Obama spending spree and the resulting tax hikes to pay for it would kill the dollar and result in higher interest rates, Icahn warned. “I don't think Obama really understands economics,'' Icahn said.


    Obama also would take office with a Democratic majority in the Congress, clearing the way for unchecked spending, Icahn said.


    “It would be devastating,'' Icahn said. “Then you couldn't stop runaway legislation.''


    Obama now has 1,965 delegates, counting both pledged delegates and superdelegates, closing in on the 2,026 he needs to clinch the nomination. Hillary Clinton trails at 1,779 delegates.


    The 63-delegate Puerto Rico primary, which will be divided proportionally, is in 10 days. The Democratic National Convention will be held in Denver, Colo., starting on Aug. 25.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 12:55 PM

  5. ELECTION 2008
    Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure
    Investigations show ties to radicals who shaped him, helped launch his political career

    Posted: May 22, 2008
    11:40 pm Eastern


    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    Frank Marshall Davis
    Barack Obama had extensive ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, in Hawaii and Chicago, according to two new reports released yesterday in Washington, D.C., by two experienced internal security investigators.

    Investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, presented evidence Obama was mentored, while attending high school in Hawaii, by Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American poet and journalist who was also a CPUSA member.

    The authors, in a separate report, document Obama's ties to radicals in Chicago who helped launch his career.

    In a paper entitled "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection," the authors document that in 1948, Davis decided to move from Chicago to Honolulu at the suggestion of what they describe as two "secret CPUSA members," actor Paul Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen Union, or ILWU.

    In Chicago, Davis had worked for the Chicago Star newspaper; in Honolulu, he was hired as a reporter for the Honolulu Record, both identified by Kincaid and Romerstein as "communist front newspapers."


    In his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," Obama discusses the influence a mentor identified in the book only as "Frank" had on his intellectual development.

    Obama described Frank as a drinking companion of his grandfather, who had boasted of his association with African-American authors Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during the time Frank was a journalist in Chicago.

    Romerstein, in addition to having served as investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, served in the same capacity with the House Committee on Internal Security and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was the head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the U.S. Information Agency. Romerstein is also co-author of the influential book "The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America's Traitors," which included extensive documentation of the communist activities of Roosevelt administration staffer Alger Hiss.

    Kincaid is the founder and president of America's Survival Inc., an independent watchdog group that monitors the U.N. and international terrorism. He is also editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report.

    Are you a member of the Communist Party?

    Kincaid and Romerstein quote Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979

    A transcript of a 1956 hearing before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee discovered by internal security affairs researcher and writer Max Friedman showed Davis took the Fifth Amendment when asked by the subcommittee if he was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party.

    In the second report, "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection," Kincaid and Romerstein present evidence supporting their contention the SDS organization from which the Weather Underground organization and radicals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn came, received financial contributions from the CPUSA, which in turn receive its funding from Moscow.

    Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.

    Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986.

    "There has been no explanation of why Ayers et al. played a role in launching Obama's political career," Kincaid wrote.

    Kincaid and Romerstein present documentation that Tom Hayden, another major figure in the SDS, is today one of four principal initiators of the "Progressives for Obama" movement, which calls for ending the war in Iraq "as quickly as possible, not in five years."

    According to Kincaid and Romerstein, U.S. Peace Council executive committee member Frank Chapman "blew the whistle on communist support for Obama's presidential bid and his real agenda" in a letter to the People's Weekly World after Obama's win in the Iowa Democratic Party caucuses.

    "Obama's victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle," Chapman wrote. "Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

    Kincaid and Romerstein wrote, "The clear implication of Chapman's letter is that Obama himself, or some of his Marxist supporters, are acting like moles in the political process. The suggestion is that something is being hidden from the public."

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:03 PM

  6. Ouch!

    That's strike one Mr. Jimmy Obama

    Some please tell Obama this isn't tee ball~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obama criticizes absent McCain on Senate floor, McCain hits back hard


    Jim Webb's GI Bill passed the Senate today with a bipartisan majority, 75-22. Clinton and Obama were both there, but McCain is in California today on the fundraising trail.

    Obama used the opportunity to once again tie his rival to the president.

    "I respect Sen. John McCain's service to our country," Obama said on the Senate floor this morning. "He is one of those heroes of which I speak. But I can't understand why he would line up behind the president in opposition to this GI Bill. I can't believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans. I could not disagree with him and the president more on this issue."

    The McCain campaign responded by issuing a sharply worded and lengthy statement in the senator's name. McCain notes his support for an alternative to the Webb measure, but points out his own military service and points out Obama's lack thereof.

    "It is typical, but no less offensive that Sen. Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of," McCain said in the statement. "Let me say first in response to Sen. Obama, running for president is different than serving as president. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend. Unlike Sen. Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I have earned the right to make that claim."

    Full statement after the jump

    "It is typical, but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of. Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for President is different than serving as President. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend. Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I have earned the right to make that claim.

    "When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house in New London, Connecticut, and a Navy officer rolled down the window, and shouted at my father that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. My father immediately left for the submarine base where he was stationed. I rarely saw him again for four years. My grandfather, who commanded the fast carrier task force under Admiral Halsey, came home from the war exhausted from the burdens he had borne, and died the next day. I grew up in the Navy; served for twenty-two years as a naval officer; and, like Senator Webb, personally experienced the terrible costs war imposes on the veteran. The friendships I formed in war remain among the closest relationships in my life. The Navy is still the world I know best and love most. In Vietnam, where I formed the closest friendships of my life, some of those friends never came home to the country they loved so well.

    "But I am running for the office of Commander-in-Chief. That is the highest privilege in this country, and it imposes the greatest responsibilities. It would be easier politically for me to have joined Senator Webb in offering his legislation. More importantly, I feel just as he does, that we owe veterans the respect and generosity of a great nation because no matter how generously we show our gratitude it will never compensate them fully for all the sacrifices they have borne on our behalf.

    "Senators Graham, Burr and I have offered legislation that would provide veterans with a substantial increase in educational benefits. The bill we have sponsored would increase monthly education benefits to $1500; eliminate the $1200 enrollment fee; and offer a $1000 annually for books and supplies. Importantly, we would allow veterans to transfer those benefits to their spouses or dependent children or use a part of them to pay down existing student loans. We also increase benefits to the Guard and Reserve, and even more generously to those who serve in the Selected Reserve.

    "I know that my friend and fellow veteran, Senator Jim Webb, an honorable man who takes his responsibility to veterans very seriously, has offered legislation with very generous benefits. I respect and admire his position, and I would never suggest that he has anything other than the best of intentions to honor the service of deserving veterans. Both Senator Webb and I are united in our deep appreciation for the men and women who risk their lives so that the rest of us may be secure in our freedom. And I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did.

    "The most important difference between our two approaches is that Senator Webb offers veterans who served one enlistment the same benefits as those offered veterans who have re-enlisted several times. Our bill has a sliding scale that offers generous benefits to all veterans, but increases those benefits according to the veteran's length of service. I think it is important to do that because, otherwise, we will encourage more people to leave the military after they have completed one enlistment. At a time when the United States military is fighting in two wars, and as we finally are beginning the long overdue and very urgent necessity of increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps, one study estimates that Senator Webb's bill will reduce retention rates by 16%.

