McCain Claims His 100-Years Comment Was Distorted--But Not By the Guy Who Broke It

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John McCain is double-talking.

Campaigning in Texas, McCain was asked about his remark that it would be fine with him if U.S. troops stayed in Iraq for another 100 years. He said:

Of course, that comment of mine was distorted. Life isn't fair. I was talking about American presence after the war.

As the first journalist to report McCain's comment, allow me to note that his comment was not distorted--at least not by me. I wrote:

The United States military could stay in Iraq for "maybe a hundred years" and that "would be fine with me," John McCain told two hundred or so people at a town hall meeting in Derry, New Hampshire, on Thursday evening. Toward the end of this session, which was being held shortly before the Iowa caucuses were to start, McCain was confronted by Dave Tiffany, who calls himself a "full-time antiwar activist." In a heated exchange, Tiffany told McCain that he had looked at McCain's campaign website and had found no indication of how long McCain was willing to keep U.S. troops in Iraq. Arguing that George W. Bush's escalation of troops has led to a decline in U.S. casualties, McCain noted that the United States still maintains troops in South Korea and Japan. He said he had no objection to U.S. soldiers staying in Iraq for decades, "as long as Americans are not being injured, harmed or killed."

McCain did not specifically state this 100 years would be after the war. But he did compare what he had in mind to the decades-long presence of U.S. soldiers in South Korea, Japan and elsewhere. And afterward, when I questioned him about this comment--and politely afforded him the chance to pull back from it--he excitedly declared that U.S. troops could remain in Iraq for "a thousand years" or "a million years," explaining, "it's not American presence; it's American casualties." (I duly reported that.)

McCain's position has its logic. He does not equate victory in Iraq with the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. But logic is not the same as wisdom. While the United States has indeed kept soldiers in countries where it has fought wars (Japan, Germany, Bosnia), one can argue that Iraq is a different case--and that proclaiming that U.S. troops will stay there for one hundred to one million years sends the wrong signal to those in the world who fear or suspect the United States is pursuing imperial ambitions in the Middle East. That McCain does not understand how provocative his comment was--even when taken in context--is quite worrisome. No, make that frightening.

On my latest diavlog for Bloggingheads.tv--with Matthew Continetti of the Weekly Standard (my usual partner Jim Pinkerton is still lost in Huckabeeland)--I recount my encounter with McCain regarding the 100 years remark. Here it is:

    Comments

  1. Doesn't take a rocket scientist or Butt monkey (Neil & DB, didn't want to leave you guys out) to figure out what McCain was talking about. Sounds like you are trying to describe what the definition of what the meaning of "is" is.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:15 PM

  2. "John McCain is double-talking."

    Why is it so hard to just call him a liar?

    He is lying plain and simple.

    Is it some kind of one sided comity that makes you avoid the word liar?

    With all of the racist, religious and gender slurs and smears coming from the right I wonder why you can't just put it in print:

    John McCain is lying about the 100 years quote.

    You reported and broke the story and you know the truth - no reason to beat around the Bush - we know where that gets us.

    Next thing you know McCain will claim he never sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"

    He will claim his little ditty was taken out of context and distorted? Would THAT be more double talk or just a simple lie?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:21 PM

  3. McCain’s tax breaks for donating to his kids’ elite schools.

    [...]

    Between 2001 and 2006, McCain contributed roughly $950,000 to the foundation. That accounted for all of its listed income other than for $100 that came from an anonymous donor. During that same period, the McCain foundation made contributions of roughly $1.6 million. More than $500,000 went to his kids’ private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

    *****

    Just another lying politician gaming the system for every penny.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:44 PM

  4. More than $500,000 went to his kids’ private schools, most of which was donated when his children were attending those institutions. So McCain apparently received major tax deductions for supporting elite schools attended by his children.

    That is such a lame slam~~

    It's his money and if he wants to donate to higher education then so be it. You think Democrats don't do the same thing? Moronic!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:49 PM

  5. With all of the racist, religious and gender slurs and smears coming from the right I wonder why you can't just put it in print:

    Again, biased remark~~

    Yes the right can be accused of doing this but so can Bill & Hillary who started the racists and religous slurs. Or how about Bob Kerry who used Barracks full name when commenting about him to reference his muslim middle name. Or how about Joe Biden who called Barrack an articulate clean cut black man~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:54 PM

  6. Why is it so hard to just call him a liar?

    He is lying plain and simple.

    Is it some kind of one sided comity that makes you avoid the word liar?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    No problem, you're a liar when it comes to your liberal blather!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 12:57 PM

  7. All politicians are liars.

    That includes both sides from any angle.

    It is part of the job description.

    Clinton, Obama, McCain - all of them are liars.

    I don't even have to know what all of their lies are - they are politicians.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 1:08 PM

  8. Sometimes military and government folks have a hard time withdrawing from ideas and places.

    In 1803 the British created a civil-service job calling for a man to stand on the Cliffs of Dover with a spyglass. He was supposed to ring a bell if he saw Napoleon coming.

