On Monday morning, John McCain traveled to Selma, Alabama, to give a speech about patriotism and courage--that is, to expropriate the patriotism and courage of a Barack Obama supporter.
Speaking at the site of a critical civil rights clash. McCain described in detail that turning point in America's history:
Forty-three years ago, an army of more than five hundred marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge; an army that brought with them no weapons, which intended no destruction; that sought to conquer no people or land.
He went on to cite, in much detail, the heroic actions of John Lewis, who led that protest and who today is a Democratic congressman supporting Obama:
At the head of the column, dressed in a dark suit, white shirt, tie and tan raincoat, marched a twenty-five year old son of Alabama sharecroppers, John Lewis. They had planned to march from Selma to Montgomery, but they knew they would never reach there. They had been warned they would be met with force, and at the crest of the bridge, they were. Until then, they had marched in silence, with dignity and resolve, men, women, children and old people. All was quiet, even the angry crowd that watched the marchers. But everything was alive with apprehension, with the expectation that something momentous and terrible was imminent.
On the other side of the bridge, row upon row of state troopers in blue uniforms and white helmets, many on horseback, prepared to charge and stop with violence the peaceful army, intent only on conquering injustice. John Lewis took the first blow, a baton thrust to the stomach that shoved him back on the marchers behind him. He took the second blow, too, a hard swung club to his head, leaving a permanent scar where it struck. Blood poured from the wound, darkening his raincoat. He tried to struggle to his feet, and then collapsed unconscious, his skull fractured.
McCain went on to note that millions of Americans "watched brave John Lewis fall." He referred to Lewis and his comrades as "the best kind of patriots." He quoted Lewis. ("When I care about something, I'm prepared to take the long, hard road.") He cited Lewis' adherence to Martin Luther King Jr.'s concept of the "beloved community."
All this was to make a political point for McCain: "I will be traveling to places in America that aren't enjoying the prosperity many other parts of America enjoy, but where people are walking a long, hard road to make sure that their children will know the opportunities that other American children possess." McCain noted he would listen to these Americans "and learn from them about what government is doing to help their efforts and what it does to hinder them."
But what about McCain's own ideas? He had nothing specific to say about what he would do to help these people. But he had more to say about Lewis:
In America, we have always believed that if the day was a disappointment, we would win tomorrow. That's what John Lewis believed when he marched across this bridge. That's what he still believes; what he still fights to achieve: a better country than the one he inherited.
It was as if McCain was trying to wrap himself in the bloody shirt of John Lewis. McCain, of course, was not part of the civil rights movement. In fact, in 1983, he was one of 77 Republican House members to vote against the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday. He has never been close to Lewis, according to an associate of Lewis. He did not tell Lewis he would be making this speech, and he did not invite Lewis to attend the event. Lewis learned about the speech from reporters. (And, as of this writing, Lewis has yet to comment on it.) Given Lewis' high-profile support of Obama, McCain's speech--which was far more about John Lewis than John McCain--was rather odd. After all, the "better country" that Lewis now fights for would be led by a President Obama.
Yet McCain dissed Obama:
Hope in America is not based in delusion, but in the faith that everything is possible in America. The time for pandering and false promises is over. It is time for action. It is time for change; the right kind of change; change that trusts in the strength of free people and free markets; change that doesn't return to policies that empower government to make our choices for us, but that works to ensure we have choices to make for ourselves.
That's hardly John Lewis' vision of America (let alone Obama's). By the way, the goal of Lewis' civil rights movement was to pass federal legislation to protect the rights of oppressed Americans--yes, to expand and empower government. So Selma is hardly the appropriate locale for McCain to be strutting his libertarian stuff.
Toward the end of his speech, McCain said,
I am here because it is a place where great Americans once fought to do just that, and I'm going to places where they are still fighting for change; to make us a better country. I am going to meet and learn from patriots.
Maybe he can learn a little history from them--and also learn that he ought to be selling his own exploits to bolster civil rights and social justice in the United States (if he has any), not exploiting those of others.
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DC,
I think McSame is saying he was there in spirit, he is old enough to already have a ghost . . .
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 1:39 PM
The truth about the war in Iraq.
http://tinyurl.com/3kxrxe
Posted by: Neil
| April 21, 2008 3:51 PM
How dare McLame USE Sen. John Lewis' life experiences on the one hand, but have the "audacity" to disrespect Obama for his affirmation of 'hope' in, and for, this country. With our federal government so broken (the processes don't work and there are absolutely no checks and balances left) and in such dire straits due to Repugs sense of entitlement, this country must wake up and be aware of the fact that if McSame is elected, we will have identical policies and processes employed by Bushco. We must stop McCain [and HRC] so that our country stands another chance of working in the democratic fashion our forefathers foresaw with the people being the deciders. The fact that McLame thinks he can use John Lewis' life to "fool us" into thinking he knows what life has been like for anyone in this country who is disadvantaged by skin color obviously does not know what he is talking about. What's wrong with using his own sorry life (telling the Viet Cong what they wanted to hear so he could come home) to get make his point? His own story could not even begin to compare to Sen. Lewis' - that's why. Shame on McSame; as financially rich as he is, he has to steal another Senator's life to vy for votes. Shame on him!
Posted by: ObamasLady
| April 21, 2008 3:55 PM
DC,
I guess John Lewis didn't get a chance to read your hit piece on McCain before issuing his statement. Or, maybe he has more class!
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John Lewis offers gracious response to McCain tribute
John Lewis's office has issued a statement responding to McCain's generous words for the Civil Rights icon and Georgia congressman.
Says Lewis:
"I am gratified that Sen. John McCain would take the opportunity to recognize what happened 43 years ago on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Bloody Sunday was a turning point in the struggle for voting rights and equal justice in America. President Lyndon Johnson was right when he compared what happened in Selma on March 7, 1965, to the crossroads this country faced at Appomattox, Lexington, and Concord. These seminal events cut to the core of American democracy. Their significance to all Americans is much bigger, much larger, and much more profound than partisan politics."
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 4:26 PM
Rep. John Lewis Responds to McCain Speech in Selma
This morning Sen. John McCain made a speech in Selma, Alabama where he acknowledged the courage of Rep. John Lewis and other participants in the Civil Rights Movement during the conflict on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Rep. Lewis had no advance knowledge of the nature or intentions of Sen. McCain’s remarks.
http://johnlewis.house.gov/
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McShame didn't even ask to use John Lewis' name, or the memory of him.