    "Most worrying to me, is that by hurting retention we will reduce the numbers of men and women who we train to become the backbone of all the services, the noncommissioned officer. In my life, I have learned more from noncommissioned officers I have known and served with than anyone else outside my family. And in combat, no one is more important to their soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen, and to the officers who command them, than the sergeant and petty officer. They are very hard to replace. Encouraging people not to choose to become noncommissioned officers would hurt the military and our country very badly. As I said, the office of President, which I am seeking, is a great honor, indeed, but it imposes serious responsibilities. How faithfully the President discharges those responsibilities will determine whether he or she deserves the honor. I can only tell you I intend to deserve the honor if I am fo rtunate to receive it, even if it means I must take politically unpopular positions at times and disagree with people for whom I have the highest respect and affection.

    "Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election."

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:20 PM

  7. The fauxgressive Mr. Corn does not realize that McCain will not need either of those crackpot preachers. Corn and his fellow fauxgressives, all the way up to Plastic Jesus and Axelrove themselves, are busily pissing off damn near everyone in the Democratic base except AAs, elitist intellectuals, and gullible youngsters. [And I suspect PJ and Axel would throw the AAs under the bus if PJ weren't AA himself.] PJ and Axelrove can't win in November with those 3 groups alone. Once again, the McGovernite wing of the Democratic Party will demonstrate its uncanny knack for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. They never learn.

    Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:35 PM

  8. St. McCain unveils a new standard for discussing military affairs in this country:

    "I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did," said McCain, a former naval aviator who was held as a prisoner of war for more than five years during the Vietnam War.

    Really?

    So I guess that means Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Roy Blunt, Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Rudy Guiliani -- not to mention Mitt Romney, Charlie Crist, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson -- and of course Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Reynolds and pretty much every other right wing blowhard and elected Republican henceforth needs to STFU when it comes to military affairs, right?

    Right?

    (FDL)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:44 PM

  9. I am guessing that it probably would have been prudent to "reject" this endorsement much earlier-- or perhaps not actively seek it in the first place. Knowing what these guys stand for--as his people should have, were they to have done any vetting whatsoever--should have been a warning that this day was coming:


    "McCain's team canceled press conference this morning and later the candidate avoided reporters' shouted questions during a meet-and-greet with an invited audience members at the Union City plant.

    Reporters were barred from a fundraiser at Whitman's Atherton home where the candidate raised an estimated $2.5 million. In the past, Whitman has opened her home to reporters for fundraisers and events."

    When McCain starts limiting access to "his base," you know he's in trouble. But, in his defense, it isn't just Hagee, it is the lobbyists on staff that have represented foreign agents who make Idi Amin look like Mother Teresa.

    (FDL)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:46 PM

  10. UPDATE: Survey USA has an Ohio poll suggesting a sizable 9-point lead for Barack Obama in a matchup against McCain.

    ---
    Original Post: A series of recent polls suggest Barack Obama has begun to open big leads in some states that will be crucial to the a Democratic win in November. But in at least two swing states, Clinton continues to outperform John McCain while Obama lags behind.

    California: Obama Opens Big Lead Over McCain, Clinton's Unfavorability Rises

    ****

    I'm sure Barack is sweating bullets over the looney HRC supporters and GOPhers.

    +9 in Ohio? I guess they only poll the Fauxgressives, eh?


    LOL

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:50 PM

  11. According to a survey conducted over the past 10 days by the Public Policy Institute of California, 59 percent of likely voters here now have a "favorable" impression of Democrat Obama, while a majority view both of the other candidates unfavorably. In a state whose Democratic primary Clinton won in February, 51 percent of voters now say they have an unfavorable opinion of her; 53 percent of voters feel the same way about Republican McCain.

    Obama, meanwhile, seems to be making strides across nearly every constituency. If the general election were held today, 54 percent of Californians say they would vote for him, compared with 37 percent for McCain. That gap has widened by 8 points since March. Obama enjoys the support of more than 80 percent of Democrats here, along with over half (55 percent) of independents. He leads McCain among men and women and is viewed favorably by nearly 70 percent of Latinos--a powerful political group, experts note, not just in California but in several other western states, including Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.


    Virginia: Obama Beats McCain By 7

    http://tinyurl.com/6bxquf

    *****

    Where are all the non-McGovernites? They must not represent a very large portion of the electorate, eh?

    LOL

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 1:55 PM

  12. Neocon A-Team: Bush, Lieberman, McCain and Rove (Brent Budowsky)


    Now here comes Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who opposes the greater support for veterans offered by Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and advocated by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), shamefully attacking Obama for not serving in the military.

    Like Bush, like Lieberman, like Rove, McCain has chosen the way of the neoconservative policy and tactics. What makes a neocon a neocon is that their policies are doomed to fail because they are rigid, reactionary and extreme. What makes a neocon a neocon is that when their policies fail, they resort to name-calling and personal attacks against those who have been far wiser than they.

    http://tinyurl.com/3ebhpz


    *****

    HRC and her rabid supporters seem to fit the definition of neocons right in line with Bush, McSame et al.

    "Coincidence doesn't just happen"

    Homer J Simpson

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:02 PM

  13. LOL it up while you can, fauxgressives. Once the Elephascist propaganda machine knows for sure that Obama will be the nominee, it will crank up the negative ads--Plastic Jesus has given them SO much genuine material to work with, and there's probably more to come.

    And if the fauxgressives want to talk about polls, electoral-vote.com shows these results:

    McCain 272, Obama 242, Ties 24 [IN and VA]
    Clinton 315, McCain 206, Tie 17 [MI]

    Specifically for Ohio, the site shows McCain leading Obama 45-42%, but Clinton leading McCain 49-42%.

    But the fauxgressives think seeking absolution for their white liberal guilt and keeping them uppity wimminz in their places is more important than winning the White House.

    Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:09 PM

  14. I think the point missed by McSame not showing up to vote is he didn't show up. It is not his support or opposition to the bill that passed it has to do with leadership. Gramps must've forgot that too, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:09 PM

  15. Also, have we forgotten that Dukakis led Bush Senior by 17 points at one point in 1988?

    Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:10 PM

  16. "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. "

    ~ Niels Bohr (1885 - 1962)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:11 PM

  17. Muskie lead Nixon by 26% at one point.

    That means McSame is a viable candidate?

    A optimistic perspective if you ask me.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:13 PM

  18. The folks who attend churches like parsley and Hagees' will vote for McCain simply because he has an R after his name. Whether or not he accepts the endorsement of these men is not important. The radical right will always walk in lock-step with their party.

    Posted by: Pirate Aggro Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:15 PM

  19. Republicans and Our Enemies

    By JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR.
    May 23, 2008; Page A15

    On Wednesday, Joe Lieberman wrote on this page that the Democratic Party he and I grew up in has drifted far from the foreign policy espoused by Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John Kennedy.

    In fact, it is the policies that President George W. Bush has pursued, and that John McCain would continue, that are divorced from that great tradition – and from the legacy of Republican presidents like Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

    Sen. Lieberman is right: 9/11 was a pivotal moment. History will judge Mr. Bush's reaction less for the mistakes he made than for the opportunities he squandered.

    The president had a historic opportunity to unite Americans and the world in common cause. Instead – by exploiting the politics of fear, instigating an optional war in Iraq before finishing a necessary war in Afghanistan, and instituting policies on torture, detainees and domestic surveillance that fly in the face of our values and interests – Mr. Bush divided Americans from each other and from the world.

    http://tinyurl.com/4zoaxx

    *****

    Biden doing a VP job interview?

