McCain to Elizabeth Edwards: I Got Nothing For You

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On Tuesday, John McCain's silly-named "Call to Action" tour hit health-care-land, and he traveled to Tampa to tout his Bush-like health care proposal. At the center of his plan is a proposal to provide tax credits to individuals ($2500) and families ($5000) that they can use to buy insurance.

A few weeks ago, Elizabeth Edwards blasted McCain's plan for not covering preexisting conditions, including illnesses experienced by Edwards (breast cancer) and McCain himself (melanoma). McCain, in his remarks on Tuesday, tried to address Edwards' criticism:

Critics argue that when my proposed tax credit becomes available it would encourage people to purchase health insurance on the current individual market, while significant weaknesses in the market remain. They worry that Americans with preexisting conditions could still be denied insurance. Congress took the important step of providing some protection against the exclusion of preexisting conditions in the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act in 1996. I supported that legislation, and nothing in my reforms will change the fact that if you remain employed and insured you will build protection against the cost of treating any preexisting condition. Even so, those without prior group coverage and those with preexisting conditions do have the most difficulty on the individual market, and we need to make sure they get the high-quality coverage they need. I will work tirelessly to address the problem. But I won't create another entitlement program that Washington will let get out of control. Nor will I saddle states with another unfunded mandate.

Translation: Edwards is right, and I now have no concrete proposal for addressing her criticism. Folks with preexisting conditions are just going to have to tough it out while McCain works "tirelessly."

What I'm curious about is how far those tax credits will go in helping individuals and families obtain decent coverage. Democrats routinely slam this level of assistance as insufficient. And that's what you'd expect them to say. What about a less partisan source? In February, on The Health Care Blog, Robert Laszweski, the president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates and former top executive at Liberty Mutual Insurance Company took a look at McCain's plan, and here's what he wrote about the tax credits:

The real question is, will McCain's plan give you enough to buy health insurance? With the average cost of employer-provided family health insurance at $12,000 a year a $5,000 tax credit will often come up way short--especially for higher age people and those who don't have the benefit of an employer contribution. High deductibles and [Health Savings Account] plans will help but families who don't have employer contributions should be prepared to pay at least a few thousand extra dollars.
He calls for the states to develop a "risk adjustment" bonus for high cost and low-income families to supplement tax credits and Medicaid funds. But just who will pay for this (the states alone?) and how it would close the cost gap is not explained....How will he deal with age rating, medical underwriting, and preexisting conditions? If McCain does not develop an individual health insurance market everyone can access, no matter how old they are or how sick they are, his scheme will fall way short.

In other words, no. McCain's plan offers too little for too many. So if your budget is tight or you've already been smacked by a bad disease, McCain's Call to Action tour will pass you by.

    Comments

  1. Of course McShame has no real response, yet the M$M will just let it pass. Just as he did with regard to Hagee and Parsley - McShame said "I don't agree with anything they say that is anti-anything - thanks for asking" - no follow-up. Is that an answer?

    Keep up the good work.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 11:45 AM

  2. Corn, you don't know what your talking about~ must be that liberal elitism.

    The majority of uninsured in this country is the self employed. I pay about $9000 a year for a family with $20 co-payments. Right now thats $9000 a year out of my pocket. I would gladly accept a $5000 tax credit.

    Get a clue and do some research next time you want to make a point about us bitter folks!!!!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 12:09 PM

  3. Insurance Corporations, Medical supply Corporations, Medical CARE Corporations, Pharmaceutical Corporations, Energy Corporations, etc, etc, et al.

    These are the "AMERICANS" that Repugnicons speak for AND work for!

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 12:11 PM

  4. Kucinich is the only guy with a real plan for healthcare - get the private insurers out of the loop - the $600 billion saved will cover the uninsured.

    Can you imagine the boom to business if they didn't have to worry about healthcare costs?

    We have lost huge numbers of jobs to countries (Canada and others) where healthcare costs are covered. American labor is not in a position to compete fairly against labor costs from a country where healthcare is not even part of the formula.

    But alas, Kucinich is not going to be president.

    UGH!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 12:19 PM

  5. LBH - It appears to me that there remains a $4000 gap between whot you pay for insurance and the tax credit Senator McCain proposes. I am happy for you and your family that making up that $4000 seems to present no hardship. Many working families are not so fortunate.

    Posted by: Fleur du Mal Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 12:49 PM

  6. Fleur,

    I pay $9000 (this would be a $9000 gap not $4000) a year right now without a tax credit, this is a hardship.

    A $5000 tax credit, that I don't currently have, would go a long way in helping.

    My State provides government paid health care for anyone who can't afford private insurance ( which has been a huge disaster). I prefer picking my own doctors and not having to be put on a list to be seen for a problem.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:05 PM

  7. Cash Before Chemo: Hospitals Get Tough


    LAKE JACKSON, Texas -- When Lisa Kelly learned she had leukemia in late 2006, her doctor advised her to seek urgent care at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. But the nonprofit hospital refused to accept Mrs. Kelly's limited insurance. It asked for $105,000 in cash before it would admit her.

    Sitting in the hospital's business office, Mrs. Kelly says she told M.D. Anderson's representatives that she had some money to pay for treatment, but couldn't get all the cash they asked for that day. "Are they going to send me home?" she recalls thinking. "Am I going to die?"

    http://tinyurl.com/6mkx2u

    *****

    This is what private "for profit" healthcare gives us?

    This isn't funny nor is it an exceptional case. I have a friend that has just started treatment for colon cancer - he went to fill a prescription - they wanted $2,000 cash or no pills. His policy didn't cover extraordinary costs - $2,000 is considered extraordinary.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:10 PM

  8. Translation: Edwards is right,

    DC, Elizabeth Edwards has given support to Hillarys plan over Obamas, so if you are going to use her then you should also point this out.

    Translation: Hillary's plan is better than McCain and Obamas plan according to Elizabeth.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:10 PM

  9. This is what private "for profit" healthcare gives us?

    This isn't funny nor is it an exceptional case. I have a friend that has just started treatment for colon cancer - he went to fill a prescription - they wanted $2,000 cash or no pills. His policy didn't cover extraordinary costs - $2,000 is considered extraordinary.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    This is exactly why you should read your policy and know your coverages. Not all policies are the same and if you're paying for the cheapest coverage assuming that everythings covered then you're just ignorant.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:17 PM

  10. Getting married for health insurance

    Seven percent of Americans say they or someone in their household decided to tie the knot in the last year so they could receive healthcare benefits, a poll finds.


    WASHINGTON -- Some people marry for love, some for companionship, and others for status or money. Now comes another reason to get hitched: health insurance.

    In a poll released today, 7% of Americans said they or someone in their household decided to marry in the last year so they could get healthcare benefits via their spouse.

    "It's a small number but a powerful result, because it shows how paying for healthcare is reflected not only in family budgets but in life decisions," said Drew E. Altman, president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, which commissioned the survey as part of its regular polling on healthcare.

