Clintonites Hype the Small Stuff to Play the Victim

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The communications strategy of the Hillary Clinton campaign reminds me of the old gag about the kid who killed his parents and then begged the court for mercy because he was an orphan.

Howard Wolfson, please don't now say I'm comparing you and other Clinton aides to murderers.

On Monday's conference call, Wolfson and Phil Singer were in a huff. Though Clinton that day was giving a major address outlining her proposals for dealing with the housing credit crisis, her two top spinners were not hailing her initiatives. Instead, they were beating on the Obama camp for mounting what they claimed was a mega-negative campaign against their gal.

What had their tail feathers all ruffled this morning? Well, an Obama national security adviser, retired General Tony McPeak, had compared Bill Clinton to Joe McCarthy after Clinton had made a remark that some Obama-ites believed slighted Obama's patriotism and then Gordon Fischer, a leading Obama supporter in Iowa, wrote on his own blog that this Clinton comment was "a stain on his legacy much worse, much deeper, than the one on Monica's blue dress."

Fischer quickly apologized for the remark. But that didn't stop Wolfson and Singer from pointing to this one sentence as proof, yes proof, that the Obama crew was running a super-sleazy crusade against Clinton. By the way, in the same call, they noted that Obama has so far "failed" the commander in chief test. What's their basis for such a claim? He did not win a majority of the votes in Ohio and Texas. By that standard, Clinton has "failed' the commander in chief test in more states than Obama and with more Democratic voters than he has. But I digress.

The point is this: The Clintonites denigrate Obama on one of the most critical fronts of this campaign, with Clinton herself having gone so far as to suggest that John McCain would be a better C-in-C than Obama, but then they build up these tempests-in-a-blog to play the victim. On the conference call, Singer acted so outraged over Fischer's one sentence, saying it was too awful a "personal" remark to repeat. Reality check: Bill Clinton did stain that dress; he did have an affair with a subordinate in the White House; he did put at risk his presidency and the work of thousands of people who supported him, and he did lie about it. The stain is there. Even if the impeachment crusade of the self-righteous GOPers was misguided and excessive, that does not mean Bill Clinton should get a pass on all that.

As for McPeak's comment...so what? He thought Clinton was questioning Obama's patriotism. He fired back hard. It's not a big deal--especially when James Carville, a top Clinton supporter, has called Bill Richardson "Judas" for having endorsed Obama instead of HIllary Clinton. In human history, Judas outranks McCarthy in villainy.

As I write, there's another Clinton conference call scheduled in 30 minutes. I shudder to think what new offense against humanity the Clintonites will ascribe to the Obama campaign. For a gang that's willing to blast Obama with practically anything at any time, the Clintonites are far too sensitive about the incoming. Rather than hype controversies that barely exist, they ought to stick to promoting Clinton's proposed remedies for the economy--that is, provide more light and less smoke.

    Comments

  1. Regrettably, casting Hillary as victim is paying off big-time among her "cult of victims/MSM does not like her solely because she's a woman" crowd.

    Do keep us posted on the newest victim lore from upcoming conference call.

    Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:37 AM

  2. Besides, David, Hillary camp is going for any news to drown stuff like this out:

    David Brooks in NYTimes today, "the Long Defeat", re HRC's 5% odds of winning nomination before Superdelegates weigh in at convention.

    " ...For the sake of that 5 percent, this will be the sourest spring.

    ... When you step back and think about it, she is amazing. She possesses the audacity of hopelessness. "

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/opinion/25brooks.html?em&ex=1206590400&en=6b390342506e7ca3&ei=5087%0A
    ======

    Sen. McCain appreciates HRC's efforts in his behalf and kitchen sink campaigning.

    Posted by: dog's eye view Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:46 AM

  3. The more outrageous and crazy the HRC camp sounds all I can think of is:

    "The last throes - as it were"

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 11:31 AM

  4. Even Peter Daou is publishing articles saying its Obama who is mud-slinging, not the Clintons. I hate this shyte and I 'll tell you why, its not worth trying to figure out who's right. They're debasing themselves arguing over who "started it". I don't remember this shit when Bill was running. Huh, must be something unique Hillary brings to the table.

    Posted by: Neil Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:13 PM

  5. Hmm. Well, there was a wide circulation media criticism magazine in the 1990s that had a cover “recreating” the “stained blue dress.” When I finally realized what it depicted, I thought it was in poor taste, but it was a matter of public record what it alluded to. I now cannot remember the name of the magazine or the publisher, so I will say nothing, before I “misspeak.”