    Heck, if he spoke like this more often he would have done better.

    The whole piece is very good. I hope he didn't lift any parts.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:18 PM

  20. So I guess that means Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Roy Blunt, Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Rudy Guiliani -- not to mention Mitt Romney, Charlie Crist, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson -- and of course Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Reynolds and pretty much every other right wing blowhard and elected Republican henceforth needs to STFU when it comes to military affairs, right?

    Right?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Wrong!

    None of them are running for President~~~


    Gramps McCain just gave Obummer Jr a whipping that's gunna smart for quite a while.

    Obummer would be smart to keep his mouth shut when challenging McCain on military matters.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:26 PM

  21. I don't think McSame will lose any votes from Reich-wingnuts by throwing the radical clerics under his double talk express.

    Lest we forget, faith based funding of fundies would likely continue under McSame - that is billions of reasons for the radical clerics to continue to support gramps.

    UGH!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:26 PM

  22. Now here comes Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who opposes the greater support for veterans offered by Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and advocated by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), shamefully attacking Obama for not serving in the military.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Whats shameful is that Obummer didn't serve his country~~

    Obummer was still going through puberty and popping zits when McCain was being totured for serving his country.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:28 PM

  23. What a shameful display of character Mr. McCain. You were tortured by the Vietcong, yet you will deny our veterans favorable benefits because they might take them? Disgusting.

    This isn't even something you can blame away as a temporary position to secure your base. You won. It's now general election time and you need to be worrying about mainstream America a lot more than your base. Half of your parties Senators recognized this as a jump ship worthy vote. Several enough to actually co-sponsor. Not you though. You chose the safe warm arms of George W Bush and his radical policies. You made it clear, George W Bush tells you what to believe.

    How could you? The bill was too generous? Don't you think that radically improving the benefit of military service would improve recruiting? You can live with everyone only serving once if you have many more people signing up. How can I explain this so that your elderly fading mind might comprehend. It's like if there were a great sale on prunes. Sure, getting that many at once some might go bad before you get to destroy them. But you're getting so many so fairly that you can afford to let them go...

    Sorry John, but you've obviously lost it. Soldiers who want to go to college so they can do something other than being shot at for a living are a bad thing?. Radical pastors whose support you courted now randomly rejected after similarly bad as before quotes surface? Just whose support are you trying to court here? I applaud your attempts to piss off every single part of your traditional base but I can't get the logic.

    You will lose in November Mr. McCain. You won't carry my state, Indiana. You won't carry half the states you think you will. Can we route John "Bomb Bomb Everybody" McCain to historical proportions? YES WE CAN.

    See you out in the shit Commando John. Sad to wax a decrepit shell of himself man. But just like your buddy George would probably say, all for the greater good!

    (kos)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:30 PM

  24. Lest we forget, faith based funding of fundies would likely continue under McSame - that is billions of reasons for the radical clerics to continue to support gramps.

    UGH!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Gramps McCain wasn't pandering to this crowd like Obummer when he sent out flyers with a cross in the back ground.

    Double UGH!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:30 PM

  25. Rasmussen Reports conducted a new poll in the swing state of New Hampshire, which I have far and long considered to be the best chance for Republicans to take some of the Kerry States away:

    Obama: 48%
    McCain: 43%

    Last month, McCain was winning New Hampshire by 10 points, now Obama wins by 5.

    *****

    WOW - Barack doesn't seem to be having any trouble at all.

    That is if pollstrology means anything others than a little fodder for discussion.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:32 PM

  26. What a shameful display of character Mr. McCain. You were tortured by the Vietcong, yet you will deny our veterans favorable benefits because they might take them? Disgusting.

    ~~~~~

    What's disgusting is Obama and your lies about McCains stance on this.

    He has offered a better bill with the same benefits rewarding by length of service. Hell, even the teachers union has it's benefits for teachers tied to length of service.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:34 PM

  27. Election 2008: Electoral College Update


    Today, Rasmussen Reports released new polling data showing Barack Obama opening a modest lead in Colorado and John McCain holding a double-digit lead in Florida. However, as with all recent state polling, these results do nothing to change the Electoral College projections of, the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator. On Friday, Democrats continue to lead in states with 200 Electoral Votes while the GOP has the advantage in states with 189. States with 111 Votes are “leaners,” and states with 38 Votes are Toss-Ups.

    When “leaners” are added, the Democrats lead 260 to 240 (see summary of recent state-by-state results).

    *****

    I think the Barack will lose BS is a bit premature and not founded on anything other than spite at your candidate losing the primary.

    Don't be hatin' - no reason for all that negativity.

    LOL

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:37 PM

  28. See you out in the shit Commando John. Sad to wax a decrepit shell of himself man. But just like your buddy George would probably say, all for the greater good!

    (kos)


    ~~~~

    Now that's even sader than Obama trying to one up McCain on our serving militray coming from the KOS who dispise our troops and love it when the troops dead numbers were on the rise.

    You trolls have got to do better than this, cuz being on the defense all the time with no offense never wins a game.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:37 PM

  29. LOL
    ~~~

    That's so High School!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:38 PM

  30. What IS Obama's appeal to the fauxgressives, anyway? I feel like the only deaf mouse in Hamelin.

    Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:40 PM

  31. Last month, McCain was winning New Hampshire by 10 points, now Obama wins by 5.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Just goes to show that polls mean nothing at this stage of the game.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:40 PM

  32. Obummer would be the second term of Jimmy Carter that poor Jimmy has always dreamed of.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:43 PM

  33. Obummer =

    High gas prices with long gas lines

    Jimmy inflation at all time highs

    Unemployement at all time highs

    Interst rates back at Jimmy's 17% level

    Yeeeee Hawwww~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:46 PM

  34. If Barack Obama loses the General Election, it will be because Hillary Clinton herself opened the door to vicious, pathetic, and slimy Republicna attacks. It will be because Hillary Clinton herself spent three months stirring up hate and division. It will be because Hillary Clinton created irreconcilable rifts in the party in a vain and shameless pursuit of the presidency. I am an activist Democrat, and I won't forget that. Hundreds of other activists I know won't forget it either.

    The party we're members of has a long and sad history of racism. It was the pro-slavery party in the 1850s, and home to the Ku Klux Klan and its lynch mobs in the 1870s. It stood against Civil Rights for 90 years. And then it atoned for its past sins by championing Civil Rights in the 1960s. Since then, our party has been a diverse and tolerant party.

    Nominating Hillary Clinton as the "I told you so," candidate in four years would be a step 150 years back for our party. It would once again place our party on the side of the intolerant. If that happens, the party can go on without me. But I'm pretty sure that tolerant Democrats are the overwhelming majority--I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton will once again lose in the primaries should she run again in four years.

    (kos)

    Even Clinton's lackey, Rahm Emmanuel, has said:

    "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins."

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 2:49 PM

  35. LBH--While you're correct that polls mean little this early, a recent one shows California [55 EVs] in play if the Dems nominate Plastic Jesus. [noquarterusa.net]

    California has not gone for the GOP Prez candidate since Bush Sr. in 1988.

    Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 3:00 PM

  36. f Barack Obama loses the General Election, it will be because Hillary Clinton herself opened the door to vicious, pathetic, and slimy Republicna attacks

    ~~~~

    Wow!

