What is she thinking?
That seems to be the question of the moment That is--even after her whopping (though irrelevant) win in West Virginia--why is Hillary Clinton fighting on after the bell has rung? And one new meme has developed: it's all about 2012.
Tom Edsall writes,
Under one scenario - Obama gets the nomination but loses to John McCain - Clinton could begin her 2012 campaign on November 5, 2008, as a vindicated politician, using the narrative that she was the better candidate.
And Charles Hurt of The New York Post notes:
With no hope of winning her party's nomination, Hillary Rodham Clinton is running out the clock by laying the foundation for her political future, circa 2012. As she seems to float in and out of reality on the campaign trail, it is so easy to dismiss her as delusional. She is not.
I'm proud to be a founding member of this meme. Before Hurt and Edsall posted, I put up my own version of the this-is-all-about-2012 theory:
Why is Hillary Clinton still in the race?
....[C]ommentators have come up with several obvious explanations:
* She wants to remain in the hunt just in case something happens. (A video appears of Wright calling for armed revolution? Fox News produces Obama's Secret Muslim Membership card?)
* She is staying in for one last round of fundraising. (Her campaign is $20 million in debt and owes her $11 million.)
* She wants to end her historic campaign with a string of victories: West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico. (Puerto Rico? She is a senator from New York.)
* And the most obvious of them all: she's not yet ready to face the music.
No doubt, a combo of these rationales is fueling Clinton's impossible ride. But let me add one more to the mix: Clinton is setting up the biggest I-told-you-so in recent American political history.
Assume Obama is the nominee and imagine that he loses to McCain in the fall. Where would that leave Clinton? She would be able to wag her finger at her party, and she wouldn't even have to say those haughty words. She and her die-hard confederates would be able to note simply and smugly, We did try to warn you. In the following four years, they would remind reporters, party leaders, Democratic voters, and everyone else, over and over, that they had said that Obama was unelectable, that they had said he could not win blue-collar (that is, white) voters. This Clinton chorus would not cease singing this song for a nanosecond. Can't you just see Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe lecturing cable news hosts on this point? Hiding their schadenfreude--just barely--they would note that they had won the fundamental argument of 2008: who understands American voters the best? And in this scenario, Hillary Clinton would be well-positioned for 2012. In fact, she would have such bragging rights as to be able to question any other Democrat's entry into the presidential contest. She might even expect the party this time to hand her the nomination on a platter--accompanied with one big apology.
....By staying in the race, Clinton has been--and will be--able to pocket more of those blue-collar voters. And with a decisive win in Puerto Rico on June 1, she could cut into Obama's edge in the popular vote. Even if she has no shot at coaxing superdelegates with her blue-collar argument, she will be bolstering her you-should've-listened-to-me argument, in case the voters in the general election send Obama packing.
So are the clever, cunning and never-say-die Clintons already calculating an alternative path to the White House, a course that will take another four and a half years? And is it an insult or a compliment to suggest they are? Such a plan--or is it a scheme?--would entail that Hillary Clinton not bloody Obama much more, for that would risk alienating certain Democratic voters (most notably, blacks) even more than they have been. And for this strategy to work, she will have to be seen--after an Obama defeat--as having done all she could for him in the general election.
The good news for Obama-lovers and Hillary-haters: her presidential ambitions (for 2012, not 2008) offer an incentive for her to be a gracious loser and an enthusiastic Obama supporter once she withdraws from the nomination race. The bad news? if her calculations are right, she may be out of the presidential race for only a few months and then back in for another four years.
Tell me what you think in the comments below. And read my full piece here.

Comments
Wow!
Pansy was working over time with his Man Crush on LBH! Silly Boy!
It's too bad that 51% of Democrats in WV who think Obamas untrustworthy don't believe your lies!
Silly Cornnut!
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 12:31 PM
She won! Of the last three elections they have split the delegates, and Obama has gained super delegates.
By June 3rd she may gain 5 delegates over Obama and he will need less than 30 to lock the nomination.