John Lewis' statement is not in support of McShame it condemns.
He called out McShame for belittling civil rights by injecting it into politics which is far less profound.
McShame will make a public apology to John Lewis or McShame is shameless.
As always, DC is on the ball and ahead of the rest.
Cracks me up when DC's talent and intelligence confuses the less bright readers. Of course excluding the first paragraft is a telling thing, eh?
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Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 5:58 PM
President Bush set an unwelcome record, scoring the highest disapproval rating — 69% — in the history of the Gallup Poll, which dates to Franklin Roosevelt's tenure. Bush's approval rating is 28%, matching the low point of his presidency.
Harry Truman still holds the record for the lowest approval rating, at 23%.
A record number of Americans, 63%, now say the invasion of Iraq was a mistake.
In the survey, Obama edges McCain 47%-44% among registered voters. Clinton beats McCain 50%-44%. Both leads are within the margin of error.
(USAToday)
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 6:04 PM
"Hero" John McCain as Phony and Collaborator: What Really Happened When He Was a POW?
[...]
“War is one thing, collaborating with the enemy is another; it is a legitimate campaign issue that strikes at the heart of McCain’s character. . .or lack thereof. In occupied countries like Iraq, or France in World War II, collaboration to that extent spells an automatic death sentence.. . .The question is: What kind of collaborator was John McCain, the admitted war criminal who will hate the Vietnamese for the rest of his life?
“Put it another way: how psychologically twisted is McCain? And what actually happened to him in his POW camp that twisted him? Was it abuse, as he claims, or was it the fact that he collaborated and has to cover up? Covering-up can take a lot of energy. The truth is lurking there in his subconscious, waiting to explode. ”
“McCain had a unique POW experience. Initially, he was taken to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp, where he was interrogated. By McCain’s own account, after three or four days he cracked. He promised his Vietnamese captors, “I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital ...
“His Vietnamese captors soon realized their POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line in the American military elite. . .The Vietnamese realized, this poor stooge has propaganda value. The admiral’s boy was used to special treatment, and his captors knew that. They were working him.”
“. . .two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him. It was not ‘name rank and serial number, or kill me’. as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, the number of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about the location of rescue ships.”
“…McCain was held for five and half years. The first two weeks’ behavior might have been pragmatism, but McCain soon became North Vietnam’s go-to collaborator…..McCain cooperated with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. His situation isn’t as innocuous as that of the French barber who cuts the hair of the German occupier. McCain was repaying his captors for their kindness and mercy.
“This is the lesson of McCain’s experience as a POW: a true politician, a hollow man, his only allegiance is to power. The Vietnamese, like McCain’s campaign contributors today, protected and promoted him, and, in return, he danced to their tune. . .”
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04192008.html
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A hero or zero?
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 6:11 PM
Why won't Obama answer questions?
Cancels debates, dodges questions, eats waffles
By Soren Dayton
A reporter asked Barack Obama today a question about Jimmy Carter's meeting with Hamas. Obama's response?
"Why can't I just eat my waffle?"
He also just canceled his appearance at a debate in North Carolina. He had been whining that the press finally asked him hard questions.
This reminds us of his handling of a bunch of questions about Rezko. His response?
"Guys, I mean come on. I just answered like eight questions."
Steve Huntley from the Chicago Sun-Times didn't think that was a fair description. Huntley wrote, "In fact, Obama dodged the questions."
Sounds like "dodg[ing] the questions" has become his MO. What's he so afraid of?
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 6:50 PM
Their significance to all Americans is much bigger, much larger, and much more profound than partisan politics.”
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This is calling out McCain? Like I said, John Lewis has more class in his pinky than you and Corn combined.
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 6:55 PM
A hero or zero?
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Pathetic!
That's a question that would fit you or Corn more than someone who has served his country.
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 6:58 PM
McCain Blasts Obama Over William Ayers
Sunday, April 20, 2008 11:12 PM
Sen. Barack Obama recently compared remarks by pro-life Republican Sen. Tom Coburn with Weather Underground terrorist bomber William Ayers. And he has outraged Sen. John McCain in the process.
Coburn has suggested that abortion is killing, and as such, abortionists could get the death penalty.
Ayers said that he regrets that he had not bombed more U.S. targets as a way to protest the Vietnam War.
When challenged about his association with Ayers during the debate with Sen. Hillary Clinton last week in Philadelphia, Obama sidestepped a question about Ayers, insisting that asking him about Ayers was the same as asking if he endorses Coburn's position. "Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements?" Obama asked, "Because I certainly don't agree with those, either."
Appearing on Sunday's ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," McCain said Obama's relationship with Ayers, "is open to question . . . Because if you're going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he's unrepentant, that he wished he'd bombed more — and then, the worst thing of all, that, I think, really indicates Senator Obama's attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn, Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life — comparing those two — I mean, that's an attitude, frankly, that certainly isn't in keeping with the overall attitude."
According to The New York Times, Ayers, a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, lives in Obama’s neighborhood and held an early organizing meeting when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate.
“He became friends with him and spent time with him while the guy was unrepentant over his activities as a member of a terrorist organization, the Weathermen,’’ McCain said, adding, “Does he condemn them? Would he condemn someone who says that they’re unrepentant and wished that they had bombed more?’’
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:00 PM
McShame made a political speech, not a civil rights speech.
The use of Lewis for partisan purposes is deplorable and classless.
Obviously those with little or no class can't see it.
Obviously.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:02 PM
Obama Struggles to Win White Vote in Rural Pa.
Monday, April 21, 2008 11:54 AM
Barack Obama's efforts to woo white voters in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary have been hurt by his comments on small town bitterness and his association with an outspoken pastor, some residents of Muncy Valley say.
Local people called the Illinois senator arrogant, unpatriotic and un-Christian after his remarks that residents of small towns in Pennsylvania and elsewhere are bitter because of job losses, and so have turned to traditions like guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiment.
