I'm on the run today. Will be back with new postings next week. Remember, only 25 more mud-slinging days until the Pennsylvania primary....
Here's a good justification for war: you create the conditions for genocide and then you have to stick around to prevent that genocide. In a foreign policy speech on Wednesday, Senator John McCain said,
We have incurred a moral responsibility in Iraq. It would be an unconscionable act of betrayal, a stain on our character as a great nation, if we were to walk away from the Iraqi people and consign them to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing, and possibly genocide that would follow a reckless, irresponsible, and premature withdrawal.
No one--that is, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama--are calling for a reckless withdrawal. But who advocated the war that has already caused "horrendous violence" and "ethnic cleansing" for millions of Iraqis? McCain, for one. About 4 million Iraqis have been driven from their homes. Scores of thousands of Iraqi civilians--perhaps hundreds of thousands--are dead due to the war. Where was McCain's concern for such tragedy earlier?
In any event, what McCain has to say about the war will have less impact on his electoral prospects than what Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has to say. In recent days, due to the actions of Shiite militias, George W. Bush's so-called surge--mistakenly hailed by pundits and war-backers as a success--doesn't look like such a complete success. The fighting in Iraq this week shows that the fundamental conflicts of Iraq have not been addressed by the surge. The Iraqi government remains hapless and corrupt. Most Iraqis still go without many essential services. Violence--until the last few days--had dipped, but only down to 2005 levels. That was hardly a cause for celebration.
No matter what happens in the Democratic contest, no matter whom McCain ends up facing, his chances in November are tied directly to the war. He has no room for maneuvering. As a laissez-faire Republican who has little to say about the current economic crises, he will not be able to campaign as a Mr. Fixit for the economy. (If the economy is tanking, will voters appreciate his tough-love talk and calls for letting the market work?) Advantage: Democrat. On national security, all McCain really has is Iraq. If the situation there is relatively calm in the fall, he will be able claim credit for having pushed policies that led to this relative calm. If not, well...
Sadr and his lieutenants have more sway over the ground reality than the senator from Arizona. McCain better hope--or pray--that the Iraqis find reasons of their own for tamping down the violence in the fall. Just one word from Sadr could put McCain in deep electoral peril.
Comments
For your information my neice serves in the Israeli army
Posted by: LBH | March 26, 2008 2:18 PM
Right, and some of your best friends are jews.
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 12:32 PM
Muqtada al-Sadr has John McCain's best interests in mind, just as John McCain has Muqtada al-Sadr's best interests in mind.
Do you really think Muqtada wants occupation? Will he use violence against American soldiers, and other Iraqis even, to force the issue?
Just try to remember who won the American Revolution. Their tyrant is gone and they want their occupier gone too.
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 12:38 PM
Right, and some of your best friends are jews.
Neil the Jew hater
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I have relatives that are Jewish you moron!
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 12:46 PM
Look who's helping the ineffectual fund raiser John McCain raise fund in SLC and Denver, his good buddy Mitt Romney. There's no love lost between these two.
McCain needs the cash. He's facing two law suits for violating the public money agreement he signed.
Romney cast McCain as outside of the GOP's conservative mainstream and a Washington insider who contributed to the problems plaguing a broken system. McCain, in turn, argued that Romney's equivocations and reversals on several issues indicated a willingness to change his positions to fit his political goals
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 12:48 PM
I have relatives that are Jewish you moron!
Posted by: LBH | March 27, 2008 12:46 PM
Self loathing is an ugly characteristic. Try to get some help with that.
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 12:49 PM
No wonder you progressives, like Bagdad McDermont didn't want to go to war with Iraq, Saddam was there SUGER DADDY!
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Indictment: Iraq paid for junket
By MIKE ALLEN | 3/26/08 7:02 PM EST Text Size:
Federal prosecutors said Wednesday that a U.S. citizen working as a secret agent for Saddam Hussein organized and accompanied a congressional delegation trip to Iraq in 2002.
The trip was covertly funded by Iraq’s intelligence service, according to an indictment unsealed Wednesday.
The indictment calls attention to the problem of Iraqi spies operating within the United States before the invasion.
The Justice Department has brought charges against roughly a dozen of Saddam's agents operating within the United States since Operation Iraqi Freedom began in 2003.
The Michigan resident began working for the Iraqi intelligence service without registering with the Justice Department and was paid for his services with 2 million barrels of oil, the indictment said.
The trip was organized by a Michigan charity, Life for Relief and Development, that looked legitimate but in fact was connected to the Iraq government, according to the indictment.
The October 2002 trip included three members of Congress, the indictment said. Between 1999 and 2002, the Michigan man had been providing the Iraqi intelligence service with strategic advice on getting Congress to lift sanctions against Iraq, the indictment added.
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 12:56 PM
Self loathing is an ugly characteristic
Neil
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So is having sheeet for brains~~~~
Try to get some help with that.
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 12:57 PM
Al Sadr isn't the problem for you guy's, but this is:
Polls: Democrats Love McCain
Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:35 PM
By: Newsmax.com Article Font Size
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., addresses members and guests of the Los Angeles Worlds Affairs Council, Wed., in Los Angeles.
Recent polls, including Rasmussen and Gallup, are suggesting that many Democrats would vote for John McCain in next November's election — if he is running against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination.
According to Rasmussen, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have begun to "melt down" in the crucible of an increasingly "nasty primary fight." McCain leads Hillary by seven and Obama by nine.
According to Gallup, more than a quarter of Hillary supporters currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.
Says the Gallup Website, these predictions are based on an analysis of Democratic voters' responses to separate voting questions in March 7-22 Gallup Poll Daily election tracking.
Almost all Democratic voters who say they support Obama for their party's nomination also say they would vote for him in a general election matchup against McCain. But only 59 percent of Democratic voters who support Clinton say they would vote for Obama against McCain — while 28 percent say they would vote for McCain.
Furthermore, says Gallup, almost all of those who support Clinton for the Democratic nomination say they would vote for her against McCain. Seventy-two percent of those who support Obama for the party's nomination would vote for Clinton against McCain, while 19 percent would desert and vote for the Republican.
The polls also suggest that the Democratic nomination battle could have a negative impact for the Democratic Party in next November's election. A not insignificant percentage of both Obama and Clinton supporters currently say they would vote for McCain if he ends up running against the candidate they do not support, according to Gallup.
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 1:20 PM
From HuffPo today:
"The senior minister at Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington D.C., a church that the Clintons attended while in the White House, has risen to the defense of Barack Obama's former minister Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright's sermons have created a media firestorm over the last weeks that the Obama tried to dampen in a speech and Clinton recently commented on by saying 'he would not have been my pastor.' Snyder released a statement praising Wright as an 'outstanding church leader' who has been 'a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society.'
This morning Snyder appeared on MSNBC and defended Wright. Snyder said that while he may not agree with everything Wright has said, he believes that 'the church in America is stronger today because of [Wright's] leadership.'"
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So, the Clintons have a loony pastor, too. Is everyone crazy save for thee and me?
Posted by: Tomcantu
| March 27, 2008 1:38 PM
McCain Foreign Policy Statement condensed:
We sent the bull into the China Shop. If we remove the bull more dishes will be broken. We must keep the bull in charge of security until the owners have cleaned up all the broken china and glass.
Response to those who want to condemn Obama and Pastor Wright:
And you've sat through how many of Jeremiah Wright's Sermons? Say again? Was that none? Which part of his being black offends you the most?