    You lefties are already writing excuses for Obummers obituary~~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 3:00 PM

  37. McCain releases medical records and seems he's in better shape than Obummer. Would love to see Gramps McCain take on Obummer Jr with a push up contest. McGramps would kick his scrawny ass!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 3:03 PM

  38. Bill,

    CA is a blue state but Arnold is very popular and McCain is a lot like Arnold on policy. He will do better than Obummer with the Hispanic vote as well. I think he has a good chance there it just all depends on how much money he has to spend in CA and how hard Arnold campaigns for him.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 3:11 PM

  39. Maxine Waters is all over the radio today with her senoir moment on the Big Oil hearings. She let it slip that she wants to socialize America and let the government control every comapny in the US. She caught herself half way in the socializing comment and sputtered for a better word, but already exposed herself. Even the other Dem members laughed at her idiotic statement.

    No wonder the liberals want Obama, they all want the same thing - Big Brother~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 3:18 PM

  40. Obama Campaign Release on California Superdelegate EndorsementsCONGRESSMEN COSTA AND CARDOZA ENDORSE BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT

    Cardoza previously supported Clinton

    Chicago, IL – Today, United States Congressman Jim Costa (CA-20) and United States Congressman Dennis Cardoza endorsed Barack Obama for president. Congressman Cardoza previously supported Senator Hillary Clinton.

    These endorsements mean that Senator Obama has been endorsed by 310.5 superdelegates. Obama is 59 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination.

    Congressman Cardoza said, “This is the most important election of my lifetime. While I continue to greatly respect and admire Senator Clinton and feel she has made history with her campaign, I believe that Senator Obama will inevitably be our party’s nominee for President. He has proven himself to be a thoughtful, knowledgeable, and inspirational leader and will take America in a new direction, which we desperately need.

    “The Bush Administration has been a huge disappointment. Mr. McCain, while certainly an American hero, represents more of the same failed Bush policies.

    http://tinyurl.com/3oluoz

    *******

    The Field has learned that Cardoza is the first of a group of at least 40 Clinton delegates, many of them from California, that through talking among themselves came to a joint decision that all of them would vote for Obama at the convention. They have informed Senator Clinton that it’s time to unite around Obama, and that they will be coming out, one or two at a time, and announcing their switch between now and the convention if Senator Clinton doesn’t do the same.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:12 PM

  41. OUCH!

    40 from California that were for HRC, that'll about do it.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:15 PM

  42. McCain had cancer surgery in February, and didn't disclose it

    McCain's most recent exams show a range of health issues common in aging: He frequently has precancerous skin lesions removed, and in February had an early stage squamous cell carcinoma, an easily cured skin cancer, removed. He had benign colon growths called polyps taken out during a routine colonoscopy in March.

    *****

    Whoop's McLiar forgot to tell people he still has cancer?

    He had surgery in February?

    Yeah, excellent health for a 71 year old cancer survivor. Generally not considered good health for a less aged adult.

    Obama will clean his clock politically - no doubt. It wouldn't be fair to compare them physically - McSame is just to impotent at his age.

    Maybe people will rally behind the old guy, maybe, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:20 PM

  43. California in play?

    Good one, like I always say you trolls are good for a chuckle once in a while.


    Thanks!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:21 PM

  44. Hillary invokes Assassination of RFK as Reason to Stay In the Race!


    For any left who still think she'd be "dreamy" as the V.P., this should put it to rest.

    From the New York Post via Americablog:

    Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

    "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

    This is definitely "Worst Person in the World" material.

    For those who don't trust the NY Post, the site has video confirming the statement, and having listened it it myself, it is downright disgusting. Jon Chait was right, she is temperamentally unfit to be president.

    http://tinyurl.com/4qq2l9

    *****

    What is she thinking?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:39 PM

  45. An Angry McCain Shows Just What Type of Dirty Campaign He's Running. Somewhere Karl Rove is Smiling

    [...]

    Nice framing job, John. It's more of the same Rovian tactics we've come to know and hate these past eight years. Don't support the Iraq war, you say? Well then you must be against the troops. This sort of convoluted nuancing is straight out of Karl Rove's playbook. What McCain was essentially saying Thursday was, "you're against my vote? Then you're attacking my patriotism and military record." Additionally, the suggestion that Obama has no right to criticize McCain, or worse, discuss the merits of a veterans' benefits bill because he himself never served in the military, is both preposterous and offensive. Does McCain need to be a trucker in order to discuss and vote on a transportation bill? Does he need to be personally insolvent in order to discuss and vote on a bankruptcy bill? Does need to have been molested as a child in order to discuss and vote on a bill protecting children from predators? His logic is ridiculous.

    And what about the shameless hypocrisy in McCain's fiery diatribe? Has he forgotten his blind, unconditional support these past five years of major war-mongering hawks like Bush, Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Pearle, who never served a day in the armed forces yet took it upon themselves to send 4000 U.S. troops to die in battle?

    McCain's temper is legendary, and he's famous for flying off the handle at the drop of a hat. Certainly, his vitriolic reaction to Obama's very respectful comments was overly dramatic and highly overblown. Obama did not impugn McCain's integrity or military service. He went out of his way to recognize McCain's patriotism, something his petulant opponent chose to attack instead. What Obama criticized concerned McCain's position on this bill and his lack of support for it, not his personal character or service to his country. Might McCain be just a tad too sensitive? Defensive? Insecure? Angry? To use McCain's own words ... If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election.

    http://tinyurl.com/5fhlhd

    *****

    Gramps doesn't have the temperment to be president.

    The same old politics will not sell this time. He will have to convince the coutry that we live in opposite world where old is young and dumb is smart.

    I just don't see it working.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 4:56 PM

  46. Obama will clean his clock politically - no doubt. It wouldn't be fair to compare them physically - McSame is just to impotent at his age.

    ~~~~~

    Like I said, I'd take McCain over Obama in a cage fight any day any time. Obama can't even frigging bowl what a putz!

    Now lets see Obummers medical records. I for one would like to see when he really quit snorting coke since he's admitted to doing it. Would also like to see if he has been infected with Aids since Rev Wright said the US government conspired to infect colored people with the virus.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:13 PM

  47. Gramps doesn't have the temperment to be president.

    ~~~~

    McCains temperment is exactly what's needed as a leader. We don't need a whishy washy liberal asking for a time out, but a real man who isn't afraid to give a whippin when needed.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:17 PM

  48. OUCH!

    40 from California that were for HRC, that'll about do it.


    ~~~~

    If your guy can't win Florida, which he's not- game over!

    Hell your guy can't even pull it together in Ohio and now with all you rabid liberals going after Parsley, it over for Obummer. I would wager that just as many Dems go to Parsleys church as any Repubs
    CA isn't even gunna matter, unless it ends up in a landslide for McCain which it could easily.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:23 PM

  49. How very odd. McCain has gotten every aspect of the war wrong for six years, so his campaign pitch is that Obama — who’s been right from the start — has gotten every aspect of the war wrong. It’s like watching the campaign through a special prism that refracts reality.

    Obama responded in a statement, “While I always appreciate hearing the news from John McCain, he should explain to the American people why almost every single promise and prediction that he has made about Iraq has turned to be catastrophically wrong, including his support for a surge that was supposed to achieve political reconciliation.”

    The facts are clearly on Obama’s side here.

    (C&L)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:25 PM

  50. Obama to Jews: Don't Judge Me by Funny Name


    Obama said he is distressed by strains between blacks and Jews in America, two groups "who have been uprooted and been on the outside." Martin Luther King Jr. would not have been able to accomplish so much in the battle for civil rights without help from Jewish supporters, he said.