    On a broader scale, the survey found that healthcare costs outranked housing costs, rising food prices and credit card bills as a source of concern. Twenty-eight percent of those surveyed said they had experienced serious problems because of the cost of healthcare, compared with 29% who had problems getting a good job or a raise. Gasoline prices were the top economic worry, with 44% saying they had serious problems keeping up with increases at the pump.

    http://tinyurl.com/67zfu4

    *****

    That's healthcare driving family choices not family making healthcare choices.

    Bass - Ackward - if you ask me.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:39 PM

  11. When it comes to getting U.S. troops out of Iraq, Sen. John McCain was for the idea before he was against it.

    Three years before the Arizona Republican argued on the campaign trail that U.S. forces could be in Iraq for 100 years in the absence of violence, he decried the very concept of a long-term troop presence.

    In fact, when asked specifically if he thought the U.S. military should set up shop in Iraq along the lines of what has been established in post-WWII Germany or Japan -- something McCain has repeatedly advocated during the campaign -- the senator offered nothing short of a categorical "no."

    "I would hope that we could bring them all home," he said on MSNBC. "I would hope that we would probably leave some military advisers, as we have in other countries, to help them with their training and equipment and that kind of stuff."

    Host Chris Matthews pressed McCain on the issue. "You've heard the ideological argument to keep U.S. forces in the Middle East. I've heard it from the hawks. They say, keep United States military presence in the Middle East, like we have with the 7th Fleet in Asia. We have the German...the South Korean component. Do you think we could get along without it?"

    McCain held fast, rejecting the very policy he urges today. "I not only think we could get along without it, but I think one of our big problems has been the fact that many Iraqis resent American military presence," he responded. "And I don't pretend to know exactly Iraqi public opinion. But as soon as we can reduce our visibility as much as possible, the better I think it is going to be."

    (huffpo)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:44 PM

  12. McSame:

    "We should stay in Iraq until no more American troops are being killed, then we can stay forever"


    That is going to be a tough sell for most Americans.

    Maybe he can pull it off but I doubt he had that ability when he was at the top of his game (20 - 30 years ago) I don't see him closing the deal. Too old and grouchy.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:47 PM

  13. It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter.

    On a blog linked to her Web site- www.reynoldsnews.com- Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency.

    The same post criticized Obama's "Audacity of Hope" theme: "Hope by definition is not based on facts," wrote Reynolds. It is an emotional expectation. Things hoped for may or may not come. But help based on experience trumps hope every time."

    In another blog entry, Reynolds gives an ever-sharper critique of Obama: "It is a sad testimony that to protect his credentials as a unifier above the fray, the senator is fueling the media characterization that Rev. Dr. Wright is some retiring old uncle in the church basement."

    I don't know if Reynolds' eagerness to help Wright stage a disastrous news conference with the national media was a way of trying to help Clinton - my queries to Reynolds by phone and e-mail weren't returned yesterday - but it's safe to say she didn't see any conflict between promoting Wright and supporting Clinton.

    *****

    Surprise surprise surprise - HRC and her surrogates pounding away at the M$M offering up Wright on a platter? I guess, if this works for her, eh?

    Then again - the truth is out and it might just blow-up in her face (I hope so)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:52 PM

  14. It's not the gas taxes that are the problem.

    McCain proves as he wakes up each day that his knowledge of the economy can fit in a thimble with plenty of room to spare. His solution to show how "hip" he is about the economy, even though he owns 8 houses and has easy access to a private jet: let's cut the gas tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day.

    Now I expect McCain to give us a worthless symbolic gesture that distracts us from the true problem. I almost insist on it. But watching Clinton join in AND criticize Obama for not making it a consensus? Really?

    Clinton, unlike McCain, will at least pay for the tax revenue by taxing windfall profits from oil companies. A worthless symbolic gesture to fix a worthless symbolic gesture seems appropriate. To his credit, Obama noted that McCain's proposal would save motorists only about $25 or $30.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:57 PM

  15. Fluer,

    You mention that many working families can't afford $4000 a year in medical insurance and that you're happy for me and my family that we can. You however didn't include yourself in this group, so I ask you: how much do you pay out of pocket for medical insurance?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 1:57 PM

  16. McCain told the Charlie Rose Show that the Korea model was "exactly" the right template for U.S. forces in Iraq. Only three months later, and on the same show, he completely reversed himself.

    "Do you think that this - Korea, South Korea is an analogy of where Iraq might be," Rose asked in November 2007.

    "I don't think so," replied McCain.

    "Even if there are no casualties?" Rose chimed in.

    "No," said McCain. "But I can see an American presence for a while. But eventually I think because of the nature of the society in Iraq and the religious aspects of it that America eventually withdraws."


    Then, in the lead up to the New Hampshire primary, the senator famously said that he wouldn't mind seeing the U.S. in Iraq for a hundred years, "as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed." And when his political opponents used that statement against him, McCain responded by saying he was drawing an analogy to the current military presence in Japan, Germany and South Korea.

    And yet, when he was asked by Matthews in 2005, if he "would you be happy with [Iraq] being the home of a U.S. garrison" like Germany, McCain again said no.

    *****

    John "Grandpa" McSame is impossible to keep up with, he flips out then flops back, then flips in and flops out.

    Pathetic, American deserves far better.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:00 PM

  17. It's not the gas taxes that are the problem.

    McCain proves as he wakes up each day that his knowledge of the economy can fit in a thimble with plenty of room to spare.
    ~~~~~~~

    Republican Leaders Challenge Democrats to Lower the Gas Prices


    Before the election of 2006 when Democrats regained control of the house and senate Democrats promised that they had a plan to lower the cost of gas. All we had to do was elect them and they would unveil their secret plan and gas prices would magically be reduced. It hasn’t happened, as a matter of fact gas prices are up over one dollar a gallon since the Democrats took over.

    Here is a press release issued by Pelosi before Democrats took over control of the house and senate:

    “Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”

    Not only have they failed to deliver, but gas prices have risen exponentially since they regained power. Now Republican leaders are calling out Democrats for their still secret plan to bring down gas prices, wondering when they are going to unveil it. Here are a couple of excerpts from a letter Republican leaders sent to the speaker of the do nothing house:

    “Two years ago this week, you stated that House Democrats had a ‘commonsense plan’ to ‘lower gas prices,’ ” the letter said. “In light of the skyrocketing gasoline prices affecting working families and every sector of our struggling economy, we are writing today to respectfully request that you reveal this ‘commonsense plan’ so we can begin work on responsible solutions to help ease this strain.”

    “Once a nightmare scenario, $4 gasoline is now a very real possibility of becoming a summer staple,” the letter stated. “In some cities, including San Francisco and Chicago, it is already a startling reality.”

    Nancy Pelosi could not be reached for comment, what a surprise.