Posted by: geof01
| March 27, 2008 4:07 PM
From an interview on CNBC after Obmamas economic speech:
Sen. OBAMA: You know, the thing you can--you can be assured of is that I'm not going to making these decisions based on ideology. I'm not a dogmatist. I know that some, you know, my opponents to the right would like to paint me as this wooly-eyed, you know, liberal or wild-eyed...
BARTIROMO: You're not a liberal?
Sen. OBAMA: The--but my attitude is that I believe in the market, I believe in entrepreneurship, I believe in opportunity, I believe in capitalism and I want to do what works. But what I want to make sure of is it works for all America and not just a small sliver of America. And if it turns out--if somebody can make a persuasive argument to me that, you know what, what we need at this juncture, at this particular point in time is a different set of policies than some of the ones that I've proposed, I'm always going to listen to people.
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Damn, he sure dodged that liberal question, didn't he!
I wouldn't admit it it either if I were him.
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 6:19 PM
I've sat through the five sermons on the DVD's I've seen that the church sells. I would assume the church then believes such words to be representative of the body of his work. Perhaps you have something that contradicts such rantings.
I've read extensively on black liberation theology. Scares the devil (well, not literally) out of me. Perhaps you can educate me on the subject.
It's not Reverend Wright's blackness that offends me. It's his incredible bigotry, his unbridled hatred, his unfettered victomology, his histrionic hyperbole (America had 9/11 coming to us, we developed AIDS to eradicate the black man, etc.), his close ties to Minister Farrakhan(trips to Libya with him in 1984, awards given to him, etc.) and, finally, his fanatical racism that, were it white-on-black, would make a KKK member blush.
What bothers me most is that this subject has taken the anti-race candidate whom I voted for and turned him into just another race hustler in the eyes of many.
Tom
Posted by: Tomcantu
| March 27, 2008 6:24 PM
Here's a sermon on Martin Luther King's
State of the Dream by Rev. Wright.
http://tinyurl.com/ytlqtl
Here's a description of liberation theology:
In essence, liberation theology explores the relationship between Christian, particularly Roman Catholic, theology and political activism, particularly in areas of social justice, poverty and human rights. The main methodological innovation of liberation theology is to approach theology from the viewpoint of the economically poor and oppressed. According to Jon Sobrino, S.J., the poor are a privileged channel of God's grace. According to Phillip Berryman, liberation theology is "an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor."
Emphasis is placed on those parts of the Bible where Jesus' mission is described not in terms of bringing peace (social order) but bringing a sword (social unrest), e.g. Matthew 10:34, Luke 22:35-38 and Matthew 26:51-52. These passages are interpreted as a call to arms to carry out what proponents see as a Christian mission of justice -- literally by some. Marxist concepts such as the doctrine of perpetual class struggle are also significant.
Liberation theology also emphasizes what proponents describe as individual self-actualization as part of God's divine purpose for humankind.
In addition to teaching at some Roman Catholic universities and seminaries, liberation theologians can often be found in Protestant-oriented schools. They tend to have considerable contact with the poor and interpret sacred scripture partly based on their experiences in this context -- what they label praxis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 6:31 PM
Bad link. try this:
http://tinyurl.com/yohzel
Posted by: Neil
| March 27, 2008 6:34 PM
Tomcantu --- And sometimes I wonder about thee...
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 27, 2008 6:59 PM
Susan Estrich: Changing the Minds of Super Delegates
Fox News ^ | March 26, 2008 | Susan Estrich
I had to laugh last weekend watching New Mexico Governor and superdelegate Bill Richardson, who was everywhre endorsing Barack Obama, taking a moralistic stance on superdelegates respecting the will of the people.
Would that be the people of his home state, who he will actually be “representing” at the convention, or the people of the 48 states that will be allowed to vote on the first Credentials Challenge, or the people of the 50 states who will be voting if Hillary ultimately has even one more vote than Obama on the question of seating Florida and Michigan?
High-minded moral questions about respecting the will of the people don’t usually lend themselves so easily to the multiple choice approach! Of course, the people of New Mexico handed Hillary Clinton a very comfortable victory, as did the people of Massachusetts, which isn’t, and shouldn’t be, stopping superdelegates Bill Richardson and Ted Kennedy from casting their votes for Barack Obama.
As the rules structure it, there is no “will of the people,” or at least not one strong enough to support a nominee. Unless you want to change the rules in the middle of the game, the fact is that it will be up to the superdelegates to do what they were put there to do: decide who is most electable, and cast their votes accordingly.
Hillary can point to her victories in the big states that a Democrat has to win in a general election, and raise the question whether, if Obama can’t win the support of Democrats in Ohio and Pennsylvania and New Jersey and California and Florida, how can he win a general election?
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It doesn't matter how you cornnuts vote cuz your vote ain't gunna count~~~~~
Posted by: LBH
| March 27, 2008 7:52 PM
Oh, dear. LBH's Zombie Chow is backing up on him again. Clear the room. I don't know what's funnier. Republicans who think that Americans will vote for 4 more years of Bush or the Thursday Night Funnies.
Part Uno:
"I'm a little upset. You know, Hillary Clinton was supposed to be our first guest tonight, but she got pinned down by sniper fire and was not able to come in."
--Jay Leno
"Who would've guessed that Hillary would have more war stories than John McCain?"
--Jay Leno
"Do you think this is a big deal? See, all candidates exaggerate. Remember when McCain ran in 2000? Remember that? He had to retract a claim that he had been under cannon fire from the Confederates."
--Jay Leno
"Hey, John McCain is moving up in the polls. In fact, he appears to be getting support from younger voters. How young you say? Well, yesterday, he was endorsed by Nancy Reagan. ... She said she's either going to endorse McCain or nobody. Well, that's got to make you feel good, huh?"
--Jay Leno
"And at a speech earlier today in Sterling, Virginia, President Bush said the economy is going through a rough patch, but he's confident things will work out. Unless you own a home, own a car, have stock, or you're over 65."
--Jay Leno
"Hey, Fred Thompson announced he's getting back into acting. Fred Thompson. Yeah, how about that? ... That's a pretty gutsy decision, considering his less than convincing portrayal of a presidential candidate."
--Jay Leno
"Crazy if Hillary's campaign is derailed by a comedian. It has happened before. When John McCain first ran for the Senate, he was called a liar by the most famous comedian of that time: Mark Twain."
--Craig Ferguson
Barack Obama called Hillary today to thank her for distracting everyone away from the whole crazy pastor thing. Obama's campaign is all about hope - hope Hillary keeps saying stupid crap and getting herself in trouble."
--Craig Ferguson
"Yesterday, kids all over America spent the day looking for Easter eggs. And today, their parents are in New York at Bear Stearns trying to find their nest eggs."
--Jay Leno
"In more serious news, big controversy last week after State Department officials looked at passport files of all three major candidates. Turns out, they got a hold of John McCain's Social Security number. Got his social security number. You know what it is? Three."
--Jay Leno
"Well, here's the big brouhaha. Former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson ... still thinks he's loyal to the Clinton family, despite endorsing Barack Obama. Loyal. He just endorsed Barack. Even Bill was more faithful to Hillary than that."
--Jay Leno
"Did you hear about this? Two State Department employees were fired -- this is a bit of a scandal -- because they were looking at Barack Obama's passport file. Not only that, but the same person was also looking at John McCain's Civil War records."
--David Letterman
"This week, John McCain received a warm welcome in Israel. He was in Israel. You know, he is hugely popular in Israel ever since he stood with the Jewish people against the pharaoh. They've never forgotten."