All she needs is 209 of the remaining 238 super delegates to catch up. That's 88%.
No Problem!
Posted by: geof01
| May 14, 2008 12:34 PM
"for her to be a gracious loser and an enthusiastic Obama supporter once she withdraws from the nomination race."
That train left the station. She will be polite but gracious? That is more than she will afford an opponent. As far as her enthusiasm - it will be as fake as the rest of her persona.
I think Barack needs to put as much distance between him and her. He has nothing to gain except her negatives, that is all she has done so far - drive his negatives up. Mission Accomplished.
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 12:37 PM
Rassmussen poll:
However, if Clinton does not win the Democratic Party nomination, 29% of Democrats say she should run an Independent campaign for the White House.
As for Barack Obama, 25% Democrats say he should drop out.
Ouch!
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 1:18 PM
Popular Vote Total
Obama: 16,104,613 49.3%
Clinton: 15,511,003 47.5%
Obama +593,610 +1.8%
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)**
Obama: 16,680,827 47.6%
Clinton: 16,710,298 47.7%
Clinton +29,471 +0.08%
If you count *ALL THE VOTES* Hillary WINS!!!
Silly Cornnuts~~~
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 1:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZooF5vEtp0
This is a great video piece. Totally off topic but . . .
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 1:34 PM
Clinton, D-N.Y., gets fresh ammunition for her final argument to the superdelegates -- and just maybe enough fresh cash to fund three more weeks of this.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., hits a 41-point speed bump on his road to the nomination -- a fresh reminder that there's something just plain missing from his appeal to Democrats. (And consider this a response in his "national conversation" about race -- don't say he didn't ask for it.)
One week after the press essentially declared him the nominee, two-thirds of Democratic voters in a swing state said thanks, but no thanks. It may matter approximately not at all in determining the nomination -- but as Obama looks toward the general, these are warning signs he can't hope away.
And with Clinton still trying to win this thing, she'll be there to remind him -- and the supers -- about it.
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 1:42 PM
Approval of U.S. Congress ties record lows
May 14 (UPI) -- The approval rating of the U.S. Congress dropped to near-record levels and is lower than U.S. President George Bush's mark, a Gallup poll indicates.
The telephone survey of 1,017 U.S. adults indicates 18 percent of those interviewed May 8-11 approve of the current Congress. The score matches record lows from similar Gallup polls in August 2007 and March 1992.
Gallup said Wednesday the reason for the low approval rating is because "rank-and-file Democrats are providing no support cushion for the Democratic-controlled institution."
The same poll indicated approval ratings of Bush hover around his record lows, with 29 percent of respondents voicing support for the president.
Gallup reported a sampling error of 3 percentage points.
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Here that Pansy?
Repubs have nothing to do with the dis-satisfaction of the DimWit Dems in charge~~~
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 2:10 PM
You mean "hear" not "here".
A simple way to remember which is which - one has the word "ear" in it.
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 2:15 PM
Comment for empty space - The republicans brought Congress to its knees and until Bush is gone nothing is going to get done. To make it clear, congress rates as Bush rates for one reason - Bush.
By the way - you write very well for a seventh grade student.
Posted by: geof01
| May 14, 2008 2:34 PM
When the highest type of men hear Tao,
They diligently practice it.
When the average type of men hear Tao,
They half believe in it.
When the lowest type of men hear Tao,
They laugh heartily at it.
Without the laugh, there is no Tao.
Lao-tzu (604 BC - 531 BC), The Way of Lao-tzu
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 2:42 PM
Clinton should be pushing for VP and give a strong reason for it. She would not be the traditional choice. The best pick would probably be the same person she would choose if nominated.
As for 2012 - she obviously wants it now and isn't done challenging the process.
Posted by: geof01
| May 14, 2008 3:52 PM
Capt & Geof
Don't get too smug about the writin skilz, I'm trying to communicate on your level so it doesn't completely go over your heads!