    "I want to make sure that I am one of the vehicles by which we can rebuild those bonds," the Illinois senator said.

    ~~~~~

    OK, so let's see what ya got Mr Magic Man? You can start now with this, that is if you can:
    ~~~


    Black, Jewish Crown Heights Leaders Seek Unity
    Upswing In Recent Violence Has Communities At Odds

    Fears Of Riots Similar To 1991 Grip Residents


    Sean Hennessey NEW YORK (CBS) ― Police are mobilizing a massive presence in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn in the wake of increased tension between African American and Jewish communities.

    Leaders from both communities have come together recently to preach cooperation among residents of the neighborhood where African Americans and Hassidic Jews live side by side. But recent violence has shown that religion and race don't always mix.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:32 PM

  51. In 2000, McCain admits he’d be too old to run in 2008

    As McCain gets ready to release his medical records in a very limited fashion today, I’ve come across a clip back on 08/01/2000. He’s being interviewed by Jim Lehrer on News Hour and admits that he’d be too old to run in 2008.


    Lehrer: Finally for the record, you have not lost your desire to be President of the United States have you?

    McCain: Certainly it’s been put in deep cold storage. haha..

    Lehrer: You haven’t lost it?

    McCain: Well, in 2004, I expect to be campaigning for the reelection of President George W. Bush, and by 2008, I think I might be ready to go down to the old soldiers home and await the cavalry charge there.

    Nobody can complain if age comes up anymore since the candidate has made it an issue as far back as 2000 all by himself. Americans polled are sure worried about it anyway…

    (C&L)

    *****

    I guess that was before the dementia set in?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:37 PM

  52. The facts are clearly on Obama’s side here.

    ~~~

    No there not! Again, you lie about McCain stance on the war. He has said from the start that we needed more troops to win and when he got the surge he was proved right.

    Now take your boy Obummer, He was against the war from the start, but now we know that he is an appeaser and that he would have let Saddam continue to break every UN resolution under the sun.

    Not to mention looking the other way while the UN Oil for Food program line the pockets of his favorite dictators pockets while starving the people.

    We know that all Saddam would have to do is wave the "I have weapons of mass destruction" red flag and Obummer would be all over himself appeasing poor Saddam.


    The facts are clearly on Obummers side that he is weak on National Security ~~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:41 PM

  53. I guess that was before the dementia set in?
    ~~~

    You have dementia? Explains a lot!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:42 PM

  54. Obama, time to meet reality

    NY Daily News ^ | May 23 2008 | Charles Krauthammer


    When the House of Representatives takes up arms against $4 gas by voting 324-to-84 to sue OPEC, you know that election-year discourse has gone surreal. Another unmistakable sign is when a presidential candidate makes a gaffe, then, realizing it is too egregious to take back without suffering humiliation, decides to make it a centerpiece of his foreign policy.

    Before the Democratic debate of July 23, Barack Obama had never expounded upon the wisdom of meeting, without precondition, with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Bashar Assad, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong Il or the Castro brothers. But in that debate, he was asked about doing exactly that. Unprepared, he said sure - then got fancy, declaring the Bush administration's refusal to do so not just "ridiculous" but "a disgrace."

    After that, there was no going back. So he doubled down. What started as a gaffe became policy. By now, it has become doctrine. Yet it remains today what it was on the day he blurted it out: an absurdity.

    Should the President ever meet with enemies? Sometimes, but only after minimal American objectives - i.e. preconditions - have been met. The Shanghai communique was largely written long before Richard Nixon ever touched down in China. Yet Obama thinks Nixon to China confirms the wisdom of his willingness to undertake a worldwide freshman-year tyrants tour.

    Most of the time you don't negotiate with enemy leaders because there is nothing to negotiate. Does Obama imagine that North Korea, Iran, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela are insufficiently informed about American requirements for improved relations?

    There are always contacts through back channels or intermediaries. Iran, for example, has engaged in five years of talks with our closest European allies and the International Atomic Energy Agency, to say nothing of the hundreds of official U.S. statements outlining exactly what we would give them in return for suspending uranium enrichment.

    Obama pretends that while he is for such "engagement," the cowboy Republicans oppose it. Another absurdity. No one is debating the need for contacts. The debate is over the stupidity of elevating rogue states and their tyrants, easing their isolation and increasing their leverage by granting them unconditional meetings with the President of the world's superpower.

    Obama cited Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman as Presidents who met with enemies. Does he know no history? Neither Roosevelt nor Truman ever met with any of the leaders of the Axis powers. Obama must be referring to the pictures he's seen of Roosevelt and Stalin at Yalta, and Truman and Stalin at Potsdam. Does he not know that at that time Stalin was a wartime ally?


    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:46 PM

  55. Vets for Freedom: Obama will go to Iran but not Iraq


    Vets for Freedom has a new ad out that attacks Barack Obama for his policies on Iraq and Iran. The video features Sgt. Garrett Anderson, a wounded Iraq War veteran from the Illinois National Guard, speaking about his attempts to meet with Obama earlier this year. Anderson says that Obama couldn’t make time for a veteran from his home state, but apparently wants to make time for enemies of the US:


    ~~~~~

    Wow! This is going to be very effective~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:54 PM

  56. Jim Webb's Phony Attempt to *Support the Troops*
    5/22/08 | HMV

    Jim Webb seems like the perfect person to sponsor a nearly irresistable bill to "support the troops". After all, he is a former Secretary of the Navy, and has a son in the military.

    Just a few things are wrong with his proposal, it is excessive, unneeded, and helps few, if any, service members. What it really is, is a bald face attempt to show how much the Democrats "care" about our troops. Do they?

    I wonder if Mr. Webb ignored the facts or just chose to create an unneeded layer of assistance that makes him and his fellow conspirators just look good?

    If he studied the facts, he would realize that current benefits are generous by every standard. Veterans can obtain benefits of $1500 per month for college education. That amounts to $18,000 per year for a year-round student, that's a "full ride" at many schools! Moreover, there are often state incentives for vets to go to college, and there are also many private and public groups that offer need-based scholarships to veterans. With all of this assistance available, most veterans should be heading to school in droves.

    But they're not. In fact, only 8%, that's EIGHT PERCENT, of all veterans use up their entire VA education benefits.

    Why? Many reasons. First of all, the services themselves provide top-notch training in many high-tech career fields, obviating the need for further education and training for the job market.

    Second, active duty members are highly encouraged to attend college while still on active duty. Many do so because of the availability of low-cost, convenient on-base evening classes, as well as tuition assistance provided by the military services that does not require the use of GI benefits. Many earn a college degree without ever tapping into GI Bill benefits.

    Finally, experiential learning while in the military is also good for college credits. Various military education courses and skill ratings earn college credits with many colleges that offer after-hours education.

    The VA simply can't "give away" ll the benefits that service memebers accrue, for the reasons stated above. Jim Webb's antics are like the ice cream cone vendor that offers a free scoop of ice cream in a flavor not everyone wants, and then tries to sell himself as a marketing genius for doubling the offer to two scoops!

    I've spoken with military members, and I've found that they see little attractiveness over what already exists in Webb's proposal. What most members would like would be to pass their benefits on to their spouse or children. To them, this would be the best way to pass along benefits to those who made sacrifices at home during the many deployments that our service members face. This is exactly what John mcCain has proposed.

