In January I observed that Barack Obama had a problem:
If the Democratic presidential race is between him and Hillary Clinton--sorry, Senator Edwards--it boils down, in a way to this: Clinton says, believe in my resume; Obama says, believe in me.
Clinton is pitching herself as a woman of experience who can start working for you and our children on Day One. Look, 35 years of policy wonkery and advocacy. Look, a record of accomplishment. (Fill in the number of children in fill in the state have health insurance because of her.) Look, years of traveling overseas as First Lady, years of hard toil--including working with (gasp!) Republicans--in the Senate, and years of doing political battle in the trenches. All of this is measurable and confirmable. A voter can easily evaluate her case and judge whether she's right for the job.Obama is selling himself as...himself. That is, Obama is insisting that he has the ability to create a new politics--a transformative, overcoming-the-divide politics--because of who he is, because of his character and considerable personal attributes. Sure, he points to his past as a community organizer and civil rights lawyers and to his work in the Illinois state senator and the U.S. Senate to bolster his argument that he possesses the right stuff. But his is not a campaign of resume-waving. He's running on his soul. And Obama goes further than asking voters to hire him as their advocate. He issues an invitation: join me in this grand cause to change politics, change government, and change the nation. He speaks of his campaign as a movement and compares it to the great social movements of America's past.
With Obama, it's not about his career highlights, it's about him. To buy his case, a voter must believe in him, have faith in him, place hope in him--must have (or feel) a connection with him. And this is where the problem kicks in.
I noted that given the short time available to Obama prior to the Super Tuesday contests of February 5, he would not have the opportunity to connect directly with enough voters because he would be busy hopscotching about the country. Now he has the opposite problem.
After the Wyoming caucus this Saturday and the Mississippi primary on Tuesday, there will be no caucus or election until the critical Pennsylvania primary on April 22. That means: five weeks of campaigning uninterrupted by actual events (i.e., elections). One question for Obama is, in this period of too-much time, can he sustain his pitch?
Clinton's selling point is a conventional one: I'm experienced, I know policy, I'm a fighter on pocketbook issues, I can do the heavy lifting. In other words, she wants voters to make a rational decision and hire her on the basis of her resume. Obama wants voters to feel a certain way about him, his campaign, politics, and the potential for change. He inspires. She PowerPoints.
Obama has demonstrated he can bond with voters and motivate them--even if he failed to do so with the majority of voters in Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island. But the issue is, if he does connect with Pennsylvania voters, can he keep that up over a period of five weeks? Clinton's mundane argument for herself may lend itself better to repetitive recitation than Obama's unconventional case. If Obama does indeed succeed in stirring that intense feeling within Pennsylvania voters, will it be susceptible to fading over a long stretch of time. Put simply, what will wear least well: Obama's increasingly familiar rhetoric of hope, change, and new politics, or Clinton's prosaic policy pronouncements and resume-pushing?
There's no need to make a prediction. But Obama, this year's fresh candidate, may have a challenge keeping things not only real but fresh over the long pre-Pennsylvania slog. Clinton, for good or bad, has no such burden.
Comments
Damn,
I'm a friggin Icon here in Cornnut land-must have seen my handle LBH at least a couple hundred times that last thread~ I know, I know, I'm just one troll againt a hundred butt monekeys here in Cornnut land but I have HOPE that you all will be able to have the audacity CHANGE from your same old tiresome liberal ways!
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:29 PM
Damn,
I'm a friggin Icon here in Cornnut land-must have seen my handle LBH at least a couple hundred times that last thread~ I know, I know, I'm just one troll againt a hundred butt monekeys here in Cornnut land but I have HOPE that you all will be able to have the audacity CHANGE from your same old tiresome liberal ways!
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:31 PM
Hey Pande stick to changing those shitty diapers - It's more on your level.
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:32 PM
She's right about one thing~~~
Clinton: McCain Has More Experience Than Obama
Huffington Post | March 4, 2008 09:34 AM
Hillary Clinton continued her heated attacks against frontrunner Obama, claiming that the likely Repubican nominee John McCain has more experience than the Illinois senator. Hillary told reporters yesterday:
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I know, I'm quoting a biased left wing web site, but they can't be wrong 100% of the time, can they?