    Democrats made many promises to their constituents before the 2006 election and other than raising the minimum wage nothing has been accomplished. They promised to end the war, they haven’t. They promised to reduce the cost of gas, they haven’t.

    It is about time that they were called out for doing absolutely nothing. It is time to hold their feet to the fire. This is a do-nothing congress.

    This is naturally a ploy by house Republicans to bring attention to the fact that the congress has accomplished nothing, but it proves a point. The Democrats knew they could do nothing about the price of gas but they told the people that they could anyway. The only thing raising taxes on oil companies would accomplish is raising the price of gas as companies would pass the additional costs of business on to the consumers.

    There was no secret plan, there is no secret plan, and now the Democrats have been called out. They remain silent. The only way congress can lower gas prices is to eliminate or reduce the federal tax on gas. And we know that ain’t going to happen.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So why aren't you asking the Democrats why they can't deliver on a promise that effects so many people?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:05 PM

  18. Surprise surprise surprise - HRC and her surrogates pounding away at the M$M offering up Wright on a platter? I guess, if this works for her, eh?

    Then again - the truth is out and it might just blow-up in her face (I hope so
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Still doesn't excuse Wrights racists, ignorant rants and Obamas lack of balls to tell the truth about this lunatic even as he's being trashed by Wright.

    Just goes to show that Obamalite isn't reday for prime time folks~~ he's weak and can't even muster enough manhood to debate Hillary one on one~

    Yikes!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:13 PM

  19. Obama says he's outraged by former pastor's comments

    Apr 29 02:04 PM US/Eastern
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    HICKORY, N.C. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama says he was outraged by the comments of his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and saddened by the spectacle of his appearance on Monday.
    Wright said Monday that criticism surrounding his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church.

    Obama told reporters Tuesday that Wright's comments do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church.

    Obama said, "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday."

    Wright's incendiary comments have dogged Obama's presidential campaign.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    20 years too late my friend!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:18 PM

  20. Two More Superdels Backing Obama


    Kentucky Rep. Chandler and Iowa DNC member Machaceck announce support for the Land of Lincolner.

    Chandler provides key support in Kentucky, where Obama is relatively weak. Its primary is May 20.

    Machaceck is the fifth of Iowa’s 12 superdelegates to endorse Obama; Clinton has three.

    *****

    The steady drip drip drip of superdelegates.

    HRC will go nuclear but she will not win.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:18 PM

  21. Sharpton blasts Obama grandstanding 'in front of white people'...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obama the uniter or Obama the divider?

    Ouch!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:21 PM

  22. What is Bush's plan to reduce the cost of gas at the pump? He is in charge and livin' large - what is he doing for us?


    (crickets chirping)


    Maybe time for a change, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:22 PM

  23. What is Bush's plan to reduce the cost of gas at the pump? He is in charge and livin' large - what is he doing for us?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He never promised that he had a plan to lower the cost. Nice diversion though!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:27 PM

  24. Maybe time for a change, eh?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly, since McCain is the only person to offer a plan (still waiting for the dems almost two years later) then he would be the man!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:31 PM

  25. If the gas tax is soooo important for keeping our roads and bridges safe then why are our bridges collapsing and our roads full of pot holes? I keep paying the tax but it doesn't seem to be helping~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:33 PM

  26. Bush takes aim at rising gasoline prices

    Summer deposits to national oil reserve halted

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Calling the oil issue a matter of national security, President Bush outlined a plan Tuesday to cut gasoline costs and temporarily stopped deposits to the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

    Bush is delaying this summer's deposits to the reserve -- an emergency stockpile of government-owned crude oil -- as he faces political pressure from campaigning members of Congress and anger from consumers about high gas prices.

    *****

    This is from two years ago.

    Those pesky facts, eh?

    Bush said it was "a matter of national security" and yet he has failed to do anything about it, just like him, eh?

    I guess Bunnypants never promised to reduce gas prices in the land of unicorns and rainbows. (I never go there)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:42 PM

  27. The gas-price strategy was the first major initiative for new White House Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten. He spent the weekend working with congressional, agency and industry officials to devise the approach.

    Wholesale gasoline futures for June delivery dropped eight cents a gallon to $2.10 on the New York Mercantile exchange after Bush's speech, the Associated Press reported.

    ****

    "The gas-price strategy was the first major initiative for new White House Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten. "

    Whoop's didn't see this failure coming, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 2:45 PM

  28. The Wrong Stuff: Why the left defends Rev. Wright.


    The Weekly Standard ^ | April 29, 2008 | Dean Barnett


    THE JEREMIAH WRIGHT IMBROGLIO PROBABLY would have thrown even the most capable political movement for a loop. But the left's reaction to the still continuing crisis has drifted into high comedy. With one full-throated political primal scream, Obama defenders will insist that Reverend Wright doesn't matter, and suggest that Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos should be drummed out of the punditocracy for wasting precious debate time on such a frivolous distraction. Yet with the next breath, Obama supporters will champion Jeremiah Wright, noting his supreme form of patriotism (as David Gergen did) or comparing him to Frederick Douglas or Martin Luther King as numerous prominent bloggers have.

    Obviously lost in the emotion of the political moment, the people making the latter case don't see that they're contradicting their earlier stance that Reverend Wright doesn't matter. By defending him, they implicitly concede that he matters. By defending him in such an over-the-top manner, they suggest that Obama should be embracing his connection with this angrily verbose hero among us rather than seeking distance from him.

    Of course, even at the farthest reaches of the left, the denizens probably understand that Reverend Wright's rhetoric is a political loser. If a crude political calculus is too vulgar an exercise for the Obama supporting masses, there's also the fact that Wright's rhetoric is unspeakably ugly. So, it's worth asking, why do so many on the left feel the need to defend Wright when the proper political move would be to dismiss him as irrelevant and the proper moral move would be to decry his offensive comments?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:05 PM

  29. Bush promised in 2000:

    "This is an administration that is hoping the issue goes away," Bush said. ..."The vice president seems to forget who's been in office for seven years," Bush said. "This is an administration that has been in charge, and the price of gasoline has risen steadily since they've been in office."

    When asked what he would do as president to address the price at the pump, Bush said he would confer with oil-producing allies and ask them to pump more crude. "I would use the capital my administration will earn with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, to convince them to open up the spigot," Bush said. "That's where we will get immediate relief."

    *****

    Sure high gas prices are the speakers fault? She is in charge of the WH?

    ROTFLMFAO!

    Maybe that sells on Faux, but not in the heartland.

    Whatever happened to the personal responsibility thing the con's always preach? It only applies to others not republicans,

    They point fingers faster than a NY second when something is wrong, eh? It is always someone elses fault, never Bunnypants or his crew.

    That is so eight years ago, I hope McSame runs on it. "Not my fault"

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:06 PM

  30. Sadly too many of the Bush supporters never read what he actually says, they just march in lock-step like so many mindless lemmings.