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 4:00 PM
Obama Gaffes on Iraq and Afghanistan
ABC News ^ | 5/13/08 | David Wright
As for the point about Arabic translators needed for Afghanistan, the Obama campaign points to the well-documented presence of foreign fighters there, many of whom do speak Arabic. However, these folks are mostly shooting at NATO troops, not talking to them. No doubt there are a handful of Arabic speakers employed at Bagram and Kandahar and other detention centers to interrogate foreign fighters captured on the battlefield. But I have not seen any reports that there is a shortage of such personnel, or that the need for such translators in Iraq has hamstrung the interrogators in Afghanistan. Foreign fighters captured...
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Whoops, another Obama Jr moment~~
Posted by: LBH
| May 14, 2008 4:24 PM
ABC News confirms that John Edwards will endorse Barack Obama at an event tonight in Michigan:
Former Sen. John Edwards is endorsing Sen. Barack Obama's presidential candidate Wednesday evening, in a dramatic attempt by the Obama campaign to answer concerns regarding Obama's appeal to working-class voters, several senior Democratic sources tell ABC News.
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It's never too late to do the right thing.
Better late than never I always say.
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 5:25 PM
GOP Adviser: This is '94 In Reverse, We're Pathetic
A palpable sense of doom has set in among Republican rank and file as the party begins to lick its wounds from last night's defeat in a special Mississippi congressional election. The loss, which was the GOP's third straight in what had been reliably Republican districts, spurned talks of even greater, historical setbacks in the fall.
"This is 1994 all over again," Frank Luntz, a famed Republican communications consultant, told The Huffington Post. "I was there. I saw it firsthand. The Republicans of 2008 are behaving exactly like the Democrats of '94 and making exactly the same mistakes. It's pathetic."
Indeed, even the leadership team responsible for shepherding the GOP's election efforts acknowledged that the party's political vital signs were depressing. Rep. Tom Cole, who heads the National Republican Congressional Committee, didn't bother to try and put a good spin on the loss in Mississippi -- where Democrat Travis Childers won with an eight percent margin in a district that Bush carried by 25 percent in 2004.
http://tinyurl.com/5jwvnq
*****
As the "church lady" from SNL would say:
"Isn't that precious"
lol
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 5:36 PM
Boehner’s ‘New’ GOP Strategy: Same Policies, ‘Refurbished’ Message
[...]
The Washington Times reports today that House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) said that “his party does not need to change its core principles,” but instead will bank on a “refurbished” message. “It’s a change election,” Boehner admitted, and according to him, only the Republican “brand” needs changing:
“It’s not that the party’s going to change, it’s what we talk about and how we talk about it,” he said. “You look at the Republican brand name being where it is, let’s be frank about it. Iraq has been very unpopular, right? It’s associated with Republicans. The president’s job approval is somewhere down around 30. Those are the two big issues that hurt the brand.“
http://tinyurl.com/69hajb
*****
Since the policies have worked so well, just the branding needs to change. That is until November because that shows backbone.
Maybe it will take the GOP to victory!
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 6:38 PM
Wow, listening to BHO - good luck running against this guy.
There isn't a politician alive that can touch him.
For better or worse, he is a talented politician, speaker and orator.
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 7:22 PM
There is always the possibility that Clinton is staying in because the 16million+ people that voted for her have asked her to stay in. Maybe, just maybe she is actually doing what the voters want. What a novel idea in politics. Doesn't make for great commentary so we'll probably never see this as a headline:
Politician Represents the People, Does what Voters Want.
Posted by: anjela3
| May 14, 2008 7:25 PM
Why Hillary Is So Hard to Take
It’s increasingly difficult to listen to Hillary Clinton give her speeches these days.
For one thing, there’s no poetry there.
Her opener Tuesday night in West Virginia, for instance, was an allusion to a John Denver song, for God’s sakes. (“Almost heaven,” she said.)
For another, she’s schizophrenic.