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:42 PM
So much for running a clean campaign~
Clinton aide compares Obama to Ken Starr
The Politico
Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, taking the campaign a bit meta on a conference call today, attacked Obama for attacking Clinton, and compared him to a notorious Clinton foe.
"When Senator Obama was confronted with questions over whether he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief and steward of the economy, he chose not to address those questions, but to attack Senator Clinton," Wolfson said. "I for one do not believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a Democratic primary election for president."
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:45 PM
Bad news for you HOPERS!
Heading for Fla., Mich. re-votes
Howard Dean says yes
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:46 PM
ONLY GORE CAN STOP A MELTDOWN
March 6, 2008 -- IF AL GORE can pull himself away from saving the planet long enough, he might want to consider rescuing the Demo cratic Party from the clutches of utter self-destruction.
Campaigning against an unpopular war in Iraq, a sputtering economy and a disappearing dollar, Democrats cannot lose in November.
But wait! They're Democrats!
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You lefties are friggin funny~~~~
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:49 PM
Does Rezko Spell Trouble for Obama?
The Rezko Trial: Gavel to Gavel
Bob Secter and Jeff Coen | The Chicago Tribune
The interest in this politically charged case is so strong that trying to get a seat in the 12th floor courtroom for opening statements proved as hard as…
Obama’s Rezko Ties Escape National Radar
Kenneth P. Vogel | Politico
Four lonesome television cameramen lounged on folding chairs, read newspapers and idly chatted on cell phones in the sprawling marble lobby of the federal courthouse here…
Obama’s Iraqi Oil for Food Connection
Andrew Walden | American Thinker
The sudden emergence of Iraqi-born Nadhmi Auchi into the Rezko-Obama story indicates a possible money trail leading back to dead Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
Rezko Confronts 1st Witness Today
Natasha Korecki | The Chicago Tribune
Tony Rezko—once a multimillionaire, now a famous criminal defendant—enters the courtroom, and a deputy U.S. marshal holds up an array of ties: Rezko gets to choose.
Rezko In Debt $50 Million; How Did He Afford Obama Lot?
Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz | ABC News
Rezko’s bleak financial picture raises the question of how the Rezkos were able to buy a vacant lot adjoining the home of Sen. Barack Obama in 2005, at a time Rezko says he was already in deep debt.
Rezko Connections: More Reasons Obama Should Worry
John Batchelor | Human Events
The unsavory tale of how a Chicago political machine works for its friends and supporters continues.
The “Rezko” Game
Glenn Greenwald | Salon
“Rezko” is the Whitewater of the Obama campaign.
Rezko Trial Pits Government Against ‘Hard but Fair’ Defense Lawyer
Jeff Coen and Bob Secter | The Chicago Tribune
As he paces the courtroom Thursday while delivering his opening statement on behalf of Antoin “Tony” Rezko, attorney Joseph J. Duffy’s gentlemanly manner may mask his considerable talent.
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 12:58 PM
Campaign 2008
Sen. Bill Nelson paints Florida ‘train wreck’ scenario
By Manu Raju
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) warned the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Thursday that it is facing the “biggest train wreck you’ve ever seen” if a standoff is not resolved over his state’s pledged delegates to the party’s presidential nominating convention.
Nelson sent a letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean Thursday asking the committee to either accept the Jan. 29 results of the primary election or pay for a redo of the elections, which could cost in the range of $20 million. He sent the letter after Dean did not return his telephone call Wednesday.
“If they go to the Democratic Convention and stiff-arm the Florida delegations, how in the world do you think Floridians are going to support the Democratic nominee on Nov. 4?” Nelson told reporters Thursday. “It’s in everybody’s interest to find a solution to this problem.”
However, earlier in the day, Dean said the party would not pay for any do-over.
“We can’t afford to do that,” Dean stated on CBS’s “Early Show.” “That’s not our problem. We need our money to win the presidential race.”
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I have to admit, watching the train wreck is sooo enjoyable. You Cornnuts can't pull it together when it should be a slam dunk. Just goes to show how disfunctional liberalism is!