    Promises broken are on a list too long to itemize here, how about a little challenge - how many promises has Bunnypants kept?

    That'd be the short list, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:09 PM

  31. "He never promised that he had a plan to lower the cost. Nice diversion though!"

    ******

    "I would use the capital my administration will earn with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, to convince them to open up the spigot," Bush said. "That's where we will get immediate relief."

    ****

    That line always gets me, lolololo WHAT capital? I guess he never EARNED any! lolololo

    Talk about ignorant. The very definition is thus!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:13 PM

  32. Sadly too many of the Bush supporters never read what he actually says, they just march in lock-step like so many mindless lemmings.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I know you love to get all frothy at the mouth spewing your Bush hater crap but Bush is done. Try and focus on the present.

    The Dems said two years ago that they had a plan to lower gas prices if elected. Since being elected gas has gone up 30 to 40%.

    Simple question, even for Bush haters~~ What's the plan Stan?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:17 PM

  33. Better yet, plaese explain what Obummer's plan is to lower gas prices?


    I will be waiting but not holding my breath~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:19 PM

  34. The only solution to lower gas prices is drilling at home and making more refineries.

    Too bad the left doesn't get it~ You my friend and lefties like you are the reason we have out of control gas prices and out of control food prices and out of control world hunger~

    Give yourself a round of applause, it's well deserved.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:22 PM

  35. Left - right - left - right. The cliff is just ahead!

    Bush is in the oval office not anybody else, what has HIS plan gotten us, now that you admit you were wrong to say he never promised lower gas prices. RIGHT - you admit your error, RIGHT? Or are you as characterless as the petty insults that abound in every posts you make?


    Now if you can just come full circle and admit Bush lied. . .

    The gift that just keeps giving. Jeez if you ever came to reality . . . .


    lololololololo


    Sorry - I'm laughing too hard to type. . .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:24 PM

  36. If you want to be taken seriously you have to at least pretend to be a little serious. Of course you have posted you have no interest in being taken seriously and nobody ever will take you seriously as long as you keep up the "Bush never lied" meme.

    It just at selling to nobody . .


    Thanks

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

  37. That line always gets me, lolololo WHAT capital? I guess he never EARNED any! lolololo

    ~~~

    I would agree, so now you can focus on current issues.

    Now please tell me what the Dem plan is?

    Obamas plan?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:26 PM

  38. Seven years of GOP-rule and a half-decade of Middle Eastern wars later, oil prices are about to hit $100 a barrel. In real terms, Americans are now paying as much or more for gas today as they were during the worst days of the oil-supply crunch after the Iranian revolution. And in many parts of America, especially rural areas far from distribution pipelines, consumers are facing the imminent prospect of the $4 gallon.

    Which leads to the Democratic conundrum. While Republicans in 2000 went after the Democrats by simply making stuff up, Democrat candidates in 2008 — who have reality on their side — have yet to tie these high prices around the necks of George Bush and his GOP enablers.


    *****
    Curious that, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:29 PM

  39. Bush Pushes Congress to Move on the Economy
    President Bush charged that Congress is blocking his proposals to deal with high gas prices -- and dragging its feet on other issues to address the nation's sagging economy.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hmm, maybe you should stop blaming Bush and tell your leaders to quit blocking his proposals or give us there own plan that they promised.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:29 PM

  40. Nothing on that list of promises kept, eh?

    I'd think a Bush supporter could recite them off the top of their heads?

    Anything in the way of promises kept? One or two even?

    I guess not.

    OFW

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:32 PM

  41. Outrage: DNC Ad Shows U.S. Soldiers Being Blown Up

    Monday, April 28, 2008 9:37 PM
    By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size

    The Democratic National Committee has sparked outrage among veterans and others across the internet by running an anti-John McCain ad that shows U.S. soldiers being blown up.


    After the new ad’s voice-over castigated McCain for suggesting that the United States may stay in Iraq for “maybe 100” years, the footage becomes shocking.


    The DNC ad then shows an explosive device detonating near two soldiers standing beside a palm tree. The two soldiers disappear in an explosive fireball. The video also shows images of burning vehicles.

    The footage appears similar to film taken by jihadists who videotape IED explosions that kill American combat troops. The jihadists place the video on the internet to tout their "kill Americans" campaign success. The Army estimates that more than 6,500 jihadist Web sites promote violence against America and American troops.


    Many U.S. media outlets have refused to air excerpts from such videos for several reasons - including out of respect of the servicemen and women depicted in the videos.


    The DNC apparently does not agree. Calls to the DNC for comment and for information about the footage went unreturned.


    The Republican National Committee harshly criticized the ad, stating: “It is becoming clear that [DNC Chairman] Howard Dean and the Democratic National Committee will say and do anything to defeat John McCain.” The RNC demanded that the ad be stopped.


    The McCain campaign and the RNC contend that the Democrats have been distorting McCain’s comment that the United States may remain in Iraq for "maybe 100” years. Such critics say McCain’s comments have been taken out of context.


    The Associated Press reported that he actually went on to say:


    “As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it's fine with me, and I hope it would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al-Qaida is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."


    Republicans also allege that the DNC violates federal election law by coordinating its ad campaign with the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton campaigns.


    The RNC counsel has sent letters to the heads of NBC, CNN, and MSNBC demanding the ad be pulled.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Shameless pigs!!!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:33 PM

  42. Obama does not support the "gas tax holiday" and has said the average motorist would not benefit significantly from such a suspension; by some estimates, the federal government would lose about $10 billion in revenue.


    "My opponent, Senator Obama, opposes giving consumers a break," Clinton said, campaigning in North Carolina. "I understand the American people need some relief."

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

  43. Nothing on that list of promises kept, eh?

    I'd think a Bush supporter could recite them off the top of their heads?
    ~~~~

    Unlike you, who worships Obamas every move, I do not support Bush on every issue. I know that throws your whole Bush lock step theory out the window, but then I never expect Liberals to have an open mind.

    I don't think he has lived up to his promises, like keeping spending under control. I do not believe government can control gas prices so anyone who has promised it is lying, even Bush.

    The difference between me and you is that I don't believe everything my party leaders spew. I know that there isn't a plan because it's not possible. I can say when leaders are full of shit but you seem to side step anything negative about anyone you support and try to spin it back on Bush.

    Very immature.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:43 PM

  44. The White House yesterday rejected one measure backed by Democrats and at least one prominent Republican: a tax on some oil company profits. White House spokesman Scott McClellan called it a "failed command-and-control approach of the past."

    Bush's moves are similar to those he and past presidents have proposed during spikes in gasoline prices, even though history has shown that the laws of supply and demand control short-term prices. In his speech, Bush said the best thing government can do is push automakers to produce -- and consumers to use -- vehicles that run on something other than gasoline.

    Bush has rejected one change that some experts said could reduce oil consumption: tougher federally mandated fuel-economy standards for cars, trucks and SUVs. The president has supported modest increases for some vehicles. But any increase in those standards would take years to bring down demand and ease prices.