    I am getting tired of this back-and-forth, but I have to say, after watching James Carville twice on CNN yesterday, where he declined to apologize and said he was quoted accurately and in context for his remarks about Bill Richardson being a “Judas” to, er, either Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton, I am more weary of the HRC cohort that the Obama camp. I am ready to boycott CNN and CNN.com until either after the election or until Carville is asked to take a leave of absence.

    What has happened is that this first election since the Supreme Court selected a president in 2000 that could have been inspiring for future aspirants to Higher Office has disintegrated into the same old-same old. It doesn’t even feel like Karl Rove is gone, just cloned into “mini-Karls” that give sniper fire from the horizon. In the past, books with the name, “The Making of the President,” have been written about the men who ascended to that level. When such a book is written about the woman or man who ascends to that office in this election year, I pray and hope that it has at least one line in it documenting how all involved put aside their rancor and united for the common good of the nation.

    Pipe dream? As of right now, you betcha.

    Posted by: Wahidiyya Kosmotikos Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:37 PM

  6. I'm afraid of Obama's angry black Rev. Wright but I'm more afraid of John McCain's notorious temper and how it figures in his decision making.

    Posted by: Neil Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:50 PM

  7. We quit the M$M years ago.

    No CNN, MSNBC, or any cable news "infotainment."

    We are no less informed and are less subjected to the deceptions and misrepresentation of facts.

    It has allowed us (me and my better half) to relax and look at the news cycle with personal objectivity.

    There is nothing we miss and we have no reason to return to the trough of crud the M$M offer.

    The M$M are the corporate media outlet and are "selling" stories not reporting facts or offering meaningful opinion.

    IMHO

    How cool would it be if enough people quit watching to put these shills and liars out of business.

    As long as they have an audience they will do what they do, sell BS packaged as "news" to promote a product (sometimes a candidate)


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 12:55 PM

  8. The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.

    Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), Mostly Harmless

    ******

    I think the HRC camp thought nothing could possibly go wrong with her campaign. She would crush any opposition with her name and her history.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:05 PM

  9. This is all inside baseball that the voters despise and ignore. HRC is doing herself a disservice by paying guys to nit-pick and whine.

    She has solid accomplishments and good ideas, so why waste your 7 seconds of broadcast time to poop on a rival?

    Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:09 PM

  10. "why waste your 7 seconds of broadcast time to poop on a rival?"

    Because she has lost and cannot match BHO's charisma, oratory or abilities.

    What else is there but to attack?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:16 PM

  11. What else is there but to attack?
    ~~~~~~~~

    Exactly, this is what democrats do best~~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:32 PM

  12. Playing the victim card is all HRC has left, but it won't be enough. I usually turn on the tv first thing in the morning (more in an effort to keep myself awake, not actually expecting to learn anything) and to my surprise they were still talking about her "misspeaking" about the Bosnia trip. This story just might be getting enough momentum in the M$M to become the final nail in her campaign's coffin.

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:49 PM

  13. More attacking, aimed at neo-cons and the like, might help:

    http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/80507/

    entitled "Fighting Words: How to Humiliate -- and Convert -- a Right-Winger"

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 1:58 PM

  14. Have to make this very quick. Am under sustained sniper fire, and must be ready to run across the tarmac to avoid hostilities. No stopping for silly things like receiving notes from little girls.

    Leaving soon to solve the crisis in Northern Ireland. Then it's on to accept my Nobels for curing cancer and developing time travel.

    Beam me up, Scotty.

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 2:51 PM

  15. Was this a stopped clock moment where Bush was actually on the side of right?
    **********
    Court backs Texas in dispute with Bush
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/supremecourtopinions/2008-03-25-scotus-bush_N.htm?csp=34

    By a 6-3 vote, the court said that neither a 2004 decision by the International Court of Justice nor a memorandum by President Bush overrides Texas authority to deny Medellin another hearing. The International Court of Justice had ruled in 2004 that Medellin and 50 other Mexican nationals on state death rows deserved review of their cases because they had not been advised of their consular rights under the Vienna Convention.

    Bush had issued a memorandum declaring that states had to abide by the decision.
    **********
    I don't want to defend anyone guilty of anything heinous like rape or murder, but to deny someone a fair defence by not informing them of their rights is wrong.

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 3:48 PM

  16. Tom,

    lolololololo

    Very funny!

    HRC - think NAFTA and Penn?

    BHO will come close or beating her if the M$M gets all HRC-is-pro-NAFTA on her.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:18 PM

  17. Maybe LBH could get better by using "MindMentor: Robot Shrink Does Psychotherapy on the Cheap":

    http://www.wired.com/techbiz/startups/news/2008/03/mindmentorhttp://www.wired.com/techbiz/startups/news/2008/03/mindmentor

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:25 PM

  18. I must be in good spirits -

    You people are all CRACKING me up!