    What has been written here is based on information that is readily available. Jim Webb knows all of this intimately, but he is more interested in setting a political trap for Republicans, specifically Senator McCain, than to truly help the troops.

    If he cared for the troops, he would fund a war authorization bill without any strings attached, and let the issue of veteran's benefits enjoy the individual time and attention it so rightfully deserves.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 5:59 PM

  57. Got to hand it to Webb. He's only been in the Senate for over a year and already has become one of the best Democrat Partisan bullies in the Senate. Maybe he thinks he's one of the characters in those fiction books he wrote.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 6:03 PM

  58. So once again, we ask: Which McCain are we getting?

    McCain #1: I support right-wing pastors. I strongly believe in what they have to say. I could listen to them all day long. Oh, what I said in 2000 - political opportunism. Show I can rebel against the party.

    McCain #2: I don't agree with Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Parsley, and the others. They make me sick. I'm sucking up to them for political opportunism, and because I really need to suck up to the base. Why don't they think I'm not conservative enough?

    (buzzflash)

    Fair question to ask.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 6:04 PM

  59. If John McCain doesn't believe in these radical, right-wing pastors, then why should he have any credibility? And if McCain can't stand up to the right-wing "religious conservatives," his glorious base, how will he stand up for the rest of us?

    We do know Republicans have sucked up to hateful, right-wing pastors for the last 25 years, but many hoped McCain would be different. The only difference with McCain is that he isn't that good at sucking up, but he still tried anyway. Maybe he should just stay away from religion altogether.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 6:17 PM

  60. I would want to change the subject from Obamas flip flop on Iran to Hagee and Parsley also. Obviously, Obamas weakness on national security and appeasement are a loser for the rabid left.

    If you can't defend him then change the subject and attack on anything that might stick. Weak but predictable liberal tactic.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 6:42 PM

  61. BARACK'S BOCA BATTLE: WINNING OVER SYNAGOGUE SKEPTICS

    May 23, 2008 | Charles Hurt


    BOCA RATON, Fla. - Does Barack Obama have any close Jewish friends?

    That was the bottom-line question one voter hit him with yesterday during his visit to the B'nai Torah Congregation here.

    Michael Ackerman - "a Brooklyn-to-Boca" is how he described himself - got hooted back into his seat by the synagogue crowd that didn't appreciate his directness.

    But Ackerman had only wanted to know if the Democratic front-runner from Chicago has any close personal friends who are Jewish and why he seems to have so many acquaintances who are Palestinian.

    What Ackerman needed to find out was something that cuts to the heart of some Jews' coolness toward Obama.

    Very carefully, Obama responded that he wanted to avoid just saying that some of his best friends are Jewish, but then proceeded to list longtime friends who are.

    Ackerman wasn't reassured by the response.

    "It's very easy to come down here to south Florida to a synagogue and preach to the choir about how much you love Israel," said Ackerman, 52.

    "But I want to see him say that in Dearborn, Michigan, before a hall full of Muslims. Then he will have my attention."

    ~~~

    Great point, huh Capt?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:03 PM

  62. Congresswoman threatens to nationalize oil industry
    Maxine Waters warns Shell president in House committee hearing

    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    In a grilling of oil executives by a House panel yesterday, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., threatened to nationalize the industry if it didn't do something about the rising prices at the pump.

    A report by Fox News, captured in a clip posted on YouTube.com, showed Waters challenging the president of Shell Oil, John Hofmeister, to guarantee the prices consumers pay will go down if the oil companies are allowed to drill wherever they want off of U.S. shores.

    Hofmeister replied: "I can guarantee to the American people, because of the inaction of the United States Congress, ever-increasing prices unless the demand comes down. And the $5 will look like a very low price in the years to come if we are prohibited from finding new reserves, new opportunities to increase supplies."


    Waters responded, in part, "And guess what this liberal would be all about. This liberal will be about socializing … uh, um. …"

    The congresswoman paused to collect her thoughts.

    "Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies. …"

    The oil executives responded, according to Fox News, by saying they've seen this before, in Hugo Chavez's Venezuela.

    ~~~~~~

    Wow! Change is a comin folks!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:07 PM

  63. Sen McCain says Sen Obama wants to meet unconditionally with a person who has called for the annihilation of Israel. Sen McCain has taken the endorsement of a religious leader who has called for the annihilation of Islam and another that has called the holocaust necessary. Would someone point out how the straight talk express can say this with a straight face? I listened to an interview with McCain on NPR in early 2005 and was amazed at how he had changed after being kissed by the pope at the Garden in 2004.

    Now he says he's in great health, after releasing 1000 pages of medical history which no doubt proves, by shear abundance alone, how he is the better candidate over Obama who would be challenged to produce even ten pages. Melanoma, polyps, diverticulitis, kidney stones, bladder stones, and 100% disabled. We'll need earmarks to keep this guy alive til the midterms. Reminds me of my dad in his last years. "

    How are you doing Mr. 01? "
    "I'm doing great" Aside from bone cancer, prostate cancer, 1 kidney, angina and a heart rate of 150 he was doing fine. Lived to be 75, and is thankful he didn't see a 2nd Bush term.

    Shame on the Dems in Washington. Adding needed benefits for the troops and unemployments extensions is great, if you want to mask the fact that a $540 defense budget and a $240 supplemental war spending bill is something other than $750. Add to this $40 for intelligence and $210 for homemade security we are spending $1 trillion per year to keep us safe from terrists.

    Middle school humor. Chewing gum keeps elephants in trees invisible. You've never seen an elephant in a tree chewing gum so that proves it works. This sums up Bush's war on terror.

    I hate Memorial Day. I remember the parades as a kid with the WWI vets in wheel chairs, followed by the 40 year olds from WWII and the 30 somethings from Korea. Now the 60 somethings are from Nam and the 40 year olds are from Gulf War I. Saw a car magnet yesterday - pray for our troops.

    What honor was there in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Granada, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, The Dominican Republic, Columbia, Detroit, Kent State, Selma Alabama, Watts, and New Orleans? We need an essential Military we can be proud of. They need uniforms, flags, drums and horns. For battle we need diplomacy.

    Pray for the puppies crossing the highway!

    The only reason McCain has a 1000 page medical history is because we can afford him the very best health care. But spending a $1T on war every year certainly proves that not only can we afford the same for every American - we deserve it.

    I don't mean to offend you if you are a gun toting redneck. Put you weapon in your mouth and ESAD. It's the satisfaction you demand and the taste you deserve!


    Posted by: geof01 Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:17 PM

  64. Obummers pandering to Jews isn't paying off!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Obama's Reassurance
    New York Sun Editorial
    May 23, 2008

    If Senator Obama's mission yesterday at B'nai Torah in Boca Raton was to reassure the Jewish community on foreign policy, put us down as unreassured. These columns have been defending him from "Primary Colors"-style claims by his political opponents that he is an enemy of Israel. The e-mail campaigns portraying him as a secret Muslim or using guilt-by-association to impose on him the views of those with whom he has only tangential relations are odious and do a disservice to a candidate who has strived to be a friend to Israel and to American Jewry. Indeed, on some level it was stirring to see Mr. Obama stand in Florida yesterday and pledge himself to Israel's security while speaking movingly about the Jews who traveled on buses to help win civil rights for African Americans.