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 1:04 PM
At my precinct, I saw Republican after republican ask how they could vote for Obama if they were Republican. When I heard a crusty old military vet say that he was Republican but "his guy" was Obama, it shocked me to my core. I'd spoken to some of these folks, done phone banking gone to neighborhood meetings where white yuppies gushed about Obama's message. As I left the polling place, a bunch of guys were talking about coming back to the caucus to "get 'r done for Obama," I knew that the caucus would get the job done for Obama
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Thats cuz the caucus is made up of a bunch of white guys. We both know that your fellow hispanic brothers voted over whelmingly for Hillary, same for the gals. Those back room dark alley caucus deals don't represent bro~
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 1:09 PM
Posted by: LBH at September 18, 2006 08:00 PM
Pande,
I'm flattered that you are keeping all my comments for last 3 years, but that's kind of creepy- stalking comes to mind. No wonder you took a time out!
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 1:29 PM
Damn,
I'm a friggin Moron here....
Posted by: LBH | March 6, 2008 12:31 PM
Dude, double posting? Press the submit button once. That's it.
I know you've got your panties in a bunch because we're making you look like an ignoranus for making those idiotic predictions in 2006; but you gotta chill. Have a margarita, or something.
Hey Pande stick to changing those shitty diapers - It's more on your level.
Posted by: LBH | March 6, 2008 12:32 PM
My kids have been out of diapers for a while. That's why I'm here cleaning up after you. And you're right, cleaning up after you is on my level. A barrel of laughs as well.
I'm flattered that you are keeping all my comments for last 3 years...
Posted by: LBH | March 6, 2008 1:29 PM
It's called Google. type in the search words "lbh moron liar site:davidcorn.com" and you get all the silly nonsense you need to keep you rolling on floor laughing for days and extra days (as the Jamaicans love to say).
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 6, 2008 1:53 PM
Guys (and Gals),
One of the refreshing things about this site for the last couple of months is that it has been relatively free of scatologies and ad hominem attacks. Most of the postings have been issue-oriented, unlike many of the other blogs.
It would really be nice if it could be kept that way. Lord knows there are enough issues of substance about which to argue without personal recrimination.
Let's call the candidates idiots - not each other.
Posted by: Tomcantu
| March 6, 2008 2:10 PM
Tomcantu --- Unfortunately LBH won't do that and anyway, trollbaiting is so amusing that many cannot resist.
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 6, 2008 2:16 PM
Mr. Corn,
It isn't Obama that has the problem. It's Hillary. Her style of campaigning isn't suited to the upcoming races. She relies on political machines and party bosses to carry her message to the people on the local level. This is what allows Obama to take races that she has leads in. He comes in and uses his experiences as an organizer and lets people on the street level carry the day.
Obama energizes and unites people like no pol since JFK (even Reagan pales in comparison, no pun intended). The people set the agenda, walk the streets, contact their neighbors, good old-fashioned neighbor to neighbor conversation. Obama just brings them together and unites them to a common purpose: making our world a better place. This transcends the red/blue ideological divide.
"With Obama, it's not about his career highlights, it's about him. To buy his case, a voter must believe in him, have faith in him, place hope in him--must have (or feel) a connection with him. And this is where the problem kicks in."
Obama creates the opportunity for folks to speak with one voice to overcome the political gridlock. He empowers people to control his campaign and by extension the national agenda. This is no problem.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 6, 2008 2:31 PM
LBH,
Please do not overdo it on the comments.
Thanks,
David Corn
Posted by: DavidCorn
| March 6, 2008 2:50 PM
If the people actually like the nasty campaigning and the insults, lies, underhanded BS and they vote for any candidate that does - the people deserve four more years of failure.
The politics of hope is dead - unless (As I proudly predicted) Obama is the real deal and stays above it crud enough to change the paradigm of slash and burn, scorched earth take no prisoners politics.
HRC is playing the GOP game, Wolfson just today said BHO asking for tax returns is a - "Ken Starr move"
Get that, BHO is the slime machine not HRC ?