    Maybe I too need a mind mentor . . . .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:35 PM

  19. Pandonial said Obamas racists church/pastor issue has already gone away. I wonder if Pandonial has unicorns in his dreams also?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ELECTION 2008
    Obama-church newsletter:
    Israel making 'ethnic bomb'
    Accuses 'apartheid' state of creating
    weapon 'that kills blacks and Arabs'

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    By Aaron Klein
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily

    Sanctuary at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago
    JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church published an open letter from a Palestinian activist that labels Israel an "apartheid" regime and claims the Jewish state worked on an "ethnic bomb" that kills "blacks and Arabs."

    The letter, discovered by the blog Sweetness & Light, was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks prompted the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech last week.

    "I must tell you that Israel was the closest ally to the white supremacists of South Africa," wrote the letter's author, Ali Baghdadi. "In fact, South Africa allowed Israel to test its nuclear weapons in the ocean off South Africa. The Israelis were given a blank check: they could test whenever they desired and did not even have to ask permission. Both worked on an ethnic bomb that kills Blacks and Arabs."

    The June 10, 2007, newsletter, which is still available at Obama's church's website, identifies Baghdadi as an Arab-American activist, writer and columnist who "acted as a Middle East advisor to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the founder of the Nation of Islam, as well as Minister Louis Farrakhan."

    The piece is titled "An open letter to Oprah," referring to talk show giant Oprah Winfrey, who last year accepted an invitation to visit Israel offered to her by Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel. Winfrey had been a member of Obama's church but reportedly departed in 1986.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:38 PM

  20. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ELECTION 2008
    Obama 'money man' tied to 'house n-ggers' pastor
    Indicted fundraiser Rezko also raised cash for senator's spiritual adviser, superdelegate

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Posted: March 24, 2008
    9:37 pm Eastern

    © 2008 WorldNetDaily


    Antoin "Tony" Rezko

    Indicted Illinois businessman Antoin Rezko, a key fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama, also raised money for a controversial pastor and superdelegate linked to the Democratic presidential candidate, WND has learned.

    James Meeks – an Illinois state senator, pastor of one of the largest churches in the state and a declared spiritual adviser for Obama – came under fire for comments rebroadcast last week calling white American mayors "slave masters" and referring to black preachers and politicians who "protect" the "white man" as "house n-ggers."

    According to Illinois State Board of Elections records, Rezko's businesses, Rezmar Corp. and Rezko Concession, contributed $9,000 to Meeks' campaign funds in 2002. A Rezko employee contributed $5,000 to Meeks that same year, and Ali Ata, Rezko's co-defendant, contributed $2,000, the records show.

    Rezko is on trial in federal court on charges arising from a multimillion-dollar hospital contract scandal. Scores of media reports describe Rezko as an Obama friend and a key campaign fundraiser and networker for the presidential candidate.

    At first, Rezko was linked to Obama through two 2005 real estate purchases in which the senator bought a Chicago mansion at less than the asking price on the same day Rezko and his wife, Rita, purchased a lot adjacent to the property. Rita Rezko then sold part of the lot to Obama.

    Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times the real estate purchase was "an area where I can see sort of a lapse in judgment, where I could have said, 'No, I'm not sure that's a good idea,'"


    Later, Obama's campaign disclosed Rezko provided or raised up to $160,000 in contributions.

    Then in interviews last week with two Chicago newspapers, Obama admitted Rezko's contributions were $250,000, nearly $90,000 more than the campaign previously acknowledged.

    The presidential candidate explained the $160,000 figure only represented the total for his 2004 U.S. Senate race. He conceded Rezko also helped raise between $60,000 and $90,000 more for his state senate contests and his unsuccessful congressional campaign in 2000.

    On Sunday, Obama's campaign released to the Chicago Tribune documents showing Rezko was among 117 people who worked on Obama's 2004 U.S. Senate campaign.

    Rezko's funding to Meeks comes after the Illinois religious and political figure came under fire for racist remarks.

    "We don't have slave masters, we got mayors," Meeks said in an August 2006 sermon broadcast on a Chicago community television channel.

    The speech was aired last week by Fox News Channel's "Hannity and Colmes" and discussed on Sean Hannity's radio show last week.

    Continued Meeks in the sermon: "But they are still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able to be educated. You got some preachers that are house n-ggers. You got some elected officials that are house n-ggers. Rather than them try and break this up, they're gonna fight you to protect that white man."

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:40 PM

  21. ELECTION 2008
    Another Obama supporter has Farrakhan links
    Priest also exhibits low tolerance for 2nd Amendment rights

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    Posted: March 24, 2008
    9:45 pm Eastern


    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily


    The ranks of Sen. Barack Obama's supporters in his bid to become president of the United States have been found to include a white priest of a mostly black church who has links to Nation of Islam chief Louis Farrakhan and an apparently low level of tolerance for the 2nd Amendment.