    Yet there was something disturbing — not about the candidate's youthful background or his name or a few of his third-tier foreign policy hangers-on, but about some of the words Mr. Obama himself spoke yesterday. He spoke of Israel lying between the "West Bank and the Mediterranean," using language he had spoken before to emphasize Israel's vulnerability and turning it into what sounded like a pre-judgment about borders for a state that used to be between the Jordan and the Mediterranean. He spoke of wanting to withdraw from Iraq and negotiate directly with Iran, relying on, he said, Europe and the Gulf States, along with the United Nations, and claiming that for America, legitimacy would come through diplomacy. He claimed that eight years of bluster toward Iran hadn't made American any safer.

    In fact, the Bush administration has been conducting low-level negotiations with Iran, directly and through intermediaries, for years, to no avail. The Battle of Iraq, far from strengthening Iran, may have briefly caused Iran to suspend its nuclear program. No one who cares about Israel's security would propose putting it in the hands of the Gulf States, Europe, or the United Nations, all of which are home to abiding hostility to the Jewish state. The Bush administration tried giving Europe the lead on Iran policy, and Democrats like Senator Clinton criticized it. "I don't believe you face threats like Iran or North Korea by outsourcing it to others," Mrs. Clinton said in 2006. Now Mr. Obama wants to try this kind of failed approach all over again.

    If Mr. Obama is correct that diplomacy lends legitimacy to America, diplomacy will also lend legitimacy to the regime in Iran. But true legitimacy comes not from diplomacy but from a government based on freedom, democracy, and the rule of law, which America has and Iran does not. In enumerating the things that would qualify Iran for the "carrot" of improved relations with America, Mr. Obama yesterday mentioned ending support for terrorism, recognizing Israel, and ceasing its nuclear weapons program. He made no mention of allowing freedom of the press, religion, assembly, or genuine elective democracy in Iran.

    In the end these aren't parochial issues but key foreign policy questions about Mr. Obama's perception of America's role in democracy promotion around the world and in protecting American national security. Iran, after all, isn't a threat just to Israel. Senator Lieberman told the Commentary dinner Sunday night that Iran is responsible for killing hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq. General Petraeus told the Senate yesterday that Iran's influence in Iraq is "lethal and it is illegitimate. They are arming, training, funding and directing militia extremists that have killed our soldiers."

    We'd be happy if Mr. Obama worried a little less about the Jewish vote in Florida and a little more about the Baha'i vote. The Anti-Defamation League issued a statement this week calling attention to the fact that six Bahai leaders in Iran had been arrested May 14 and a seventh has been detained since March. "The arrests of leaders of the Bahai faith demonstrate the seriousness of the loss of basic religious freedoms and human rights in Iran," the ADL said. The same spirit that animated Jews and blacks to work together for civil rights in the South can be found in the effort to win freedom for the people of the Middle East today. If Mr. Obama wants to cast that spirit aside in favor of negotiating with dictators and a realpolitick of allying with the Gulf States, he will be betraying not only his American Jewish supporters but people of all faiths around the world who have put their hope in America to stand for liberty

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:17 PM

  65. Pray for the puppies crossing the highway!

    ~~~~
    Wow! Geof get back on those meds, someone might take you for being a serious nut job!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:20 PM

  66. Another Obummer lie~~~~


    ELECTION 2008
    Obama misrepresented tie with Palestinian activist?
    Claims only 'conversations,' but association includes fundraisers, testimonials


    By Aaron Klein
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    Rashid Khalidi
    JERUSALEM – Did Sen. Barack Obama misrepresent his relationship with a pro-Palestinian activist and harsh critic of Israel who has been described as a friend of the senator?

    During a campaign stop yesterday at a Boca Raton, Fla., synagogue, Obama was asked about his association with Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, who has made repeated statements supportive of Palestinian terrorism.

    Obama replied: "You mentioned Rashid Khalidi, who's a professor at Columbia. I do know him, because I taught at the University of Chicago. And he is Palestinian. And I do know him, and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisers; he's not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel's policy."

    Continued Obama: "To pluck out one person who I know and who I've had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I'm not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take," he said. "So we gotta be careful about guilt by association."

    But Obama's relationship with Khalidi goes beyond conversation.

    Khalidi's ties to Obama were first exposed by WND in February in a widely cited article.

    According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.

    Sources at the university told WND that Khalidi and Obama lived in nearby faculty residential zones and that the two families dined together a number of times. The sources said the Obamas even babysat the Khalidi children.

    Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi, who spoke to WND in February.

    As WND reported, an anti-Israel Arab group run by Khalidi's wife, Mona, received crucial funding from a Chicago nonprofit, the Woods Fund, for which Obama served as a board member.

    In 2001, the Woods Fund, which describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to Khalidi's Arab American Action Network, or AAAN. The fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.

    Speakers at AAAN dinners and events routinely have taken an anti-Israel line.

    The group co-sponsored a Palestinian art exhibit, titled, "The Subject of Palestine," that featured works related to what some Palestinians call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of Israel's founding in 1948.

    When Khalidi departed the University of Chicago in 2003, Obama delivered an in-person testimonial at a farewell ceremony reminiscing about conversations over meals prepared by Mona Khalidi.

    According to a Los Angeles Times account, Obama said his talks with the Khalidis served as "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. … It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation – a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."

    Khalidi's farewell dinner was replete with anti-Israel speakers.

    One, a young Palestinian American, recited a poem in Obama's presence that accused the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticized U.S. support of Israel, the Times reported.

    Another speaker, who reportedly talked while Obama was present, compared "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:23 PM

  67. For those with more than a half of a wit about them, the concept of sending men to war is no different than sending puppies across a busy highway. "They are so dear to us. Pray for them. Isn't it great that they make such a sacrifice."

    For you I only have one comment. ESAD.

    Posted by: geof01 Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:25 PM

  68. More from Obummers Buddy:

    Israel a 'constant sore'

    Just last week, WND noted Obama termed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict a "constant sore" in an interview just five days after Khalidi wrote an opinion piece in the Nation magazine in which he called the "Palestinian question" a "running sore."

    In his piece, "Palestine: Liberation Deferred," Khalidi suggests Israel carried out "ethnic cleansing" of Palestinians; writes Western powers backed Israel's establishment due to guilt of the Holocaust; laments the Palestinian Authority's stated acceptance of a Palestinian state "only" in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and eastern sections of Jerusalem; and argues Israel should be dissolved and instead a bi-national, cantonal system should be set up in which Jews and Arabs reside

    During documented speeches and public events, Khalidi has called Israel an "apartheid system in creation" and a destructive "racist" state.

    He has multiple times implied support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings a response to "Israeli aggression." He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon."

    Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism and claim the dedication is in reference to the Palestine Liberation Organization, which at that time committed scores of anti-Western attacks and was labeled by the U.S. as a terrorist group

    'Sympathy for the Palestinian cause'

    Speaking in a joint interview with WND and WABC radio, Khalidi was asked about his 2000 fundraiser for Obama.

    "I was just doing my duties as a Chicago resident to help my local politician," Khalidi stated.

    Khalidi said he supports Obama for president, "because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause."

    Khalidi also lauded Obama for "saying he supports talks with Iran. If the U.S. can talk with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, there is no reason it can't talk with the Iranians."

    Asked about Obama's role funding the AAAN, Khalidi claimed he had "never heard of the Woods Fund until it popped up on a bunch of blogs a few months ago."