"He is saying people are weak, dumb and naive, and they are seeking religion as a way of getting through," said Darwin Whitmoyer, 54, a white truck driver, at the gas station in this town of about 100 people 150 miles northwest of Philadelphia. "He didn't help himself."
While most black voters in Pennsylvania will back Obama in Tuesday's crucial presidential primary, only about 35 percent of whites have said they will vote for him, compared with the 53 percent of whites who say they will back Hillary Clinton, according to a Newsmax/Zogby poll published on Thursday.
Pennsylvania's population is about 85 percent white and 11 percent black, with most of the remainder Hispanic.
GUNS AND GOD
Whitmoyer said Obama's mention of guns as an emblem of rural culture was interpreted by local people as a sign that he will restrict their use if he becomes president.
"If he isn't for guns, he's against guns," Whitmoyer said. "He just cut his own throat with everyone who owns a gun."
Whitmoyer, who said he will probably vote for Clinton, also said he opposes Obama's support for gay rights, and is suspicious of his endorsement by TV host Oprah Winfrey.
"Anyone who walks with the true Christ is going to be against Obama," said Whitmoyer, whose license plate has the message 'I'm saved, Jesus is Lord!' He added: "Religion is going to hurt him."
Across the street at Steve's Saw Repair, owner Steve Peterman said he was offended by the remarks of Obama's black pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who said the September 11 attacks were payback for U.S. foreign policy and expressed anger at what he called racist America.
"I'm not racist, but if he would allow white people in that church, I don't think that stuff would have been said," said Peterman, who will probably vote for Republican nominee John McCain as "the lesser of three evils."
But Peterman, 51, agreed with Obama's assessment that local people are bitter about a lack of job opportunities in rural Sullivan County, which Peterman described as having "7,000 people and one red light."
"There's no work here," he said. "You have to drive 30 to 40 miles to find a job." He said U.S. companies should be penalized for outsourcing jobs overseas.
Sean Smith, a spokesman for Obama, said the senator has acknowledged that he "mangled" his comments about small-town Pennsylvanians, made during a closed-door session in San Francisco.
"He mangled the words, and he regrets offending anybody in the way that he said them," Smith said.
Smith declined to say whether the white rural vote represented the biggest challenge for Obama in Tuesday's primary. "We have an uphill climb here with a lot of voters," he said.
In the county seat of Laporte, Lara McNeil, 35, of nearby Lycoming County, said she was suspicious of any church that would allow a preacher such as Wright.
"I don't know what belief he is following but it doesn't sound like any church I know," she said.
Wright's sermon raised questions about Obama's patriotism in the mind of Robert Bressler, 74, a retired truck driver, having coffee in The Vale Family Restaurant in Muncy Valley.
"The guy demonized the U.S. and Obama still likes him." Bressler said. "We don't need him as president."
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:04 PM
What’s Younger Than McCain?
Polls indicate the American people are concerned about electing a 72-year-old President. So what’s younger than McCain? Many things indeed. Here’s proof from Younger than McCain dot com:
John McCain comes from another time, an old war-horse stuck in the past with an old-world view of things. Just for fun and to put into some perspective just how old McCain is, we started compiling lists of things that to most Americans seem really old, but they’re still younger than good ‘ole John McCain.
http://youngerthanmccain.com/
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Hint - McShame is older than pop-tops on cans - older than color TV, VCR's, CD's, DVD's, etc.
Too funny.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:06 PM
If we had know about Obamas Pastor and association with Willaim Ayers before the Iowa primary he would not have won and Clinton would have already rapped this up. No wonder Obama was hiding this stuff from the public.
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:06 PM
Fox: Few blacks attend McCain’s ‘Forgotten Americans’ kickoff.
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) begins “an effort to reach out to minorities and the poor this morning,” starting with a speech in Selma, AL. But Fox News’s Carl Cameron, who was at the speech, observed that the vast majority of the crowd was “white-middle class voters,” despite the event taking place in the nation’s Black Belt, “where there’s over 100 counties connected from here in Alabama all the way over to Georgia where African-Americans outnumber whites”:
But as you take a look at the shot, which is just off to my left here, you can see that the audience in large measure is white middle-class voters. The African-American poor folk of Selma, Alabama and around here haven’t turned out.
CNN reported last month that McCain was the subject of “a little bit of heckling” when he spoke to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Memphis to commemorate the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.
(Thinkprogress)
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Whoop's someone forgot the to invite all of McShame's black supporters. (Both of them)
HA!
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:09 PM
The ‘Forgotten Americans’ In McCain’s Own Back Yard
State Rep. Cloves C. Campbell, Jr. from Arizona
[...]
So, I’m glad Senator McCain is highlighting some of the neglected parts of our nation. But I have a suggestion for him. He needs to run the tour through his own backyard. If he wants this effort to be taken seriously, he has some work to do at home.
(wonkroom)
*****
Ouch, slapped down by a AZ native politician. That has to hurt.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:12 PM
Truth Vs. 'Trash Journalism': McCain's Weak Rebuttal to Damaging Allegations
[...]
Ok, how about the fact that in earshot of others I have hurled expletives at Senators Domenici, Cornyn and Grassely, called my wife an unspeakable term for a female body part and have physically assaulted another Senator (the late Strom Thurmond) and a congressman (Rep. Rick Renzi). Oh, that's right, that was also Senator McCain.
I just don't get where all the "outlandishness" and "hate" comes from on the McCain side. I am only a humble author trying to do my job, sharing facts that are 100% sourced. It's not like I included in my book the account of a former AP reporter who recounted to me seeing John McCain wander off into the Red Light District of Hanoi in 1996 when he was there to normalize relations with the Vietnamese. Or that it was known among reporters that he used to disappear into that part of town alone at night. I never said that in my book. And why would I? That would supposedly be "trash journalism."
Or let's just say that a few reporters told me that the McCains don't really live together anymore, and that until the presidential campaign Cindy McCain was spending much of her time in San Diego with their daughter Bridgette, because her husband was just not Johnny-on-the-spot anymore. I'd never report such an unfounded charge, if those few sources could not provide any more concrete details. The New York Times stoops that kind of reporting, but not me.
You see, Mr. McCain, I have purposely chosen to rise above any "outlandishness." And instead, I relied upon pure, 100% all-American (at least pre-Bush) facts. I would think a "straight-talker" like you would have at least a modicum of respect for my taking that tack.