    The supporter is Father Michael Pfleger, a white Roman Catholic priest of the predominantly African-American St. Sabrina Church on Chicago's South Side.

    Pfleger currently is listed on Obama's 2008 presidential campaign website as being one of the "people of faith" who endorse Obama's campaign.

    The endorsement includes a photo of Pfleger and a testimonial in which Pfleger compares Obama to Robert F. Kennedy, "I haven’t heard anyone since Robert F. Kennedy who is causing such an emotional awakening to the political possibilities."

    According to the Chicago Tribune, Pfleger gave Obama political contributions of $1,500 between 1995 and 2001, including $200 in April 2001, about three months after Obama announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs.

    The newspaper quoted Pfleger as saying he made those donations personally, not on behalf of the church or to win grants.

    Another newspaper article, this one published on July 2007 in the Christian Science Monitor, quoted Pfleger as saying he has known Obama for more than 20 years since 1985 when Obama moved to Chicago "for a job organizing impoverished South Side residents in campaigns for jobs, schools, and housing."

    Pfleger's open support of Farrakhan also is documented easily.

    According to a CBS local Chicago television report dated on May 25, 2007, Farrakhan returned to St. Sabina following serious surgery for cancer, to give an hour-long fiery speech to a packed congregation.

    "The 73-year-old Farrakhan's return to the church he visited many times before, seemingly as animated and energetic as ever, fulfilled a promise he'd made to its pastor, Father Michael Pfleger," according to the story written by CBS reporter Jay Levine.

    The CBS story included a video clip of Farrakhan's speech to the church in which Pfleger can be seen accompanying Farrakhan into the church and seated behind Farrakhan as he gave his speech from the pulpit.

    Several examples of Pfleger's radical street protest politics also are documented fully and available for easy reference on the Internet.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:42 PM

  22. Clinton: Wright 'would not have been my pastor'


    By Mike Wereschagin, David Brown and Salena Zito
    TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, March 25, 2008


    Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a wide-ranging interview today with Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporters and editors, said she would have left her church if her pastor made inflammatory remarks akin to those uttered by Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor.
    "He would not have been my pastor," Clinton said. "You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:43 PM

  23. Maybe if Obama hides out in the Bahamas long enough this will go away~

    Not!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:44 PM

  24. Democratic Party Official: Clinton Pursuing 'The Tonya Harding Option'

    March 25, 2008 3:44 PM

    l just spoke with a Democratic Party official, who asked for anonymity so as to speak candidly, who said we in the media are all missing the point of this Democratic fight.

    The delegate math is difficult for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the official said. But it's not a question of CAN she achieve it. Of course she can, the official said.

    The question is -- what will Clinton have to do in order to achieve it?

    What will she have to do to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, in order to eke out her improbable victory?

    She will have to "break his back," the official said. She will have to destroy Obama, make Obama completely unacceptable.

    "Her securing the nomination is certainly possible - but it will require exercising the 'Tonya Harding option.'" the official said. "Is that really what we Democrats want?"

    The Tonya Harding Option -- the first time I've heard it put that way.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/dnc-official-cl.html

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:52 PM

  25. Say it ain't so, Mr Charisma, Obama is stretching the truth to make him look good? Nah!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obama And Clinton Embellish Their Records
    Washington Post: Both Democratic Candidates Overstate Roles In Key Legislation


    (Washingtonpost.com) This story was written by Shailagh Murray and Jonathan Weisman.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    After weeks of arduous negotiations, on April 6, 2006, a bipartisan group of senators burst out of the "President's Room," just off the Senate chamber, with a deal on new immigration policy.

    As the half-dozen senators -- including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- headed to announce their plan, they met Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who made a request common when Capitol Hill news conferences are in the offing: "Hey, guys, can I come along?" And when Obama went before the microphones, he was generous with his list of senators to congratulate -- a list that included himself.

    "I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, Dick Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who've actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out," he said.

    To Senate staff members, who had been arriving for 7 a.m. negotiating sessions for weeks, it was a galling moment. Those morning sessions had attracted just three to four senators a side, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) recalled, each deeply involved in the issue. Obama was not one of them. But in a presidential contest involving three sitting senators, embellishment of legislative records may be an inevitability, Specter said with a shrug.

    Unlike governors, business leaders or vice presidents, senators -- the last to win the presidency was John F. Kennedy in 1960 -- are not executives. They cannot be held to account for the state of their states, their companies or their administrations. What they do have is the mark they leave on the nation's laws -- and in Obama's brief three-year tenure, as well as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's seven-year hitch, those marks are far from indelible.