--Jay Leno
"President Bush's approval rating has reached a record low -- 31%. Wow. His popularity is so low now, on his Facebook page, he only has imaginary friends."
--Jay Leno
"Also, the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war. How romantic. Once again, they forgot to greet us with flowers."
--Bill Maher
"Speaking of old guys, how about that John McCain? I like John McCain. He looks like the guy who gets frisky with the new waitress at IHOP. ... He looks like the guy who watches his Cadillac go through the car wash. ... He looks like the guy in the supermarket yelling into his cell phone, 'I'm in aisle three, Marge. I can't find the brownie mix.'"
--David Letterman
STILL no hypertext tags?
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 27, 2008 11:10 PM
Wonderful. We still have template loading issues, we can't use tags.... Buuut, the comments are spell checked. LBH, I know you think your writing looks prettier with all those little red squiggly lines; but sheesh, man, learn to freaking spell someday. M'kay? M'kay.
TNF part II:
"The war is going into its sixth year with no end in sight, the economy, of course, is tanking, but what is America freaking out about right now? That apparently Barack Obama went to a church and heard his pastor criticize America, and just sat there. Everybody knows when you hear something your pastor says that you don't agree with, you get up there and you punch him in the fucking face ... and you beat him with the cross."
--Bill Maher
"Not only that, this Reverend Wright ... apparently he officiated when Obama got married. Wait 'til they find out the wedding band was the Wu-Tang Clan."
--Bill Maher
"The thing is, Republicans, of course, don't allow dangerous religious freaks to advise their campaigns. They NOMINATE them."
--Bill Maher
"President Bush spoke about the war in Iraq again today. This week marks the fifth anniversary of the beginning of the war. Bush said turning back now would harm all the gains we've made. Like oil $100 a barrel, worthless dollar, a recession. We can't afford to lose any of THAT!"
--Jay Leno
"And today, John McCain was in England, where he visited his birthplace, Stonehenge."
--Jay Leno
"Well, we have former presidential candidate John Edwards on the show tonight. He ran a terrific campaign. His No. 1 issue, of course, was the poor and those who live in poverty. Or, as we call them now, Bear Sterns stockholders."
--Jay Leno
"Hey, anybody see the new $5 bill" that just came out? The Treasury has taken steps to discourage counterfeiters, such as making it worth less than a dollar."
--Jay Leno
"Vice President Dick Cheney also in Iraq this week. Cheney told the Iraqi government that their leaders have to show some progress on both their domestic and economic fronts. And the Iraqis said to Cheney, 'Uh, you first.'"
--Jay Leno
"Interesting fact came out today on the new $5 bill. It turns out it used to be the old $10 bill."
--Jay Leno
"Today, Barack Obama criticized John McCain for mistakenly saying that Iran was sending aid to al Qaeda in Iraq, which is not true. And afterwards, President Bush told McCain, 'Don't worry about it. I didn't know that either.'"
--Jay Leno
"It could now be profitable for oil companies to start drilling for oil in Los Angeles again. And once again, I think President Bush doesn't really understand this issue. Like today, he announced the drawing of a contingency plan to invade the San Fernando Valley."
--Jay Leno
"How about that John McCain, ladies and gentlemen? Do you like John McCain? John McCain recently said that he supports George Bush's Iraq policy. I said, well, sure, slice me eight more years of that, will ya?"
--David Letterman
"I do like John McCain. He looks like the guy who is a regular at the paint store. 'What color is that? You gotta use that up. I'm looking for a Humbolt Blue.' ... He looks like a guy who walks by your house with his arthritic dog."
--David Letterman
"Are you fold excited about March Madness? You know, here's how it works. We go from 65 to 32, then to 16, and then to eight and -- well, no, no, that's -- those are Hillary Clinton's superdelegates."
--David Letterman
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 27, 2008 11:18 PM
"If the situation there is relatively calm in the fall, he will be able claim credit for having pushed policies that led to this relative calm. If not, well..."
So, maybe we need some actual "reporting" from in Iraq or will the story be the one fabricated by a lickspittle state department?
Maybe another glowing report from some sycophant wannabe politician general?
Sadly, I think the Iraqis know they can effect the outcome of our election. How much real power has the Bush administration surrendered to them?
UGH!
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 9:45 AM
The able and compelling John McCain has a solution to the bloody conflict in Iraq. Take a moment and compose yourself. It's a complicated situation that calls for a nuanced solution. We've been war five years and still have trouble understanding the Iraq society. All set? Ok, here goes: One of the things I would do if I were President would be to sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and say, "Stop the bullshit."
Posted by: Neil
| March 28, 2008 9:55 AM
Neil and Tomcantu, thanks for the info and the link. Seems that maybe some people do look at all sides of an issue. Unfortunately not the masses who make their opinion after listening to 30 seconds.
Seems that the Corn Post of yesterday, that Sadr is McCain man in Iraq has some truth. The only reason the surge has succeeded is that Sadr has held his side of the ceasefire. The Iraqi Army has attacked the Shiite militia in Basra and having met resistance has now been aided by Fighter Planes and Infantry of the US. This should lodge Sadr loose from his ceasefire and enable the "need" for the Surge to be evident. If Sadr can't uphold the ceasefire then we need to commit more troops to Iraq. And thank you Joe Lieberman for pointing out to McCain that the Iranians are supporting the Shiite Militia in Basra. Not to mention that Dan Rather showed a room full of US cash going to the tribal leaders in that same province; a room that would make Johnny Depp (Blow) blush. The sheiks can't be too happy, after all they are getting paid with the new $50 bill which looks too much like the old $100.
Th Bull is guarding the China Shop!
Posted by: geof01
| March 28, 2008 12:19 PM
Clinton's Belfast role draws criticism
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080328/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_northern_ireland;_ylt=AslC0giLEMWxNSm_ZrQ2vDhh24cA
BELFAST, Northern Ireland - Hillary Rodham Clinton cites her role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland as one of the top foreign policy credentials of her presidential bid.
Her critics point to an empty, wind-swept Belfast park — which Clinton a decade ago proclaimed would become Northern Ireland's first Catholic-Protestant playground — as evidence that her contribution as peacemaker was more symbolic than substantive.
"She was in charge of christening this wee corner (of the park) as some kind of peace playground. It never made any sense then, and there's nothing there today," said Brian Feeney, a Belfast political analyst, author and teacher. "Everything she did was for the optics."
Posted by: eyes_open
| March 28, 2008 12:40 PM
I heard Leahy is asking HRC to cool it and or step back?
Too busy to look much - I'll check later.
Also another superdelegate Casey (not sure) has come out for BHO. The rich folks letter to Pelosi has blown up int their faces. It is looking less and less like anything can help HRC.
Did I mention BHO is the nominee?
(I hope my smart mouth doesn't jixn anything - HA!)
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 12:56 PM
This ones too damn funny~ Obama blames ethic of greed and then goes to a fund raiser put on by the ethic of greed co.
Jeesh, doesn't buting a home under market value from a slum lord fall under ethic og greed? You cornnuts are soooo damn funny!!
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Obama blames 'ethic of greed' for economy
By JEANNE CUMMINGS | 3/27/08 6:54 PM
Obama called for greater transparency in the complex transactions that turned a weakness in the mortgage industry into a global economic event.
Photo: AP
Barack Obama went to New York Thursday and blamed lobbyists, greedy businessmen and complacent Washington politicians for creating “an ethic of greed” that led to today’s foreclosure crisis.