    (from back in 2006)

    ****

    As long as Bush and the GOPhers block the democrats any plan they might try is moot, or am I missing something?

    So how 'bout that Bush plan?

    What is he doing to help us at the pump or is it just up to the future presidents? He is still in the oval office so . . .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:49 PM

  45. Maybe Bush could French kiss a Saudi prince or two? Or they could hold hands and take a stroll - Bush can then spring his plan, the question is what plan?

    Anything?

    Maybe it's a secret plan that only Cheney knows and he is waiting for the right time to let us all in on it?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:53 PM

  46. ANALYSIS-Bush drilling plan wouldn't have eased pump prices

    WASHINGTON, April 29 (Reuters) - The Bush administration says the United States would be less addicted to foreign oil and fuel prices would be lower if Congress had only opened up Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling.

    But that claim doesn't reflect the long lead time to develop the refuge's huge oil reserves, which would not be available for several more years and initial volumes would still be small if Congress in 2002 had approved the administration's plan to drill in ANWR, energy experts say.

    http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2934033020080429

    *****

    Whoop's - lead time, I bet Bunnypants never heard of that. So drilling is not a plan.

    What's the plan?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 3:56 PM

  47. You're a useless tool of Obama~ Egh!

    Hillary has a plan, where's Obummers?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:03 PM

  48. NO DOUBT IT makes everyone feel better when the president states his concern for Americans, who are now paying more than $3 a gallon for gasoline. Unfortunately, the measures President Bush chose to announce this week to combat high prices are either meaningless or possibly dangerous in the long run, even if they do offer a bit of temporary relief. For example, just talking publicly about "price gouging" can spook gasoline providers into slightly lowering prices. And maybe it's useful to inspire state officials to start looking harder for crooks, given that price gouging is defined at the state level, not by the federal government. But in the long term, such talk encourages the public to believe that evil price gougers are responsible for higher pump prices, when the real culprits are global economic growth, increased demand and Americans' own large cars.

    [...]

    And he (Bush) could have used his statutory authority to raise automobile fuel economy standards or persuaded Congress to find other ways to improve mileage per gallon of U.S. vehicles. Again, if he were completely honest, the president would tell Americans that the main reason fuel prices are higher in this country is because demand is growing -- and one reason for growing demand is that people drive inefficient cars. They drive inefficient cars because public policy, long shaped by the president and by Congress, has made it advantageous to do so. Until that changes, little else will.

    http://tinyurl.com/eq3ng


    ****

    One didn't need to be able to tell the future to know in 2006 Bush was lying or unable to make good on anything he promised.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:04 PM

  49. Nothing on the Bush plan, eh?

    lol

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:05 PM

  50. Maybe the Bush plan is $200 per barrel by the end of the year?

    So far so good.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:06 PM

  51. Oh ya the Dems do have a plan~ Ethonal ~ i.e. world food crisis!

    Nice plan, Stan!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:07 PM

  52. Maybe the Bush plan is $200 per barrel by the end of the year?

    You're an idiot!

    nuff said!

    I'm otta here

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:08 PM

  53. Bush has no plan for immediate relief for reducing gas prices. None. When more than one reporter asked if he would consider temporarily removing the 18-cent gas-pump tax, he demurred, and again blamed Congress for the current situation, sidestepping the question entirely.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:10 PM

  54. Bush blames the gas problem on Congress, and nowhere else. Not on the oil companies, who set their own prices (and record unprecedented profits), and not on foreign oil, but Congress, who has not, he lamented, followed his plan for building more nuclear power plants and have not authorized more drilling.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:12 PM

  55. Bush has lost faith of the people


    U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., Tuesday said the economy is in its current state because U.S. President George Bush ignored repeated warnings.

    In the Democratic response to Bush's Rose Garden news conference, Schumer said Bush "has closed his eyes and put his hands over his ears as these crises have grown.

    "Now all of a sudden he's realizing the problems," Schumer said, later adding, "He has lost control of what is going on in the American economy and lost the faith of the American people."

    Schumer also said Bush is "plain wrong" about how to address the situation. In particular, he said, opening the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration will do nothing to alleviate high gasoline prices, noting it will take 10 years before new oil could be produced and then it would reduce the price of gas by only a penny a gallon.

    Schumer said the president cannot be both a friend to Big Oil and back lower prices.

    http://tinyurl.com/3jlv42


    ****

    I think "Duh!" 'bout covers it.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 4:31 PM

  56. Barack's plan is:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Gee, we only have to wait until 2025 for gas prices to come down~

    What a friggin joke!

    Vote for Hillary if you don't want to wait until 2025 fools!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 5:32 PM

  57. Still no Bush plan to comment on?

    What has Bunnypants done? Anything? Well anything effective? Obviously not, what is his plan going forward? His abject failure has created the high prices - so what is he going to do to correct his error?

    Anything?

    (More crickets chirping)

    Any plan is better than no plan, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 6:59 PM

  58. Still no Bush plan to comment on?

    What has Bunnypants done? Anything? Well anything effective? Obviously not, what is his plan going forward? His abject failure has created the high prices - so what is he going to do to correct his error?

    Anything?

    (More crickets chirping)

    Any plan is better than no plan, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:01 PM

  59. You are so consumed with Bush hatred that's it's just embarrasing.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:02 PM

  60. I guess you're not ready for a change since you can't name what the change is going to be.

    Hillary can help you out since Pelosi and Obama are clueless! LOL

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:06 PM

  61. Yes, come towards the light:

    "Vote for Hillary if you don't want to wait until 2025 fools!"


    HA!

    You just endorsed HRC over McSame, now you are half way there.

    Come - turn away fro the darkness.

    lol

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:07 PM

  62. Obama's Risky Denunciation Of Rev. Wright (If you read one Wright story today this should be it)
    Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:35:08 PM · by Berlin_Freeper · 13 replies · 508+ views
    CBS News ^ | April 29, 2008 | Vaughn Ververs
    Barack Obama reversed course and denounced the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in the strongest and most direct terms yet on Tuesday. It was a decision that may help him reclaim some of the initiative in a tight presidential primary contest, but it is not without risks. ...In taking such an aggressive stand Obama may succeed in publicly distancing himself from the spectacle that the Rev. Wright has become, but his newfound outrage raises some further questions. In his Philadelphia address, Obama stood by his friend. “As imperfect as he may be,” he said of Wright a month ago, “he has been...

    ~~~~~

    Last week Obama was in full support of Wright, today he threw him off the bus. I guess Rev Wright was right about Obama being a politician who will say anything to get elected. Ha ha ha

    Who's the flip flopper now?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:12 PM

  63. Vote for Hillary !

    Did you really mean to post that?

