Clinton's Over-the-Top, Ridiculous, Impossible-To-Justify Ken Starr Ploy--Will It Work?

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Let me stipulate that the Clinton campaign and the Obama campaign, like all campaigns, spin and do their best to present facts and assertions in the manner most advantageous to their candidates. But so far in the Democratic presidential contest, the Clintonites have pushed the envelope of spin further than the Obama crew. Their Ken Starr attack is the latest proof of this.

In the days leading up to the March 4 primaries, Clinton aides repeatedly blasted Barack Obama for his ties to Tony Rezko, a developer whose corruption trial began this week. They constantly prodded journalists to grill Obama about Rezko. Obama has not been accused of anything improper in the Rezko affair, except becoming involved in a personal real estate transaction with Rezko when Rezko was already under investigation. But his relationship with Rezko is certainly fair game for reporters, even if the Clinton spinners are suggesting Obama engaged in significant wrongdoing without being able to back up such allegations.

Even though Rezko was a prominent part of Hillary Clinton's "kitchen sink" attack on Obama before March 4, Clinton aides fiercely maintain that questions about Clinton's personal finances are out of bounds. Yesterday, her campaign hurled the ultimate insult at the Obama camp, complaining that it "mimics Ken Starr," the onetime independent counsel who holds a rather high spot on Democrats' list of Most Hated Republicans of All Time.

What caused the Clinton campaign to throw this ultimate insult at Obama? The Obama campaign, following the losses in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, raised the issue of Clinton's missing tax returns. For months, she has refused to release her tax returns. At one point, she said she would only make the records public if she were to become her party's nominee. Now her campaign's position is that the returns will be released sometime around April 15. Her tax returns could answer some intriguing questions about her husband's sources of incomes. (For example, is Bill Clinton receiving money from foreign individuals or entities that would be quite happy to have a First Lad in the White House?) While other past and present Democratic candidates (including Obama) have released their returns, HRC has been overly--some might say, suspiciously--reticent. She even recently complained she was too busy to do so. (She doesn't have an accountant?)

There is nothing wrong with the Obama crew making a fuss about this. (In the past, Clinton complained about a political rival who was not forthcoming on this front.) Still, the Clinton crowd responded with the over-the-top Starr comparison. It was an obvious ploy to immunize Clinton from any and all criticism from the Obama camp: Asking questions about the Clinton's business dealing. See? He's just as bad as that nasty Ken Starr.

How can the Clintonites justify tossing questions about Rezko at Obama but decrying his questions about her tax returns, equating his queries with Ken Starr's inquisition into Whitewater and Monicagate? Well, they don't have to justify this absurd contradiction. They can just keep spinning, throwing what they can at Obama and crying foul when anything is tossed their way. Presenting an honest, logical, fair, and consistent argument is not their aim; winning is.

    Comments

  1. "Will It Work?"

    Well, let's hope it doesn't.

    The fact that the question can be asked with a straight face is just sad.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 9:59 AM

  2. NAFTA-Gate Shocker: Did Hillary's Camp Lie and Frame Obama?


    The Canadian Government says it was the Clinton campaign who told them not to worry about NAFTA, not Obama's.


    Just when I thought I'd gotten a handle on the so-called "NAFTA-gate" story, it takes an unexpected turn.

    Some Canadian news outlets reported last week that Barack Obama's campaign had reached out to Canadian officials, telling them to effectively ignore Obama's concerns about NAFTA, claiming the rhetoric was just political posturing. Those reports turned out to be false. Canadian news also noted that Obama aides had contacted the Canadian ambassador with the same message. That turned out to be false, too. Both Hillary Clinton and John McCain read almost identical talking points, but much of the accusations proved to be unfounded. Nevertheless, given the attention and scrutiny, the largely controversy had a fairly significant impact in Tuesday's primaries.

    Now, a new report out of Toronto suggests the original story may have left out some important details.

    *****

    So if the lie worked is that democratic efficacy?

    You know what would be reaaly cool? If there was a function within the media that would investigate and report the facts instead of just a gaggle of parrots repeating anything sensational with caution like . . .

    "assuming it's true" (JS at MoJo)

    Doesn't that guy have a boss that either appoves - edits or can call JS on the carpet for such stuff?

    Hmmmmm.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:12 AM

  3. And hear I always thought Ken Starr's transgression was leaking to the press, not asking questions.

    Posted by: Neil Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:37 AM

  4. Ken Starr is a nut and his transgressions are too numerous to list.

    He is one of those judgmental jerks with a stick up his backside.

    You know he didn't attend his high school prom because there would be dancing. (true)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:54 AM

  5. But hey, don't mind me. While you guys are getting all frothy at the mouth over Rezko, Democrats are taking Denny Hastert's old seat. Remember him? Your old House Leader?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    First of all, it's Democrats that are getting all frothy at the mouth over Rezko, the Repubs haven't even begun to take this to the next level it deserves.

    Second, let the deomcrats take Denny's old seat. There doing such a bang up job now, right? Oh, wait they have lower approval ratings than the so called worst persident ever according to Cornnuts. I guess it couldn't get much worse, right?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    First of all, Florida? Obama didn't even campaign there.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Neither did Hillary, both there names were on the ballot and she won by a landslide. At least tell the truth. You might be able to claim that in Michigan where his name wasn't on the ballot but hey thats why there will be a do over unless you don't want to count all the votes. You guys could still use those back room dark alley caucuses to swing it Obamas way.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 12:18 PM

  6. BEWARE ***The WEAPONS of MASS DECEPTION***

    WMD's =
    NBC, MSNBC - owned by GE
    CBS - owned by Westinghouse
    CNN - owned by AOL Time Warner
    Most of "the Mainstream Media"

    THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT - 29 NEW NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS (Big MONEY)
    Aka: Dick Cheney's NEXT Big ENERGY MONOPOLY RIPOFF ... ( Plan)....

    Whether Cheney's PLAN succeeds ....OR NOT.... is UP to ALL of YOU.

    We all know CORPORATE POWER is in control of our government and ROBBING us every way they can. The "NEWS" media is NOW nearly totally under the CONTROL of Powerful CORPORATE Interests.

    The Corporate-Controlled "news" media have interlocking Boards of Directors (same member serves on multiple boards) and all of them serve to enrich their CONGLOMERATED Corporate Masters. (*see FAIR website LINK at the end of this post.)

    (YOU can HELP Get the Word Out: Please post this NEWS thruout the Blogsphere and in any NEWS media you can find.)

    REAL News you won't see on TV:

    Obama is the pre-packaged "New & Improved Chocolate Flavor" Presidential candidate being Marketed like a PRODUCT - hyped & PUSHED by GE and its WHOLLY-Owned subsidiaries NBC & MSNBC...along with Westinghouse & its subsidiary CBS...while slamming the Clintons all day every day. (Assisted by...CNN/FOX/ and a lot of newspaper & radio media dependent on advertising $$$.) GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

    Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

    GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

    In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

    Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

    [NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

    Clinton Voted AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

    ? "Its about the FUTURE ...... Turn The PAGE" ?

    Nope. Its about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of deploying New, Clean, Green De-Centralized Inexpensive Energy.

    An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for- everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

    Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns - Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 14 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; nuke waste stored ON-SITE at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

    Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/ NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

    Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

    Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

    DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners,
    ...of REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

    Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald) and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers.

    Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants and fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS). With the Rezko trial looming over his head Obama, in all good conscience, should not have run for the Presidency - given all the unanswered questions about his involvement with Rezko; including Obama's meeting with Rezko and Rezko's friend Iraqi Billionaire Auichi. Obama's LACK of good conscience in running for President - given the very high risk that the Rezko trial will result in the election of a Republican - reveals Obama's lack of good conscience and his lack of any regard for his party, his country, or its people. Obama should withdraw from the race.

    At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton -even though they all knew they were pushing THE BIG LIE..