One minute she says, “I can lead this party to victory in the general election,” and the next minute she says, “I will work my heart out for the nominee of the Democratic Party to make sure we have a Democratic President.”
Her cuts at Obama, now more subtle than before, are still unkind, as when she says Democrats should elect someone “who is ready to execute the office of the Presidency.” At least this time she didn’t add her tired mantra, “on day one.”
And her repeated claim to be the “strongest” candidate, which she said four times Tuesday night, her repeated emphasis on what a fighter she is, implies that Obama just might not be tough enough for the task at hand.
“I am ready to go head-to-head with John McCain to put our vision for America up against the one he shares with President Bush,” she said. “Now, I believe our party is strong enough for this challenge. I am strong enough for it.”
Also, coming on the heels of her infamous “hardworking Americans, white Americans” comment last week, it was a little unsettling for her to say that one of the reasons she’s still in the race is for “all of the hardworking men and women who defy the odds to build a better life for themselves and their children.”
But most of all, it’s the Clinton shell game, the Clinton hustle, the constant Clinton angle-playing that is so irritating.
There she was again playing up her victories in Michigan and Florida, even though she and Obama had agreed not to campaign in those states, and Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan.
There she was again, saying that the number of delegates needed to win is now 2,209—not the 2,025 that the DNC has stipulated from the start.
All of these antics reinforce the impression that the Clintons will do anything to win.
It’s an impression that is fast freezing into a permanent smudge on their reputation.
http://www.progressive.org/?q=mag_wx051408
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There are no wounds suffered by her or her campaign that are not self inflicted.
Posted by: capt
| May 14, 2008 7:46 PM
This was supposed to be the day the Hillz celebrated the deep dish buttkicking that she gave Obama.
Instead, if you look at the headlines (on this page just to the left of the David Corn banner, this is what you see:
1. Clinton Superdelegate Reveals He Voted for Obama
Oof. That had to hurt. A stab in the back and a kick in the teeth.
2. Edwards Finally Decides: It’s Obama
Yikes! A stab in the front and a kick in the head.
3. Clinton Continues to Raise Money Despite Long Odds
Read: she's broke and she's camping out on your sofa, Senator Obama.
I know when I'm feeling down, nothing cheers me up like a fresh bowl of warm Late Nite Funnies.
"I don't know if Barack Obama's getting tired or what, but in a recent speech, Barack Obama made a mistake. He said he had visited all 57 states. Yeah, that's what he said. Yeah, after hearing this, President Bush said, 'Haha, he forgot Alaska and Hawaii!'"
--Conan O'Brien
"Hillary Clinton, big blowout in West Virginia's primary tonight. Yeah, she's the big winner in West Virginia. Which means that one day, she could be president of West Virginia."
--Jay Leno
"You know, Hillary's campaign [is] $20 million in debt. $20 million, which proves, if anything, she could be president."
--Jay Leno
"Well, you know what's interesting? Political experts say Hillary Clinton will soon have to face the moment of truth. That's what they called it today, 'the moment of truth.' I love politics. They campaign and lie to us for six months, but we only get a "moment" of truth. Why can't we have a little more truth?"
--Jay Leno
"Actually, Barack Obama slipped up this past week. You know, this campaigning, it's endless, it's hard. Like, in an interview, he said he campaigned in all 57 states. That's what he said. But, see, they all make mistakes. Like Hillary Clinton, the only two states she knows are Florida and Michigan. John McCain, he still thinks there's only 13 colonies."
--Jay Leno
"And President Bush announced this week that he will go to Saudi Arabia and meet with King Abdullah. That's got to be nerve-wracking for President Bush, huh? Being called to the carpet by the big boss."
--Jay Leno
"With all the problems we have going on right here, how many think it's a mistake for him to leave the country? I'm curious. How many think the mistake is him coming back?"