    "It's not an unusual matter for senators to take a little extra credit," Specter said.

    Both Obama and Clinton have tried to make the most of it, and Clinton has attempted to bolster her Senate resume with her less-than-transparent track record as first lady. The release Wednesday of more than 11,000 pages of documents from Clinton's years in the White House sent reporters and political opponents scrambling for evidence that might contradict her lofty assessment of her performance in those years.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 4:52 PM

  26. I hope you all are reading over at MoJo some really good stuff - too many to mention one by one buy JS is back to doing some good work.

    Harry Reid says the issue will be resolved?

    Harry Reid, Rainmaker?

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/03/7748_harry_reid_rain.html

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:02 PM

  27. Here is a question for all of us.

    If the war in Iraq is so unpopular with the American electorate, why is Senator McCain, its most vocal proponent, in a statistical dead heat with either of the Democrat Senators in the RCP average of all the polling?

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:02 PM

  28. Reverend Wright Will Be A Problem For Obama

    CBS News ^ | March 24, 2008 | Michael Barone


    Will the preachings of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright continue to be a problem for Barack Obama? The balance of opinion, after everyone has had a chance to digest Obama's March 18 speech, seems to be yes. Or at least that's how I read such varied commentators as ABC News's Jake Tapper, Charles Krauthammer, the New Republic's Dayo Opolade, University of Chicago Prof. Charles Lipson, the New York Daily News's Michael Goodwin, and the international treasure Mark Steyn in the Orange County Register.

    In my Creators Syndicate column this week, I look at these comments from a somewhat different view. In Democratic primaries and caucuses, Obama has been winning extraordinary percentages of support from black voters and young voters. His support from black voters is no surprise, though one must remember that back in November 2007, only four months ago, he was running behind Hillary Clinton among blacks in some polls in some contests. His support from young voters--from the millennial generation, to use the terminology of William Strauss and Neal Howe, rose to extraordinary levels much earlier in the cycle--and was reflected not just in polling results but in volunteer efforts and campaign contributions. I cited Morley Winograd and Michael Hais's very interesting, just-published book Millennial Makeover for the proposition that these young voters find racial conflict and anger very off-putting. Obama's portrait of himself as a leader who transcends race has been very attractive, I think, to millennial voters--responsible as much as anything else for their allegiance. To these same voters, the rantings of Reverend Wright are profoundly unattractive. Will the facts that Obama has been a member of Wright's congregation for more than 20 years and has named Wright as his spiritual mentor diminish Obama in millennials' eyes? I don't know, but it's a critically important question. If the answer is yes, then the chance that Democratic superdelegates will award the nomination to Hillary Clinton seems to rise.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:14 PM

  29. Tom,

    Are you asking if the war polling is accurate or if the American people are a one issue voter?

    Are you asking if there are GOPhers that would vote for the GOP candidate in lock-step idiocy regardless of the unpopularity of the war?

    Are you asking if progressives, democrats and independents are all against the war?

    Simply put, I think you are applying to data sets to two different questions?

    What you might be looking for is the breakdown of anti versus pro war from within each party or from those who support a specific candidate?

    It is pollstrology and there are many surveys out there. Some make more sense than others - it is a crap-shoot.

    The fact that the average polling error for the democratic primary in South Carolina was 16.6% - that is huge and indicates problems with the way the scientific polling service factoring in the new and inspired voters.

    I think a similar question would be how can 76% of the American people want change from Bush when only ____% is democrat?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:38 PM

  30. Still, the Democrats have an excellent chance of recapturing the White House. The latest nbc News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that 76 percent of voters want the next president to take a path different from President Bush's and that 17 percent want something similar. Only 34 percent say they are better off than they were four years ago, and 43 percent say they are worse off. But unless they get their act together, Clinton and Obama could botch their golden opportunity.

    (from US News and World Report)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:42 PM

  31. Captain,

    The answers to all your questions are, "yes".

    Senators Clinton and Obama could not only botch their own chances, but this interncine warfare could cause problems down-ballot, especially if Senator Obama is denied his chance.

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 5:53 PM

  32. Saudi Shura council to discuss plan for sudden radioactive hazards


    dpa
    dpa - International News Service in English

    Mar 22, 2008 07:56 EST

    Riyadh (dpa) - The Saudi Shura council will secretly discuss national plans to deal with any sudden nuclear and radioactive hazards that may affect the kingdom following experts' warnings of possible attacks on Iran's Bushehr nuclear reactors, media reports said Saturday.

    http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=96940/

    ******

    This came the day after Cheney visited the Saudis?