*****
McAngry can't hide from his previous outbursts of rage. It is fair to consider the temper and temperment of our candidates. McAngry doesn't have the right stuff.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:16 PM
McCain Flip-Flops In 30 Seconds: Hagee Endorsement A ‘Mistake,’ But ‘I’m Glad To Have’ It
Last February, hard-line conservative evangelical Pastor John Hagee endorsed Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) candidacy for president. Despite Hagee’s history of controversial and bigoted comments –- such as calling Catholicism “The Great Whore” and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gays –- McCain said he was “very honored” to receive the endorsement, one which he also reportedly sought.
McCain has since both “repudiate[d]” and defended Hagee’s intolerant remarks. But McCain’s double-talk on Hagee went a step further yesterday on ABC’s This Week when he seemed a bit confused as to whether or not he still accepts Hagee’s endorsement –- first agreeing that it was a “mistake” to accept it, but less than 30 seconds later saying he is “glad” to have it:
STEPHANOPOULOS: So was it a mistake to solicit and accept his endorsement?
MCCAIN: Oh, probably, sure. […]
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you no longer want his endorsement?
MCCAIN: I’m glad to have his endorsement. I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything. And thanks for asking.
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It is all about consistency - predictability if you will. McShame doesn't have it.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:17 PM
Indeed, McCain has been confused quite a bit lately on a wide range of issues:
– McCain has said waterboarding “should never be condoned in the U.S.” but voted against a bill banning the CIA from using torture, specifically including waterboarding.
– McCain says he is “a consistent supporter of educational benefits” for the military but has indicated he will not support the bipartisan 21st Century GI Bill.
– On at least three occasions, McCain baselessly claimed Iran is training Al Qaeda in Iraq but argued the error was an isolated slip of the tongue.
– McCain falsely suggested that Al-Qaeda in Iraq is a “sect of Shi’ites.”
– McCain falsely claimed Moktada al-Sadr “declared the cease-fire” after recent fighting in Basra and has said he is both a “major player” in Iraq and that his influence “has been on the wane for a long time.”
– Economists and nonpartisan analysts have said recently that the numbers is McCain’s economic plan simply “don’t add up.”
– McCain has made the elimination of earmarks a cornerstone of his presidential campaign but he can’t name any he would eliminate.
– In a matter of one day, McCain said Americans are both “better off” and “not better off” than they were before President Bush took office.
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The guy is an walking ad for age related dementia.
The GOPhers are right to lack any enthusiasm to back grandpa - he is losing it - my friends. . .
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:20 PM
Hint - McShame is older than pop-tops on cans - older than color TV, VCR's, CD's, DVD's, etc.
Too funny.
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Aren't you also?
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:22 PM
Bob Kerrey defends McCain on temper
Former Dem. Sen. Bob Kerrey is taking up for John McCain, disputing a detail of a major story focusing on his former colleague's temper and saying McCain's "anger always has a purpose."
In a comment under my blog post last night noting McCain aide Mark Salter's aggressive rebuttal to a lengthy front-page Washington Post story examining the candidate's temper, Kerrey clarified his role in and explained the circumstances around the anecdote the paper used to lead its piece.
McCain and Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley got into such a furious argument in a closed-door meeting in 1992, Post reporter Michael Leahy wrote, that Kerrey had to step in and prevent fisticuffs.
Not so says Kerrey, the former Nebraska senator and president of New York's New School.
"First, I did nothing to intervene; the two Senators worked it out on their own," Kerrey wrote in a comment posted this morning under his name at 7:45. "Second, the subject of the debate - the status of Americans held as prisoner in Vietnam - was one that always provoked violent, ugly debates."
The two senators were both "extremely angry," Kerrey adds, but McCain was "at no time threatening."
Kerrey, a Democrat and Hillary Clinton backer, concludes: "My experience is that [McCain's] anger always has a purpose and in this case the purpose was to defeat Senator Grassley's argument which he did decisively."
Before Kerrey retired, he and McCain were part of a small, tight-knit group of Vietnam veterans in the Senate. Kerrey had McCain give the commencement address at the New School in 2006.
A spokesman for Kerrey confirmed that the comment was left by the former senator himself.
It's posted in its entirety after the jump.
Since I was mentioned in the Post story I can offer my account of the McCain-Grassley argument. First, I did nothing to intervene; the two Senators worked it out on their own. Second, the subject of the debate - the status of Americans held as prisoner in Vietnam - was one that always provoked violent, ugly debates. The precise point of disagreement between the Senators was over a man name Robert Garwood. Senator Grassley believed he was a hero whose reputation was destroyed by the Defense Intelligence Agency. Senator McCain believed him to a traitor who caused prisoners (like Senator McCain) to receive additional encounters with torture. Both Senators were extremely angry. Senator McCain was explosive (who wouldn't be?) but at no time threatening. Most important: McCain won the argument. My experience is that his anger always has a purpose and in this case the purpose was to defeat Senator Grassley's argument which he did decisively.
Posted By: Bob Kerrey | April 21, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:27 PM
Hint - Obummer is older than Bart Simpson (barely), My Space, Liberal hate web sites, Britney Spears, plasma TVs, Hummers, Kid Rock (maybe), etc...
He's not older than failed liberal policies that have never stood the test of time.
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:33 PM
John McCain's Temper Preceded Vietnam
[...]
A July 5 NewsMax.com article quoted former Sen. Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican who served with McCain on the Senate Armed Services Committee, as saying, "I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues . . . He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior. We've all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I've never seen anyone act like that."
McCain's outbursts often erupted when other members rebuffed his requests for support during his bid in 2000 for the Republican nomination for president, the story said. "People who disagree with him get the ‘f*** you,'" said former Rep. John LeBoutillier, a New York Republican who had an encounter with McCain when he was on a POW task force in the House.
"He had very few friends in the Senate," said former Sen. Smith, who dealt with McCain almost daily. "He has a lot of support around the country, but I don't think he has a lot of support from people who know him well."
An Aug. 2 NewsMax story quoted Andrew H. "Andy" Card Jr., President Bush's former chief of staff, as saying he also has observed McCain's outbursts of anger. "Sometimes he was pretty angry, but I felt as if he was putting on a show," Card said. "I don't know if it was an emotional eruption or it was for effect."