Not long after he left the stage, the Democratic presidential hopeful attended a fundraiser held by his campaign in a room in the Manhattan headquarters of Credit Suisse, one of the major investment companies caught up in the subprime lending mess.
While the fundraiser was not sponsored by the mortgage lender, Obama’s dual appearances highlight a challenge for all three of the remaining presidential candidates: convincing ordinary citizens they have the right formula for fixing the economy and enough independence from the nation’s financial mandarins to push it through Washington.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 12:57 PM
Today's Gallup Poll Daily tracking update finds Barack Obama with an eight percentage point advantage over Hillary Clinton (50% to 42%), this gives him a statistically significant advantage for the first time since before the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105814/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Back-Into-Lead-Democratic-Race.aspx
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More bad news for the HRC camp.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 1:49 PM
Today's Gallup Poll Daily tracking update finds Barack Obama with an eight percentage point advantage over Hillary Clinton (50% to 42%), this gives him a statistically significant advantage for the first time since before the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy.
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But wait, McSame leads them both in the same poll
More bad news for HRC & BHO
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 1:54 PM
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama with a two-point edge over Hillary Clinton in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. It’s Obama 46% Clinton 44%. While the “lead” is not statistically significant, it is the first time Obama has had any advantage over Clinton in a week.
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All these crazy Obama supporters?
What on earth can be happening? Didn't they get the scary black man - secret Muslim - info?
lol
(of course polls are just pollstrology)
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 1:56 PM
Whoops! Obama should have just looked at his own Pastor to find the ethic of greed!
Heck, no problem~ Obama is going to give the poor parishioners of his church a whopping $1000 tax cut when he becomes Prez.
That should make up for the millions he and his pastor has soaked from the community~~~~
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Obama’s Former Pastor Getting $1.6M Home in Retirement
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, March 27, 2008
The four- bedroom, 10,000-plus square foot home that Trinity United Church of Christ is building for Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
By Jeff Goldblatt
This was supposed to be the week that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. returned to the pulpit to preach for the first time since his anti-American sermons generated nationwide outrage and drew condemnation from his longtime parishioner, Barack Obama.
But, citing security concerns, Wright canceled his speaking engagements in Florida and Texas. A spokeswoman at his former church in Chicago said his schedule is pending.
A two-week FOX News investigation, however, has uncovered where Wright will be spending a good deal of his time in retirement, and it is a far cry from the impoverished Chicago streets where the preacher led his ministry for 36 years.
FOX News has uncovered documents that indicate Wright is about to move to a 10,340-square-foot, four-bedroom home in suburban Chicago, currently under construction in a gated community.
While it is not uncommon for an accomplished clergyman to live in luxury, Wright’s retirement residence is raising some questions.
“Some people think deals like this are hypocritical. Jeremiah Wright himself criticizes people from the pulpit for middle classism, for too much materialism,” said Andrew Walsh, Associate Director of the Leonard E. Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion in Public Life with Trinity College in Hartford, Conn.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 2:20 PM
Bush: Iraq is returning to normal (McClatchy)
Thursday: 225 Iraqis, 1 US Soldier, 3 US Contractors Killed; 538 Iraqis Wounded (antiwar.com)
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Did Commander Bunnypants finally tell something other than a lie?
Oh, the rash truthiness of it all.
So how's that surge really going? The only success would be a sustainable peace, sadly Bush has handed all the power to those he claims we are fighting?
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 2:20 PM
Sen. Leahy calls for Clinton to drop out
Ken Cedeno / Bloomberg News
Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, gestures prior to a committee hearing in Washington, D.C., Jan. 30, 2008.
The Vermont senator, a prominent superdelegate, says that 'there is no way' Hillary Clinton can win enough delegates to take the Democratic presidential nomination from Barack Obama.
By Johanna Neuman, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
10:45 AM PDT, March 28, 2008
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) today called on Hillary Rodham Clinton to drop out of the presidential race, saying there is no way the New York senator can wrest the nomination from her rival Barack Obama.
"There is no way that Sen. Clinton is going to win enough delegates to get the nomination," Leahy, an Obama supporter, said in an interview with Vermont Public Radio this morning. "She ought to withdraw, and she ought to be backing Sen. Obama."
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Did I mention BHO is the nominee?
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 2:25 PM
Casey snubs Clinton, family feud continues
Posted by Sasha Issenberg March 28, 2008 01:20 PM
PITTSBURGH -- Senator Bob Casey, a champion of the working-class Catholic voters at the core of Hillary Clinton's Pennsylvania coalition, bypassed Clinton to endorse Barack Obama today, the latest swipe between two warring dynasties whose battles have defined the Democratic party's search for a modern identity.
"This is about all of us, of all ages, across this state and across America," Casey said at a rally at an auditorium here, where he attributed his endorsement to the enthusiasm Obama's candidacy has generated among Casey's four daughters.
Casey's endorsement not only assuaged his children but avenged slights against his father -- a popular two-term governor Pennsylvania -- at the hands of Bill Clinton, with whom he feuded throughout the 1990s as the two emerged as figureheads for competing wings of a party in transition.
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Baracks campaign will return to the generational thing and that will be the end of the crypt keeper.
I wonder how the M$M will portray the race to keep it interesting?
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 2:28 PM
Thursday: 225 Iraqis, 1 US Soldier, 3 US Contractors Killed; 538 Iraqis Wounded (antiwar.com)
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The only time you cornnuts get excited about Iraq is when people die~ sick
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 2:30 PM
Sen. Leahy calls for Clinton to drop out
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Too funny, as if leaky Leahy has any pull over Clinton, Leahy is a tool.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 2:31 PM
Whether the Casey endorsement will have an effect on the polls remains to be seen. Hillary Clinton has a double-digit lead over Obama in most Pennsylvania polls.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 2:38 PM
Damn,
Looks like Obama did pretty good in the ol Bush economy:
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Taxes: Obamas prospered as he soared
By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 3/25/08 7:16 PM EST Text Size:
In 2005, Obama’s first year in the Senate, the Obamas enjoyed their most lucrative year.
Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, pulled in $3.9 million from 2000 through 2006, according to tax returns posted Tuesday on his presidential campaign’s website.
They gave $148,000 to charity in that span, including $27,500 to Trinity United Church of Christ when the polarizing Rev. Jeremiah Wright was leading the congregation.
Curiously, the Obamas checked the box to set aside $3 for the presidential public financing system on their taxes between 2000 through 2004, but they did not do so in 2005 or 2006. Barack Obama, who has positioned himself as a champion for reducing the role of money in politics, has been criticized for backing away from his commitment to participate in the program as a presidential candidate.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 2:42 PM
Obama's Sweeping Foreign Policy Critique
[…]
Obama's foreign-policy advisers are thrilled at the prospect of facing McCain. Had the GOP nomination gone to Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee, politicians who don't particularly care about foreign policy, an Obama victory would not provide a mandate for the sweeping foreign-affairs overhaul his campaign proposes. November's election could be, for the first time in a very long time, a choice between two radically different visions of U.S. global engagement. "We want to have this debate with John McCain," a close Obama adviser says. "[Obama] will offer this clear contrast."
From alternet
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I can't wait for the contrasts that will be displayed.
Maybe the American people will be offered a real choice on considerable issues. The Iraqi occupation is an issue people are concerned about.
BHO speaks past all the slugs and the slime machine wallowing in the mire. The politics of personal destruction is so last cycle.