    With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

    The only way a very small minority can CONTROL a very large Majority is: DIVIDE & CONQUER -Exactly the same Republican Strategy/Deception they have successfully pulled for most of the last century And ALL of this century, so far. . .

    GE, the nuke industry/wealthy have hedged their bets & they will get 29 new nukes IF either Obama or McCain is elected.

    Ladies & Gentlemen, Dads & Moms buy nothing GE & Westinghouse are selling - not Obama, not a washing machine, a dishwasher, 29 nuke power plants, or a garbage disposer .... because there is no garbage disposer for Radioactive Nuke Waste. Do not allow them to poison the earth and your children anymore.

    For further Info see Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting website:
    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3258

    Posted by: elme Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 12:30 PM

  7. The Canadian Government says it was the Clinton campaign who told them not to worry about NAFTA, not Obama's.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    They both lied which is why McCain is a stronger and more trustworthy leader according to latest polls.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 12:32 PM

  8. Capt...

    UNFAIR!

    Nobody wants to be seen dancing with a "stickus Tookus"!

    -T

    Posted by: Hajji Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 12:40 PM

  9. Samantha Power Resigns Over Hillary "Monster" Remark

    Huffington Post | March 6, 2008 08:58 PM

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So much for Obama using the ablity to pick experienced people to put on his foreign policy team to advise him for his lack of experience.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 12:53 PM

  10. In "Monster"-Gate, Clintonites Get Away with a Slur, While Respected Obama Aide Falls


    […]

    Non-News Flash: Aides to presidential candidates routinely refer to the competition in harsh terms, particularly when they talk to reporters off the record. More than once, a top Clinton person has told me that s/he believes Obama is a self-righteous fraud--or worse. It was, of course, always off the record. But if I had reported any of these remarks, I could have gotten the pop The Scotsman has received for disclosing Power's comment.

    ******

    Written by the master himself!

    So much for intentional ignorance, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 1:19 PM

  11. "Nobody wants to be seen dancing with a "stickus Tookus"! "

    I think you have it pegged.

    HA!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 1:48 PM

  12. Rube Goldberg, Meet Rush Limbaugh

    Primetime Politics ^ | 3/7/08 | E.J. Dionne, Jr.

    There they go again. Democrats have contrived a nominating contest that even Rube Goldberg would have considered too convoluted, too dysfunctional and too improbable to name as his own.

    The happiest people in the country right now are Hillary Clinton and Rush Limbaugh—Clinton because she has survived, and Limbaugh, because he’s eager for the contest to go on so Barack Obama can be “bloodied up.” Talk about a vast and unexpected conspiracy.

    Oh, yes, and John McCain is chuckling, too. His obligatory meeting with President Bush on Wednesday produced videotape far more likely to be used by Democrats than by Republicans, given Bush’s standing as this era’s Herbert Hoover.

    But the McCain news was eclipsed by stories about Democratic hand-wringing, learned explanations of the Democrats’ exquisitely intricate “nominating process” and speculation about what nasty things Obama would need to say about Clinton to counteract the nasty things she’s saying about him.

    The quotation of the week came from Clinton adviser Harold Ickes. “Too much is yet unknown about Senator Obama,” he said during a campaign conference call on Wednesday. Now that raises fascinating philosophical issues we have not pondered since the philosopher Donald Rumsfeld instructed us that while there are “known knowns,” there are also “unknown unknowns,” those we “do not know we don’t know.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ha ha ha ha!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 1:55 PM

  13. News Flash!

    Obamas foreign policy advisors says Obama is willing to meet with world dictors unconditionally but not with that Monster Hillary Clinton.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 1:59 PM

  14. Canada keeps churning out jobs


    U.S. employers cut another 63,000 jobs in February, the highest monthly toll since 2003, even while their Canadian counterparts continued to defy expectations by adding 43,300 net new bodies to the payroll.

    The Canadian tally was just under the remarkable 46,400 new jobs created in January and well above last year's average of 31,000 a month, Statistics Canada said Friday.

    ******

    No small wonder the Canadian government like NAFTA.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:03 PM

  15. Canada keeps churning out jobs

    Ya, it's because they finally voted for a conservative government. If only Bush would have ran the economy as a conservative instead of a liberal we wouldn't have a slowing economy. Spend-Spend-Spend just like a liberal democrat.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:12 PM

  16. History: During Senate Campaign Clinton Demanded Opponent Reveal Tax Returns (Update)


    […]

    Update: I found out Wolfson himself dressed as Uncle Sam for the stunt.

    In recent months, the team has been trying to focus public scrutiny on Lazio. Wolfson himself, along with a Democratic State Committee member dressed as Uncle Sam, showed up at a Lazio event in Harlem in August, taunting Lazio with the first lady’s New York property tax returns and challenging him to release his returns. In any other campaign, it might have been the candidate who seized such a photo op; but with his boss invested in preserving her dignity, it occasionally falls to Wolfson to supply those moments of semi-slapstick.
    .

    ******

    Clip is too short, read the whole thing.

    If irony killed.

    AND another blogger geek out reporting the M$M.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:13 PM

  17. According to McCain, By Choosing John Hagee, He's Choosing the 16th Century


    McCain's own words from the 2000 election come back to haunt him.


    In the 2000 Presidential election primaries, Senator John McCain accused Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson of being "agents of intolerance", and McCain called George W. Bush anti-Catholic for courting the political support of evangelist Bob Jones and for visiting Bob Jones University - which up until Bush's visit had prohibited interracial dating. Bob Jones called the pope the "anti-Christ" and the Catholic Church a satanic cult.

    Senator McCain said that if he were invited to Bob Jones University he would have told Jones to "get out of the Sixteenth Century and into the 21st Century. What you're doing is racist and cruel." Now, in the 2008 presidential election, John McCain has aggressively courted, and enthusiastically accepted, the political support of John Hagee, who calls the Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system" and McCain's accusation, in the 2000 election, has come back to haunt him ; by his own measure, John McCain has chosen the Sixteenth Century.
    .

    ******

    Mc Cain isn’t just a liar and a flip-flopper - he actually spins in place like an old barbers pole.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:26 PM

  18. First of all, it's Democrats that are getting all frothy at the mouth over Rezko, the Repubs haven't even begun to take this to the next level it deserves.
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 12:18 PM

    Google tells a different story. Google "Obama Rezko -Clinton" and you get about 23,000 hits that are evenly split between the hatemongers on the reichwing blogs From Malkin to Little Green Nazis spewing lies about the Rezko story, to the newspapers stirring the pot with half-truths, to newspapers setting the first bunch of idiots straight and a fraction of the liberal blogs watching everyone's head explode because none of it has come close to touching obama. If you think Dems give a hoot about a non-issue like Rezko, dream on.

    BTW, if you google "Clinton Rezko -Obama" you get a bunch of Dingbat Conservatives trying to pin Rezko on Clinton's lapel.

    Conservatives have Rezko fever, no doubt.

    "Second, let the deomcrats take Denny's old seat. There doing such a bang up job now, right? Oh, wait they have lower approval ratings than the so called worst persident ever according to Cornnuts. I guess it couldn't get much worse, right?"
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 12:18 PM

    Polls don't lie. Mr. Bush is in the 20s and Roadblock Republicans are setting an all-time Historic Record for the number of bills filibustered. It's no wonder that with Roadblock Republicans blocking 90% of the stuff in Congress and Mr. 20% vetoing SCHIP that nothing useful ever gets done in Congress. And if the Dead Man Walking GOP is cutting and running from its responsibilities and its few remaining seats in Congress, We'll take 'em. Thank you Karl Rove for the permanent Democratic Majority.

    First of all, Florida? Obama didn't even campaign there.
    Posted by Me

    "Neither did Hillary, both there names were on the ballot and she won by a landslide. At least tell the truth. You might be able to claim that in Michigan where his name wasn't on the ballot but hey thats why there will be a do over unless you don't want to count all the votes. You guys could still use those back room dark alley caucuses to swing it Obamas way."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 12:18 PM

    Read for content, dude. Hillary didn't need to campaign there with the Dem Party Bosses and their machines in place. Obama couldn't go in and work his magic so she claimed she "won." And all the fools fell for her spin.