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Temper, temper, temper
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:35 PM
You must be using Old Poll results:
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (McCain leads both Obama & Hillary 48% to 43%)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | April 21, 2008 | Scott Rasmussen
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain leading both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton by an identical margin of 48% to 43%. While the topline results are the same, there are important differences in the way those results are obtained. Clinton does better among Democrats than Obama while Obama does better among unaffiliated voters. Among those not affiliated with either major party, McCain leads Obama by five and Clinton by sixteen. Daily tracking results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time (see recent daily general election results).
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:36 PM
A peek inside the media's peek inside John McCain's temper
[...]
The Washington Post on Sunday was only the latest of major media outlets to examine the issue of...
Sen. John McCain's temper, which emerges in the national news every time he does. The legitimate issue, of course, is, would his judgment as commander in chief be clouded by fury at a key time?
The lengthy Post story by Michael Leahy, which is likely to prompt stories by other news outlets, many drawing on the Post's material, cited numerous alleged examples of the Arizonan's outbursts, some recycled, occurring in the 1980s and 1990s.
McCain, who did not talk to Leahy, has often admitted his temper in books and speeches and is said to have realized the costs of it during the 2000 primaries and to have toned it down.
After studying the damning article, Ramesh Ponnuru, one of the writers on the widely-read The Corner blog on NationalReview.com, wrote a brief item at 1:24 p.m., saying the article might give McCain supporters "pause," even if they eventually stuck with the senator for the general election come Nov. 4.
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I'm sure McShame is no worse than "F**K You" Cheney but really we don't need a hot head in the WH, not is these times.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:38 PM
Will McCain's Temper Be a Liability?
McCain Works to Bury Hatchet With Those on Receiving End of His Temper
Temper, temper.
Republican John McCain is known for his.
Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters after a town hall meeting in Oshkosh, Wis., Friday, Feb. 15, 2008. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)He's been dubbed "Senator Hothead" by more than one publication, but he's also had some success extracting his hatchet from several foreheads.
Even his Republican Senate colleagues are not spared his sharp tongue.
"F--- you," he shouted at Texas Sen. John Cornyn last year.
"Only an a------ would put together a budget like this," he told the former Budget Committee chairman, Sen. Pete Domenici, in 1999.
"I'm calling you a f------ jerk!" he once retorted to Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley.
With Cornyn, he smoothed things over quickly. The two argued during a meeting on immigration legislation; Cornyn complained that McCain seemed to parachute in during the final stages of negotiations. "F--- you. I know more about this than anyone else in the room," McCain reportedly shouted.
Cornyn chuckled at the memory of what he called McCain's "aggressive expressions of differences." The Texan has endorsed McCain.
"He almost immediately apologized to me," Cornyn said last week. "I accepted his apology, and as far as I'm concerned, we've moved on down the road."
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Apologies are good and necessary on a personal level but one need temperment to effect diplomacy.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:40 PM
Temper, temper, temper
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I would say that Obama has displayed more of a temper than McCain has the entire race.
1. Obama was pissed that the press asked him like 8 questions about Rezco.
2. Obama was pissed that press played hate speech of his pastor over and over instead of hiding it until after election.
3. Obama was pissed that George and Charlie aske d him tough questions that he couldn't answer and made him look bad.
4. Obama whined for day's about the tough treatment by ABC.
5. Obama cancels NC debate cuz he's pissed about losing PA debate to Hillary.
My, my, oh my. As Pandonial woulsd say what a child!!!!
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:41 PM
Bob Dole Admits John McCain Has A Temper
Former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole said Wednesday night that current White House hopeful John McCain has a temper -- but added the Arizona senator "can control it."
Dole told CNN's Larry King that his former Senate colleague "does have a... I guess you could say temper. But I always sort of rationalized that because the poor guy had been locked up" in a tiny cell for six years. But McCain, he said, "can control it. It's not a problem anymore."
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Sure - McSame has "fixed" a personality defect and his PTSD.
Now all he has to do is prove it.
America deserves the best not the most angry and unreasonable.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:42 PM
McCain's Medical Records: Why the Delay?
The mainstream media ask Obama why he doesn't wear a flag pin, but they aren't asking McCain why he doesn't release his medical records. McCain, who would be the oldest man ever elected president, had surgery for melanoma, a potentially fatal skin cancer, eight years ago -- the scar is still prominent on his face. He has promised several times to release the records, but each release has been postponed.
It makes you wonder: is there something in McCain's medical records that he doesn't want you to know?
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The cat is out of the bag, He is too old. He has health problems as a result of advanced age. Simple as that.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:46 PM
*** Just In****
Obama admits that he will get his ass kicked tomorrow in PA!
Those bitter white men just won't vote for a snob elist.
Posted by: LBH
| April 21, 2008 7:47 PM
DC, I guess John Lewis didn't get a chance to read your hit piece on McCain before issuing his statement. Or, maybe he has more class!
Posted by: LBH | April 21, 2008 4:26 PM
McCain is absolutely “class act” if a “class act” is someone who calls his wife a CUNT and a TROLLUP...
…John McCain is the kind of straight-talker who lets his wife know how he really feels, describing her as a "cunt" and a "trollop" when he's displeased. What do you think the age cutoff is below which it becomes utterly implausible that someone would use the term "trollop" in a non-ironic context?
http://tinyurl.com/4odul4
Posted by: Neil
| April 21, 2008 7:50 PM
Many have thought that McCain might have developed his out-of-control temper while a POW. But as described in his military records, McCain's anger pre-dated his captivity.
McCain has alternately denied he is given to angry outbursts and has admitted he struggles to control his anger. On Oct. 31, 1999, for example, The Associated Press quoted him as saying, "Do I insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that? No, I don't." But in his 2002 memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain said, "I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public's."
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So he admits his temper does not serve the interest of the public but he wants to be president?
Done deal. He just disqualified himself in his own words.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 7:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW0m2nWB_M
Clinton and McCain are all about the fear. Barack is about hope. That used to matter to the Clintons.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 8:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCAqm286eAM
KSAZ: McCain Temper Flairs Up Against GOP Senator
Whoop's - even Faux nails him. HA!