At this point only time will tell but HRC is dead in the water, she has no electoral advantage and her super-peeps are fading fast.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:35 PM
Script of Clinton Radio Ad
This is an election news update with a major news story reported by the AP. While Senator Obama has crisscrossed Ohio giving speeches attacking NAFTA, his top economic advisor was telling the Canadians that was all just political maneuvering. A newly released document from the Canadian government shows that Obama’s senior economic advisor met with the Canadian Consul General and made clear that Obama’s attack on NAFTA were just, quote, “political maneuvering,” not policy. Political maneuvering, not policy. In fact, the document shows that Obama’s advisor also assured the Canadians that these attacks against NAFTA would not continue. Obama would not want to be, quote, “fundamentally changing the agreement.” As Senator Obama was telling one story to Ohio, his campaign was telling a very different story to Canada. How will Ohioans decide whether they can believe Senator Obama’s words? We’ll find that out on election day. Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President.
*****
The very best “inside the beltway” pundits will claim the ad works?
Maybe it does work, if the M$M tells us it does, eh?
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:42 PM
Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and Obama gained 183.
That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the states that voted.
For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia.
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Obama is in trouble? 4 delegates constitutes a rebound how? HRC has the big MO where?
But it the M$M says she is winning I guess she is, eh?
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:47 PM
Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.
That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the states that voted.
For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:47 PM
Clintonites, responding to the new Obama, sounded furious this morning on a conference call.
(because he asked for her tax returns AGAIN)
"I don't believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a primary election," spokesman Howard Wolfson fumed.
"I did not realize their version of new politics is recycling some of the same Republican attacks," said senior Clinton adviser Ann Lewis. "Senator Obama could not convince [Ohio and Texas voters] he is ready to be commander in chief. I don't think any amount of false attacks on Hillary Clinton is going to change that."
Obama spokesman Bill Burton responds:
"It is absurd that after weeks of badgering the media to 'vet' Senator Obama, the Clinton campaign believes that they should be held to an entirely different standard. We don't believe that expecting candidates for the presidency to disclose their tax returns somehow constitutes Ken Starr-tactics, but the kind of transparency and accountability that Americans are looking for and that's been missing in Washington for far too long. And if Senator Clinton doesn't think that the Republicans will ask these very same questions, then she's not as ready to go toe-to-toe with John McCain as she claims."
*****
Obama is not being nasty but he is not taking any of her BS - so it seems.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:53 PM
Clintonites, responding to the new Obama, sounded furious this morning on a conference call.
"I don't believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a primary election," spokesman Howard Wolfson fumed.
"I did not realize their version of new politics is recycling some of the same Republican attacks," said senior Clinton adviser Ann Lewis. "Senator Obama could not convince [Ohio and Texas voters] he is ready to be commander in chief. I don't think any amount of false attacks on Hillary Clinton is going to change that."
UPDATE, NOON:
Obama spokesman Bill Burton responds:
"It is absurd that after weeks of badgering the media to 'vet' Senator Obama, the Clinton campaign believes that they should be held to an entirely different standard. We don't believe that expecting candidates for the presidency to disclose their tax returns somehow constitutes Ken Starr-tactics, but the kind of transparency and accountability that Americans are looking for and that's been missing in Washington for far too long. And if Senator Clinton doesn't think that the Republicans will ask these very same questions, then she's not as ready to go toe-to-toe with John McCain as she claims."
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 3:54 PM
It just dawned on me - if BHO is the candidate the pre-election surprise will be . . . . .
A mixed race baby out of wedlock. The slugs will get some poor gal that had a mixed race baby to lie and claim it was Obama's. They will have some circumstantial support like Barack was in the same city the claims being made - so how do we know (you know?)
This will come right before the election - just short of enough time to prove by DNA that the whole thing is a fabrication.
Just look at the guy that made the gay sex and drugs claim?
Nothing is beneath these guys. Nothing.
If it works - it will just be one of those things that the exit polling will support and the M$M will regret actually "reporting" but the "story" was there and other were "reporting" it - kind of like the NAFTAgate BS.
As if a memo written by some con Canadian about a meeting with someone is what BHO actually said?
I yearn for the old days when one could respect the content and rely on the trustworthiness of the printed press.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 4:55 PM
He comes in and uses his experiences as an organizer and lets people on the street level carry the day.