    The job was abolished in 1945.

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 1:10 PM

  9. McCain Flip Flops Again: 100 Years In Iraq ‘Would Be Fine With Me,’ Even ‘A Million Years’


    During a town hall meeting in Derry, New Hampshire last night, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) told a crowd of roughly two hundred people that it “would be fine with” him if the U.S. military stayed in Iraq for “a hundred years“:

    Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years — (cut off by McCain)

    McCAIN: Make it a hundred.

    Q: Is that … (cut off)

    McCAIN: We’ve been in South Korea … we’ve been in Japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans …

    Q: [tries to say something]

    McCAIN: As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That’s fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queada is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.

    Watch it: (at the link)


    *****

    Hard to distort what is recorded on video.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 1:12 PM

  10. The question was, how long are you willing to have the U.S. occupy Iraq? McCain answered a different question, one that is purely hypothetical: How long will the U.S. maintain a presence after stabilization? His answer as DC reports it ignores the reality that we can't get to stablization as long as we are occupiers. In other words, he didn't answer the question. But his non-answer was more revealing than he intended.

    Why doesn't Mr. straight talk give a straight answer? "I'm willing to stay two years" or "five years" or "I'll draw down troops to XX level when the Iraqis hold their next election." Here's the reason: he can't think of a plausible scenario whereby he would ever bring the troops home. "100 years" is the real answer, even if McCain doesn't know it.


    Posted by: ChicagoGuy61 Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 1:43 PM

  11. You libs are getting your undies in a twist over this silly 100 year comment.

    I guess when you can't debate a real issue like that the surge is working then going for table scraps is all you're left with.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:07 PM

  12. If I were you guys on the Obamamania heaven has opened train, I wiould be more concerned about this tahn 100 years comment:

    Chris Mathews on Hardball~

    Matthews was merciless: "What has he accomplished, sir? You say you support him. Sir, you have to give me his accomplishments. You've supported him for president. You are on national television. Name his legislative accomplishments. Barack Obama. Sir."

    The poor local pol's answer was instructive (and accurate): "Well, I'm not going to be able to name you specific items of legislative accomplishments."

    Matthews pressed on: "Can you name any? Can you name anything he's accomplished as a congressman?"

    The local pol: "No, I'm not going to be able to do that tonight."

    Matthews: "Well, that is a problem, isn't it?"

    Ya Chris thta's a problem, it's called Obama lite!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:11 PM

  13. Silly comment McCain lied about.

    It is about the lie not the content of the comment.

    Trying to change the subject are we?

    Hmmmmm, I guess that speaks for itself.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:13 PM

  14. McCentury Tries to Take Back 100 YEARS Remark


    Which is it, John? Are we supposed to believe what you said at first or what you are saying now? You might not agree with Ron Paul on his war views, but at least he stands behind what he says.

    We all remember John "McCentury" McCain's line about staying in Iraq for 100 more years. We also know that he wasn't joking! Unfortunately, politicians are rarely held accountable for their promises or actions because they know that voters are lazy and have short memories.

    *****

    No reason to let a politician lie. It’s called holding their feet to the fire.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:17 PM

  15. Seems Obama knows less about how the economy works than McCain and that's McCain weak spot!
    ~~~~


    Concerns over Obama’s shift to left

    By Edward Luce in San Antonio, Texas

    Until a few weeks ago Barack Obama’s economic platform was the most centrist of the three Democratic contenders remaining after John Edwards, the flag-bearer of the left, dropped out in late January.

    Since Super Tuesday on February 5, that has changed. Scenting, perhaps, the chance of settling the nomination next week (when Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont go to the polls), Mr Obama has indulged in a bidding war with Hillary Clinton to see who can rail most strongly against globalisation.

    Much of the rhetoric can be discounted as classic primary season politicking that will be diluted when it comes to the general election. But sympathetic economists have expressed concern about proposals Mr Obama has unveiled in the past two weeks since campaigning began in earnest to woo the workers of Ohio.

    Last week Mr Obama came out against “open trucking” with Mexico in which freight lorries would drive across the border instead of unloading on to American trucks. His new stance coincided with the endorsement of the Teamsters union, which is opposed to competition in road freight.

    In addition to attacking the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Mr Obama says has cost the US “millions of jobs”, both candidates have alarmed America’s neighbours by threatening to opt out of Nafta.

    “Threatening to repudiate international agreements would have serious foreign policy consequences which would undermine Mr Obama’s broader foreign policy goals,” says Susan Aaronson, professor at George Washington university and a former adviser to Bill Richardson, who dropped out of the race in January. “Some of this may be normal pandering for the primaries. But it has gone much further than expected.”

    Mr Obama’s proposal to levy lower corporate tax on companies that reverse the offshoring of jobs has caused disquiet. “Patriot employers” was unveiled when Mr Obama had already become the favourite to secure the nomination. Some say it is unworkable.