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 8:15 PM
Cokie Roberts: "The temperament thing will keep coming up because there are lots of people with stories. But as he says, they're old stories. ... But age is an issue, and voters are saying it."
Sam Donaldson: "We all have these moments. I have these moments. So you can't be too harsh on John McCain for this one. But in your program, just a few minutes ago, he was quoting about Senator Obama about raising or lowering taxes. He meant to say below $200,000. He said above $200,000. Everybody misspeaks but people catch that and they pick up on that. That's one of the problems he's going to have to face" (ABC, 4/20).
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Now Cokie and Sam?
Poor McSame, he can win for losing.
Posted by: capt
| April 21, 2008 8:39 PM
Abrams responds to letter from Karl Rove
Former Bush strategist criticized MSNBC host's coverage of ex-governor
By Dan Abrams
Host, 'Verdict with Dan Abrams'
updated 5:21 p.m. ET, Mon., April. 21, 2008
April 21, 2008 - Below is a letter Dan Abrams wrote in response to a letter he received from Karl Rove regarding Verdict's coverage of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman's legal case.
Dear Mr. Rove:
I write in response to your letter about my coverage of the Siegelman case — a case we have been covering extensively. Its potential significance to the American justice system extends well beyond the halls of the Alabama Statehouse.
Your letter poses questions that you believe I should have asked as part of our coverage, but many of the most significant ones only you can answer. I address your specific critique below, but I begin by wondering, based on many of your questions, whether you actually saw, or reviewed, all of our coverage. Or perhaps, as you put it, “you don’t want the facts to get in the way of a good fable.”
You accuse me of “diminishing the search for facts and evidence,” yet thus far you have refused to answer any questions under oath or even from me that would aid in that very search.
In that respect, I want to be very clear that we repeatedly sought, through your lawyer, your presence on my program to respond to allegations made about you. I repeated that invitation on the air last week. I repeat it again by this letter.
In your letter, you ask, “Does it bother you, as your coverage asserts, as Governor Siegelman summarized it in his April 7th appearance on your program, that he is the victim of a vast conspiracy involving two US Attorneys, the Alabama Attorney General, unnamed career officials in the Public Integrity Unit at the U.S. Justice Department, unnamed higher ups in the Justice Department, and, oh yes, Karl Rove and that there is not a single piece of paper, not a single email, not a single conversation, not a single disgruntled career employee who’s come forward, not one credible witness to the workings of a conspiracy?”
First, my coverage never “asserted” that Governor Siegelman is “the victim of a vast conspiracy,” or even that he is necessarily innocent. I do not, and did not, feel comfortable passing judgment on that ultimate question. I repeatedly stated that on the air. Reading your letter, one would falsely presume that I have blindly accepted all of his claims at face value.
This is a prosecution, however, that led over 50 former Attorneys General from around the nation- Democrats and Republicans- to express their concern to Congress about the basic fairness of the case. I share many of those concerns. I too have serious questions about the way the case was handled. Given that, is it your contention that it’s journalistically unsound to allow the former Governor of the state of Alabama to even state his position on the air?
Or would you expect a responsible journalist to say something like this to the Governor: “Anyone looking at the record would say, ‘wait a second, you were convicted by a jury of seven counts.’ This is, you know, a jury of 12 ordinary folks who looked at the evidence with regard to bribery, conspiracy, mail fraud and said, ‘Governor Siegelman is guilty.’ ” That I did in my interview with Governor Siegelman on April 7, 2008.
And would you expect a good journalist to seek out and read the denial from Karl Rove’s attorney? That I did as well.
And maybe even to have said, “Governor, it sounds like you are alleging corruption on so many different levels. I mean—I think some people can accept the notion that, you know, there are certain Republicans who are out to get you, etc., but as we talk more about this, there are more people involved and it sounds like you’re saying that the corruption here was pretty deep?” I also did that. But maybe my questions do not fit with, as you put it, your “pre-selected” story line?
My “pre-selected story line” was not pre-selected at all. It was my considered conclusion – and my only conclusion — after assessing a number of troubling aspects about the case and the prosecution of it, that the Federal Court of Appeals in Atlanta should order the release of the former Governor pending his appeal. The appeals court did just that over the objection of the trial judge. The appellate judges cited “substantial questions of law and fact.”
I too have substantial questions of law and fact about the case and some of them involve you.
You seem particularly incensed that I interviewed Dana Jill Simpson, a Republican who had volunteered for the campaign of Siegelman’s opponent and claimed, in sworn testimony, that she heard conversations about you and your involvement.
You ask why only later did she claim that you asked her to follow the Governor to attempt to take compromising photos. Specifically, you wrote, “Did it not bother you Ms. Simpson failed to mention the claim she made to CBS for their February 24, 2008 story, that you then repeated on February 25th?”
Fair question. Which is why I asked her the following on February 25, 2008:
ABRAMS: And why have you never mentioned before the allegations of Rove and the pictures?
SIMPSON: Oh, I mentioned it to people. They just did not use it. Because nobody wanted to go into the fact that I had been following Don Siegelman trying to get pictures of him cheating on his wife.
ABRAMS: But some of your critics have said, “You know, in front of Congress she had a lot of opportunities. Why didn’t she mention this before?”
SIMPSON: Well, let me explain something to you. I talked to congressional investigators, Dan. And when I talked to those congressional investigators I told them that I had followed Don Siegelman and tried to get pictures of him cheating on his wife. However, they suggested to me that that was not relevant because there was nothing illegal about that and they’d just prefer that not come up at the hearing that day.
We repeatedly offered your attorney a chance to rebut the claims. Dana Jill Simpson testified under oath about this case while thus far you have refused to do so. If she is lying, she should be prosecuted. But as a journalist isn’t it fair to ask why you don’t welcome the opportunity to testify as well? With sworn false testimony, there are repercussions. Without it, there is no accountability.
You ask, “do you feel you have a responsibility to dig into the claims made by your guests. . .” Anyone who actually saw or even read the transcript of my coverage would have seen that I asked the Governor a whole series of pointed questions including this one: “You’re not hinging this all, though, on Dana Jill Simpson are you? Because there have been a lot of people who have questioned how she could have been at certain meetings, how many times she actually met with people, where she was at the time, etc. I mean your allegations that Rove- you believe Rove is behind this does not hinge entirely on the credibility of Dana Jill Simpson?” I also asked his daughter a similar question in a separate interview on February 27, 2008.