    And yes, caucuses are in the works. Hillary is straight up PO'd. Looks like Obama can pad his delegate lead even further. Sweet!

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:30 PM

  19. Google tells a different story. Google "Obama Rezko -Clinton" and you get about 23,000 hits that are evenly split between the hatemongers on the reichwing blogs From Malkin to Little Green Nazis spewing lies about the Rezko story
    ~~~~

    Unlike you, I have never been to any of those sights, have not read there lies and don't care what they say. Hillary is the one who brought us Rezco during the debate and if your boy Obama would come clean and open up all his fund raising records tied to rezco then this would be a non-issue. But hey he like answered 8 whole questions during thew press conference so that should clear it up~

    Keep up the shillin man cuz Queen Hillary is going to bloody your boy.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:36 PM

  20. Thank you Karl Rove for the permanent Democratic Majority.
    ~~~~

    No problem, they've already proved themselves just as worthless as a Obama supporter!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:38 PM

  21. "So much for Obama using the ablity to pick experienced people to put on his foreign policy team to advise him for his lack of experience."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 12:53 PM

    So much for you trying to use the English language. How does Powers speaking her mind diminish her experience in foreign policy? I know Conservatives adore people like Bolton who can speak out of both sides of their mouths (and other places too!); but Power's candor has nothing to do with her foreign policy "experience."

    And this is just too precious to pass up:
    "If only Bush would have ran (sic) the economy as a conservative instead of a liberal we wouldn't have a slowing economy. Spend-Spend-Spend just like a liberal democrat."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 2:12 PM

    LBH voted a liberal into office? Dude, the tube is showing again. Lay down the Koolaid enema and take 3 steps back.

    And in case you don't remember, it's the Republicans in congress that voted to give Mr. 20% everything that he asked for that added 2 Trillion to the National Debt. He didn't do it on his own.

    This just shows you how braindead conservatives are. They don't even stop to question whether their candidates are actually conservative. They just vote for their guy then turn into whiney tittybabies when their guys drives the economy into the ditch.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:41 PM

  22. It's no wonder that with Roadblock Republicans blocking 90% of the stuff in Congress
    ~~~

    We want them to block the 90% of democrat earmark spending.

    If your lucky with that Denny Hassert seat maybe the dems will only fund McCains war for 99 years instead of 100. LOL

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:44 PM

  23. Hillary didn't need to campaign there with the Dem Party Bosses and their machines in place. Obama couldn't go in and work his magic so she claimed she "won."
    ~~~~~

    Isn't that how it works? Obama has no magic my friend he ius an empty suit that will be exposed when the media finally starts doing it's job. It will be a sad day for ya so I won't rub it in too much.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:47 PM

  24. And yes, caucuses are in the works. Hillary is straight up PO'd. Looks like Obama can pad his delegate lead even further. Sweet!
    ~~~~~

    Nothing like a rigged election~ You guys are the best when it comes to that!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:48 PM

  25. "Hillary is the one who brought us Rezco during the debate."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 2:36 PM

    Nope. Click on the links @ google and you'll see that they were trumped up by the conservative paper in Chicago, The Trib. She only echoed their nonsense.
    And by the way, for the first time in forever, they (the Trib) endorsed a Democrat in Hastert's race. The GOP has become so infested with criminals and shills that they can't take it any more.

    "Keep up the shillin man cuz Queen Hillary is going to bloody your boy."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 2:36 PM

    Yeah, and the Republicans are going to maintain power in the House and Senate and Michael Steele is in the Senate and Santorum won in Pennsylvania. We'll add your cheerleading of Hillary onto that sad pile of crap.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:49 PM

  26. So much for you trying to use the English language. How does Powers speaking her mind diminish her experience in foreign policy?
    ~~~~~~
    It's called lack of judgement~ quite elementary.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:50 PM

  27. LBH voted a liberal into office?
    ~~~

    Dude, it was a choice between a common idiot liberal (Kerry) or a spending liberal (Bush). Not my fault you guys couldn't come up with a better canidate. I blame you!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:53 PM

  28. And in case you don't remember, it's the Republicans in congress that voted to give Mr. 20% everything that he asked for that added 2 Trillion to the National Debt. He didn't do it on his own.
    ~~~~

    Thats right, this is why we let you guys win the election but don't forget that the 14% approval rated dems went along for the ride all to easily by letting Bush roll them like dunderheads!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:58 PM

  29. "Mc Cain isn’t just a liar and a flip-flopper - he actually spins in place like an old barbers pole."
    Posted by: capt | March 7, 2008 2:26 PM

    The spin from the right is amazing. The folks on the Dingbat blogs are all agog over that guy Foster trying to take over Hastert's seat. They want the details of his messy divorce on the front page.

    When are we going to see all of the messy details on the front page of the NYT about McCain cheating on the first Mrs. McCain, the poor one who raised his kids while he was at war? We always hear about the rich one (the second Mrs. McCain) that funded his political races. If the Dingbats want details about messy divorces, let them begin with Mr. McBush. Would it hurt for them to be a little less hypocritical? Evidently so.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 2:59 PM

  30. "Not my fault you guys couldn't come up with a better canidate. I blame you!"
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 2:53 PM

    They have this thing called "primaries." Republicans have them too. Bush was the best you guys could dig up? TWICE!! Sheesh.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:01 PM

  31. The GOP has become so infested with criminals and shills that they can't take it any more.

    ~~~

    All the repub crimals went to jail rightly so. Hows your buddy who hid the $500,000 in his freezer doing in jail? Oh wait hes still in the democrat house not the jail house. You clowns sweep your criminals under the rug we put them in jail. Big difference.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:02 PM

  32. Nope. Click on the links @ google
    ~~~~
    Dude, Google is owned by a couple left wing liberal nut jobs. You need to get your mind offline and go mainstream, you might learn some objective.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:03 PM

  33. Obama Adviser: I ‘Strongly’ Believe Telecoms ‘Should Be Granted Immunity’


    Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) has consistently spoken out and voted against granting retroactive immunity for telecoms that participated with the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. This stance was part of the reason he won the support of Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), a leader on civil liberties issues.

    One of Obama’s advisers on intelligence and foreign policy advisers, however, is someone who “strongly” supports telecomm immunity. John Brennan is a former CIA official and the current chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance. In a new National Journal interview, Brennan makes it clear that he agrees with the Bush administration on the issue of immunity:

    *****

    And there you have the best news to date. Obama will not just have advisors that are yes-men. That more than anything has been the biggest weakness in the Bush Maladministration.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:05 PM

  34. They have this thing called "primaries." Republicans have them too. Bush was the best you guys could dig up? TWICE!! Sheesh.

    ~~~~

    Ya, twice he won with democrats and independents voting for him cuz your guy was such a dud!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:05 PM

  35. "Would it hurt for them to be a little less hypocritical? Evidently so"

    Pop their ideological bubble and they think they will die. It is all about fear. That is why they are fearmongers - because they are scared sh*tless they can't function in reality ergo these insane fears and fantasies.

    Sad.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:08 PM

  36. When are we going to see all of the messy details on the front page of the NYT about McCain cheating on the first Mrs. McCain,

    ~~~~

    No one cares unless you're a perv~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:09 PM

  37. Sen. Clinton could of showed some Good Will and Magnanimousness of spirit by accepting Ms. Powers' apology and moving on, knowing that some pretty heated things get said in the thick of the battle. Unfortunately, Sen. Clinton and her cronies had to show how Petty they are and call on Ms. Powers' resignation. They showed no generosity of spirit. , I hope Sen Clinton is happy. However, a true person of goodwill would have accepted her apologies and moved on instead of trying to get some kind of political gain. There is no goodness in that woman and Sen. Clinton shows how she really feels about a woman's plight -- she could care less. Sen. Clinton is not a pleasant spirit, and she is very ruthless and cunning. Sen Clinton, what goes around comes around and what you put out will come back. She has a blackened heart of stone and she made much more out of this than it was worth. When Obama wins contests, she comes out and does her stump speech and never congratulates Sen. Obama at all. And now we see that she did not even have compassion towards another women -- just cut her head off! Put her out in the cold, let her suffer. What a mean-spirited women. I like the way Ms. Powers had the class to resign so as not to derail Sen Obama's campaign efforts. She quickly defused the bomb Sen Clinton hoped to throw. People will begin to see through these monstrous tactics of Sen Clinton and her Team.