    It would be shocking but I would have to give some credit if you realize she is better than McSame.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:22 PM

  64. Double Talk Express: The Parsley/Hagee Problem & Exploiting Campaign Finance Loopholes

    On Countdown Tuesday, Keith and Rachel dissected two of McCain’s major potential liabilities: his own “radical” pastors and the many examples that threaten his image as the Honorable Campaign Finance Reform Champion

    Despite his horrendous showing at the ABC debate, I’m grateful Stephanopoulos finally broke the media silence and confronted McCain on his Hagee problem last weekend. When will the rest of the mainstream press wake up and realize that religious leaders on the right have been saying controversial stuff for years?

    When will they also realize that the Maverick they fell in love with has left the building? Saint McCain once championed strict campaign finance rules. Now he exploits (and even violates) his own signature legislation. The man who once stood as the moral arbiter on torture now remains silent as his own legislation gets used to torture people. He was for the Bush tax cuts before he was against them. Agent of intolerance to commencement speaker. “Bring em all home” to “100 years is fine with me.”

    Are there any defining attributes John McCain won’t sacrifice to appease the lunatic fringe and become President? More importantly, is there any way to get the press to cover this?

    http://tinyurl.com/66zk8m

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:35 PM

  65. Double Talk Express: The Parsley/Hagee Problem & Exploiting Campaign Finance Loopholes

    On Countdown Tuesday, Keith and Rachel dissected two of McCain’s major potential liabilities: his own “radical” pastors and the many examples that threaten his image as the Honorable Campaign Finance Reform Champion

    Despite his horrendous showing at the ABC debate, I’m grateful Stephanopoulos finally broke the media silence and confronted McCain on his Hagee problem last weekend. When will the rest of the mainstream press wake up and realize that religious leaders on the right have been saying controversial stuff for years?

    When will they also realize that the Maverick they fell in love with has left the building? Saint McCain once championed strict campaign finance rules. Now he exploits (and even violates) his own signature legislation. The man who once stood as the moral arbiter on torture now remains silent as his own legislation gets used to torture people. He was for the Bush tax cuts before he was against them. Agent of intolerance to commencement speaker. “Bring em all home” to “100 years is fine with me.”

    Are there any defining attributes John McCain won’t sacrifice to appease the lunatic fringe and become President? More importantly, is there any way to get the press to cover this?

    http://tinyurl.com/66zk8m

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:39 PM

  66. The sad reality is that this President has done nothing over the past 8 years to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, leaving us beholden to the skyrocketing prices — which are due in large part to the instability we have created in the Middle East. It’s a truly vicious circle.

    Imagine if we had invested a fraction of what we spent in Iraq on sustainable energy. Gasoline could be well on it’s way to being a relic of the past instead of one of the primary causes of the current recession. Considering both Bush and Cheney’s extensive ties to the oil industry, I guess this shouldn’t come as a big surprise.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:43 PM

  67. It's like Circus Circus in here with LBH doing his drunken clown act. Watching him run from Mr. 20% like a meth addict with his hair on fire is more than a little hilarious. Little Bitty Homeschooler wants to play it off like he never was a cheerleader for Mr. 20% when he's still got the KoolAid Enema Toob hanging out of his backside. Don't make me go back and Google all those hero-worshipping rants that you used to go on. It's sad enough watching you spin yourself into the ground on a daily basis, here.

    On to the REAL circus... the Late Nite Funnies:

    "President Bush announced the rebate checks for at least $600. ... I'm going to use my check to buy enough gas to drive to the bank and cash it. And then maybe back. The rebates were pushed through by the president to help get the economy going. It's kind of like when the mom of the kid nobody likes bakes everyone cupcakes so you can pretend to like him until the cupcakes are gone, and then you go back to giving him wedgies."
    --Jimmy Kimmel

    "Tomorrow I go to Washington D.C. to perform at the White House Correspondents Dinner. It's thrown by the press corps for the president and his staff. Everyone who works for the president will be there. Dick Cheney will be there; Condoleezza Rice will be there; Fox News will be there."
    --Craig Ferguson

    "I don't want to sit next to John McCain. I don't want to be the one who has to cut his meat into little pieces."
    --Craig Ferguson

    "Hillary Clinton said she is a stronger candidate than Barack Obama. And to prove it, she counts the votes she got in Michigan, even though Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot. It's a pretty strong argument. I mean, whenever Barack Obama's name is not on the ballot, she beats him every single time."
    --Jay Leno

    "Well, experts say the big test for Barack Obama will be surviving the negative attacks. The big test for Hillary Clinton, of course, is surviving North Carolina. The big test for John McCain is just surviving until November."
    --Jay Leno

    "I like John McCain. Do you like John McCain? He looks like the guy that forgets to roll up his windows at the car wash. ... He looks like the guy who yells 'Okay, who touched the darkness control on the toaster?'"
    --David Letterman

    "Big day at the White House today. I've got to mention this. Today, at the White House, President Bush was busy. President Bush signed a proclamation declaring this Malaria Awareness Week. There was an awkward moment when, during the ceremony, Bush said, 'This is a great day for all Malarians.'"
    --Conan O'Brien

    "And his daughter, you know, is getting married, Jenna Bush. She was on Larry King talking about it. Kind of a big brouhaha with the Republicans going on here, because she said she wasn't sure that she was going to support McCain. She said she's 'open to learning' about the other candidates.' Because they haven't been on TV a lot. But come on, this is kind of a treason in the Bush family. Not supporting a Democrat -- being open to learning. That's outrageous."
    --Bill Maher

    "And the president was all over TV this week. He was on 'Deal or No Deal.' Then he was on 'American Idol,' which was very unexpected, because it's usually only in the early episodes where they have the retards. I kid the president, but I like to call him a retard on a weekly basis."
    --Bill Maher

    "This campaign is very tough on the Democrats because they have to fight it out even longer. McCain, see, the only thing he has to fight is regularity."
    --Jay Leno

    "John McCain, no one talks about John McCain anymore because he won his side of the thing, and now he's just wandering around. He's just wandering around, nobody's talking about him. So he's trying to do things to get press, this week John McCain is on a tour of what he calls 'Forgotten Places in America.' Forgotten places, yeah. Which, at his age, means just about everywhere." --Conan O'Brien

    "It was a big night of celebration for the Clinton camp, but they still face some serious money problems. Even in her victory speech last night, Hillary pretty much begged people to go to her website and contribute. If only she knew a very wealthy former president who made $30 million for his autobiography."
    --Jimmy Kimmel

    "Well, even though she won yesterday, Hillary Clinton's campaign now -- $10 million in debt. $10 million in debt, and, ironically, her big issue: I can handle the economy."
    --Jay Leno

    "And John McCain is now beginning a campaign to try and attract African-American voters. Now, McCain says that although he never marched with Martin Luther King, he did march with General Sherman through the South during the Civil War. So that's got to count for something."
    --Jay Len


    "Political experts say that Barack Obama is attracting mostly younger voters, while Hillary Clinton is attracting much older voters. They may be right, because today John McCain said he's voting for Hillary."
    --Conan O'Brien

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 7:56 PM

  68. Humor is the great thing, the saving thing. The minute it crops up, all our irritations and resentments slip away and a sunny spirit takes their place.

    Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 8:11 PM

  69. The Zombie Chow is deep today. I'll just start at the top and work my way down. This would be more fun if we had html tags to work with. Oh, well....

    "Corn, you don't know what your talking about....Get a clue and do some research next time you want to make a point about us bitter folks!!!!"
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 12:09 PM

    "What about a less partisan source? In February, on The Health Care Blog, Robert Laszweski, the president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates and former top executive at Liberty Mutual Insurance Company took a look at McCain's plan"
    --David Corn

    Non-partisan experts (like R. Lasweski) agree that Gramps McBush has a plan that will do nothing to solve the Health Care Crisis. Non-partisan experts agree that the Little Bitty Homeschooler needs to take remedial reading classes. Read for content, dumbass.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 8:20 PM

  70. Clinton: $2.3B in earmarks


    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has requested nearly $2.3 billion in federal earmarks for 2009, almost three times the largest amount received by a single senator this year.

    The Democratic presidential candidate’s staggering request comes at a time when Congress remains engaged in a heated debate over spending federal dollars on parochial projects.

    It also has gained traction on the campaign trail. Presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), a longtime foe of earmarks, has called for eliminating what he dubs “wasteful Washington spending.” Democratic front-runner Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has spurned earmarks, seeking no funds for pet projects in the upcoming fiscal year.

    Yet Clinton is continuing to request billions for earmarks, most of which will go to her home state.

    *****

    $2.3 Billion is a ton of money.



    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 8:23 PM

  71. "So why aren't you asking the Democrats why they can't deliver on a promise that effects so many people?"
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 2:05 PM

    No need to ask when anyone who hasn't fried their brain on crystal meth knows that Roadblock Republicans have broken the record number of Filibusters in the Senate. They broke the record in only half of the time that it took to set the old record. They are well on their way to setting another shameful and reckless record in shitty governance.
    http://tinyurl.com/5t4nkv

    They have blocked incentives for research and the reductions in the consumption of gas. They have enabled a war at every turn that has cut the production of petroleum in the country with one of the highest oil reserves and destabilized production in other countries. Building new refineries and increasing the use of biofuels only works if consumption can be cut.
    http://tinyurl.com/3h476b

    Capt asked you to come up with a single solitary idea or plan that the DMW have put forward to fix anything. You came up with less than zip because republicans have done everything within their power to help deny Americans what they need at every turn. They tried to stop the minimum wage hike that helped keep incomes from getting swamped by inflation. In conjunction with Mr. 20% who had dutifully hidden his veto pen up his ass until the Dems took power, they have tried to stop everything from helping needy folks get health care coverage with SCHIP, Stem Cell research, Armed Services funding, extending the bill that would allow for a FISA fix, etc, etc, ad nauseam.

    Americans know that Mr. 20% and his DMW pals in congress are out to screw them. This is why every special election held in the last few months has been won by the most liberal MoveOn Dems in some of the most conservative districts (Hastert's old seat and that one in Mississippi). This is why Gramps McBush can't pull ahead of either Obama or HRC in the polls when they are beating the crap out of each other. Americans know that DMW are the problems and Dems are the solution. The DMW is driving itself extinct in congress with its lack of ideas and its sheer stupidity in blocking the very things that Americans need. Dead. Man. Walking.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 9:19 PM

  72. "Just goes to show that Obamalite isn't reday for prime time folks~~ he's weak and can't even muster enough manhood to debate Hillary one on one~"
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 2:13 PM

    Goes to show that Little Bitty Homeschooler isn't "reday" for 3rd-grade. Obama doesn't have to "debate" HRC any more than Gramps has to debate Frederick of Hollywood Thompson. Obama beating up on a defenseless opponent makes him look like a bully. HRC has as much chance as Fred in getting the nomination. Yikes!

    By the way, doesn't your web browser put little red squiggly lines under the words that you spell incorrectly? Ya' think Gramps can cut you a tax break so that you can buy a clue?

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 9:24 PM

  73. "Just goes to show that Obamalite isn't reday for prime time folks~~ he's weak and can't even muster enough manhood to debate Hillary one on one~"
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 2:13 PM

    Goes to show that Little Bitty Homeschooler isn't "reday" for 3rd-grade. Obama doesn't have to "debate" HRC any more than Gramps has to debate Frederick of Hollywood Thompson. Obama beating up on a defenseless opponent makes him look like a bully. HRC has as much chance as Fred in getting the nomination. Yikes!

    By the way, doesn't your web browser put little red squiggly lines under the words that you spell incorrectly? Ya' think Gramps can cut you a tax break so that you can buy a clue?

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 9:32 PM

  74. "Obama says he's outraged by former pastor's comments
    Apr 29 02:04 PM US/Eastern"

    "20 years too late my friend!"
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 2:18 PM

    In the end it works out to Obama's benefit:

    Why Wright Doesn't Necessarily Hurt Obama's Shot at the Nomination

    "The harder the superdelegates are pressed to make a decision involving race--whether implicitly or explicitly--the more hesitant they will be, I think, "to cave--or to be seen caving, to anyone's racial biases, including voters'." In other words, the more that race and Wright are linked to the arguments against nominating Obama*--i.e., electability--the more chancy it is politically for superdels to side with Clinton; that choice then becomes "racism" over "hope" for a significant number of Democrats, namely Obama supporters. (NB: I'm not saying this is right. We're talking perceptions here.) And I suspect that the risk of being seen as bowing to bigotry overwhelms (or at least cancels out) the risk of suffering "bogeyman" attacks, which would, after all, only play in states Obama stands no chance of winning (like Mississippi)--while spurring a sizable backlash everywhere else."

    "In the end, then, Wright won't transform Obama into more electable general-election candidate or a friendlier top-of-the-ticket pick for downballot pols in contested blue-collar districts. We knew that a long time ago. But at this point, he could very well make it harder--fairly or unfairly--for the party bosses to choose Clinton instead. Talk about moving in mysterious ways."
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/539c5e

    HRC tries to go negative and the negative opinions of her skyrocket. Gramps tries to attack Obama as a tax and spend liberal. Obama fires back that Gramps is a spend and borrow Republican. Fiscal conservatives and just about every other American is unimpressed with Gramps in every respect (with the exception of his ability to nap on command).

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 9:41 PM

  75. "Sharpton blasts Obama grandstanding 'in front of white people'..."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Obama the uniter or Obama the divider?
    Ouch!
    Posted by: LBH April 29, 2008 2:21 PM

    The REAL story is told by Conservative writer Andrew Sullivan:

    Now Sharpton Attacks Obama
    29 Apr 2008 01:03 pm
    This is getting interesting:
    Barack Obama made a call for nonviolence in the aftermath of the Sean Bell verdict - infuriating the Rev. Al Sharpton, who accused the presidential candidate of trying to "grandstand in front of white people," sources told The Post.