    All in favor of nuclear war? (show of hands)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:01 PM

  33. Obama’s Big Speech: Too Little, Too Late

    Family Security Matters ^ | 25 March 2008 | Ed Koch


    Published: March 25, 2008
    Obama’s Big Speech: Too Little, Too Late

    Barack Obama’s speech last week addressing his 20-year relationship with his radical pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was very well done, yet unconvincing.

    Obama sought to explain that relationship and why he could not end this close association, despite the minister's hate-filled rhetoric. He said, “There will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Rev. Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church?”

    Yes, those are the questions that people are asking.

    Many of Rev. Wright’s incendiary statements are on videos sold by his church. Minister Louis Farrakhan, a friend of Rev. Wright with whom he traveled to visit Muammar Khadaffi in Libya, also makes his sermons and those of others associated with the Nation of Islam available for sale. Their attacks on the U.S. and Israel often coincide with those of Rev. Wright.

    Rev. Wright’s sermons charge that the U.S. government gives African-Americans drugs, created AIDS and is deliberately infecting blacks with that disease. His sermons claim that the U.S. unjustifiably nuclear bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II, and that 9/11 and the deaths of 3,000 Americans were caused by U.S. foreign policy. He alleges Israeli state terrorism against the Palestinians; calling Israel a “dirty word” and “racist country.” He blames Israel for 9/11 and supports the divestment campaign against it, denouncing “Zionism.” His venomous thoughts are summed up in his most discussed sermon in which he says the U.S. government “wants us to sing God Bless America. No, no, not God Bless America. God damn America. God damn America for killing innocent people.”

    Senator Obama in his speech acknowledged that the rantings of his minister are “inexcusable,” but stated, “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

    Before we discuss his grandmother, let’s examine the impact of Rev. Wright’s statements on the Senator’s two daughters. Nothing says it better than a song from the musical South Pacific, to wit: “You have to be taught to hate and fear…You’ve got to be carefully taught.” Few dispute that Rev. Wright’s sermons are filled with hate. Why didn’t Sen. Obama stand up in the church and denounce his hateful statements or, at the very least, argue privately with his minister? It was horrifying to see on a video now viewed across America the congregation rise from the pews to applaud their minister’s rants.

    Now, as to Obama’s grandmother: There was a time spanning the 1970s to the mid-1990s when many blacks and whites in large American cities expressed the same feelings on street crime held by Obama’s grandmother. Indeed, Reverend Jesse Jackson made similar comments in 1993 at a meeting of his organization, Operation Push, devoted to street crime. According to a November 29, 1993, article in the Chicago Sun Times, he said, “’We must face the No. 1 critical issue of our day. It is youth crime in general and black-on-black crime in particular.’ Then Jackson told the audience, ‘There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved….After all we have been through,’ he said. ‘Just to think we can’t walk down our own streets, how humiliating.’”

    Isn’t that exactly what Obama’s grandmother was referring to? To equate her fears, similar to Jesse Jackson’s, with Wright’s anti-American, anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-Israel rantings is despicable coming from a grandson. In today’s vernacular, he threw her under the wheels of the bus to keep his presidential campaign rolling. For shame.

    What is it that I and others expected Obama to do? A great leader with conscience and courage would have stood up and faced down anyone who engages in such conduct. I expect a President of the United States to have the strength of character to denounce and disown enemies of America – foreign and domestic -- and yes, even his friends and confidants when they get seriously out of line.

    What if a minister in a church attended primarily by white congregants or a rabbi in a synagogue attended primarily by Jews made comparable statements that were hostile to African-Americans? I have no doubt that the congregants would have immediately stood up and openly denounced the offending cleric. Others would have criticized that cleric in private. Some would surely have ended their relationships with their congregation. Obama didn’t do any of these things. His recent condemnations of Wright’s hate-filled speech are, in my opinion, a case of too little, too late.

    It is also disturbing to me that Obama’s wife, Michelle, during a speech in Wisconsin last month, said, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.”

    Strange. This is a woman who has had a good life, with opportunities few whites or blacks have been given. When she entered Princeton and Harvard and later became a partner in a prestigious law firm, didn’t she feel proud to be an American? When she and the Senator bought their new home, was there no feeling of accomplishment and pride in being a U.S. citizen? When her husband was elected to the state legislature and subsequently to the United States Senate, didn’t she feel proud of her country?

    Sen. Obama was asked if he thought his speech changed any minds. He replied he didn’t think so, and certainly not of those who weren’t already for him. A more important question is, whether his 20-year relationship with Wright has done lasting damage to his candidacy. We will soon know.


    FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Ed Koch is the former mayor of New York City.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:02 PM

  34. No wonder Obama wants to disinfranchise Florida voters, he belongs to a Jew hating church just like a typical progressive Jew hater.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:07 PM

  35. Clinton's Pennsylvania Lead Still In Double-Digits (Barely)

    Hillary Clinton is leading Barack Obama in Pennsylvania by 49 percent to 39 percent in a Rasmussen Reports poll conducted March 24. That compares to the 51 percent to 38 percent lead she held in Rasmussen's March 12 survey and the 51 percent to 35 percent margin over Obama reported in a Franklin & Marshall poll conducted March 11-16. Pennsylvania, which votes April 22, hazs 188 delegates.

    Rasmussen said that 87 percent of Pennsylvania Democrats had seen, heard or read about the controversial statements of Obama's ex-pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Of those 47 percent said it made no difference to their vote, 36 percent said the controversy made them less likely to vote for Obama and 15 percent said it made them more likely to support him.

    *****

    HRC would have to win 90/10 to make her case.

    Stick a fork in her - she's done.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:30 PM

  36. Yesterday I said it's a pre 4/11 world. Yo asked what that meant and capt said it may have been a typo.

    For another 17 days it is a pre 4/11 world and we discuss the politics of Clinton and Obama.

    Cheney visited Israel, Saudi Arabia and Iraq this month.

    He told the Israelis not to worry we would not lift a finger to deter their efforts to defend themselves.

    Then he met with the Saudis who are reported in the German press to be preparing to protect themselves from nuclear fallout. You have a google button.

    Last year we moved some nukes around and the government treated it like some media joke, but court martialed the officers involved.

    McLame says that the al qaida are being trained in Iran. No matter how many times he is corrected he convolutes this theory several times.

    Israel will not attack Iran. They do not have enough military deterrent to protect themselves after such an attack.

    Someone would have to be insane to follow a policy that would lead to nuclear confrontation with Iran. Do you no anyone like that?

    Money and Power. The bush and dick gang has squandered 20 trillion dollars on war, debt and trade deficits. 40 trillion when you adjust for the dollar being worth 50cents. I have no way to calculate how much profit they could make from attacking Iran. I do know it would feed the fear and keep them in control for another 4 years.

    And that would be referred to as a post 4/11 world.

    Posted by: geof01 Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:39 PM

  37. Jewish Group Wants Obama Aide Removed

    Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:45 PM

    By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size


    The Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) today called on Sen. Barack Obama to remove Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak as his military advisor and national campaign co-chairman.


    "By choosing to have a military advisor and national campaign co-chairman like General McPeak, serious questions and doubts are once again being raised about Senator Obama's positions and judgment on Middle East issues," said RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks.


    In a 2003 interview with the Oregonian, Gen. McPeak resorted to old stereotypes and unfortunate language by blaming the lack of progress with the Israeli-Palestinian peace process on the undue political influence of American Jewry. The problem, said McPeak is "New York City. Miami. We have a large vote -- vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it."


    "Rather than putting the blame where it belongs -- on the Palestinian leadership and their continued reliance on terror, General McPeak finds it more convenient to blame American Jewry and their perceived influence," said Brooks. "This is the same dangerous and disturbing canard being promoted by the likes of Jimmy Carter and authors Mearsheimer and Walt in their book, The Israel Lobby."


    In addition, Gen. McPeak has a long history of criticizing Israel for not returning to the 1967 borders or returning the Golan Heights to Syria, as he wrote in Foreign Affairs in April 1976.


    "Senator Obama continues to surround himself with advisors holding troubling and disturbing anti-Israel bias. General McPeak's views are alarming. We call on Senator Obama to immediately remove General McPeak from his campaign leadership role and as a key advisor," said Brooks.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 6:40 PM

  38. "In addition, Gen. McPeak has a long history of criticizing Israel for not returning to the 1967 borders or returning the Golan Heights to Syria, as he wrote in Foreign Affairs in April 1976."

    How dare he insist a country stop stealing land!

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:08 PM

  39. "In addition, Gen. McPeak has a long history of criticizing Israel for not returning to the 1967 borders or returning the Golan Heights to Syria, as he wrote in Foreign Affairs in April 1976."

    How dare he insist a country stop stealing land!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Maybe he should demand China quit murdering monks and free Tibet?

    Nah, he's just a Jew hater!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:16 PM

  40. DB, this ones for you buddy~~~

    UN Climate Panel in 'Panic Mode' as Earth Fails to Warm, Scientist says

    CanadaFreePress.com ^ | March 25, 2008 | Geologist Dr. Bob Carter

    Note: Below is by Paleoclimate scientist Dr. Bob Carter of Australia's James Cook University, who has published numerous peer-reviewed papers.

    Excerpt: UN climate body in panic mode as satellite temperatures turn down and a hard winter lashes both hemispheres [...]