    We are now finding out, through the new information channel, the internet that Naftagate was the work of an initial call from the Clinton camp and Bush’s Canadian allie, Stephen Harper in an attemp to sabotage Obama and the democrats, which they did! Where's the Press on this? Click on the word "round-up"
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/the-truth-about.html

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

    Those of us who care for our Democracy for the vetting of truth and for fair and accurate reporting must call the main stream media to task. We can exercise our rights and our united power by calling CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. and ask them to begin to Vet Hillary Clinton and ask the important questions they should be asking her, like why she has not returned the money back to IPA, a company accused of sexually harrasing women? Why have they not further discussed Camp Clinton's initial call to Canada in the Naftagate controversy? Why do they continually bring up negative stories on Obama and soft question of her -- like the press is bought and paid for, yet again! It is an illusion that the press has been hard on her and soft on Obama. That is a traditional Camp Clinton spin and we all know they are the Masters of Spin (that means in essence they do not speak the truth).

    As for Hillary’s superior foreign experience, Hillary did not think it important enough to read the National Intelligence Report and so she voted Yes on a War/Mistake that should have never been waged instead of having the intelligence and Judgment to say No, as other Senators did, and stated at the time, that we must not invade Iraq who did not bomb us on 911, but instead finish the job in Afghanistan. This makes her qualifyingly ineligible for the top job as commander-in-chief. Just because she surrounds herself with a bunch of generals does not make her qualified. A Photo-op does not eras her Iraq vote or exonerate it. Camp Clinton loves to stage phony events for the perception to make us think something that is not, is -- Masters of Spin & Hype and Delusion, often busing people in to their events to make the crowd look bigger than it is!


    Then there is the current Camp Clinton Mantra, that may be the American public are having second thoughts about Barack Obama, beginning to doubt him because he did not win in Ohio. That is such spin. They won Ohio because they slandered him and made people doubt that he is a true Christian and some secret closet Muslim instead. They duped him on Naftagate, when they were the initial culprits, somehow Rezko's trial was pushed up to conincide with the primaries and the insinuation that Obama was a criminal too, just waitin to go down with Rezko. That is why people doubted him unfairly, because of old-time party politics, instituted by a "do anything and say anything mentality", no matter the cost to the person and the party.

    Brotherhood (1937) - 552: Do you wish to be courageous? Then prove your courage in battling for Brotherhood. Assurances alone will not create courage, nor will praises affirm achievement. No preparations can be a guarantee of success. Courage is tested by unexpected obstacles. I have already spoken about courage; if I repeat it, it means that this quality is especially needed on the path to Brotherhood


    Let the Vetting Begin!

    Posted by: bacaangel Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:16 PM

  38. They have this thing called "primaries." Republicans have them too. Bush was the best you guys could dig up?
    ~~~~

    Ya, like the Obama dunderheads who are supporting him without knowing anything about him we fell for Bush's talk of being a true conservative. You'd think you would have learned from our mistake but I guess I'm giving you all too much on the old intelligence meter.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:17 PM

  39. Whats the matter Pando, run out of witty comebacks?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:18 PM

  40. Obama preaching the sermon on the mount for civil unions is as nutty as Pandes preacher Hagee saying 911 was because of civil unions.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:24 PM

  41. MSNBC Host Falsely Claims McCain Opposes Bush On Torture Bill Veto


    On MSNBC this morning, anchor Monica Novotny claimed that President Bush’s impending veto of the Intelligence Authorization Bill would put “a chill” in his alliance with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). Bush is vetoing the bill because of an amendment that puts the CIA’s interrogation program under the standards of Army Field Manual, which Novotny claims McCain supports.

    “He doesn’t like a provision that’s been pushed by, you guessed it, Sen. McCain,” claimed Novotny. Watch it:

    *****

    The M$M is broken beyond repair.

    The only viable solution is to not watch the infotainment on CNN, MSNBC, etc.

    The M$M no longer serves any purpose except to manipulate and deceive the public in favor of corporate profits.

    Why would anybody watch this kind of crud?

    The whole M$M meme is grossly overrated and pretends to have such great influence. The only influence they have is over people too hypnotized to use the channel changer or the off button.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:27 PM

  42. The folks on the Dingbat blogs are all agog over that guy Foster trying to take over Hastert's seat.

    When are we going to see all of the messy details on the front page of the NYT about McCain cheating on the first Mrs. McCain, the poor one who raised his kids while he was at war?

    !~~~~

    Sound like you're part of one of those ding bat blogs- you fit right in with the ding bats bro!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:28 PM

  43. Kondracke: McCain ‘Seeking Ways To Separate’ From Bush To Avoid Looking Like Third Bush Term


    During the “All-Star Panel” segment on Fox News’s Special Report last night, Roll Call Executive Editor Mort Kondracke said that Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) campaign is worried about appearing too aligned with President Bush and they’re seeking “ways to separate themselves in some way from Bush.” They need “some issue that he can be distinctive from Bush,” said Kondracke

    Noting that McCain is the same as Bush on the war and tax cuts, Kondracke said that he doesn’t want to be seen as “just the third term” of Bush:

    *****

    That’d be because a third term of Bush would be a bigger disaster than the two terms of Bush has been and this is from the Reich-wing nut pundits? Hard to assert it is not obvious to everybody.

    You could say the pundits are at least more reality based than some that post here.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:34 PM

  44. ARG on Mississippi:

    Barack - 58%
    Hillary - 34%

    Maybe the attacks and smears will be rendered inconsequential?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:41 PM

  45. Big Pharma opens wallet to Dems

    cnn.com ^ | 3/07/08 | Aaron Smith

    Democrats have long served as the traditional enemy of Big Pharma, but in this presidential campaign, the left is taking the lion's share of drugmaker money. Democratic senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are the top recipients of donations from the pharmaceutical industry, according to The Center for Responsive Politics, a non-profit, non-partisan research group in Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, donations to Sen. John McCain, who was recently endorsed by President Bush as the official Republican candidate, pale in comparison.
    ~~~~~

    Wasn't obama whining about Hillary taking money from the health care industry? So much for change of the old Washington ways!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 3:50 PM

  46. Power’s statement came scarcely an hour after congressional supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, demanded that Obama fire Power for the remarks.

    This won’t look good for Obama. The resignation comes after a demand for Obama to fire Powers by three Democratic Representatives. Hillary Clinton herself had criticized the name-calling, and the campaign suggested it provided more proof that Obama simply isn’t up to a national campaign.

    Hillary has Obama clearly on the defensive. A few more weeks of this and Obama may not have many superdelegates left behind him.
    ~~~~~

    Man what a wussy he's turning out to be!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:01 PM

  47. John McBush 2008

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:10 PM

  48. Party Donations Show G.O.P. Edge

    By LESLIE WAYNE, NYT

    WASHINGTON — For all the success that Democratic presidential candidates have had in raising money — taking in a combined total of over $500 million in the current race — the Republicans are beating them in one crucial area of fund-raising: the money being raised by the parties themselves.

    The Democratic National Committee ended 2007 nearly flat broke, with cash of $2.9 million and debts of $2.2 million. Since then it has raised some money, paid down debt and managed to put $3.7 million in its piggy bank. This compares, however, with $25 million that the Republican National Committee has in cash on hand, after having raised $97 million since the beginning of 2007.