--Jay Leno
"You know President Bush actually cried at his daughter's wedding? Did you see that in the news? ... I haven't seen a grown man cry like that since Bill Clinton realized Hillary might be coming home a lot sooner than he thought"
--Jay Leno
"Here's the thing that troubles me. I mean, win, lose or draw, at the end of the day, the bottom line, cut to the chase, it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money to elect a president, don't you think? Really it's an awful lot of money. Hillary Clinton's campaign right now, this very minute, is $20 million in debt. Now, when she gets that 3 a.m. call, it's from a collection agency."
--David Letterman
"Hillary says she's staying in the race because there are new patterns emerging, such as lower educated white men are now supporting her. That's what she said. Polls show she has strong support among lesser-educated white males. So you know what that means: President Bush could be voting for her now."
--Jay Leno
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 9:17 PM
Funnies from all over. The reality that they are soooo totally scrood is beginning to sink in. As Hunter used to say, echoing Joey Conrad: The Horror. The Horror.
Krikorian despairs after Mississippi. Quinnipiac shows both Obama and Clinton beating McCain easily. Obama-scares in the Deep South went nowhere, as Larison explains:
The public mood is so bad and so hostile to the national GOP that drawing direct connections between their candidate and the national party, as they did constantly, seems to have done more to doom Davis’ chances than help them. The ham-fisted attempt to link Childers to Obama (”Childers said nothing!”) gave off the scent of desperation, and rural Mississippians in the district who were already inclined to vote for one of their own against a ridiculous-looking suburban mayor weren’t buying it.
Powerline concedes:
The Republican nominee, whether we feel comfortable about it or not, isn't necessarily seen as intimately associated with the Republican brand. Even so, I think that Republican nominee is running uphill.
What does this say about what Bush and Rove and Cheney have done to the brand? What does it say about those conservatives who cheered them on?
Source: http://tinyurl.com/4zruz7
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What does it say? Dead. Man. Walking.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 9:37 PM
Looks like somebody in the DMW is using something "approved for the treatment “of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults.” I know things are rough all over for the Republicans; but I never figured that they'd turn to drugs:
In today’s New York Times’ Caucus blog, Carl Hulse reports that House Republicans have got themselves a brand-new slogan:
It looks like Republicans will counter the Democratic push for change from the years of the Bush administration with their own pledge to deliver, drum roll please, “the change you deserve.” […]
What the GOP doesn’t seem to realize, because they are idiots, is that “the change you deserve” is the registered advertising slogan of Effexor XR. … also known as Venlafaxine, is approved for the treatment “of depression, generalized anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder, and panic disorder in adults.”
This has to rank right up there in GOP nescience-cum-hilarity apropos of everything right alongside their choice for the RNC Convention logo following Sen Larry Craig’s toe tapping scandal.
C-&-L: http://tinyurl.com/6fazg7
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 9:46 PM
...at a meeting tonight at work regarding a new computer system I heard our Dept. Director said, "In no time, you'll all be PROZAC ADDICTS!"
(actually she said "Pros At CTS"...but the difference is negligible...)
Posted by: Hajji
| May 14, 2008 10:00 PM
More funnies from the Late Nite Pros:
"Over the weekend in Texas, President Bush's daughter, Jenna, got married. Very nice, yeah. Afterwards, President Bush said, 'I haven't cried that much since Steve left 'Blues Clues.''
--Conan O'Brien
"That was so sweet, because at the reception, President Bush danced with his lovely daughter. It's the first time he has led in eight years."
--David Letterman
"No, everyone, apparently, had a very good time at the wedding. And afterwards, the press asked him, and President Bush said it was 'spectacular.' Yeah, when asked why, President Bush said, 'Three words: the chicken dance.'"
--Conan O'Brien
"Right now, this is interesting, director Oliver Stone is making a movie about President Bush that's called 'W.' Yeah. He's also making a movie about John McCain called 'No Country for Old Men.'"
--Conan O'Brien
"Well, John McCain said in his speech today, if he is elected president, he will fight evil. Until then, he will just continue to fight incontinence."