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Sure if Idaho is what your bragging about- didn't work in CA, TX, NY, FL or Ohio.
What happened to all that "the Clintons and the 90's were the best of years"? Now you want to treat them like you did Lieberman.
I predict right now, so Pande can paste and save my quote for another two years down the road, that if the Clintons win you will be back on the Clinton gravy train once more with nothing but high praise for Queen Hillary.
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 4:59 PM
I think the experience thing is way overblown. Would Senator Obama ever have the temerity to say, "I remember another congressman from Illinois. A young lawyer, he served one term in the House, lost a Senate race to Mr. Douglas, then did pretty well as President."
As far as governance, is Senator Obama willing to move far to his right to accommodate middle America? His voting record so far has been, whomever you believe, highly liberal. That's not a pejorative or a compliment - just a fact of life. He is often out of step with even the Democrats.
When President Johnson said, "Let us reason together", that was really code for, "Do it my way, or else."
Posted by: Tomcantu
| March 6, 2008 5:42 PM
All politicians use campaign rhetoric (read: lie). There is no way to predict with certainty how they will govern once in office. You can try to take them at their word, read what they have committed to ink and hope you can hold them to half of it.
So, once again (and over and over) I doubt anybody here will praise anything except a few things we think are good and we will (as always) condemn the things that are wrong.
The difference between those like-minded here and some others that are less like minded is - none but the troll offer blind fealty to any politician, party or even person. (Bush NEVER lied!)
I guess that is why the troll makes such absurd accusations, to try to justify nearly a decade of blind support for all things Bush, in the end proved to be a complete failure on ever count.
Like the homophobes that are unable to face their latent tendencies - the Bushbots cannot imagine how us "lefties" could support any candidate with objectivity and (when necessary) condemnation. That we actually put out country before the person, party or politician. That we "liberals" are better at managing the economy, the country and even the wars and illegal occupations started or perpetuated by the GOP maladministration’s.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 6:31 PM
Tom,
"His voting record so far has been, whomever you believe, highly liberal. That's not a pejorative or a compliment - just a fact of life"
You need to define what you mean by liberal - not a challenge - just curious. I disagree but on the particulars and a vote by vote discussion would be tedious. So, not so much in the particulars of the Obama voting record more what or how you define - or what liberal means to you when you use the word.
BTW - I am a self labeled conservative, I was GOP for a few decades and although the party left me I don't feel any less conservative. I don't mind being called liberal so NBD on that count either.
I hold some very progressive views/opinions on social issues and I am sure some could take one or more of my opinions and label me as ______ fill in the blank.
I am curious overall what do you think is good or bad about what a liberal is from your point of view. (just your opinion so it can't be wrong)
Thanks
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 6:43 PM
none but the troll offer blind fealty to any politician, party or even person. (Bush NEVER lied!)
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Dude, you are so stuck in the past!
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 7:09 PM
Did Rezko find sinecures for Obama staffers?
Hot Air ^ | March 06, 2008 | by Ed Morrissey
Tony Rezko’s trial has hardly begun, and already Barack Obama has more questions to answer. Rezko faces multiple charges of corruption in federal court, in part regarding his influence in getting jobs for cronies in city and state jobs. Now it looks like a few of those jobs went to Obama staffers, including one currently on the presidential campaign:
Did Barack Obama use indicted campaign fund-raiser Tony Rezko as a conduit to get jobs for people in Gov. Blagojevich’s administration?
The question arises from a list of 39 people Rezko’s lawyers said in a court filing he urged Blagojevich to give state jobs. …
Among those on the list were two people who appear to have Obama links and a third who’s now an Obama presidential campaign staffer.
But did the names come from Obama? His campaign staff’s short answer: Don’t know — but it’s possible.
Hardly a ringing denial. The Obama team must have learned something from the NAFTA Dance — don’t make categorical denials that can blow up in your face later. Instead, they probably hope to disarm this through a mix of downplaying and admissions.
Wait until the testimony begins and the rest of the Rezko machinations come to light. This could get ugly very quickly for Obama.
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 7:19 PM
lib*er*al ---
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or
authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
[emphasis added.]
more from
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/liberal
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 6, 2008 7:26 PM
Why are you guys constantly trying to define yourselves?