    “It just isn’t clear why the Obama campaign felt the need to bring this out now,” one Democratic economist says. “It might have political merits in the primaries but there are many more effective and less bureaucratic ways than this to incentivise the creation of new jobs.”

    Mr Obama’s terminology has also raised eyebrows. “What he is effectively saying is that companies that offshore jobs are unpatriotic,” says Gary Hufbauer, senior fellow at the Peterson Institute of International Economics. “This is serious language.”

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:19 PM

  16. No reason to let a politician lie. It’s called holding their feet to the fire.
    ~~~~

    So your going to hold Obamas feet to the fire when it comes to his promise of accepting public financing funds in the general election?

    Don't hold your breath folks!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:22 PM

  17. Republican presidential candidates evaluated

    [...]

    Nothing says NeoCon politics like McCain's staunch support of the war in Iraq and the support of the USA Patriot Act.

    The War was a good idea. McCain thinks we may be in Iraq for 100 years.

    Openly stating there will be other wars, John McCain is simply out of touch with the American people.

    Wait. Did I type 100 years in Iraq? Obviously someone does not care about the lives of American soldiers or Iraqi citizens. Yes. Just pawns on the table.

    I would think a veteran would know better. Do not worry.

    *****

    McCain wants us to believe it is somehow unfair to judge him based on what he says, we should have due consideration for what he really meant to say? That taking his words at face value is a distortion? This is how his administration would handle diplomacy too?

    No small wonder the GOPhers are not excited about this guy.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:24 PM

  18. McCain, the old warrior


    […]

    McCain has supported the increase of troops in Iraq, has said the US may stay for “100 years” in that country, and promises that, as president, he would not withdraw American troops there.

    “I’m not going to surrender and wave the white flag the way that Senator Hillary Clinton wants to do,” he insisted.


    *****

    Seems they are distorting his comments across the pond too.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:27 PM

  19. 100 Years of WAR John MCCAIN Bumper sticker

    A better investment than buying the Iraqi dinar.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:34 PM

  20. McCain targeted in anti-war ad, '1,000 years in Iraq'


    The presidential campaign has turned to the economy.

    Yet there are some who say it will return to the war in Iraq.

    And VoteVets.org, the anti-war organization of Iraq war veterans, is airing a new cable TV ad that takes Sen. John McCain to task for saying that the United States might have troops in Iraq for 100 years -- "1,000 years,'' in this ad. But then, that's the way the political dialog goes.

    *****

    VoteVets.org. OUCH!

    The large perspective is not just this one lie (or double talk, distortion, whatever) it is about McCain and how he says things that are not true.

    When he says something again (as he always does) the pattern is what will kill his campaign.

    The double-talk express has left the station!


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:39 PM

  21. McCain seeks to woo conservative base in Texas appearances


    […]

    Mr. McCain said his comment had been misconstrued by Democrats as meaning U.S. troops would be engaged in a century of combat.

    "Our military presence may remain for years, it may not," he said. "After the war, then we'll decide the issue of presence."

    A student, 24-year-old Kelly Horn, pressed Mr. McCain on the issue, asking whether the U.S. should set a goal for the removal of troops as the Democratic candidates advocate.
    Mr. McCain said his goal is to win in Iraq, then for both countries to determine any long-term troop presence.

    Ms. Horn, a bioengineering student who supports Mrs. Clinton, said afterward that she was not satisfied with Mr. McCain's answer.

    "He has a very polished response," she said, "but what he has to say doesn't speak for me."


    *****

    Oh yeah, from the same piece:

    “"There are stark differences," he said in a rapid-fire delivery that had him stumbling over his words.

    "I'm a proud conservative liberal Republican – ah, conservative Republican," he said as the audience laughed.“

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:45 PM

  22. Nothing says NeoCon politics like McCain's staunch support of the war in Iraq and the support of the USA Patriot Act.
    ~~~

    So I guess you consider Joe Lieberman a NeoCon now also huh?

    How abou these guys and gals? All Neocons?

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

    House Votes to Revise, Extend Patriot Act, Angering Senators

    By Charles Babington
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, December 15, 2005; Page A14

    The House voted 251 to 174 yesterday to renew the USA Patriot Act, setting up a confrontation over the revised anti-terrorism measure with a group of Democratic and Republican senators who say it would not go far enough to protect civil liberties.


    Damn NeoCons all of them!!!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:48 PM

  23. VoteVets.org. OUCH!

    You mean the Swift Boat VoteVets.org? I thought you libs were against these kind of hate groups?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:50 PM

  24. So your going to hold Obamas feet to the fire when it comes to his promise of accepting public financing funds in the general election?


    Still waiting for an honest answer~~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:52 PM

  25. Hold all politcos feet to the fire.

    They need to dance for the public, not private, good...