    He terminated the call when petitioned further about his links with Obama.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:27 PM

  69. They are so dear to us. Pray for them. Isn't it great that they make such a sacrifice."

    ~~~

    Yikes!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:29 PM

  70. Meanwhile, according to Israel's Ynetnews.com, the Republican Jewish Congress took out an ad in three southern Florida newspapers presenting three questions to Obama related to his Middle East policy views:

    In an interview, you called for a summit of Muslim nations, including Iran and Syria, but excluding Israel. Why? One of your top advisors, Tony McPeak, placed blame on Miami and NY Jews for the failure of the Middle East peace process, yet he remains in this role. Why? You were a board member of a foundation that funded, during your tenure, the Arab American Action Network, a pro-Palestinian organization. Why?

    ~~~

    Why Capt? Why?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:34 PM

  71. We can do better than this.

    Direct Democracy

    Posted by: Your Name Here Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:36 PM

  72. Rush: Obama's Pastor Loaded With Hate

    Friday, May 23, 2008 4:21 PM

    By: Philip V. Brennan Article Font Size

    Rush Limbaugh lashed out at Barack Obama for comments Obama made at a Florida fundraiser saying Rush and Lou Dobbs were inciting xenophobia.


    If he's looking for hate mongers, Limbaugh suggested, Obama should look at "his preacher, his spiritual adviser, [who] is loaded with hate."

    Obama used Thursday's fundraiser at the Westin Diplomat near Fort Lauderdale, to attack Limbaugh and CNN's Dobbs for their militant stand on immigration policy charging that "a certain segment has basically been feeding a kind of xenophobia. There’s a reason why hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year.”


    He then identified the culprits behind the hate crimes: “If you have people like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh ginning things up, it’s not surprising that would happen.”


    "My feelings are hurt here," Limbaugh said during his "Rush Limbaugh Show" Friday, adding, "I thought this guy was a unity candidate."


    To see real xenophobia and racism, Rush advised, one needs only to look at South Africa: "The insanity of [Obama's] claims, is evidenced by what real racism — xenophobia — looks like in black-led South Africa, a country that is held to be the embodiment of the victory over racism.


    "We have already covered the horrific racial violence, black-on-black, directed towards South African immigrants. After two weeks running, according to a report from the French News agency, violence is spreading: 'A wave of anti-immigrant violence in South Africa spread to Cape Town on Friday . . .'"


    This, said Limbaugh, "is real xenophobia. This is real racism."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Did Obummer reallt think he could take on Rush?

    Strike two!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:45 PM

  73. Why I Will No Longer Support John McCain For President

    I've never been a fan of John McCain. Not only is he not a conservative, he may have done more damage to the conservative movement than any other Republican over the last few years. Look back at the Gang-of-14, global warming, McCain-Feingold, coddling terrorists at Gitmo, illegal immigration -- on and on and on, and you'll remember John McCain working feverishly with liberals to defeat conservatives.

    For that reason, John McCain was not someone I backed for the Presidency. My order of preference for President was Duncan Hunter (whom I consulted for), Fred Thompson, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, and then, John McCain. That's why, right before his big win in Florida, I wrote an extra column for Townhall called A Conservative Nightmare: Republican Nominee, John McCain.

    http://tinyurl.com/6fj655

    ******

    If gramps can't get the cons who is going to elect him? Oh the HRC supporters - right.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 23, 2008 7:47 PM

  74. Mr. Corn,

    Congratulations! You didn't disappoint me. I suspected you'd be one of the
    pseudo journalists to try to whip your audience into a frenzy over the MSNBC/CNN inflated, preacher Parsley/Hagee nonsense.

    Now, of course, we dumbies are expected to see how McCains' passing
    brush with wacky clergyman equals and cancels out Obama's 20 year lovefest- relationship with Rev. Mega-Racist Wright. I get it.

    Sorry. It won't work with the critical thinkers in the group which, in this
    election year, are sadly in the minority.

    Posted by: prof marcia Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 1:04 AM

  75. Hey LHB and Ivory Bill Woodpecker,

    I like your style!

    Your posts are clever.

    By the way, I'm a Democrat who has been kicked to the curb by the
    neoliberation DNC.

    I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me.

    Posted by: prof marcia Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 1:28 AM

  76. I was amused to read LBH statement that if anyone baptizes your children you should know all of his views. That is about as silly a statement I've read here.

    I can see, the interview of the priest, Tell me reverend tell me all of your innermost personal thoughts and views about life the iniverse and everything and sum it up before the kid graduates from highschool.

    Posted by: kalpal Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 6:20 AM


  77. The shame does not lie with Wright and Hagee. History has shown that wherever civilization exists, dangerous buffoons will assert themselves. The shame is that American politics has degenerated to the point where these toxic God-wielders are actively courted by those who would be our leaders. Yes, Obama and McCain repudiated them, but what does it say about where we are as a nation that men like Wright and Hagee matter in the first place?

    (huffpo)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 6:57 AM

  78. Although some experts have speculated that sun exposure during his imprisonment may have led to his cancer, the records are unlikely to speak directly to the effects of his years as a prisoner of war. Despite his painful and harrowing captivity, McCain has never received a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said, and research suggests that the syndrome has been rare in American aviator POWs who served in the Vietnam War.

    The records being released today contain "no psychological material because McCain has not been treated for anything related to that in the time frame of records we are releasing," she said.

    (CBS)

    ******

    Never treated for PTSD?

    Way more substantial than his spiritual pandering. It is why the guy has such a foul temperment and explains the bursts of anger.

    This guy should never be president. Well the warmongers love the instability because we all know that means more wars.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 7:17 AM

  79. To be charitable, Clinton's recent comments about hardworking white voters and the RFK assassination have not improved her perceived electability. She would do better to stop antagonizing Obama supporters and undecided supers, and to get some rest and lay low for a while, than to continue what even the Governor of her state sees as desperate tactics.


    As it is, she has already ruined her chances of being on the ticket as vice-president and is rapidly losing her chance to be the second choice candidate, should something tragic happen. So, if we are judging things by how they help Clinton, she has not been too successful lately. But if we are judging things by how they hurt Obama, she has been all too successful.


    For these reasons, it really appears that one of two things is the case. Either Clinton is somewhat unhinged and is engaged in self-destructive behavior, or she is actively undermining Obama's chances, not of winning the nomination, but of winning the election in November.


    And in either of these two cases, it is necessary for responsible people to ask her to drop out. That's the answer to the question she could not answer.

    (kos)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 7:46 AM

  80. A Tuesday fundraiser headlined by President Bush for U.S. Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign is being moved out of the Phoenix Convention Center.

    Sources familiar with the situation said the Bush-McCain event was not selling enough tickets to fill the Convention Center space, and that there were concerns about more anti-war protesters showing up outside the venue than attending the fundraiser inside.

    (kos)

    ****

    Maybe McSame would do better without the help from Mr. 23%?

    Just sayin'

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | May 24, 2008 8:53 AM

  81. Hillary's Demise Was All About Iraq

    [...]

    Here are the lessons I draw from 2006. Had Sen. Clinton used her Senate re-election race in 2006 to admit her vote was wrong, she would be preparing to accept the Democratic nomination for president. Sen. Clinton's supporters failed her. People like Nadler and others, more concerned with their political futures and having no backbone to confront a then-feared political machine, refused to demand that she admit her vote for the war was a mistake. By falling into line with t