    And with Senator John McCain now the presumptive Republican nominee, party officials started plotting with his campaign this week on deploying those resources against the well-financed Democratic candidacies of Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

    Already, President Bush, who spoke at 29 Republican fund-raisers and is credited with raising $63.5 million last year, is lined up for more R.N.C. fund-raising in the weeks ahead. This money is likely to provide the financial muscle for Mr. McCain to continue his attacks on both Democratic candidates.

    “The Republican National Committee’s strength is an important indicator,” said Alex Conant, the R.N.C. spokesman. “The D.N.C. has had trouble raising money, and the R.N.C. is well-positioned to help our nominee financially. It is our mission to get McCain elected president, and that is our focus. Fund-raising is a priority.”

    Such party money can play a vital role in presidential campaigns because candidates are barred from using money they raise for the general election until they are nominated at the conventions. So the party money is often used before then — as well as after — to finance advertisements, direct mail and, ultimately, get-out-the-vote efforts.

    Democrats say their limited party fund-raising is a result of several factors, including the competition for dollars from the presidential candidates and the party’s Congressional fund-raising committees. And they also say the D.N.C. is hamstrung by its inability to raise money in any serious way without a presidential nominee to rally around.

    Since the beginning of 2007, the Democrats have raised $60.5 million, and have spent most of it. Not only does the D.N.C. have far less cash on hand than does the R.N.C., but in this election cycle the R.N.C. has also outraised the D.N.C. by $37 million.

    ~~~~

    The democrat dysfunctional family saga continues~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:10 PM

  49. ‘Why Are You So Angry?’: McCain Gets Testy Over NYT Reporter’s Inquiry

    ~~~~

    Too funny you lefties have your minions from the NYT trying to agitate McCain and ask why are you so angry sir. He should've had her waterboarded then maybe she would ask a serious question for once.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:18 PM

  50. Former NM Gov.: GOP Rep. Heather Wilson Under Investigation for Vote Buying


    Another day another GOP scandal.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:44 PM

  51. U.S. economy lost 63,000 jobs in February


    The economy shed 63,000 jobs in February, the government said Friday, the fastest falloff in five years and the strongest evidence yet that the nation is headed toward — or may already be in — a recession.

    Manufacturers and construction companies, reeling from the worst housing slump in decades, led the declines in payrolls. But the losses were spread across a broad range of businesses — including department stores, offices and retail outlets — putting increased pressure on consumers' pocketbooks.

    *****

    Predictable and expected. A bummer for anybody in business.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 4:55 PM

  52. "Party Donations Show G.O.P. Edge....
    The democrat dysfunctional family saga continues~"
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 4:10 PM

    Hmmm. The GOP is a criminal enterprise that rakes in tons of cash (cf. Ney, Pombo, Cunningham, DeLay, Abramoff, etc). I wonder if they're padding their numbers illegally? Hmmm.

    NRCC probe scares GOP
    Top House Republicans were told in recent days that a former employee of their campaign committee may have forged an official audit during the contentious 2006 election cycle and that they should brace for the possibility that an unfolding investigation could uncover financial improprieties stretching back several years, according to GOP sources briefed on the members-only discussions.

    "NRCC officials and top GOP leaders are being tight-lipped in large part because the FBI is investigating the matter."

    What? They lied again? And LBH falls for it every time. Lying seems to be a consistent thread that runs through all conservatives. Kinda like the whole cheating on the wife thing. Rudy, Newt, McBush, etc, etc. So THAT'S why LBH won't claim Bush as a conservative. He's only been married once. And that further explains why conservatives are always trying to claim BigDawg as one of the most conservative (centrist) Democratic presidents in the past 50 years. He's just like them. As James would say, HA!

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:21 PM

  53. "No one cares [about infidelity] unless you're a perv~".
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 3:09 PM

    Why are you calling the fine Republican folks at Redstate pervs? There's no end to their caterwauling about Foster's divorce papers (the Dem that is going to replace Hastert). I seem to remembers something about some conservatives (Gingrich, Burton, Barr) that were very interested in BigDawg's infidelity. Why are you calling them pervs? Oh wait, they were cheating on their wives too!! I guess the perv label fits them to a T. The jokes just write themselves with the GOP. Ah, I forgot to do TNFs last night. I'll have to do FNFs tonight.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:28 PM

  54. Hmmm. The GOP is a criminal enterprise that rakes in tons of cash (cf. Ney, Pombo, Cunningham, DeLay, Abramoff, etc). I wonder if they're padding their numbers illegally? Hmmm.

    ~~~~

    Corrupt vs incompentent - Howard Dean the guy you all elected to lead the DNC cuz of his great math skills just bankrupted the DNC. Even Obama would choose corrupt over incompentent if he had a choice. After all he chose Rezco to buy land from.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:30 PM

  55. Why are you calling the fine Republican folks at Redstate pervs?
    ~~~~

    I'm calling them and you a perv! No wonder you spend so much time at Red State.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:31 PM

  56. "Dude, Google is owned by a couple left wing liberal nut jobs. You need to get your mind offline and go mainstream, you might learn some objective (sic)."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 3:03 PM

    Wow. Can I get an Amen? Wow.
    LBH is trying to augment the Koolaid enema effect by wearing the spiffy tinfoil hat. Google is run by leftwing liberals that...? Daaaaaang. I lost you there.

    "I guess I'm giving you all too much on the old intelligence meter."
    Posted by: LBH | March 7, 2008 3:17 PM

    Lucky for you, after that last post about Google, we won't be making the same mistake with you.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:35 PM

  57. Obama Aide: Clinton One Of The "Most Secretive Politicians In America"

    Huffington Post

    ~~~~~

    And all this time I thought it was Bush~ You democrats are rascally rabbits!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:35 PM

  58. "NRCC officials and top GOP leaders are being tight-lipped in large part because the FBI is investigating the matter."
    ~~~~

    There you go again with those conspricay theories_ how are you and James doing on the twin towers was an inside job thing going anyway?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:39 PM

  59. Wow. Can I get an Amen? Wow.
    LBH is trying to augment the Koolaid enema effect by wearing the spiffy tinfoil hat. Google is run by leftwing liberals that...? Daaaaaang. I lost you there.
    ~~~~

    YouTube, Google, and the Liberal Bias Virus
    By Noel Sheppard | October 16, 2006 - 09:17 ET

    The following is a collaboration with Marc Sheppard originally posted at The American Thinker.

    Five months ago, the Internet’s top search engine Google was accused of banning conservative websites from its news crawl. Last week, the e-behemoth offered to purchase YouTube, the preeminent provider of videos over the Web that has recently been implicated in censorship of its own. With their pending merger, serious questions arise about the future of the most powerful telecommunications medium on the landscape, and who if anyone is trying to control its content.

    As reported by American Thinker on May 22, Internet search king Google eliminated a number of conservative e-zines and blogs from its news crawl earlier this year. In all of the cases cited, the alleged offense was the dissemination of “hate speech.”

    After closer examination, the tie between all the banished websites was the publishing of articles about radical Islam and its relation to international terrorism. Yet, sites that actually were more specifically involved in such activities – like Hezb’allah’s propaganda arm in Lebanon, al Manar – were unaffected by Google’s “hate speech” policies, and continue to be a part of its news crawl.