Could it be that you're truly confused?
Posted by: LBH
| March 6, 2008 7:31 PM
LBH ---- You should learn the meanings before using the words.
Anyway, I'm not a political liberal.
Just so you know...
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 6, 2008 8:12 PM
LBH ---- You should learn the meanings before using the words.
Anyway, I'm not a political liberal.
Just so you know...
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 6, 2008 8:13 PM
Apologies for the double post.
Posted by: David B. Benson
| March 6, 2008 8:27 PM
So you no longer support Bush? Or is that steely support still a current event?
Can you admit he is a lying cheating stealing politician like every other politician? That your support enabled the worst most abject failure to ever shine the seat in the oval office, that we "libruls" have been right all along?
Do you admit that even saying "Bush never lied" is ridiculous no matter how or why those words are spoken?
Or are you living in the past?
You will understand it in time or you are not reality based. Simple as that.
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 9:33 PM
"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001
Source: President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003).
To justify the war, Bush informed Congress on March 19, 2003 that acting against Iraq was consistent with “continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”
Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 9:52 PM
Bush Now Says What He Wouldn’t Say Before War: Iraq Had ‘Nothing’ To Do With 9/11
President Bush was in the midst of explaining how the attacks of 9/11 inspired his “freedom agenda” and the attacks on Iraq until a reporter, Ken Herman of Cox News, interrupted to ask what Iraq had to do with 9/11. “Nothing,” Bush defiantly answered. Watch it. (at the link)
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 9:53 PM
Posting has gotten a little odd for me. I'm getting booted out and once signed back in the most recent post doeesn't show until I refresh.
Is that happening to any of you too?
Posted by: capt
| March 6, 2008 9:55 PM
"What happened to all that "the Clintons and the 90's were the best of years"? Now you want to treat them like you did Lieberman."
Posted by: LBH March 6, 2008 4:59 PM
By almost every economic indicator, BigDawg's part of the 90s rawked. Compared to today's economy, the middle and lower classes fared much better. But that isn't really a fair comparison. Ever notice how all of the economic news during the Bush Administration from job creation, to private debt levels, to home foreclosures and drops in sales always has the phrase "worst in decades" or "worst since the depression" attached to it?
And Lieberman? I was the guy's biggest internet fundraiser, bar NONE.
"I predict right now, so Pande can paste and save my quote for another two years down the road, that if the Clintons win you will be back on the Clinton gravy train once more with nothing but high praise for Queen Hillary."
Posted by: LBH March 6, 2008 4:59 PM
I'll raise $$$ for Clinton if she wins the nomination. I'll campaign for her... the full meal deal. The fact that McCain is still behind Hillary in SUSA polls (which have been the most accurate this cycle) shows just how tired Americans are of Bush. John McBush has a tough row to hoe... even against Hillary. Sad. I feel so bad for the GOP.
Yes, Capt. I keep getting template refresh errors when I post (but not when I just read). If I preview a comment, I get logged out.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 6, 2008 10:53 PM
Google "LBH Hagee site:davidcorn.com" and check out the radical comments about Hagee that LBH posted. Taste the irony of LBH watching his candidate jump into the Jacuzzi with Hagee (eventhough Hagee prefers Huckabee and can barely stand to be in the same room with McBush). Belly laughs are in order as LBH's head pops.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 6, 2008 11:00 PM
"He comes in and uses his experiences as an organizer and lets people on the street level carry the day."
Posted by Me
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"Sure if Idaho is what your bragging about- didn't work in CA, TX, NY, FL or Ohio."
Posted by: LBH March 6, 2008 4:59 PM
First of all, Florida? Obama didn't even campaign there.
Look at all of the polls. Obama starts out 20 and sometimes 30 points behind and wins by 20 or 30 points. This is why he is in the lead in the delegate count. This is why he will net more delegates than Clinton in Texas. He has troops in every state to fight the political machines and paid party hacks that Hillary hires to run her campaign.
Since I'm limited in the number of links and don't want to create a multi-post mess, look at the Realclearpolitics results page.
Click on each of the states and look for the link that says "see all ____ primary Polling Data" under the list of polls for that state. You'll se a consistent pattern. Clinton starts 20 points ahead and Obama cuts the legs out from under her.