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 2:55 PM

  26. Talk about political racism~

    Cleaver: Black superdelegates backing Clinton are being "threatened"

    KC Star ^ | 2-29-08 | David Goldstein

    The Star's David Goldstein reached Rep. Emanuel Cleaver Thursday night about his remarks on the Clinton superdelegates. Here's his report:

    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri said Thursday that black Democratic superdelegates who support Sen. Hillary Clinton have been “bludgeoned verbally” to prod them to switch to Sen. Barack Obama.

    Cleaver, who is African-American and a superdelegate, has backed Clinton since last summer and this week re-emphasized that support. He said that he himself has not been pressured, but that black superdelegates from all over the country have been subjected to harassment, threatened with primary opponents and called “Uncle Tom.”

    He said they have been told, “You’re not black if you’re not supporting Barack Obama. … It is ugly.”

    He speculated that he has escaped the pressure because, although Obama won the Missouri primary, he only defeated Clinton narrowly.

    With crucial primaries looming Tuesday, the intensity of the pressure became evident this week when Georgia Rep. John Lewis left the Clinton camp and sided with Obama. Lewis, an elder of the civil rights movement, faced a challenge for his seat from an Atlanta minister upset over his refusal to support Obama..........

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:09 PM

  27. Hold all politcos feet to the fire.

    They need to dance for the public, not private, good...
    ~~~~~~~

    Right on DB, I'm starting to like you man. Someone who has principals, finally!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:11 PM

  28. McCain seeks to woo conservative base in Texas appearances

    [...]

    Republican candidate Sen. John McCain, who is also pushing for votes in Texas, said his remark that American troops could stay in Iraq for 100 years has been distorted, but at a town hall meeting in Houston, he still suggested a lengthy U.S. presence.

    *****

    Sounds like they aren’t believing McCain in Texas.

    When he says his comments are being distorted then says we will be there for years (or could be) he sounds insincere.

    Kind of like claiming the mantle of change by promoting four more years of the failed Bush policies here and abroad.

    After the last two terms the GOPhers seems more like the “usual suspects” than the breath of fresh air Obama and HRC offer.

    I think the GOP have a very hard sell trying to convince the electorate that the solution to the problems created by GOP rule is . . . . Four more years of GOP rule.

    I am surprised the GOP can make double digits. It is clearly no testimony to the political acumen of the American public.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:11 PM

  29. After the last two terms the GOPhers seems more like the “usual suspects” than the breath of fresh air Obama and HRC offer.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    You said that about Reid and Pelosi too. Hence, lower approval ratings than Bush after a year of empty promises and partisan bickering~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:14 PM

  30. Does anyone know where I can purchase a license that will allow me to utter Obama's middle name?

    Posted by: Tina Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:14 PM

  31. I think the GOP have a very hard sell trying to convince the electorate that the solution to the problems created by GOP rule is . . . . Four more years of GOP rule.
    ~~~~~~~

    So how do you explain the 18% of democrats that say they will cross party lines and vote for McCain?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:16 PM

  32. Does anyone know where I can purchase a license that will allow me to utter Obama's middle name?
    ~~~

    Try Dem Sen Bob Kerry ~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:17 PM

  33. What did I tell ya, she is finally taken my advise and holding Obamas feet to the fire like Capt suggested~
    ~~~~~~


    Clinton campaign: Obama must answer for Rezko

    Baltimore Sun ^ | 2/29/08 | Rick Pearson

    FORT WORTH, Texas — Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign says rival Barack Obama has a lot of questions to answer about his relationship with indicted Chicago political insider Antoin “Tony” Rezko, whose federal corruption trial is scheduled to start the day before critical primaries in Texas and Ohio.

    Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s chief spokesman, also told reporters today that if Obama doesn’t sweep the primaries on Tuesday, it will show that Democrats want the contest to continue. The answer belies earlier statements from top Clinton aides that she needs to win delegate-rich Texas and Ohio to stay in the race.

    Rezko, a real estate developer and fundraiser for several politicians, including Obama, Gov. Rod Blagojevich and the late Cook County Board President John Stroger, goes on trial Monday on charges he used his connections to allegedly further a scheme that involved kickbacks in exchange for contracts that were pocketed or paid to others to make contributions to politicians, including Obama.

    Both Obama, Illinois’ first-term senator, and Blagojevich, the state’s two-term governor whose self-styled reform administration has been beset by a multitude of federal investigations, have not been charged with any wrongdoing. Obama’s campaign has donated to charity more than $150,000 in allegedly tainted donations.

    Wolfson, trying to meld the roles of campaign spinmeister and federal prosecutor, said “question after question after question after question has neither been posed or answered in any serious way by Barack Obama” about his relationship with Rezko.

    “Now the (Rezko) trial is beginning and I think it will be more difficult for him to avoid these very serious questions,” Wolfson said.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:31 PM

  34. Iraq Lies in Tatters Beneath a 'Surge' of False Claims


    What the U.S. has been calling the success of a "surge," many Iraqis see as evidence of catastrophe. Where U.S. forces point to peace and calm, local Iraqis find an eerie silence

    And when U.S. forces speak of a reduction in violence, many Iraqis simply do not know what they are talking about.