BHO will bring change - the Reich-wingnuttia will bring the retired pastor? I think they lose on the merits.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 3:14 PM
BHO will talk about the American economy, Foreign policy, Energy, Jobs, Healthcare.
With what can the dead-man-walking party counter?
Petty personal attacks, his ex retired pastor, his religion, his sex life, his youthful drug use.
I think more people care about the issues but I might be off base.
Time will tell, eh?
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 3:20 PM
Bush and McCain’s Shared Foreign Policy Approach
[...]
McCain is a pure neoconservative in exactly the way that Bush and Cheney are, which is exactly why David Brooks, and like-minded ideologues like Bill Kristol, swoon over McCain’s foreign policy “principles.” That’s fine. Brooks is a neoconservative and it’s thus perfectly natural that he would find a neoconservative foreign policy speech to be filled with wisdom and insight. But to pretend that it’s some grand departure from the Bush/Cheney approach is pure deceit.
Just as was true for Bush in 2000, McCain is running at a time when the Republican brand is sullied (in 2000 because of the ugly Gingrich/impeachment crusades and in 2008 because of the destructive Bush years). Thus, McCain is being politically marketed in exactly the same way that Bush the presidential candidate was (he’s a uniter not divider; a new kind of Republican; you always know where he stands; he’s a conservative who deviates from dogma and appeals to Democrats; he transcends partisanship; we’re going to be a more humble nation, etc. etc.). It’s exactly the same wrapping. And the media believed all of that about Bush and they now believe it all about McCain.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/27/7948/
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Hard to sell the same old retreads to a public soured on the current situation.
76% of those polled want a change from the current policies - no party consideration in that regard even the thoughtful and intelligent republicans know the current policies have failed (miserably)
Maybe McSame and the Reich-wingnuttia will convince the American people that Obama is a secret Muslim, or whatnot.
I doubt it.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 3:41 PM
It's the Deregulation, Stupid
[...]
Speaking at Cooper Union in New York City on Thursday, Barack Obama went where few Democrats have dared to go in the past quarter-century: He made a case for more regulation. As part of a speech on his economic platform, Obama depicted the current economic crisis as a consequences of deregulation in the financial sector. "Our free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it," he said. "Unfortunately, instead of establishing a 21st century regulatory framework, we simply dismantled the old one—aided by a legal but corrupt bargain in which campaign money all too often shaped policy and watered down oversight."
(from MoJo)
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BHO is speaking past the BS - I hope he keeps it up!
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 3:43 PM
BHO will talk about the American economy, Foreign policy, Energy, Jobs, Healthcare.
With what can the dead-man-walking party counter?
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While Obama is talking about foriegn policy, McSame is meeting with world leaders and showing Presidential leadership. How foriegn leaders or countries for that matter has Obama been to?
American economy- raise taxes, increase government regulation (even though they can't regulate toys or tainted food from China)
Oh but he'll give corrnuts a $1000 tax break- whoop te do! Pandonial spends more than that in a year on toilet paper.
The more he talks about issues the less he seems to be qualified~~
If you Cornnuts had any brains you would be shilling for Hillary.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 5:09 PM
Why the Administration Won't Define Success in Iraq
Here's the blunt truth of it, though. As we at VoteVets.org laid out in our "State of the Wars, Military and Veterans" report, true progress in Iraq cannot be made until the Mahdi Army and Muqtada al-Sadr are convinced to give up their arms and become a willing and active partner for peace. As we've seen this week, when the Mahdi Army wants to unleash mass violence, they can do it. Then they'll lay low, rebuild, and launch new attacks. And that cycle will continue forever, until there is a settlement.
That is not an American military problem -- it is an Iraqi political and diplomatic problem. Resolution of this problem was supposed to be a by-product of the surge (though the White House refused to say that would be the end-state of the surge, and now I know why). The surge was supposed to give some time and space to the Iraqi government to confront these tough internal political issues. Yet, as we've seen, it has done anything but that.
I would say that's proof that the surge has failed.
But, of course, I prefer to judge success and failure on pesky little things like metrics. The White House spin machine was wily enough to not concern themselves with petty things like that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/why-the-administration-wo_b_93843.html
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The current administration cann't define success because they have no idea how to end the occupation.
Pretty simple that.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 5:15 PM
The current administration cann't define success because they have no idea how to end the occupation.
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According to Samantha Power niether does Obama~~
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 6:24 PM
Obama faces prejudice on all sides
Financial Times ^ | 3/28/08 | Edward Luce
Barack Obama has a problem. Nearly a quarter of Democrats who hold a negative view of him believe he is a Muslim, according to a poll published by Pew Research on Thursday. Yet most Democrats who think negatively of Mr Obama also disapprove of his link to Jeremiah Wright, the pastor who introduced him to Christianity two decades ago.
Ten days after he delivered what many described as a historic speech on race, Mr Obama’s relationship with the black community still remains an issue. Although Hillary Clinton has largely avoided the topic – other than to say that she would not have chosen Mr Wright as her pastor – critics on the right have signalled it will be given a fuller airing in the general election if Mr Obama is the nominee.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 6:28 PM
"White Man's Greed" Obama's very first service at Wright's church was...controversial
Slate ^ | March 28, 2008 | Mickey Kaus
On his radio show yesterday, Hugh Hewitt played excerpts of Barack Obama reading from his autobiography, Dreams of My Father. In one, Obama remembers a sermon by Rev. Jeremiah Wright:
[T]he pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting title Hope.
"The painting depicts a harpist," Revernd Wright explained, "a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountaintop. Untill you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.
It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ... That's the world! On which hope sits."
And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpesville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. ... [E.A.]
Sounds ... controversial! Keep in mind: a) Obama isn't disapproving of this sermon. In the book he weeps at the end of it; b) Demonstrating that at least some blaming of "white greed" for the world's sins--which Obama now criticizes-- isn't an exceptional topic for Rev. Wright in a few wacky sermons ("the five dumbest things") that Obama may or may not have missed.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 6:30 PM
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity": Martin Luther King, Jr.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 7:04 PM
Krugman On Mortgage Plans: Obama "Cautious," Clinton "Bold And Progressive"
New York Times | March 28, 2008 09:46 AM
Barack Obama's speech on the economy on Thursday followed the cautious pattern of his earlier statements on economic issues.
I was pleased that Mr. Obama came out strongly for broader financial regulation, which might help avert future crises. But his proposals for aid to the victims of the current crisis, though significant, are less sweeping than Mrs. Clinton's: he wants to nudge private lenders into restructuring mortgages rather than having the government simply step in and get the job done.
Mr. Obama also continues to make permanent tax cuts -- middle-class tax cuts, to be sure -- a centerpiece of his economic plan. It's not clear how he would pay both for these tax cuts and for initiatives like health care reform, so his tax-cut promises raise questions about how determined he really is to pursue a strongly progressive agenda.
All in all, the candidates' positions on the mortgage crisis tell the same tale as their positions on health care: a tale that is seriously at odds with the way they're often portrayed. ...
Mrs. Clinton, we're assured by sources right and left, tortures puppies and eats babies. But her policy proposals continue to be surprisingly bold and progressive.
Finally, Mr. Obama is widely portrayed, not least by himself, as a transformational figure who will usher in a new era. But his actual policy proposals, though liberal, tend to be cautious and relatively orthodox.
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Gee, what's a good liberal to do when the so called best liberal economist is endorsing Hillary and trashing Obama on the economy?