But many of their answers come back to you – to your relationships with various Alabama officials, to the timing of the prosecution, to why new charges were filed after the first ones were dismissed. It seems that since they have not provided definitive documentary evidence to prove their contentions, many of which involve what they say they witnessed, heard or experienced, you think either I should not have interviewed them on air or dismissed their allegations out of hand.
In the end, the real answer to those questions can only come from a congressional investigation and an under-oath statement, not from some decision by me. In that respect, I am aware that you have been requested by the House Judiciary Committee to testify about these issues. You can be sure that I will report fairly and in detail whatever is said before that committee—particularly if you appear before it.
In the wake of the U.S. Attorney controversy and all of the questions surrounding this case, it is more than fair to ask—in fact I would say its my journalistic duty to ask – whether Karl Rove had any role in instigating the prosecution of a prominent Alabama Democrat given that you knew many of the players, and in a state where you had significant political connections. With that in mind, and in light of our seemingly shared desire to mine for the truth, I would invite you to answer some crucial questions about this case on my program or in a written response:
You say you “certainly didn’t meet with anyone at the Justice Department or either of the two U.S. attorneys in Alabama about investigating or indicting Siegelman.” Did you talk to, or otherwise communicate with, any of them about it even if you did not meet? Did you have any discussions with any of them about this topic?
What about your old friend Bill Canary, whose wife initially led the prosecution? Are you denying that you spoke with him about anything related to the case?
You worked for former Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor. Did you ever talk to him about anything related to the Siegelman matter?
Did you ever ask anyone else to communicate with any official in the Justice Department about the Siegelman investigation or case?
Do you know why your lawyer told us that you would testify about this case if you were subpoenaed but now, after you have been invited to do so, he states that there are issues of executive privilege: “Whether, when and about what a former White House official will testify ... is not for me or my client to decide” he said.
You have said you never spoke with the White House about the case. If true, what is the possible “executive privilege?”
You ask why I did not further question one of my guests when he discussed your effort to help now Governor Riley in his campaign. Did you consult in any way with Riley or anyone else working with him on the campaign?
Did you ever discuss, with anyone, the possibility of media leaks about the Siegelman case? Did you speak with any members of the media about Siegelman during his campaign?
Rather than continuing a spin campaign against the media and me, I hope you join me in attempting to restore faith in a hallmark of this nation; our apolitical Department of Justice now understandably and regrettably enveloped in a cloud of suspicion.
Sincerely,
Dan Abrams
Posted by: Neil
| April 21, 2008 10:01 PM
What's funnier than the Monday Night Funnies? LBH cutting and pasting a story proving that Gramps McBush is a cranky old fart. Even Kerrey says Gramps is a foultempered old grump (but in a DMW kinda way). That's some finely tuned snark! Onto the funnies:
"The White House held a big dinner tonight honoring the pope, but the pope chose not to attend. He didn't attend the dinner. I think President Bush was a little hurt. In fact, he said today, 'You know, after the trouble we went through to prepare a kosher meal."
--Jay Leno
"Actually, one really embarrassing moment, you see this on the news? When the pope blessed the crowd with holy water? Well, some of it splashed on Dick Cheney, burned his skin."
--Jay Leno
"And today, John McCain said he disagrees with President Bush on the issue of climate change. And believe me, McCain knows what he's talking about on this subject. Of all the presidential candidates, he is the only one who's actually lived through an ice age."
--Jay Leno
"Actually, I think President Bush starting to change his opinion on global warming. Today, he announced an initiative to combat global warming. Again, I don't think he really understands the issue. He says his first act would be to order the Department of Energy to start drilling for solar power."
--Jay Leno
"According to a survey by the History Network, 98% of professional historians believe that George W. Bush's presidency has been a failure. The other 2% believe it was a total disaster. So, you could go either way."
--Jay Leno
"The pope is in the United States. Flew in to Washington, DC. Hillary Clinton declined to meet pope at the airport. You know, she was worried about sniper fire."
--David Letterman
"And coincidentally, today is the pope's 81st birthday. Isn't that remarkable? 81st birthday, yeah. President Bush greeted the pope, and he knew it was his birthday, so he gave him a gift card to Big and Tall Hats."
--David Letterman
STEPHEN COLBERT: Before we begin, I need to clear the air. Last night, I had Michelle Obama on the show, and I said this
ON SCREEN: Colbert telling M. Obama she would be Jackie O. if she were to become First Lady.
COLBERT: And I stand by that statement. But in the interest of being fair and balanced, I think Cindy McCain would also make an excellent Jackie O. And so would Bill Clinton. As long as Chanel comes in plus size.
JON STEWART: Today, the pope headed to the White House for what was actually the largest White House event in history. It was great. ... the pope wrapped it up and quickly received some thoughtful feedback from President Bush
ON SCREEN: Pres. Bush telling the pope he gave an "awesome speech".
STEWART: I gotta to tell you, bro. That sh*t was tight. You totally crushed it, dude
"It was a huge, huge, big deal. Although I don't think President Bush is too familiar with the Catholic religion. There was one awkward moment when President Bush kept looking behind the pope going, 'So, where's Mrs. Pope?'"
--Jay Leno
"President Bush also told the pope that he has prayed every single day since he became president. Hey, since Bush became president, we've all prayed every single day."
--Jay Leno
"We also want to wish Pope Benedict a happy birthday. Tomorrow, he'll be 81 years old. The pontiff, 81 years old. Do you realize in a couple more years, he could be the next Republican nominee?"
--Jay Leno
"The president picked up the pope at the airport. How bored is our president? He's not the president anymore. Now he's like your college stoner roommate, doing favors for pizza. Next week I think he's helping Putin move."
--Jon Stewart
"Barack Obama got himself into a little hot water in Pennsylvania, when he said small town people become bitter, and cling to guns or religion because of economic problems. Well, sure, you pray your house doesn't repossess, and when they take it, you pull out your gun. Makes perfect sense."
--Jay Leno
Jon Stewart: So what is the drink of choice for this hard scrabble Archie Bunker-type?