    The Liberal Bias Virus: Coming Soon to a Computer Near You

    Now, five months later, the web’s leading video-sharing portal YouTube has been implicated for demonstrating a similar hypocrisy in its business practices. In the past several weeks, some leading conservative websites have had videos pulled and their accounts closed. As Robert Cox of the Washington Examiner reported on October 12:

    ~~~~~

    I have no problem with Google being a butt monkey like you all but at least don't lie about it.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:43 PM

  60. Google Donates $207,650 To Democrats
    98% of donations goes to Dems
    `````````

    Dang, those liberal lefties at google left a paper trail.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:48 PM

  61. Daaaaaang. I lost you there.
    ~~~

    Dude youu are lost!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:50 PM

  62. To be clear, I don't care how often McBush was unfaithful to the woman that raised his kids. I don't care if he married a woman and used her money to fund his political career. I don't care how often or in what manner he did the deed with Iseman. All that just makes him a liar, a cheat and a bad husband (along with Newt, Rudy, Bobby Barr, and a million other GOP leaders). I have problems with him selling political favors for money from lobbyists. In the old days (think back to the days of ABSCAM and Murtha's flirtations with bribers), they called them bribes. The GOP calls them political donations then fake the audits to show that it's on the up and up. We'll see what the FBI has to say about it....
    Buying Favors from John McBush
    "At the same time that John McCain's connection with the Alcalde & Fay lobbyist Vicki Iseman became a great concern to his staffers eight years ago, McCain became a "dedicated sponsor of bills to deregulate the cruise and passenger ship industries." Coincidently, International Council of Cruise Lines paid Alcalde & Fay a fee of $990,600 that year, and on the February night that McCain and Iseman took on a Paxson jet from Florida to Washington, the reformer and the lobbyist were returning from the home of cruise-line executive who was raising campaign cash for the 'straight talk express.'"

    990,600 kisses from the lobbyist. Like I said, I don't care so much that he's a shitty husband but the corruption kinda grates on my nerves. Taking bribes used to be done discreetly by the GOP, now they do it out in the open. As Hajji would say, Puuh-thetic.

    And with the Google thing, Email them and tell them that you're fine with all the hate speech on conservative sites. They'll love it. It explains a lot. Really.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 5:50 PM

  63. Hey Pande,

    I'm curious why you couldn't carry the hispanic vote for Obama in TX? If you're guy is such a great canidate then why couldn't you use all that smug rightousness to convince your bros?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:02 PM

  64. To be clear, I don't care how often McBush was unfaithful to the woman that raised his kids.
    ~~~~

    Then why do you keep bringing it up? You and Obama have enough problems with the slum lord scandal.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:03 PM

  65. 990,600 kisses from the lobbyist.

    ~~~~

    There you go again with the sleazy sex story that the majority of democrats, even liberals have rejected. You can do better than this my friend.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:05 PM

  66. And with the Google thing, Email them and tell them that you're fine with all the hate speech on conservative sites. They'll love it. It explains a lot. Really.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That is the most lame comment to date. Liberal web sites are just as bad as conservative web sites. They both should monitor disgusting posters just like Corn did when he banned you way back.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:21 PM

  67. John McBush~

    That sounds great, can't wait until McBush extends four more years of Bush tax cuts and scrap the democrats ear mark spending which would make him a McRegean. Win the war on terror which would make him a McEisenhower. He could end the civil war with Obama and Hillary and be a McLincoln.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:54 PM

  68. All Eyes on Illinois’ Tossup Race to Fill Hastert Seat


    […]

    Democrats see an upset victory by Foster as the ultimate repudiation of the Republican Party and of President Bush, who handily carried the 14th District in the 2004 election — by a margin of 55 percent to 44 percent for Democratic Sen. John Kerry . But Bush was more popular then than he is now, and Republicans acknowledge a competitive race between Foster, a first-time candidate, and Oberweis, who lost Republican primaries for senator in 2002 and 2004 and for governor in 2006.

    In fact, the race seems close enough that CQ Politics is applying a rating of “No Clear Favorite” to the Illinois 14 contest — a change from the Leans Republican rating that previously applied to the race. Should Foster win — and private and public polls suggest that is a plausible scenario — it would mark the first time in nearly four years that a special election caused a shift in partisan control of a congressional district.

    Republican strategists acknowledge that the race is very close and that they’re aware of the implications of a Democratic victory in the former Speaker’s district.

    *****

    The GOP must be messing their collective underoo’s!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 6:58 PM

  69. McCain 'McSame' as Bush


    McSame, McShame or McBush - which would you prefer?

    They are all accurate and McLobby-lover is too long to type out over and over so . . .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 7:01 PM

  70. McCain flashes temper at reporter

    NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Republican Sen. John McCain, showing a flash of the temper he is known for, repeatedly cut off a reporter Friday when asked whether he had spoken to Democratic Sen. John Kerry about being his vice president in 2004. "Everybody knows that I had a private conversation. Everybody knows that, that I had a conversation," McCain told the reporter. "And you know it, too. No. You know it, too. No. You do know. You do know."

    The reporter, Elisabeth Bumiller of The New York Times, was following up on a question McCain had answered at a campaign event Friday morning in Atlanta. Asked if he might consider Kerry as a running mate, since Kerry asked him in 2004, McCain said no.

    Afterward, on a campaign flight, Bumiller said she looked in the Times' archives and that McCain had denied talking with Kerry in a May 2004 story.

    ****

    “Everybody knows that, that I had a conversation“ - well yes, that is a fact, the problem is the fact that McSame denied it at the time so . . .

    How many times will the M$M let grandpa off the hook because he has a muddled memory or is he just lying like a rug?

    (I’d wager the rug)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 7:07 PM

  71. Looks like 14% of Dems would vote for a McBush~~


    McCain leads in crossover votes

    By Joseph Curl / Washington Times
    March 7, 2008

    Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain speaks to employees during a campaign stop at the Chick-Fil-A headquarters in Atlanta, Ga., on Friday. Mr. McCain likes to point out that he draws strong support from members of the other party.

    McCainocrats vs. Obamacans?

    The two new political demographics — like Soccer moms and NASCAR dads before them — are quickly emerging as the potential election-busters of the 2008 presidential race.

    And contrary to conventional wisdom, numbers emerging from polls and primary results show that Sen. John McCain — who has alienated conservatives as he courts independents and moderate Democrats — holds an advantage over Sen. Barack Obama in the race for crossover votes.

    There are now more McCainocrats than Obamacans — about 14 percent of Democrats say they would vote for Mr. McCain today instead of Mr. Obama, but just 8 percent of Republicans say they would vote for the Illinois Democrat, according to a Pew Research Center survey on Feb. 28.

    Additionally, 20 percent of white Democratic voters say they would defect to Mr. McCain if Mr. Obama is the Democratic Party's nominee — twice the number who would cross over if Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton wins the nomination, Pew found.

    "McCain poses a clear and present danger to Obama in that he draws Democrat base support in historic numbers," said Republican strategist Scott Reed.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 7:33 PM

  72. Brzezinski cherry-picked polling to assert "McCain's crossover appeal is apparently even greater than" Obama's


    Summary: Citing a Pew Research poll, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski asserted that "John McCain's crossover appeal is apparently even greater than Barack Obama's." However, polling has differed on the question of whether McCain or Obama would have greater "crossover appeal" -- appeal to members of the opposite party -- and two polls more recent than the Pew poll Brzezinski cited found that Obama received greater "crossover" support.

    ****

    The one thing you can always bank on in the messed up crazy world is the Insane WashTimes has never been right about much of anything.

    Those pesky facts, eh?


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:06 PM

  73. From the same link above:

    An ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 16 percent of Republicans would vote for Obama, and 14 percent of Democrats would vote for McCain in a hypothetical matchup; a Cook-RT Strategies poll found that 13 percent of Republicans would vote for Obama, compared with 10 percent of Democrats who would vote for McCain. Additionally, the Pew Research poll Brzezinski cited also found that overall, 50 percent of registered voters said they would vote for Obama, compared with 43 percent who said they would vote for McCain.

    *****

    Seems someone can't even read poll data.

    Typical.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:11 PM

  74. TGIF. For real, this time.

    I had the Thursday Night Funnies in mind last night but got sidetracked by the Spurs-Pacers game. Spurs-Nuggets is coming up soon. Without further ado....