    Hundreds died in a series of explosions in Baghdad last month. This was despite the strongest ever security measures taken by the U.S. military, riding the "surge" in security forces and their activities.

    The death toll is high, according to the website icasualties.org, which provides reliable numbers of Iraqi civilian and security deaths.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:34 PM

  35. McCain lacks straight talk and conservative positions in debate


    McCain's statement that the U.S. would remain in Iraq for 100 years if necessary was brought up, and McCain reminded everyone that he was the only candidate who had called for Rumsfeld to go. He also said that Iraq is a matter of casualties, not U.S. presence, which didn't make much sense.

    *****

    Not making sense to the good folks in Germany either?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 3:45 PM

  36. Officials: Clinton aides threatened lawsuit over Texas caucuses

    [...]

    "Officials from Sen. Clinton's campaign at several times throughout the call raised the specter of 'challenging the process,' the official said. "The call consisted of representatives from both campaigns and the Democratic Party.''

    The source, who asked not to identified by name because he did not have authorization to speak about the matter, said Clinton 's political director, Guy Cecil, had forcefully raised the possibility of a courtroom battle.

    *****

    Let the lawsuits fly!

    I think it will blow up in the face of the one filing such a thing.

    Seems odd that the process has been in place for many election cycles but all of the sudden it is a legal issue?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 4:16 PM

  37. Captain,

    A short pop quiz:
    Which campaign might challenge the non-seating of the Michigan and Florida delegations?

    Which campaign might challenge the Texas primary system?

    Which campaign is urging superdelegates not to make any commitments yet?

    Which campaign got the DNC (read "Terry McAuliffe") to front-end load the primary process so there wouldn't be, presumptively, any contenders after Super Tuesday?
    _____________________________
    Well, I guess politics ain't beanbag.

    Tom

    Posted by: Tomcantu Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 4:44 PM

  38. Tom,


    A decisive victory for one or the other would be in the best interest of everybody and render all of the concerns moot.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 4:51 PM

  39. If Obama Must Reject Farrakhan, McCain Must Explain Hagee


    Hagee was, if you'll remember, the guy who said that Hurricaine Katrina was God's revenge for a gay pride parade.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 4:53 PM

  40. Hagee was, if you'll remember, the guy who said that Hurricaine Katrina was God's revenge for a gay pride parade.
    ~~~

    That was Pat Robertson, nice try though.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:04 PM

  41. Obama: Clinton trying to 'scare up votes' with new ad


    At a meeting with veterans in South Houston this morning, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama strongly disputed charges from the campaign of Hillary Clinton that he was not ready to make emergency decisions in the White House.

    Obama was responding to a new ad by his Democratic presidential rival that asks voters who they want to pick up the phone at 3 a.m in the White House -- a spot which underscores Clinton's campaign theme that she is the more seasoned candidate.

    With the pivotal March 4 Texas primary just four days away, Obama said "the question is not who you want to pick up the call, the question is what kind of judgment will you exercise when you pick up that phone."

    "In fact we have had a red phone moment when the decision was made to invade Iraq," he said, referring to the crisis line in the White House. "Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer."


    *****

    Ever get the feeling that Rove is giving HRC ideas?

    Scare tactics are so Y2K - it isn’t going to work this time.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:12 PM

  42. Iraq Lies in Tatters Beneath a 'Surge' of False Claims

    You're sourcing AlterNet? LOL

    Stick with the 100 year deal my friend, less embarrassing.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:12 PM

  43. Wrong again
    Will MSNBC devote as much coverage to McCain's embrace of Hagee's support as it did to Obama's rejection of Farrakhan?
    On the September 18, 2006, edition of National Public Radio's Fresh Air, host Terry Gross said to Hagee, "You said after Hurricane Katrina that it was an act of God, and you said 'when you violate God's will long enough, the judgment of God comes to you. Katrina is an act of God for a society that is becoming Sodom and Gomorrah reborn.' " She then asked, "Do you still think that Katrina is punishment from God for a society that's becoming like Sodom and Gomorrah?" Hagee responded:

    HAGEE: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:14 PM

  44. fixed bad link

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:16 PM

  45. HAGEE: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are -- were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.


    ****

    As always - wrong again. It was Robertson that said 9/11 was because of gays.

    Those pesky facts that you can never quite grasp.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:23 PM

  46. Eye's!

    jinx

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:23 PM

  47. Obama's open letter to GLBT America


    Barack Obama has released an in-depth open letter to Americans who are anxious to know that he truly supports gay & lesbian voters and understands our concerns.

    Full letter on the flip -

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:25 PM

  48. "You're sourcing AlterNet?"

    Yep - Dahr Jamail is a very solid source of information about Iraq. He is not imbedded nor is he from the M$M. You can't find a more respected reporter in Iraq.