In the states you mentioned she eked out a win at less than half the margin she start out at. In heavily Dem-leaning states, she uses endorsements and rides the coattails of Congressmen, state reps and governors that have an established Democratic political machine. In red states, she has to start from scratch. She doesn't have the vaguest clue how to start a movement, build an organization from scratch. Obama excels at this.
This is why Obama started 26 points down in the state of Washington and wound up winning 28 more delegates than HRC. That's why he started off 19 points down in the polls in Maryland and wound up winning by a margin of over 14 delegates. That's why he started 24 points down in the polls in Virginia and wound up winning by 28 points. In NY, Clinton started out with a 47 point lead and wound up winning by 17 points in her home state. By contrast Obama started up by 4 points in his home state and wound up winning by 32 points.
He starts out waaay behind and makes up massive ground. This was true in Ohio and Texas which is why she wound up netting maybe half a dozen delegates out of the two (and that's with the help of the local republican party voters).
All this stuff about going negative being effective is all horseshit. She can go negative all she wants in Wyoming and Mississippi; and it won't net her a single delegate. It'll probably have the opposite effect in Mississippi. She can even go negative in Pennsylvania. Obama will simply make up the difference in North Carolina. She. Can't. Win. Get used to it.
And in the end, the Dems rally behind their candidate with their newly constructed party infrastructure in each state and BAM, McBush is a flaming McBurrito.
But hey, don't mind me. While you guys are getting all frothy at the mouth over Rezko, Democrats are taking Denny Hastert's old seat. Remember him? Your old House Leader? Right. It's like stealing candy from a blind baby. The GOP is sooo Dead Man Walking.
Posted by: Pandemoniac
| March 6, 2008 11:46 PM
McCain = four more years of George Bush
John McBush
Posted by: Neil
| March 7, 2008 1:57 AM
Obama Returned Rezko Money Why Won't Hillary Return Money to IPA Company acused of sexually harrasing women?
Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.
The federal government has accused the Illinois management consulting firm, International Profit Associates, or IPA, of a brazen pattern of sexual harassment including "sexual assaults," "degrading anti-female language" and "obscene suggestions."
In a 2001 lawsuit full of lurid details, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission claims that 103 women employees at IPA were victimized for years. The civil case is ongoing, and IPA vigorously denies the allegations.
"This is by far, hands down, the worst case I've ever experienced," said Diane Smason, one of the EEOC lawyers handling the lawsuit. "Every woman there experienced sex harassment, they were part of a hostile work environment of sex harassment. And this occurred from the top down."
Sen. Clinton's spokesman, Howard Wolfson, told NBC News in a statement that the senator decided to keep the funds because the lawsuit is "ongoing" and because none of the sexual harassment allegations has been proven in court.
"With regard to the pending harassment suit, as a general matter, the campaign assesses findings of fact in deciding whether to return contributions," Wolfson said.
From NBC's Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin
This Country must stand for something. We cannot let anyone take our Democracy from us be it the Clintons or anyone else. They must follow the Rules and not change game in middle. They know this. They cannot be allowed to Cheat the System for their own aggrandisement.
As for her superior foreign experience, Hillary did not think it important enough to read the National Intelligence Report and she voted Yes on a Stupid War/Mistate instead of having the intelligence and Judgment to say No, as other Senators did, and stated at the time, we must not invade Iraq who did not bomb us on 911 but instead finish the job in Afghanistan. This makes her qualifying inelligible for the top job as commander-in-chief. Just because she surronds herself with a bunch of generals does not make her qualified or anyone else. They love to stage phony events for the perception to make us think something that is not, is. Masters of Spin & Hype!
Those of us who care for our Democracy must begin to call CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. and ask them to begin to Vet Hillary Clinton and ask the questions they should be asking and to stop the unfair reporting of Obama. It is an illusion that the press has been soft on her. They as you know are the Masters of Spin.
Posted by: bacaangel
| March 7, 2008 2:37 AM
"McBush is a flaming McBurrito."
*snort*
(with chili con queso)
Posted by: capt
| March 7, 2008 8:44 AM
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