--Jay Leno
"And former congressman Bob Barr entered the race today as a Libertarian. He's a Libertarian. See, I don't think Bush understands these terms. When they asked Bush about it, he said, 'Look, I don't care if the guy doesn't eat meat, what does he stand for?'"
--Jay Leno
"Jenna Bush is getting married over the weekend. But she did not sign a prenup. Apparently, the family doesn't believe in exit strategies."
--Craig Ferguson
"President Bush's daughter Jenna is getting married this weekend in Crawford, Texas. It'll be a relatively small wedding. Only her family's loved ones will be there: the CEOs of the five major oil companies."
--Jay Leno
"This week, New York City Congressman Vito Fossella was arrested for drunk driving, then caught having an extramarital affair, then exposed for having a secret child with his mistress. Or, as it's known in Washington, the trifecta."
--Seth Meyers
"The state of Israel turns 60 on Thursday, meaning it won't be long before it moves to Florida."
--Amy Poehler
"The price of stamps is going up next week from 41 cents to 42 cents. Aw, that's cute, said oil."
--Amy Poehler
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:04 PM
The huuuge string of lies posted by the Homeschooler yesterday seems to be the plan for attacking Obama from now till November. The lies of the DMW:
John Boehner's surrogate has still not retracted his bald-faced lie about Obama allegedly calling Israel a "sore." Now here's Mark Levin:
Obama made a point of not wearing the flag pin, knowing that a point would be made of it, just as he makes a point of not placing his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem.
Obama did not make a point of the flag pin. His opponents did. Obama simply did what millions of others did: express their patriotism more intensely after 9/11, and return to less demonstrative gestures thereafter. As for the National Anthem, here's Snopes.com. The evidence is that Obama has placed his hand on his heart during the national anthem and not, depending on the occasion, as is the modern custom. He has never "made a point" about it.
Sully: http://tinyurl.com/5u52o6
This is all the DMW has left. Lies. Even a conservative like Andrew Sullivan can see through the piles of BS.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:10 PM
Yglesias the Younger responds the Mr. Corn's post:
This business of Travis Childers winning an extremely Republican district on the heels of two other Democratic special election wins drives home how infuriating the idea of even having an extended "electability" argument about "who can win" is at this point. The reality is that given current conditions, either Clinton or Obama is very likely to win. That, I assume, is why Clinton is fighting so hard. There's no need to join David Corn in reaching for esoteric explanations, she's fighting hard for the prize of the nomination because it's a very good prize to have.
....The GOP brand is so terrible that it's dragging candidates down in solid red districts, and McCain is currently doing not-so-hot in polling matchups even though Americans are now inundated in unflattering information about Clinton and Obama while most people have never heard sustained from-the-left criticism of McCain.
MatthewY: http://tinyurl.com/6oqygv
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:14 PM
The benefits of the Edwards endorsement?
Here's 7:
1. 19 delegates added to Obama's column.
2. West Virginia? It wipes the story off the media rundowns.
3. The message to superdelegates: Edwards was content to let the race play out. Now, he's not. He wants this over. And you should too.
4. Edwards is identified within the party as the anti-poverty crusader, as the son of a mill-worker, as a friend of the forgotten white working class.
5. Edwards worried that Obama wasn't ready to be commander in chief; that he's found a reason to temper those concerns is a hint that others should do the same.
6. Michigan, Michigan, Michigan. Front page headlines, rapturous stories.
7. Obama seems happy -- really, genuinely happy.
Marc Ambinder: http://tinyurl.com/5u4pfp
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:22 PM
Pande...
thanx....
-T
Posted by: Hajji
| May 14, 2008 10:30 PM
A couple of more catches from Andrew Sullivan:
Hilzoy has another devastating post about the past career of one of Washington's more established lobbyists:
That was what Charlie Black was lobbying for: the support [Jonas] Savimbi needed to utterly destroy his country. Thanks to Black's skill as a lobbyist, and his apparent lack of a conscience, Savimbi got it.