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 7:10 PM
Group: Martin Luther King Was a Republican
Monday, March 24, 2008 2:59 PM
By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size
The National Black Republican Association is promoting its nationwide educational campaign by erecting a billboard announcing “Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican.”
The billboard stands in Orangeburg, S.C., near an Interstate 26 exit that has a daily traffic count of 60,000 vehicles.
“The billboard is located at a busy intersection … and it is attracting a lot of attention,” said NBRA Chairman Frances Rice in a statement. “We welcome the opportunity to explain why Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican.
“Of interest is the fact that Orangeburg is the hometown of black Democrat Jim Clyburn who is the majority whip for the U.S. House of Representatives. We hope he appreciates our informing his black constituents about their civil rights history.”
The NBRA states on its Web site: “It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks.
“And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.”
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 7:14 PM
Louis Farrakhan Biography (1933– )
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Black Muslim leader. Born Louis Eugene Walcott on May 11, 1933 in the Bronx, New York. He grew up in Roxbury, Massachusetts, and was converted to the Nation of Islam by Malcolm X. Following Malcolm X's defection (1963–4), Farrakhan became the national representative for Elijah Muhammad.
When Elijah Muhammad's son allowed whites to join the movement (after 1975), Farrakhan split away and formed a revitalized movement, Final Call to the Nation of Islam. An eloquent and persuasive speaker, he continued to work for black separatism and black economic power. Although he denied being anti-white or anti-Semitic, he often employed an abrasive rhetoric that alienated such groups, as when he made derogatory statements about Jews during the 1984 presidential primaries on behalf of Reverend Jesse Jackson.
In the 1990s, however, Farrakhan began to soften his message and image and, reviving a talent he had as a young man, even began to play the violin in classical concerts to show that he was not totally opposed to whites and their culture.In 1995, along with other prominent black leaders such as Al Sharpton and
Barack Obama,
Farrakhan helped lead the Million Man March on Washington. A second march, called the Millions More Movement, took place in 2005.
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 7:19 PM
Obama Talks Economy, But Takes Subprime Companies Money
NoQuarter ^ | March 27, 2008 |
Here’s the kicker sentence from Clinton policy director Neera Tanden’s press release below, followed by a list of the top 10 issuers of subprime loans Obama has taken money from: - Today, Senator Obama gives an economy speech followed by a fundraiser at - you guessed it - one of the top 10 issuers of subprime loans in America, Credit Suisse. In fact, Senator Obama has taken more money from the top 10 issuers of subprime loans than BOTH Senator Clinton and Senator McCain..
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How can you cornnuts justify this one?
Posted by: LBH
| March 28, 2008 7:23 PM
A Pew Research Center News Interest Index survey earlier in March found that 79% of the general public had heard rumors that Obama is Muslim, and 38% had heard “a lot” about this. The current survey finds that most voters have no misconceptions about Obama’s religious beliefs – 53% say that he is Christian. But one in ten believes Barack Obama is Muslim. Roughly a third (34%) say they don’t know what his religious beliefs are, though 9% say the reason they don’t know is that they’ve heard different things about his religion, not that they haven’t heard about it.
Notably, the impression that Obama is Muslim crosses party lines: 14% of Republicans, 10% of Democrats and 8% of independents think he is Muslim. Within both parties, ideology is a major factor: 16% of conservative Republicans believe Obama is Muslim, compared with 9% of moderates and liberals. And 13% of conservative and moderate Democrats believe Obama is Muslim, compared with just 5% of liberal Democrats.
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices."
~William James (1842 - 1910)
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 10:11 PM
Getting Mrs. Clinton
[...]
What, really, is Mrs. Clinton doing? She is having the worst case of cognitive dissonance in the history of modern politics. She cannot come up with a credible, realistic path to the nomination. She can't trace the line from "this moment's difficulties" to "my triumphant end." But she cannot admit to herself that she can lose. Because Clintons don't lose. She can't figure out how to win, and she can't accept the idea of not winning. She cannot accept that this nobody from nowhere could have beaten her, quietly and silently, every day. (She cannot accept that she still doesn't know how he did it!)
She is concussed. But she is a scrapper, a fighter, and she's doing what she knows how to do: scrap and fight. Only harder. So that she ups the ante every day. She helped Ireland achieve peace. She tried to stop Nafta. She's been a leader for 35 years. She landed in Bosnia under siege and bravely dodged bullets. It was as if she'd watched the movie "Wag the Dog," with its fake footage of a terrified refugee woman running frantically from mortar fire, and found it not a cautionary tale about manipulation and politics, but an inspiration.
http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 10:13 PM
New Poll Weakens Clinton Supporters' Electoral College Argument (US News & World report)
A new poll in California shows more voters now have a positive view of Obama despite Clinton's Super Tuesday win in the state
[...]
"There's been a shift, no question about it," says Jaime Regalado, executive director of the Edmund "Pat" Brown Institute of Public Affairs at Cal State University-Los Angeles. "A lot of Democrats, who were once supporters of Hillary's—not bedrock supporters but voted for her on February 5—now they're leaving her."
It's worth noting, experts say, that the poll was conducted during the week of March 11, one of the roughest stretches Obama has experienced in his campaign, as he faced a barrage of questions about race and his relationship with his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. In spite of all the bad publicity, California voters still seem to be moving toward him—or at least away from Clinton. "That makes it all the more remarkable," says Regalado.
The Clinton campaign can't be blamed for trying to swing for the electoral fences, analysts say, but the challenges it faces appear to be growing ever more formidable, even, it seems, in some of the states she's already won. "People are getting tired of the contentiousness of the campaign," says Regalado. "Almost nobody except for Clinton supporters and Clinton herself wants to see this play out all the way into August."
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 10:36 PM
The old ways are dead. And you need people around you who concur. That means hanging out more with the creative people, the freaks, the real visionaries, than you're already doing. Thinking more about what their needs are, and responding accordingly. Avoid the dullards; avoid the folk who play it safe. They can't help you any more. Their stability model no longer offers that much stability. They are extinct, they are extinction.
~ Hugh Macleod, How To Be Creative: 16. The world is changing. , 08-22-04
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 11:08 PM
Is Hillary broke?
Scoop du jour? Sneed hears major money problems in the Clinton camp may soon become a coroner knocking on her campaign door.
• To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails.
• Translation: "It won't necessarily be politics which may force her out of the race," said a top Dem source. "There is no hanky panky going on, but Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive . . . and word is she may not be able to climb out of the money hole."
• The buckshot: "I think it's safe to say Hillary's not going to dip into her pocket again," the source added. "And if her employees start taking pay cuts while chasing the dream . . . it's usually the beginning of the body becoming totally cold."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article
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Can money really mean more than votes? That needs to change. If anybody has to drop out for a lack of money the system is broken. Romney couldn't buy it - although he might get the booby prize. Ron Paul raised millions and never broke five percent so the is a sanity factor but . . .
Maybe it is a polite way for her supporters to drop a hint.
Posted by: capt
| March 28, 2008 11:52 PM
"Osaka! Stop throwing the sea cucumbers!"
Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker
| March 29, 2008 3:36 AM
Um that's not a sea cucumber. Then again I'm not Osaka!
HA!
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 9:41 AM
You know, I tried coming back to the comments and I have posted a few recently, but this seems to be just a Punch and Judy show and adds no real dialogue.
There are bits and pieces or thoughtful commentary but for the most part it seem to be LBH spewing talking points from NewsMax and Fox and counter attacks by Capt., Neil & Panemoniac. I fell into that mold quickly enough myself.