    The IPCC’s 2007 final Summary for Policymakers shows that the climate alarmists are at last on the run. Their evidence for dangerous, human-caused global warming, always slim, now lies exposed in tatters for all to see. In contrast, the alternative, persuasive and non-alarmist view of climate change is well summarized in two recently issued and readily available documents.

    The first is a letter to the Secretary General of the United Nations [...]

    The second is the Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change. [...]

    The evidence for dangerous global warming adduced by the IPCC has never been strong on empirical science. Endless circumstantial scare campaigns have been run about melting glaciers, more droughts and storms and floods, sea-level rise and polar bears, but all founder on one inescapable problem – as does Mr. Al Gore’s over-hyped science fiction film. And that is that we live on a naturally variable planet. [...]

    Stuck with the absence of empirical evidence for dangerous warming or abnormal change, in 2001 the IPCC turned to graphmanship, giving prominence in its 3AR to the so-called “hockey-stick” record of temperature over the last 1000 years. The hockey-stick graphic, which appeared to show dramatic increases of temperature during the 20th century compared with earlier times, has now been exposed as statistical chicanery and, thankfully, is nowhere to be seen in the 4AR.

    No hockey-stick and no empirical evidence, what is a man to do? Well, obviously, turn to virtual reality rather than real reality: PlayStation 4 here we come.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:46 PM

  41. Obama releases tax returns and shows what a stingy bastard he is with his millions. Donates 1% to charities but gives 10 times that to his racist pastor?

    No wonder the Prog-nazis want to raise taxes~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:50 PM

  42. Criticism of Isreal = Jew hating? Could you use a more stereotypical attack to try to shut up the opposition? I'm sorry, I forgot you don't give a damn about being taken seriously. Maybe you are just bitter Gen. McPeak saw the light and switched sides.
    **********
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrill_McPeak#Post-military_career
    In 1996, McPeak served as Oregon state chairman for the Bob Dole for President campaign. During the presidential election of 2000 McPeak endorsed George W. Bush and served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush.[1]

    As the military and foreign policy of the Bush administration coalesced, however, McPeak expressed strong objections, especially with regard to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. McPeak later openly campaigned for Howard Dean's nomination, and when Dean withdrew, acted as an adviser for the John Kerry campaign. He was also one of twenty-seven signatories to the statement of the "Committee of Diplomats & Commanders for Change" calling the Bush Administration a failure at "preserving national security" and calling for Bush not to be re-elected[citation needed].

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 7:53 PM

  43. Minchin denies climate change man-made
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/minchin-denies-climate-change-manmade/2007/03/14/1173722560417.html
    Senator Minchin also referred Mr Kiernan to a critique of the economic review of global warming by Sir Nicholas Stern. One author of the critique was the retired James Cook University professor Bob Carter. Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community. He is on the research committee at the Institute of Public Affairs, a think tank that has received funding from oil and tobacco companies, and whose directors sit on the boards of companies in the fossil fuel sector.

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 8:01 PM

  44. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/25/85626/5111/369/483717

    Obama was on to the vultures A YEAR AGO!


    *****

    A little pro-BHO propaganda but a good read just the same.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 25, 2008 10:02 PM

  45. The gamblers call it a "tell" or a "tic". It is an indication that someone is going to bet a certain way based upon a certain hand. Good gamblers can spot them and watch for them in their opponents.

    Watch Senator Clinton. More importantly, listen to her. Most importantly, read her speeches and/or interviews.

    Whenever she starts to tell a tall one, she begins with, "well", and/or "you know". She is not using these speech defects the way the rest of us do, as a pause for a brain lapse. She seems to be using these interjections to start a new tall tale, one on which she wishes to make an emphatic point.

    If nothing else, it's a fun exercise. Try it next time you happen on to her speaking. Read her absolutely stunning interview with Mark Halperin in Time. After a while, it becomes like fingernails on a blackboard.

    Tom

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | March 26, 2008 10:26 AM

  46. "After a while, it becomes like fingernails on a blackboard"

    Sadly, it starts out like fingernails on a blackboard then devolves into nauseum ad nauseum for me.

    Interesting take on her tell, I bet you nailed it.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 26, 2008 10:40 AM

  47. Obama saw this coming, why hasn't the media said anything about this??? We know why....
    Guys, I am posting this on as many comment pages and blogs, as I can, so if you see if more then once, I apoligize, but it is worth looking at.
    For all the Obama haters out there, please check out the following:

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/obamas-year-old-letter-to-bern.php

    Can your candidate say that they did this???
    Maybe he is the future!!

    Take this and post it

    Posted by: lvdragonlady Author Profile Page | March 26, 2008 12:21 PM

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