    I think that is part of Jeremiah Wright's view of Obama as well: he will never forgive him for winning so many white votes, and breaking the pattern and ideology of victimhood and marginalization that forged Wright's identity. This dynamic is very powerful in minority circles.
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/5559uq

    Republicans can't stand anyone getting past their race or their background. They want to make minorities wallow in their victimhood. Obama don't play that:

    More from Sullivan:

    The Right, Race, And Obama
    29 Apr 2008 05:37 pm
    Brendan Loy makes an obvious point:
    The truth is that Obama is speaking to black people, too -- he's speaking to everyone -- and he is sending a very clear message: enough with the bullshit. Haven't conservatives been waiting for a black leader to do that for, like, forever?

    This is the promise of the Obama candidacy, encapsulated and made real. Obama is urging blacks to leave behind, once and for all, the politics of conspiratorial victimhood -- the politics of Jeremiah Wright and, although Obama can't afford politically to say so explicitly, of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton -- and embrace the politics of unity and hope and, ultimately, self-empowerment.

    It's extremely depressing that the first major national black politician who takes on the victimology of Sharpton and Jackson is greeted by the right with the kind of cynicism you see at Malkin or the Corner or Reynolds. It reveals, I think, the deeper truth: the Republican right only wants a black Republican to do this. They are not as interested in getting beyond the racial question, in changing the hopes and dreams of black America, as they are in exploiting it for partisan advantage. Their response to the first major black candidate for president tackling the old racial politics? "We don't believe him."

    Brendan expresses dismay at Glenn Reynolds. But Reynolds voted against Harold Ford. There's no black Democrat who could ever pass muster. Because they're Democrats.
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/5oj9nw

    Just like in Congress, any advances in our society must be destroyed by the DMW if they are brought forth by Democrats. Republicans hate America so much that they'd rather watch it burn than let Democrats lend a helping hand. Thank you Karl Rove for making Reds a permanent minority!

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 9:54 PM

  76. Obama does not support the "gas tax holiday" and has said the average motorist would not benefit significantly from such a suspension; by some estimates, the federal government would lose about $10 billion in revenue.

    "My opponent, Senator Obama, opposes giving consumers a break," Clinton said, campaigning in North Carolina. "I understand the American people need some relief."
    Posted by: LBH | April 29, 2008 3:35 PM

    I guess Sullivan is the only conservative that is immune to the Zombie Chow:

    Obama stands his ground. Weigel outlines why the tax holiday is a shameless pander. It has to be one of the most depressingly crude pieces of political pandering I've seen in ages. But Clinton and McCain are at one on it, which tells you something about their fitness to be president. Personally, I want a president able to resist this kind of crap, not endorse it.
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/3ttzt4

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 10:06 PM

  77. Pandy --- I agree.

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 10:11 PM

  78. HRC continues her March into Negative Hell:

    "Gov. Mike Easley, known to Obama supporters now as "Hillary's top NC surrogate," used the word "pansy" this morning to favorably compare Hillary Clinton to Rocky Balboa. Eyebrows were raised; Clinton said nothing. The pansy, is, of course, a flower of exquisite delicateness, which is probably where the 19th century taunt originated. It's now seen as a slur, albeit a slur of a lesser register than others. Not the most comfortable choice of words, but was Easley really saying that Clinton made Balboa look like a gay person? Or just an effeminate weakling? Who wrote that line for him?"
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/6pjc99

    It's like she wants desperately to lose.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 10:19 PM

  79. A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT

    April 29, 2008

    A New York Daily News reporter, Errol Louis, revealed that Rev. Barbara Reynolds, who is also a journalist, is a Clinton supporter who suggested Rev. Wright as a speaker to the National Press Club awhile back and was recently asked to organize his appearance there this week.

    Since Louis broke his story, the relevant February entry on Barbara Reynold's blog has disappeared -- just vanished. In addition, neither Rev. Reynolds nor the Clinton campaign, as of the posting of this news alert, have responded to queries about whether Reynolds suggested and organized Wright's appearance at the National Press Club with the knowledge of the Clinton campaign or go-betweens for the Clinton campaign.

    Using cache recovery and other techniques, a BuzzFlash reader recovered the key blog entry that Errol Louis quoted from before it was deleted.

    These are, allegedly, Rev. Reynolds' words of support for Clinton and explanation as to why she voted for Clinton in Maryland:

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 10:26 PM

  80. A Pew poll that shows young people flocking to the Democratic party (a demographic that was once ruled by the GOP back in the days of Reagan).
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/5wvcdj

    It's not just the young:
    Perhaps the most striking change since 2004 has come among voters born between 1956 and 1976 -- the members of Generation X and the later Baby Boomers. People in this age group tended to be more Republican during the 1990s, and the GOP still maintained a slight edge in partisan affiliation among Gen X and the late boomers in 2004 (47% identified with or leaned toward the GOP while 44% described themselves as Democrats or leaned Democratic).

    Currently, 51% of voters in this age group affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic compared with 39% who describe themselves as Republicans or lean toward the GOP.

    Good to know I'm not alone. Neither are you. This, by the way, is the fruit of an alleged political genius, turdblossom himself, a shamelessly effective tactician, but one of the worst political strategists in modern times. He has helped kill the Republican brand - and poison it for a generation.
    Source: http://tinyurl.com/3ns6h3

    Dead. Man. Walking.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | April 29, 2008 10:29 PM

  81. Summing up McCain's health care plan.

    Health Care. As long as you're in good health, who cares?

    Summing up McCain and Clinton's energy plan to cut gas prices.

    Rolling back the the federal tax will have the effect of rolling back prices two weeks.

    On being a small business in the Bush economy.

    What income? What taxes? What rebate check? What tax credit on no taxes to pay to buy 1/2 of what health care? Every plan the GOP comes up with assumes we all are making the same income these guys have.

    McCain's Mid East plan. Send more puppies! He must have seen Mom and Dad Save the Planet with Teri Garr and Jon Lovitz. After the Todd Spango Army (TSA) patrol all pick up the light grenade and disappear, the last guy says "we need reinforcements".

    Clinton and McCain hand in hand. Clinton passes the Americans with Disabilities Act and McCain comes along to challenge the White House as being able to handle his 100% disability.

    Sadr City launching rockets into the Green Zone. US sending tanks into Sadr City. This hasn't worked in The West Bank for the last 60 years, how does Petraeous think it will work in Baghdad? These people need electricity, food jobs and freedom. What do we offer them? Only the opportunity to understand what a light weight Saddam was.

    Bush's final act - a world economy that starves 100 million people. Thanks to congress for saying he's almost gone why stir things up? If he had ten days left, his rendition would still have time to save us from another mistake.

    Posted by: geof01 Author Profile Page | April 30, 2008 10:31 AM

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