This kind of banter does not further the debate on any of the issues in any kind of constructive way. Too bad.
Posted by: flan
| March 29, 2008 9:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4OOCReeLWo
Posted by: Neil
| March 29, 2008 10:03 AM
"counter attacks by Capt"
No counters from me, I don't even read the troll posts.
I just post what I think is interesting and whatnot.
No reason to read the silly posts of a juvenile poster that thinks name calling is political discourse.
The troll has posted before that he is not interested in being taken seriously - I take him at his word and do not.
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 11:21 AM
Capt. I stand corrected. Neil and Pandemoniac seem to be the ones who trade jibes back and forth the most. The sentiment remains the same on my part in any case.
The articles you refer to in your posts are interesting and I have read most of them through my own independent reading of newspapers and websites, but sometimes I do get a lead from you that I hadn't seen before. The hard thing is that I have to scroll past so much of the nonsense that it has really turned me off of the comments section on this website.
David, If you are reading this...You know I love your work and we go way back, but I really can't deal with the comments here. It gets pretty juvenile at times. I got caught up in it a long time ago and when you lost your ability to have comments, it was actually kind of a nice break. Now that you have comments again, I started reading them but will probably not do that anymore because of what I have already said above. Too bad,
Posted by: flan
| March 29, 2008 12:44 PM
flan,
There will be plenty of time to discuss issues between now and November. Now it is strictly in a "process" mode, as one half of the final debate has not been completely determined, and the two candidates for the Democrats have policies that are similar if not identical in many instances.
Hence, the only thing to discuss right now is "process" for the Democrats. I am keeping my libertarian/independent powder dry for the pounding I know I will be taking here in the coming days.
I will say that the discourse here seems manifestly more civil than on other sites. I will never understand how people can discuss/debate issues when hurling personal insults at one another. There are enough insults to hurl, respectfully, at the candidates.
Tom
Posted by: Tomcantu
| March 29, 2008 1:58 PM
Worms, Trojans and Clinton
[...]
Barack Obama a Muslim or a Black Extremist? Doesn’t matter to Clinton, because she’s right in the middle of either position, like any good moderate should be.
This is why Hillary has lost the nomination, and it is why she deserved to lose the nomination. This is triangulation, the art of creating two extremes and then appearing moderate, while watching the worm work its way through the press slowly, subtly, first slowing them down a bit before the payload hits, and they go off, shredding and melting down any fact while feeding the ignorance of the electorate lapping at the Limbaugh trough.
All of this goes to prove that Samantha Power was right. Hillary Clinton is a monster. Or perhaps more to my metaphor, malware.
http://politics.drumsnwhistles.com/2008/03/worms-trojans-and-clinton/
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Wow, this does nothing to improve my opinion of HRC.
At some point it all seems so over the top.
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 2:04 PM
"There are enough insults to hurl, respectfully, at the candidates."
I agree - all politicians and candidates make me POed on some issues and they all have negatives (some more than others)
I still have a preference for BHO - handy as he is also the most likely candidate.
BHO has never been my dream candidate but his temperment seems superior to the others. That and he is a very smart guy - that will be a new experience.
HA!
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 2:10 PM
Gallup: Second straight 'statistically significant' lead for Obama
A quick update for poll junkies:
"For the second consecutive Gallup Poll Daily tracking report, Barack Obama holds a statistically significant lead over Hillary Clinton in national Democratic preferences for the nomination, 50% to 43%."
Yesterday, Obama had an 8 percentage point advantage.
The Gallup folks say their latest survey was of "1,220 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters" and has a margin of error on each result of +/- 3 percentage points.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/gallup-second-s.html
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 5:39 PM
Who is the Iraqi Army?
[...]
The press keeps talking about how they blew it in the lead up to the war, but then they act like they have learned nothing from their mistakes. One of the principal problems before the war was that the media unquestioningly accepted government suppositions as if they were true -- which is exactly what they're doing now.
These basic questions must be answered: Who are we really fighting? What is their goal? Who is on our side? What is their goal? And, oh yeah, what is our goal? Why are we backing one militia over another and how does that serve American interests? And how is any of this leading to "victory" in Iraq? And the one no one bothers to ask anymore - what the hell does victory in Iraq really mean?
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/80649/
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 6:22 PM
Is the Clinton Dynasty crumbling?
The annual convention of the Young Democrats of North Carolina (YDNC) scheduled for this weekend, appears as if it will be a vortex of political intrigue. With appearances by John Edwards, Chelsea Clinton and James Carville - there is a thinly disguised agenda operating at some level to create the impression of a pending endorsement of Senator Clinton by former Senator Edwards. However, the scene behind the arras is much more convoluted.
In actual point of fact, Senator Hillary Clinton’s bold campaign to become the first woman to be nominated for the presidency by a major party has already failed. The arithmetic of the nomination procedure no longer supports her endgame strategy. The Clinton campaign could be charitably described as the “walking wounded,” but the prognosis is actually quite grave. The political wounds Senator Clinton has sustained render her campaign untenable. The bottom line is now crystal clear: Senator Clinton is no longer viable as a presidential candidate.
The only circumstance in which the situation could be reversed to her benefit would be the retirement or disappearance of Senator Barack Obama. In other words, the Clinton campaign is now in the posture of political parties in states ruled by warlords, dictators and military juntas. Her opponent has won the electoral contest, so now they are hoping for an unpredictable intervention of fate – or force.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8471
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 6:31 PM
Al-Sadr: I Am in Control of Militia
By HAMZA HENDAWI
BAGHDAD (AP) — A feisty Muqtada al-Sadr, making his first public appearance since May, said in a TV interview aired Saturday that he was in almost total control of the Mahdi Army and that the "liberation" of Iraq was his militia's chief goal.
The radical Shiite cleric also said the impact of the U.S. presence on Iraq was more negative than that of Saddam Hussein's Baath party, ousted in the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.
Al-Sadr alleged that the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a fellow Shiite, was as "distant" from the people of Iraq as Saddam's Sunni-led regime. The government, he said, was "looking after its own interests, not those of the people."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jNhVbwmjixMs2NciVz_S_cCCgk2AD8VNBMO82
Posted by: capt
| March 29, 2008 7:42 PM
I posted a while back that experts were saying the reduction in violence had more to do with the ceasfire by the Mahdi Army. It is sad to be proven right by recent events. It was also sad to see on the Frontline special we could have but passed up the chance to take out Muqtada al-Sadr before he became a power player in Iraq.
Posted by: eyes_open
| March 30, 2008 6:58 PM
A very sad state of affairs - some predictions we hope never come true but like writing on the wall the future begs to be read.
Posted by: capt
| March 30, 2008 7:31 PM
Texas
By Eli Saslow
For all of you Trail readers who, desperate for a Texas caucus update, have been frantically hitting your browser's refresh button for the last 26 days, this is your moment: In district conventions held across the state last weekend, Obama appears to have secured about 60 percent of the state's 67 caucus delegates. If that total holds, he might actually end up with more pledged delegates from Texas than Hillary Clinton, who won the March 4 primary by four delegates, 65 to 61, and has trumpeted that win ever since.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/30/at_last_a_caucus_result_of_sor.html
Posted by: capt
| March 30, 2008 8:51 PM
Hillary Clinton's Iraq Lies
by Stephen Zunes
[...]