    He has also been both right and correct since the illegal and unwise invasion started.

    If that matters.

    You don't care to be taken seriously, I take you at your word so I don't.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:29 PM

  49. "When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative."

    ~ Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968)

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 5:42 PM

  50. HAGEE: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are --

    Wow! And I'm supposed to believe that you don't watch his show on a regular basis?

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:18 PM

  51. Hillary: "Ready to Lie From Day 1" About Venezuela


    […]

    In a major speech yesterday at George Washington University, Sen. Clinton drove the wedge [with Sen. Obama] deeper: "If I am entrusted with the presidency, America will have the courage, once again, to meet with our adversaries. But I will not be penciling in the leaders of Iran or North Korea or Venezuela or Cuba on the presidential calendar without preconditions; until we have assessed, through lower-level diplomacy, the motivations and intentions of these dictators."

    So, according to Senator Hillary Clinton, the leader of Venezuela is a dictator.

    It's hard to imagine that Hillary is so uninformed -- and has such incompetent foreign policy advisers -- that she doesn't know that President Hugo Chávez and his government have won multiple elections that were characterized as free and fair by international observers. But if she knows this, then she is lying.

    *****

    Lying politicians - go figure.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:24 PM

  52. As always - wrong again. It was Robertson that said 9/11 was because of gays.

    Those pesky facts that you can never quite grasp.
    ~~~~
    OK you trolls obviously pay more attention to these religous fanantics than I do, but then again you also know about some blood vile and tatoo that Angela Jolie sports so got to give that to ya big guy!

    I personal don't pay attention to Hagee, Robertson or Farrakan ~ what a waste of time!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:26 PM

  53. Yep - Dahr Jamail is a very solid source of information about Iraq. He is not imbedded nor is he from the M$M. You can't find a more respected reporter in Iraq.

    That's funny~~

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:30 PM

  54. Barack Obama has released an in-depth open letter to Americans who are anxious to know that he truly supports gay & lesbian voters and understands our concerns.

    How about Transgenders- don't leave your boys, er girls out!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:33 PM

  55. He has also been both right and correct since the illegal and unwise invasion started.

    ~~~~~~

    Gee he's not a biased reporter, ya think? You just discredited your own source.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:36 PM

  56. Being right is somehow biased?

    What an odd world we live in.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 6:48 PM

  57. "We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in 'reality.' And reality has a well known liberal bias."

    ~ Stephen Colbert, Speech to White House Correspondents' Dinner, April 30, 2006

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:02 PM

  58. Wow! And I'm supposed to believe that you don't watch his show on a regular basis?
    No, I don't. You know there is this newfangled invention they've come out with. It's called Google. I typed in "hagee hurricane katrina gay pride" to see if you were correct and that link popped right up. Maybe you should try that once in a while before posting your "facts". Oh by the way, GLBT stands for Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual,Transgender so no, no one was left out. You didn't even skim the letter did you?

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:09 PM

  59. Fact Check on McCain and Political Progress in Iraq


    John McCain has been running mainly against Barack Obama in recent days, and has been running on the successes he says that the Iraqi government has racked up.

    McCain (and the US corporate media) manages to avoid noticing that Turkey has staged a major incursion into Iraq and still has ground troops there and is refusing US requests to withdraw! Ironically, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the Turkish chief of staff used McCain's own language against the Bush administration, rejecting the idea of any timetable for withdrawal. He said Turkey could be in Iraq for as long as a year! Turkey claims to have killed 230 guerrillas of the Kurdish Workers Party inside Iraq in the past week. I mean, how great can the situation in Iraq be when our NATO ally has invaded the country we militarily occupy in order to kill guerrillas harbored by our Iraqi Kurdish allies, who have been slipping across the border for which we are responsible in order to kill dozens of NATO troops in eastern Anatolia?

    *****

    Now the Pentagon wants more troops.

    It was an escalation branded a “surge” for quick sell to the less insightful to buy time until the miserable failure leaves office. The problem is a short shelf life on lies. The truth always rears its head and sooner or later lies fall onto the piles of other lies - discarded in favor of reality.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:16 PM

  60. I think the troll is serious about not being taken seriously.

    Proves with every faux pas post.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:17 PM

  61. Oh by the way, GLBT stands for Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual,Transgender so no, no one was left out. You didn't even skim the letter did you?
    ~~

    Hey thanks for the clarification. I wouldn't want Obama to leave any of you trolls out.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:26 PM

  62. What an odd world we live in.

    Just you my friend~ stick with the Alterheads- tinfoil hat clubers and think happy hope for change! Yes you can.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:29 PM

  63. McCain’s Political Quagmire


    […]

    Certainly the troop escalation helped to revive McCain’s fortunes in the Republican primary contest, quelling any dissent among his rivals (except for the indefatigable, unelectable Rep. Ron Paul). Yet the escalation appears to have had little political impact outside the GOP, despite all the promotional hype. If McCain is truly depending on the surge to elect him in November, he won’t find the data reassuring.