This is John McCain's chief political advisor. Think about it.
Sully: http://tinyurl.com/3jaw35
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Then there's this piece of weirdness:
The Washington Times takes a stand:
Cindy McCain refuses to release her tax returns. This is not just a questionable political decision that threatens to haunt her husband's campaign for the next six months. It is also the wrong decision. Mrs. McCain needs to change her mind and release the returns as quickly as possible. How Republican John McCain, the presumptive presidential nominee who rightly fancies himself the king of transparency on Capitol Hill, and his campaign strategists can permit this open sore to fester is unimaginable.
Washtimes: http://tinyurl.com/546zw7
What does it mean for a conservative presidential candidate if the conservative Washington Times is taking potshots at your wife? Dead. Man. Walking.
Gramps is taking potshots from the left (us), the center (Barr and Sullivan) and the right (Rush, Malkin, the Dingbat bloggers). Things are going south quick and Obama has barely started to focus on him. Obama's in Michigan, eh?
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:34 PM
Hajji, What is it about the word "addicted?"
While discussing a friend of ours, my bro mentioned that our friend played video games excessively. I said, "yeah, he's addicted." After a long silence, he asked me "Just because he's a gamer, he's a dickH34d?"
And you're welcome.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| May 14, 2008 10:57 PM
WOW!
If the Rev Moon revokes their marriage, does he have to move back to the trailer-park with his EX?
-T
Posted by: Hajji
| May 14, 2008 11:01 PM
Dict-head... obsessively recording the words of others?
Posted by: Hajji
| May 14, 2008 11:04 PM
With no disrespect to Guam, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and any other block of Democratic Party primary or caucus voters who have or will vote to determine delegates to the convention in August, how can Hillary Rodham Clinton include those votes in non-state districts, territories or commonwealths in a "total popular vote won" argument for the Fall, when these voters are disenfranchised in the election for President?
As for the "57 states" comment of Barack Obama--maybe that was code to Teresa Heinz Kerry, John's wife: "I've sampled all 57 varieties of Heinz products. Now it is time for Hillary to play catch-up."
[Insert groan for bad pun here]
Posted by: Wahidiyya Kosmotikos
| May 15, 2008 6:58 AM
Maybe she is only in it for the gold?
Posted by: David B. Benson
| May 15, 2008 1:54 PM
Hillary’s Latest Argument: Nomination Can’t Be Decided Until ELIZABETH Edwards is Counted
Posted by: capt
| May 15, 2008 2:32 PM
Prehps she is just in it for the gold?
Posted by: David B. Benson
| May 15, 2008 3:09 PM
Wow, listening to BHO - good luck running against this guy.
There isn't a politician alive that can touch him.
For better or worse, he is a talented politician, speaker and orator.
Posted by Capt
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Egh, who needs Viagra when you've got Obama, eh Capt?
Posted by: LBH
| May 15, 2008 3:34 PM
Hajji, Pande, et al
I'm back after a long hiatus and (ahem) even sharper of wit than before. I have also enhanced my acumen in the political dept. by listening to conservative talk radio daily!
Did anyone miss me?
Posted by: Tim
| May 15, 2008 8:27 PM
So if this indeed her plan- does she really think that people will forget how she muddied the Candidate ? she really thinks she would be embraced after all that has gone on? She must think we have damaged memories....although I do think that she has some strategy afoot- other than hoping an act of God will remove Obama from her path...really good post....( my first time here)
Posted by: enigma4ever@watergate
| May 16, 2008 2:29 AM
This is my first time here, I have heard the 2012 plan on a few blogs, and I think it is odd, because will she really think that NO ONE will remember What she has done this campaign season , and how she has muddied a Candidate and the political landscape...people do not have memories that short. Great post...and to be honest I hope that is NOT her plan, but I do worry she has some strategy afoot, other than she is hoping for an Act of God to remove Obama from her path to the WH.
Posted by: enigma4ever@watergate
| May 16, 2008 2:33 AM
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