    "On Bill O'Reilly's show on Fox, Bill O'Reilly does a segment he calls 'Pinhead or Patriot.' And today President Bush said, 'Well, why can't you be both?'"
    --Jay Leno

    Actually, political experts say that Mitt Romney has the No. 1 thing John McCain is looking for in a vice presidential candidate - an organ donor card."
    --Jay Leno

    "And Senator John McCain was on the Larry King show the other night. He and Larry got in a big argument over whose prostate was larger."
    --Jay Leno

    "And President Bush is now pushing Congress to expand the government's ability to spy on Americans now that the current phone tap bill has expired. In fact, to gain support for a new spying Bill, they're bringing in coach Bill Belichick. Yeah. They are going to rename it the New England Patriot Act."
    --Jay Leno

    "Well, congratulations to the new nation of Kosovo. They gained their independence this week. Of course, President Bush was shocked when he heard this. He said: 'Independence? But, we haven't even invaded them yet.'"
    --Jay Leno

    "He was president a long time. Do you realize that when Castro came to power in 1959 John McCain was only 61 years old?"
    --Jay Leno

    "Experts believe that now that Fidel has resigned, he will either be succeeded by his brother, Raul, or by his idiot son, Fidel W. Castro."
    --David Letterman

    "Scientists now believe that a child's intellectual power, a child's brain power, a child's I.Q., is inherited solely from the mother. All the intelligence of a child comes from the mother. These findings are based on the study of the Bush twins."
    --Jay Leno

    "And President Bush is now in Africa, where he's meeting with several of Africa's top leaders. See, again, I don't think President Bush is that familiar with Africa. Like, today, he said the leader he's most looking forward to meeting - the Lion King."
    --Jay Leno

    "Over in Africa, President Bush is being welcomed as a hero in Tanzania. See, that's because President Bush always said one day third world countries would have the same economy as the United States and thanks to the Bush economic plan, now they do."
    --Jay Leno

    "The New York Times alleging that John McCain had an inappropriate relationship with a young female lobbyist. I haven't seen McCain this angry since 'Matlock' was canceled."
    --Jay Leno

    "But I know what you're thinking, a Republican politician ... with a woman?"
    --Bill Maher

    "Come on, what girl could resist? An old guy with anger problems and a bus."
    --Bill Maher

    "No, they say this woman traveled around with McCain on his campaign stops, and she also flew aboard his private jet. Do you know what you call a young woman traveling around with a 71-year-old man? A nurse."
    --Jay Leno

    "A lot of people are questioning the source of this New York Times story. See, it's never good when an article begins, 'Dude, guess what I heard.'"
    --Jay Leno

    "It's been a very tough day for John McCain with the New York Times' allegation that he had an affair. The paper is saying McCain had an affair, years ago, with Joan of Arc or something."
    --Craig Ferguson

    The funniest of the funnies:
    "McCain poses a clear and present danger to Obama...."
    Posted by: LBH March 7, 2008 7:33 PM

    Puh-freekin-leez. The only thing that McBurrito is a danger to is a bottle of denture cream.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:12 PM

  75. 'Cross-over' voting has baggage
    Prosecution possible for mischief


    […]

    Ohio law allows independents - or those who haven't voted in a partisan primary since 2005 - to cast a ballot in either party's primary. Any voter also can cast an issues-only ballot.

    But a registered Republican who wants to vote a Democratic ballot must swear - under threat of criminal prosecution - that he "desires to be affiliated with" and "supports the principles" of the Democratic party. The same goes for registered Democrats who want to vote Republican ballots.

    Prosecutors and election lawyers say indictments of fraudulent crossover voters are extremely unlikely, and perhaps unfathomable - absent some organized effort by one party to tamper with the other party's result.

    ****

    I have always thought of the “cross over” vote (if insincere) are dishonest. How sad that some people are willing to play games with one of the most precious rights we possess as citizens.

    The above sounds awfully close to a “loyalty oath” and that too is wrong but people should be fully informed if they are exposing themselves to potential prosecution. That is very different than the republicans making people sign “loyalty oaths” just to get a ticket to see a sitting president. That is brown-shirt thuggery.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:46 PM

  76. Now that stuff is effin funny!

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 10:57 PM

  77. McCain Rejects Hagee's Anti-Catholicism, But Dismisses Controversy As An "Attack"


    John McCain is now starting to inch away from the support of televangelist John Hagee — known for his eager anticipation of Armageddon, plus his inflammatory comments against the Catholic Church and other groups — now that the press has noticed the problem here.

    "We've had a dignified campaign, and I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics," McCain told the Associated Press. "I sent two of my children to Catholic school. I categorically reject and repudiate any statement that was made that was anti-Catholic, both in intent and nature."

    McCain said he was responding to yesterday's criticism from Nancy Pelosi, describing Pelosi's censure of Hagee's views and McCain's association with Hagee as an "attack."

    However, it still sounds like McCain accepts Hagee's endorsement but rejects his views only insofar as they might be anti-Catholic.


    *****

    Wow, who would have seen this coming? Senator McSpineless accepts Hagee’s endorsement but only insofar as it doesn’t cost him any votes? Now that is what the GOP stands for? Great expression of principles - well the absence of principles.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 7, 2008 11:34 PM

  78. Pande,

    You look like you are having way too much fun.

    Posted by: tytandanmar Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 9:20 AM

  79. It is too bad that Sen. Clinton did not have the Graciousness of Spirit and accepted Ms. Powers’ apologies and just moved on instead of trying to gain some political advantage against someone elses’ disadvantage especially in light of the facts that Sen. Clinton and her team have smeared Sen. Obama within the last few weeks, throwing more than the Kitchen Sink, a few Stink Bombs too, and they call themselves Good People. It is politicians like them that make average Americans distrust and hate politics and politicians. What Ms. Powers meant that Sen. Clinton’s actions over this whole campaign process has been “monstrous”, and that it has! It is and should be a part of the past and left behind as we move towards more goodwill, compassion, cooperation and holistic ways of living. America’s Soul is being reclaimed.

    Posted by: bacaangel Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 9:21 AM

  80. McCain Courts Secret Radical Religious Conservative Group

    The Council for National Policy would be perfectly happy if the public didn’t even know it exists.


    Usually, political groups trip over one another to try and gain public notoriety and attention. The Council for National Policy, meanwhile, would be perfectly happy if the public didn’t even know it exists. (I’ve long believed the easiest job on Earth would be to serve as this group’s press secretary.)

    The CNP is made up of many heavy-hitters from the religious right and conservative movement in general, and they meet periodically to plot and scheme. It may sound excessively cloak-and-dagger of the group, but the CNP has a list of formal rules, one of which reads, "The media should not know when or where we meet or who takes part in our programs, before or after a meeting.”

    Fortunately, details routinely leak. Today in New Orleans, for example, the CNP will gather and hear from none other than John McCain. (You know, the one who “refuses to pander” to anyone.)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 10:43 AM

  81. "NRCC officials and top GOP leaders are being tight-lipped in large part because the FBI is investigating the matter."
    Posted by Me

    "There you go again with those conspricay theories...."
    Posted by: LBH March 7, 2008 5:39 PM

    NRCC Chairman Tom Cole Blows the Whistle on the GOP

    "The statement from NRCC Chairman Tom Cole (R-Okla.) is the only information the committee is providing at this point, and the chairman emphasized that the committee has proactively contacted federal law enforcement to investigate the matter.

    “As part of our ongoing efforts to institute and strengthen financial controls at the National Republican Congressional Committee, we learned earlier this week of irregularities in our financial audit process," Cole said in a statement released by the committee Friday afternoon.

    "Since these irregularities may include fraud, we have notified the appropriate law enforcement authorities."

    That quote is from Politoco.com.

    Here's a link to the same story on Fauxnews for the Dinbats who insist on hearing straight from the horse's ass, with the following bit at the end:

    'Also, the Democratic counterpart to the NRCC has raised considerably more money than the Republicans, a reversal of traditional trends."

    GOP rep Tom Coles is the new Liberal mole in Congress. He has initiated a shitstorm conspiracy, according to LBH. Conservatives in congress finally get around to abiding by the law of the land and LBH calls it a conspiracy? Meanwhile LBH's standing on the streetcorner sporting his tinfoil hat screaming REZCO REZCO REZCO at the top of his lungs. Freaky by any measure.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 10:47 AM

  82. Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims


    […]

    Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.