    In national surveys, many Americans agree that sending more troops has improved conditions in Iraq. But those same surveys show that the temporary improvement has not changed their opinions about the war. A substantial majority believes that invading Iraq was a mistake, that we should bring the troops home within a year and that the Bush administration has handled the war badly, or very badly.


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:31 PM

  64. McCain: "I Obviously Do Not" Agree Completely With Hagee, Still Accepts Support


    […]

    While McCain assures the public that he doesn't agree with all of Hagee's views — which include End Times theology, anti-Catholic teachings, and a pronouncement that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for New Orleans' tolerance of homosexuality — he does not go so far as to either denounce those statements or reject Hagee's support entirely.

    What will Tim Russert say?


    *****

    And the back-peddling begins.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:35 PM

  65. We should be holding his feet to the fire, eh?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:36 PM

  66. McCain Courted Hagee for at Least a Year


    Media Matters for America wonders whether MSNBC will cover controversial televangelist John Hagee's endorsement of John McCain as much as it did Louis Farrakhan's endorsement of Barack Obama? That's a good question. If they do, they might want to look into a number of things: Such as how McCain didn't just get the Hagee endorsement out of the blue. Unlike Farrakhan's unsought endorsement of Obama, McCain courted Hagee for more than a year. And though Hagee's anti-Catholicism is in the news today, his anti-Semitism has been an issue as well.

    *****

    Hard to pretend he didn’t know.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:38 PM

  67. John McCain Embraces Extremism of Televangelist John Hagee


    John McCain has courted the support of televangelist John Hagee, and as the photographs in this video show, has even reached out to hug him. John Hagee is an example of the worst kind of right wing religious fanaticism, even accusing Jews of being to blame for the Nazi Holocaust, and saying that God himself approved of the genocide. John McCain has refused to distance himself from John Hagee. He ought to be ashamed of himself.

    *****

    Includes video footage.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:43 PM

  68. John McCain: Constitution Established a 'Christian Nation'


    Q:A recent poll found that 55 percent of Americans believe the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation. What do you think?

    McCain: I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation. But I say that in the broadest sense. The lady that holds her lamp beside the golden door doesn't say, “I only welcome Christians.” We welcome the poor, the tired, the huddled masses. But when they come here they know that they are in a nation founded on Christian principles.

    *****

    I think McCain has lost it.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:51 PM

  69. We should be holding his feet to the fire, eh?
    ~~~

    I could give a rip who has endorsed him or who has endorsed Obama and Hillary. You're the one who seems to think this is big breaking news. I say it's big boring news, move on already.

    I would hold his feet to the fire when he said he will not raise taxes, Make permanent Bush tax cuts and get rid of ear marks for good. If he goes back on his word like Obama has already on public spending then I say to hell with him! Too bad you can't do the same for your great Hope!

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 7:57 PM

  70. Fortunately 18% of your fellow Dems aren't as gullible to the hype of hope and will vote for McCain.

    Posted by: LBH Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 8:00 PM

  71. If McCain comment was distorted, it was distorted by him. McCain clearly did not state what he meant when he said it. His claim that reporters distorted his comment is baseless and worse it means he does not take responsibility for the clarity of his own assertions. Instead, he blames you for it. I guess McCain now has something else in common with George Bush beside the Iraq War policy and tax cuts for the rich.

    McCain has clarified that the clock on the 100 years starts after we’ve won, so the appropriate follow-up question is
    “How much more US treasure and lives are you prepared to invest in this clusterf*ck of a war in Iraq in order to ‘win’ ans what do we win?”
    and the follow-up
    “Given that our armed services are stretched thin and senior military leaders are concerned about the breaking point, how do you justify allocating troops to the Iraq clusterf*ck when that limits the war we can wage on al Qaeda in Pakistan?”

    Posted by: Neil Author Profile Page | February 29, 2008 11:16 PM

  72. "If McCain's comment was distorted, it was distorted by him."

    That truly sums it up.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 9:14 AM

  73. Hillary: From inevitable to impossible

    Hillary Rodham Clinton's once well-oiled campaign machine has devolved into a dysfunctional, bickering, petty collection of squabbles, disputes and shoutfests as the struggling Presidential candidate heads into what could be her political Waterloo on Tuesday.

    Campaign sources tell Capitol Hill Blue that Clinton campaign strategy sessions turn into angry, finger-pointing blame sessions where top aides walk out.

    Top campaign aides privately admit the situation is "grim" and say the campaign is spending money is doesn't and using a "shotgun approach" to attack Democratic frontrunner Barack Obama by "throwing everything we have at him."

    *****

    HRC and her camp have made some mistakes but she has much to be proud of too. She has created huge support for the first woman candidate for president. If not for the talent and skill of Obama and his camp she would have likely walked away with the primary.

    I always consider the sports teams that make the playoffs - they are worthy and capable contenders that worked hard and deserved a shot but there is only one winner - that really doesn’t make the others losers.