It's ironic that Clinton, in a desperate effort to cover up for her support for the war and her lies to justify it, would belittle Obama's accurate and prescient understanding that invading Iraq was wrong. Back in October 2002, Obama publicly acknowledged that "Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors" and that "even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences." He also recognized that "an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda." That same month in Washington, however, Clinton was insisting incorrectly that Iraq was such a dire threat to U.S. national security that it required her, "in the best interests of our nation," to vote to authorize the invasion.
Furthermore, Obama did a lot more than give a speech: he gave interviews, lobbied members of Congress, and made a series of other statements in which he warned of the violent sectarian and ethnic divisions which could emerge following a U.S. invasion and occupation, the risks of a long-term U.S. military commitment, and the dangerous precedent of giving a carte blanche for a pre-emptive war.
http://www.antiwar.com/zunes/?articleid=12601
Posted by: capt
| March 30, 2008 9:09 PM
Obama win appears big in Texas delegate battle
Barrack Obama appeared to have scored a clear victory over Hillary Clinton on Saturday in the second step of Texas' multi-tiered process for selecting its delegates to the Democratic National Convention. With results available from about half of the district conventions held statewide, the Associated Press reported that Obama had won 59 percent of the delegates headed to the state party's June convention to Clinton’s 41 percent. That translates into 1,858 delegates for Obama and 1,270 for Clinton.
That result made it likely that when the delegate selection process is finally completed, Obama will have more Texas delegates to the national convention than Clinton, despite Clinton's having won the March 4 primary vote 51 to 47 percent. Under Texas' delegate selection process, 67 of its 206 delegates are selected by the June state party convention.
Tens of thousands of Texas Democrats turned out for Saturday's district conventions in a chaotic day in which many of the meetings in Texas' large cities lasted late into the night. Some delegates — confused and frustrated by hours-long delays, disorder and disorganization — gave up on the process and left, still not sure if their vote counted. “Please move a bit faster,” urged delegate Whitney Larkins, who attended the largest senatorial district in Fort Worth gathered at the Will Rogers Coliseum. “Have some consideration. Think about those of us who took time out of our lives to participate in this.”
Read the full story at star-telegram.com.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/32023.html
Posted by: capt
| March 30, 2008 9:22 PM
Mental midget here again,
what do we know about the Kennedy connection and BHO's father?
yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| March 30, 2008 11:56 PM
I found what I was looking for you don't need to feel compelled to answer my question. Thanks anyway.
Yo soy un demócrata amarillo del perro.
Yo soy Hussein Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| March 31, 2008 12:26 AM
LIEBERMAN is full of crap. Here he is trying to downplay his own bullshit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZUHhwRUSXg
Posted by: Neil
| March 31, 2008 1:37 AM
"Horsedooty" would be a great name for a rock band. :)
Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker
| March 31, 2008 1:57 AM
As for Lieberman, he can bend up and smell my anal vapor.
[OK, who gets that reference?] :)
Posted by: Ivory Bill Woodpecker
| March 31, 2008 3:29 AM
I found what I was looking for
*****
do share, I never heard anything about the Kennedy's and BHO Sr.?
Posted by: capt
| March 31, 2008 7:03 AM
Oh, noooo. Obama can't get his groove back.
March 30 Gallup -- Obama 52%, Clinton 42%
And with FauxNews feeding Tom a 24 hour flow of Anti-Wright hogwash, Gramps McBush leads Obama by what? 2 points? 3? Gramps will fall like a rock once HRC is banished back to NY and the MSM starts to focus in on his lies and the big money he takes from lobbyists to do their bidding.
Run for the hillllls! Obama can't get his groove back.
Huh.
Larry.
Us!
Aaaand we STILL got no tags. WTF??
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 31, 2008 7:14 AM
Oh, noooo. Obama can't get his groove back, Tom.
Mar 27 Pew Obama 49%, Clinton 39%
Mar 27 Pew -- Obama (D) 49%, McCain (R) 43%
Dear Lord, what will the Dems do while they're picking up Denny Hastert's old seat running wild-eyed liberals? What will they do with all Freshman Democrats in congress outraising their Republican challengers 4 to 1 and up to 10 to 1? And with the NRCC under investigation by the FBI? And with NOBODY willing to challenge Democrats in the Senate and Dems gaining a seat in VA?
Oh, nooooo. Democrats are going to have a huge advantage in numbers in Congress. Run, folks, while you still have a chance. LOL.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 31, 2008 7:20 AM
What? Obama continues to lead by double digits 15-20 points in NC? How did he do that without getting his groove back?
PA rASSmussen polls from RCP
Date_________BO___HRC
03/24 - 03/24___49___39___Clinton +10.0
03/12 - 03/12___51___38___Clinton +13.0
03/05 - 03/05___52___37___Clinton +15.0
What? HRC's lead in PA is shrinking? Can you imagine what would happen if Barry actually got his groove back? He'd crush her. Poor thing. I do sincerely hope that Barry gets his groove back soon. He can't win if he doesn't.
That was funny, Tom. I'll give you that much.
And STILL hypertext tags are stripped from comments. You're right Flan the old CornBlog was faaar superior to this one. You could link elegantly in-line and bold and italicize all the cool stuff we wrote. Those were the days.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 31, 2008 7:29 AM
This kind of banter does not further the debate on any of the issues in any kind of constructive way. Too bad.
Posted by: flan March 29, 2008 9:59 AM
I don't have the time to go back and find precise quotes right now; but I can do it later. You must be thinking of a different blog than I am. I remember the Tims copying and pasting (LBH-style) all of the nonsense that they read on FreeRep. and from NewsMacks and other idiotic sites. They perpetuated the lies and we shot them down. They called us losers, traitors and they called me a spic and a wetback. And I have always asked Mr. Corn NOT to ban these Dingbats just so that it would remain an indictment of the DMW party. This is what remains of them. This is what Mr. 20% has reduced them to.
Like I said, I could go back and link all of those wonderful bits of what you call "debate," but I don't really see the point. Do you remember the one that Hajji called the Extra-Bitchy Tim? I actually miss him.
That IS the CornBlog, that WAS the CornBlog and EVER WILL BE the CornBlog.
Time to make the donuts.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 31, 2008 7:37 AM
Gallup: Obama lead over Clinton largest this year
UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. -- Barack Obama now has a 10-percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton in a national tracking poll conducted by Gallup, the largest lead he has posted in the poll this year.
Gallup reported Obama now leads among Democrats 52 percent against 42 percent for Hillary Clinton, the third day in a row he has held a statistically significant lead against Clinton in the poll.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/gallup_obama_lead_over_clinton.html
Posted by: capt
| March 31, 2008 9:01 AM
Keith Olbermann's Commander-in-Chief Test [VIDEO]
Well, it's not a Special Comment, and with one possible exception, I don't think it's particularly nasty towards one side more than the other in the current Democratic Endlessness.
But, if like me, you've recently been called out by Governor Ed Rendell or James Carville, you probably need a few yucks.
So tonight when the show celebrates its 5th Anniversary with our special on NBC, we will be laying on the network folks, four minutes' worth of our exclusive "discovery" of the actual "Commander-In-Chief Threshold Test," the existence of which was revealed by Senator Clinton and Mr. Wolfson earlier in the month.
That's right: if you hear any small explosions or "thunk"-like sounds just after sunset, that may be one of your neighbors exposed to this kind of stuff for the first time, since it's on real tee-vee.
So you know what's coming: we have a video package illustrating the seventeen questions on the test.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/80790/
Posted by: capt
| March 31, 2008 11:15 AM
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