    "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political talks over the years.

    Lord Trimble shared the Nobel Peace Prize with John Hume, leader of the nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party, in 1998. Conall McDevitt, an SDLP negotiator and aide to Mr Hume during the talks, said: "There would have been no contact with her either in person or on the phone. I was with Hume regularly during calls in the months leading up to the Good Friday Agreement when he was taking calls from the White House and they were invariably coming from the president."

    *****

    “Hello, White House? This is Ireland - can you put the first lady on the phone?”


    lolololololo

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 10:51 AM

  83. Freaky, indeed.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 10:53 AM

  84. Condoleezza Rice Was "Bombarded" with Warnings Before 9/11, Commission Biased Against Clarke

    New York Times reporter Philip Shenon’s new book — The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation — paints a damning portrait of Condoleezza Rice. Shenon argues that Rice was “uninterested in actually advising the President,” but was instead more concerned with being his “closest confidante — specifically on foreign policy — and to simply translate his words into action.”

    Today’s Sydney Morning Herald prints an extract from Shenon’s book which provides further details about Rice’s incompetence. “Emails from the National Security Council’s counter-terrorism director, Richard Clarke, showed that he had bombarded Rice with messages about terrorist threats” before 9/11, Shenon writes. Some examples:

    “Bin Ladin Public Profile May Presage Attack” (May 3)
    “Terrorist Groups Said Co-operating on US Hostage Plot” (May 23)
    “Bin Ladin’s Networks’ Plans Advancing” (May 26)
    “Bin Ladin Attacks May Be Imminent” (June 23)
    “Bin Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” (June 25)
    “Bin Ladin Planning High-Profile Attacks” (June 30)
    “Planning for Bin Ladin Attacks Continues, Despite Delays” (July 2)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 10:59 AM


  85. McCain lies about his letters to the FCC.

    A new piece in the Nation by public broadcasting activist Jerold M. Starr accuses Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) of lying about writing two controversial letters to the FCC in 1999 on behalf of campaign contributor Lowell “Bud” Paxson, regarding “Paxson’s quest to acquire a Pittsburgh television station.” Starr writes:

    I don’t know whether Senator John McCain had sex with lobbyist Vickie Iseman, but I do know, first hand, that he broke the rules while doing the bidding of media mogul Lowell “Bud” Paxson, a major contributor to McCain’s 2000 presidential campaign. McCain’s staff lied it about it then and they are inventing new lies even now. […]

    At the time, McCain’s staff said to the press that his intervention was appropriate because “there was no formal opposition.” Our opposition had been formal for years. […]

    Allegedly, we asked McCain’s staff “to contact the FCC regarding this proceeding.” We had no idea of McCain’s sudden and urgent interest in our local matter until the FCC advised that the commissioners already had voted 3-2 to approve the transfer, at which time McCain’s letters were dropped on us.

    *****

    Maybe McSame can run for president of the Rotary club or something? Hecan't run from the truth.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:11 AM

  86. Yes, Capt and Tytandan, this is all done in fun, reverse-Colbert style. I can do the over-the-top liberal thing well enough with a dose of humor to add a bit of edge to it. I know it may be a bit of a shocker to the likes of Tomcantu; but I assure you Tom, no malice is intended. LBH knows the score. He shows up just for such fun. The fact that I attend Hagee's evangelical church is an indication of just how "liberal" I really am. I've heard Dobson and Bauer and Huckabee speak at Cornerstone.

    I enjoyed listening to Huckabee a lot. I think he would be a horrible president; but he takes his Christianism seriously, or at least more seriously than Mr. Bush. This is what scares the Libertarian and Fiscal Conservative / Small government wings of the Rightwing (Dingbat) Party. He wants to use the levers of government to help those that can't help themselves, feed the hungry, float the middle-class boat. He loses me and millions of other recent immigrants when he starts his Xenophobic, America uber alles crap.

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:12 AM

  87. Capt, I saw a similar story about Senator Clinton regarding her "experience" in the ChiTrib via Andrew Sullivan.

    These are Sullivan's words not mine, words in italics are from the ChiTrib Article:

    The Chicago Tribune does us all a service by examining what exactly is Senator Clinton's experience. Read the whole thing, but the Macedonia and Northern Ireland claims are the most revealing:

    " Pressed in a CNN interview this week for specific examples of foreign policy experience that has prepared her for an international crisis, Clinton claimed that she "helped to bring peace" to Northern Ireland and negotiated with Macedonia to open up its border to refugees from Kosovo."

    Both claims are ludicrously untrue. All she did in Northern Ireland was have tea with some local peace activist women. Laura Bush could argue, by that token, that she has ended AIDS in Africa. But here's the beaut:

    " The Macedonian government opened its border to refugees the day before Clinton arrived to meet with government leaders."

    Clinton has next to no foreign policy experience. And no executive experience. She has less legislative experience than Obama. And she has not just exaggerated, but flat-out lied, about her non-achievements. I'm glad the Tribune has done this. Can the rest of media follow up?

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:22 AM

  88. Military officials worried about McCain’s ‘knee-jerk response factor’


    […]

    In interviews with Salon this week, several experienced military officers said McCain draws mixed reviews among military leaders, and they expressed serious doubts about whether McCain has the right temperament to be the next president and commander in chief. Some expressed more confidence in Obama, citing his temperament as an asset.

    *****

    More confidence in Obama?

    Well that goes without saying.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:24 AM

  89. "LBH knows the score. He shows up just for such fun."


    And yet the troll is just not reality based whereas Pande is almost totally factual - with some ribbing and humor.

    The troll is just insulting and juvenile.

    But that too goes without saying.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:27 AM

  90. Obama wins Texas!

    HRC's "come back" and "rebound" seems to be just a mass media mirage?

    "No she can't"

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:29 AM

  91. I mentioned in an earlier post by Mr. Corn that the effectiveness of "going negative" on Obama was a heaping pile of warmed over horseshit.

    I just found an article that highlites exactly that proposition:

    Clinton lowers expectations in Wyoming and Miss
    Perhaps mindful that her audiences in Mississippi and Wyoming might view Obama favorably, Clinton has leaned more toward criticizing the Bush administration and has mostly refrained from direct attacks on her opponent, other than a few veiled references to him with phrases like "reality versus rhetoric" and "solutions over sound bites."

    This is an instance where the Clinton's divisive style has a negative effect.

    OK, here goes a two-link test

    Posted by: Pandemoniac Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:35 AM

  92. I posted a comment to the effect that I hope this crud blows up in her face.

    I really - REALLY hope BHO rises above.

    If he IS the real deal (and I think he is) he will beat her by being better - not by being worse or lower.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 8, 2008 11:47 AM

  93. Obama wins Texas!
    Posted by: capt March 8, 2008 11:29 AM

    That's precisely what I was leading up to. The story at Josh Marshall's place is that HRC bitch slapped Obama and "won" in Ohio, TX and RI. This ignores THREE Undeniable (and seemingly overlooked) facts that disprove this ridiculous contention:

    1. Hillary got fewer delegates out of Texas and VT on March 4th. In effect, Obama WON TX and VT. Factoring in Ohio and Rhode Island, I can count the delegates that HRC netted on March 4th on my fingers. I don't believe she netted more than 10, even under the most optimistic counts. As I said recently, Senator Obama will win back the same number of net delegates in Wyoming and Mississippi. Pennsylvania will be a wash like Ohio and Senator Obama will win out the string and drown HRC's Superdelegates with ads seeking their support. He will win the nomination before the convention, hands down.

    2. Obama gained 8 more delegates in California as the counts are being certified there and are practically done. That in and of itself gains back the delegates that HRC netted on March 4th.

    3. HRC was up by over 20 points in TX and OH before March 4th and he ate up her lead in 2 weeks. Any lead that she has in Pennsylvania will be gone by the time Aprill 22nd rolls ar