ON SCREEN: Clinton requesting Crown Royal whiskey].
STEWART: Yes. Nothing says blue collar like whiskey in a velvet pouch. You know it's the only alcohol with both crown and royal in the name. Got a word to fanciness ratio of 1-to-1. Bar keep, your gayest whiskey, please. I've had a heck of a day in the mines. By the way, when you finish the bottle of Crown Royal, you can still use the pouch to hold your broken dreams.
"Did you all see that? She took the shot with the beer chaser. Did it like an old pro. To give you an idea how much she drank, when the phone rang at 3 am, slept right through it."
--Jay Leno
"According to the latest Gallup poll, Barack Obama has the largest lead of the year so far over Hillary. He's up by 11%. Yeah. You thought Hillary was drinking before. Well, now she's really knocking 'em back."
--Jay Leno
"And, of course, Hillary Clinton continuing to attack Barack Obama. Hillary says Barack is an elitist who thinks he's smarter than most people. Is that a bad thing? Wouldn't it be nice for a change to have a president that's actually smarter than most people? Shouldn't that be one of the qualifications for the job? That you're actually smarter than most people?"
--Jay Leno
"You know, I hear what you're all saying, but doesn't elite mean good? Is that not something we're looking for in a president anymore? You know what, candidates? Come with me. I know elite is a bad word in politics. You want to go bowling and throw back a few beers. But the job you're applying for, if you get it and it goes well, they might carve your head into a mountain. If you don't actually think you're better than us, then what the f*ck are you doing?"
--Jon Stewart
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| April 21, 2008 10:23 PM
Some tuber-humor.... Youtube's Ba-Rocky
http://tinyurl.com/4vtwbl
And for all the haters in the hizz, Barack mindin' his bizz, dusting himself off, as Jay-Z sez, gotta brush that dirt off ya' shoulders:
http://tinyurl.com/6g7prf
Watching him laugh off the criticism, laugh off the attacks, laugh off the haters, the losers and the liars is a blast.
HRC had a 20 point lead in PA and is about to squeak one out. She'll get crushed next week. No need for a debate. She's too broke to pay attention. She's gotta pony up or go for public financing like Gramps to get into the debate.
Gramps better get hisself a 20 point lead or he will be facing Obama-nation.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| April 21, 2008 10:43 PM
What's funnier than the Monday Night Funnies?
Nuttin funnier!
Love it.
Posted by: capt
| April 22, 2008 6:16 AM
John McCain: On 100% Navy disability pension but fit enough for White House?
Last summer, amid staff disarray and fractured finances, most people wrote off the presidential hopes of Arizona Rep. Sen. John McCain. The 71-year-old pointed out he had recently hiked the Grand Canyon with a son and vowed to "out-campaign" them all.
He did just that. Now he is the presumptive GOP nominee. And as such he released his 2007 income taxes last Friday. Disclosed separately was pension income of $58,358 that went untaxed.
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Typical politician, an extra $60k a year because he is unable to make a living, eh?
Nothing better than government welfare and living off our tax dollars.
No reason not to take the extra cash, he isn't rich or anything, eh?
Posted by: capt
| April 22, 2008 6:46 AM
(I think this is important) -- Michael Moore endorses Obama
Fresh off the wires today, filmmaker Michael Moore is endorsing Barack Obama for president:
I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"
But no, Obama won't throw that at her. It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be decent. She's been through enough hurt. And so he remains silent and takes the mud she throws in his face.
That's why the crowds who come to see him are so large. That's why he'll take us down a more decent path. That's why I would vote for him if Michigan were allowed to have an election.
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I don't care what anyone says -- in the primaries, this will help him, if anything.
Posted by: bacaangel
| April 22, 2008 9:02 AM
I think this is important) -- Michael Moore endorses Obama
Fresh off the wires today, filmmaker Michael Moore is endorsing Barack Obama for president:
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I agree, it is important and BHO has risen above. Cracks me up to read some folks think he has gone negative.
HA!
Posted by: capt
| April 22, 2008 10:41 AM
Like I said yesterday, John McCain is the stupid in Bush on steroids. He sits on a board with Obama (The US Senate), has bombed in the past (confessed War Criminal in Vietnam), shows no remorse, has bombed again and supports War Crimes (Iraq) and would do it all again(Bomb, Bomb Iran)
Every word he speaks is a contradiction.
David Corn's remarks above are very eloquent. When I heard the radio clip on Monday that McCain was on the Bridge lauding John Lewis my remarks were not publishable, even with blanks, underscores and asterisks.
And then I threw up a little in my mouth.
baccaangel - I don't think Obama needs to throw the Rev Wright at Hillary. I do think that the M$M needs to do an objective profile on the Rev. so people can see more of who he is than the 20 seconds that Sean Hammity and Bill O'Really have given us.
Posted by: geof01
| April 22, 2008 10:50 AM
Two offers from 60 Minutes, "repeated" invitations from Abrams, and one from Conyers. Yet Rove still won't appear before a antagonistic interviewer.
As Abrams says, the ball is, and has been, in Rove's court.
-60 Minutes contacted Rove--who denied through Luskin Simpson's allegations
-60 Minutes contacted Rove for the follow-up--Rove said he never talked to DOJ about Siegelman, nor anyone at the White House about him
-Rove spoke to GQ--complaining in much the same way he did about Abrams
-Abrams says he "repeatedly" invited Rove to appear on his program
-Abrams invited Rove, through Luskin, after Siegelman left prison (Luskin said "sure," Rove would testify)
-John Conyers invited Rove to testify before HJC (Luskin backed off his earlier claim, explaining Rove might be prevented from testifying by executive privilege)
-With this letter, Abrams invited Rove once more to appear and answer questions
Posted by: Neil
| April 22, 2008 11:04 AM
I wonder where McSame was on that date (when John Lewis was there on the bridge)? He wasn't a POW yet and I wonder if he ever marched in any pro-civil rights march? Did he ever do or say anythinig that supported the civil rights movement since I am sure he is being sincere.
What a crass opportunist to play this kind of a game, trying to get black votes. Partrisan political theater using any memory of the clubbing, water hoses, attack dogs, racial smears and insults is not right, hell it isn't even wrong.
Posted by: capt
| April 22, 2008 12:06 PM
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