    I’m also sure when this thing is done and over HRC will not have many regrets - she will likely stand by every decision. If she made wrong calls along the way she did so trying to make the right calls. She is only human too.

    Maybe BHO is more ruthless in a subtle way. His diplomacy and charisma just more political posturing. It really makes no difference what he is selling as long as he is selling more of it to more people.

    1,000,000,000 donors is a heck of a statement of support.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 10:08 AM

  74. Bush joins the attack as Republicans target Obama

    As the surviving presidential candidates fan out across Texas and Ohio for what is shaping up as a decisive vote next Tuesday, the Republicans are treating Barack Obama increasingly like the presumptive Democratic nominee – and pummelling him for it on everything from foreign policy to free trade.


    John McCain, who has the Republican nomination all but sewn up, has led the anti-Obama charge, seeking to portray him as naive on the threat from al-Qa'ida and lambasting him for his pledge to meet certain hostile foreign leaders "without preconditions" if it seemed appropriate.

    Even President George Bush has echoed some of these criticisms, describing Senator Obama's idea of meeting leaders like Raul Castro of Cuba or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran as "extremely counterproductive".

    *****

    Will Mr. 19% really help?

    Watch McCain’s numbers go down .

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 11:26 AM

  75. McCain Repeatedly Lobbied FCC on Behalf of Campaign Donors


    In 2000, Bush sharply criticized McCain for his unethical behavior. Now, Bush is blaming newspapers for highlighting McCain's lapses to the public.

    *****

    Relative values.

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 1:01 PM

  76. John McCain is VERY HONORED by televangelist catholic-hater Pastor John Hagee endorsement. McCain has been pursuing the endorsement for over a year.

    Posted by: Neil Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 4:37 PM

  77. "A new ad"

    WSY?

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 5:45 PM

  78. "A new ad"

    LOL!

    Posted by: eyes_open Author Profile Page | March 1, 2008 9:15 PM

  79. Who'll tell Hillary to give up?


    IT is the burning question of the moment: who has the courage to tell Hillary Clinton it's time to quit? Friends of the couple say the chances are it will be her husband, and that he will tell her if she loses Texas or Ohio tomorrow. He has made it clear she cannot soldier on without a double victory.

    However, if she wins narrowly in both states but lags significantly in the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, then who will tell Bill Clinton to tell Hillary the game is up?

    It may be Vernon Jordan, the African-American powerbroker who is so loyal to the Clintons he arranged a job for Monica Lewinsky when she was no longer welcome at the White House.

    The Clintons could fight on if Hillary wins the popular vote in Texas but ends up with fewer delegates under the state's peculiar system, which combines a primary election with caucuses.

    Bill Clinton's former White House chief of staff, Leon Panetta, said: "There comes a point where you can drag this thing on in a way that doesn't really give you the votes you need and leaves a bad taste in the mouth."

    He regards the Clintons as professionals who will know if the race is over. "In the end, the former president and Hillary are going to understand what needs to be done. They get it."

    Senator Clinton has been outshone by a candidate who resembles her husband more than she does. At a rally in Beaumont, Texas, Samantha Bartley, 40, said she had expected to vote for Hillary. "Because we knew him, we thought we knew her. Bill inspired me when I was young. Now my 18-year-old, my 20-year-old and my 21-year-old are voting for the first time. Barack Obama's charisma reminds me of Bill and makes me feel young again."

    THE AUSTRALIAN
    The Sunday Times


    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 2, 2008 10:13 AM

  80. Was the Hillary Clinton 3 AM White House "Red Phone" Ad "Xeroxed" from You Tube and a 1984 Mondale Ad?


    Senator Hillary Clinton's campaign raised the fear ante when it started running an ad over the weekend in Texas that asked who you would like to answer the "red phone" in the White House at 3 AM when there is a crisis?

    […]

    So, we were a bit taken aback when BuzzFlash readers alerted us to a pro-John McCain video that has been reportedly been on YouTube since January (the indicated date of posting is January 6). The video, apparently posted by a YouTube subscriber, asks the same question about John McCain as is asked in the Clinton "red phone" ad. In fact, it posits the same question at the same time: 3 AM. Now that's quite a coincidence.


    *****

    “Coincidence doesn’t just happen“

    ~ Homer J Simpson

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 2, 2008 1:23 PM

  81. Just before dawn is the worst time.

    4am?

    Posted by: David B. Benson Author Profile Page | March 2, 2008 3:23 PM

  82. Tough Caucus Strategy


    Hillary Clinton and her campaign is pushing for precinct captains for Texas' 8,000 Democratic polling places. They need to train folks to lead the caucus sessions that will determine more than 60 delegates after the primary voting is over.

    In training materials being handed out by the Clinton campaign, it is clear that they want to control those caucus sessions.

    The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

    It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

    "The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

    Posted by: capt Author Profile Page | March 2, 2008 7:57 PM

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